Whiteknight's Introductory Diplomacy (Ended)

[Whiteknight]

Alright boys and girls, there seems to be a lot of support from some new people wanting to try out diplomacy so I'm giving them their chance. So, please, let me welcome you to:

Whiteknight's Introductory Diplomacy

Alright, this is the standard version of Diplomacy, nothing too hard to learn on. I am requesting that, for now, only people who have not played diplomacy and want to learn sign up. If enough people do not sign up, then I shall open it to others, but inexeperienced will still be considered first. If you have already played diplo but want to be sure to get on if there is not enough, I will create a waiting list for that. Also, since a few may drop out due to inexperience and frustration (although I hope that is not the case!), I will also create a list of backups that will replace them if needed.

I am also looking for some helpers. We need some guiders to help these people understand the game and give them advice on how to move. I'll be one of these, but more the more the better! Please, if some advanced Diplo players would do so, that would be great.

Alright, for those new people who wish to sign up, I recommend you read this tutorial at http://ry4an.org/diptutor/. After you have read that, I, or any guides, will be happy to help you make sure you understand it.

This game will be taken at a leisurely pace of about 3 days between rounds once it is up and running. I will be very lenient, but please, try not to put it off to the last second if you are not waiting on responses from anyone.

Introductory Players:
1. Kongurous - Austria
2. GrassDragon - Russia
3. HammockSleeper - Italy
4. RPGuy6 - England
5. LordQuimbley - Germany
6. Arcani-Ragner - France
7. MarkPyro - Turkey

Guides:
1. Whiteknight
2. DS-Shadow (One or two players)
3. BlackHawk
4. Modred
5. Orodreth
6. TheGreatBrain
etc.

Backups:
1. Toxic Freak
2.
3.
etc.

I give you the map:
http://sigs.kupatrix.com/IntroDiplo-Fall-1900.gif

Good luck to everyone and happy deceiving!

Note: The game starts on Spring of 1901 and the rounds will proceed as follows:

1. Spring
2. Spring adjustments (if needed)
3. Fall
4. Fall adjustments (if needed)
5. Fall builds

If the game proceeds too slowly, I may merge 4 + 5.

[kongurous]

Dammit... ok, I'm in.

[GrassDragon]

I'm in!

[hammocksleeper]

Hook me up with one of those game piece dealies nooooooooow! Randomly select the countries but I call pink.

[Nostradamus]

Im in. I played the actual diplomacy board game today. Had 45 minutes and managed to play two moves and now i'm an addict.

[Nickodemus]

Well, i want to give it a try.....I read the tutorail and think i have a grasp on it, but i have to learn by example with these type of things, so let me know if this poses a problem and ill bow out, i dont mind. I just have a hard time with it, sorry.

~Q

[Arcani-Ranger]

If there's any space for me count me in! :)

[DS-Shadow]

I'll serve for guide for 1 player, max 2 players. Fill me for guide but not for player because that would be unfair.

[Markpyro]

I want to play, but I have absolutely no idea how.

[kongurous]

I want to play, but I have absolutely no idea how.

Then read the tutorial and look at the other diplo games. Oh, and could someone post a list of short-terms for the provinces or am I gonna have to do it the less-lazy way and actually read the other threads?

[BlackHawk]

I'll be a guide.

[Modred]

I read of a game where each player had a coach who recieved copies of that player's messages and helped the new player make decisions (help being the operative word, not creating the orders themselves). Of course, you must then only have 1 coach per player and coaches must not share information about their player's plans with other coaches or players. However coaches could have meetings to discuss what they are learning about the new players, things that other coaches might should emphasize (such as certain rules or theories about the game), etc.

Even if you don't have a 1-to-1 coach-player ration, I'll still be a guide.

[Whiteknight]

We are full up! Please note that we are still looking for guides and backup players.

Assigned countries:

Kongurous - Austria
GrassDragon - Russia
HammockSleeper - Italy
RPGuy6 - England
LordQuimbley - Germany
Arcani-Ragner - France
MarkPyro - Turkey

The loose deadline for orders will be for Thursday, May 12. This is to assure that everyone is able to grasp the game before we go on and get help with understanding the rules and making orders.

Feel free to make NAPs (Non-Aggression Pacts, which are basically "I won't attack you if you don't attack me) and alliances in the thread or in PMs.

Please contact a guide if help is needed. Thank you.

EDIT: I read of a game where each player had a coach who recieved copies of that player's messages and helped the new player make decisions (help being the operative word, not creating the orders themselves). Of course, you must then only have 1 coach per player and coaches must not share information about their player's plans with other coaches or players. However coaches could have meetings to discuss what they are learning about the new players, things that other coaches might should emphasize (such as certain rules or theories about the game), etc.

Sounds like a good idea, Modred. For all the participants: Please feel free to discuss your orders with a guide and to make sure that they are in the correct format.

[kongurous]

Orders sent

[Nickodemus]

ZEIG HIEL!! ( sue me if i spelled it wrong, im sorry, not german and was getting into character.

sending orders soon

[GrassDragon]

Jeez guys, you have a week. You've barely taken any time to talk with the other players (via PM). I'll probably wait until next Thursday to send in my orders...

[ToxicFreak]

I was wondering, is there any chance that I could be on bench as a sub if I'm needed?

[Arcani-Ranger]

Hey Hey The Premier of France wishes to offer a NAP to the leader of Italy and Britain in hope of securing peace between our 3 great nations.

[Nickodemus]

the esteemed emeror of germany wishes to offer a white dove of peace between our two countries france and geramny. what say thee?

[Nostradamus]

Wo there. Too many peace pffers when the first move hasn't even been made! However I duly accept your offer France.

*Orders sent*

[DS-Shadow]

Is anyone needs help with orders please let me know, i've done a introduction game before and quiting due to not been able to do turns spoils it alot.

[Whiteknight]

I was wondering, is there any chance that I could be on bench as a sub if I'm needed?

Done :)

Jeez guys, you have a week. You've barely taken any time to talk with the other players (via PM). I'll probably wait until next Thursday to send in my orders...

I'm doing this mainly so that I can make sure that most people have at least a basic understanding of the game. It's a good idea if they send them to me or discuss them with a guide a few days before the deadline so that they can fix them if they made a mistake. Already I've seen a few.

Wo there. Too many peace pffers when the first move hasn't even been made! However I duly accept your offer France.

'Tis the way of diplomacy!

Alright, it seems that while I'm away, the PMs play, so I'm going to go answer those that I can before I fall asleep from tiredness. :)

Note: For all future orders, please include your country name and year when you PM orders. Thank you.

Edit: Alright, to clear up some confusion I will post the format for the orders.

The proper way to write a move order is:

(Fleet or A) (Country where your unit is currently) moves to [represented by - or ->], (Country you wish to move to.)

eg. A Ven - Tus

To write a support order for a holding or supporting unit:

(Fleet or A) (Country where your unit is currently) Supports (A or F) (Country you wish to lend support to).

Eg. A Con S A Smy H

To write a support order for a moving unit:

(Fleet or A) (Country where your unit is currently) Supports (A or F) (Where the country you wish to lend support to currently is) -> (country that unit is moving to)

Eg. A Vie - Gal
A Bud S A Vie - Gal

To write to support another player's unit (Holding or Supporting):

(Fleet or A) (Country where your unit is currently) Supports (Player's Main Country name) (A or F) (Where the country you wish to lend support to currently is) -> (country that unit is moving to)

Eg. F Tri S Italy A Ven

To write to support another player's unit moving:

(Fleet or A) (Country where your unit is currently) Supports (Player's Main Country name) (A or F) (Where the country you wish to lend support to currently is) -> (country that unit is moving to)

Eg. A Vie S Russian A War - Gal

To write an order for a convoy:

F (Country your fleet is in) Convoys A (Country your army is in) -> (Country you want to move to).

Eg. F Kie C A Ber -> Hol

I believe that is sufficient. Please not that you need not simplify all the names, you can write them out if you wish. However, please make sure that your orders at least resemble those.

[DS-Shadow]

Another rule:

Convoyies can link, What you have to do is convoy a fleet onto another fleet which takes the convoyed army.

F NTS C A EDI -> F HEL
F HEL C A EDI -> KIE

[Nickodemus]

i am having a hard time telling what i have, someone please help here. no where can i find it

[GrassDragon]

i am having a hard time telling what i have, someone please help here. no where can i find it
On the map your supple centers are denoted by red circles in your country, and in each of these you should have either an empty circle or square. Circles respresent armies and squares represent fleets.

For example, you are Germany (dark gray). You have supply centers in Kiel, Berlin, and Munich. Kiel has a fleet and the other two have armies.

[kongurous]

Are all the orders in? This is taking too long.

[GrassDragon]

He said at the start of the game that he'd give until Thursday to get everyone oriented with playing, communicating, and orders.

Be patient...

[kongurous]

He said at the start of the game that he'd give until Thursday to get everyone oriented with playing, communicating, and orders.

Be patient...

Patience is evil, my Grassy friend who happens to be a Dragon-american.

[Nickodemus]

your just not willing to wait to loose.. :)

[kongurous]

your just not willing to wait to loose.. :)

Keep tellin' yourself that, quimbley. I did a lot of thinkin', so don't think I'm above hitting Germany when I'm done with Eastern Europe(Russia excluded).

[Nickodemus]

you would. you austrian hippie. just hope i don't get to you first. And i heard Russia was going for you first. you just head south and have yourself a turkey drumstick, or shall i forget about our little NAP.

[GrassDragon]

Enough talk of Russia, I will not have my private dealings splayed in front of the entire world. Truths and untruths have been told here today, though Russia will neither acknowledge nor deny any of them. In the future, do not speak of my country, or you may be on the receiving end of my wrath.

[kongurous]

Enough talk of Russia, I will not have my private dealings splayed in front of the entire world. Truths and untruths have been told here today, though Russia will neither acknowledge nor deny any of them. In the future, do not speak of my country, or you may be on the receiving end of my wrath.

I never specified whether or not we were allied. For further reference, Russia is on my hitlist*, as well as Turkey.

*=a lie. Russia and I are allied, don't worry about it, GD.

[Nickodemus]

neither did I. But als, you are not in my dealing as of yet.....

[Modred]

Wow, lot's of things out in the open. Lying is a good habit to have. I've employed in numerous times. Just don't get caught in your lies too early.

[Nickodemus]

Wow, lot's of things out in the open. Lying is a good habit to have. I've employed in numerous times. Just don't get caught in your lies too early.


are they? or are they not? but ill keep my eye on you from now on.....

~Q

[Nickodemus]

hey man, its like thursday and stuff

ZIEG HIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hammocksleeper]

Orders scent.

(and man do they stink!)

[GrassDragon]

It is Thursday, and I'm excited ^_^

[kongurous]

hey man, its like thursday and stuff

ZIEG HIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its Sieg Hiel. Anyway, yea, what GD said.

[Nickodemus]

sorry, my german stinks. :p

[Whiteknight]

Orders I have:

-Kongurous (Austria)
-Arcani-Ragner (France)
-LordQuimbley (Germany)
-GrassDragon (Russia)
-HammockSleeper (Italy)

I still need orders from:

-RPGuy6 (England)
-MarkPyro (Turkey)

You have a day to get them in. Please note that I want people who actually participate. You've had a week and several people to ask questions about your orders. If you won't participate, I'll find someone else ot immediately replace you, at least in the beginning here. This is for people who actually want to learn to play, and I don't want anyone to ruin this game for someone else.

[Whiteknight]

In light of warboards being down, I'm extending the deadline one day. I have one person on call if the orders are not in, but I may still need another.

[Nostradamus]

I thought I sent my orders. O well. Orders Sent.

[TheGreatBrain]

I'll guide.

[Whiteknight]

Well, I finally have all the orders, so the map will be up later tonight. I'll probably set the orders due to wednsday because I leave on thursday until the second. I might find someone to do the map while I'm gone so you guys don't have to wait so long.

[BlackHawk]

Well, I finally have all the orders, so the map will be up later tonight. I'll probably set the orders due to wednsday because I leave on thursday until the second. I might find someone to do the map while I'm gone so you guys don't have to wait so long.

I can do it :).

[Whiteknight]

I can do it :).

Alright, I'll let you take care of it while I'm gone.

I'll guide.

Added.

[Whiteknight]

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Spring 1901

Orders Due: May 18

Description: The Mediterranean is occupied by three different powers, we will have to wait to see how that plays out. Austria and Italy seem likely to clash. Britain expands southwards to France, a possible confrontation? Most countries seem poised to gain a SC. Time will tell how this goes.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

A Marrseiles-Spain
F Brest-Mid Atlantic Ocean
A Paris-Picardy

Kongurous (Austria):

A Bud -> Serb
A Vie -> Tri
F Tri -> Adr

HammockSleeper (Italy):

F Nap - Apu
A Rom S Italy A Ven [When supporting your own unit, you don’t need to include your country’s name]
[A Ven H] [Please write a unit holding in the future, even though it isn’t really necessary]

MarkPyro (Turkey):

A constan -> bulgaria
Fleet Anakara H
A smyrna -> constan

LordQuimbley (Germany):

F Kie C A Ber -> Den
A munich – Ruhr
A Ber - Den

GrassDragon (Russia):

A Warsaw H
F StP -> Gulf of Bothnia
F Sevastopol -> Rumania
F Moscow -> Sevastopol [Army, for next time]

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A Liverpool -> Edinburgh
F Edinburgh -> North Sea
F London -> English Channel


Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count

France: 0/0/0/3
Austria: 0/0/0/3
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/3
Germany: 0/0/0/3
Russia: 0/0/0/4
Britain: 0/0/0/3


Map:
http://sigs.kupatrix.com/IntroDiplo-Spring-1901.gif


Great job on your orders so far, you guys. Remember to feel free to contact any of the guides if you need help. We ARE here for you, so don't hesitate to ask.


Orders are due on Wednsday. After that, BH will take over for the duration of my trip.

[Nostradamus]

Orders Sent.

[Nickodemus]

not sent, awaiting response to the questions.... ahhhhhhhhh the questions

[Markpyro]

Whiteknight: From the 21st to the 25th, I will be in colorado for the World Odyssey of the Mind Competition. I wont get back until next wednesday night, but I will not be able to get my orders in on time. Should I get someone to play for me, or can you extend the date for me?

[BlackHawk]

Orders are due on Wednsday. After that, BH will take over for the duration of my trip.

I assume you are going to send me the .PSD Wednesday night? If so just email it to me at wewtage [AT] gmail [DOT] com.

not sent, awaiting response to the questions.... ahhhhhhhhh the questions

What exactly are your questions? If they're more about strategy then feel free to PM them to me.

[Whiteknight]

Alright, since this question came up a few times I'll address it in the thread.

Each diplomacy works on a turn based system of half years. The first turn is Spring, in which all the players submit their beginning moves. After that come Spring adjustments, in which if there are retreats then that is when the players submit their orders for retreats and such (Note, some GMs may leave out this step and combine it with the next in order to speed up gameplay).

The next step is Fall, in which the players move their units. At the end of Fall is when the Player's units capture whatever country they are in and that country turns to the colour of the commanding player. This could be a SC, a regular country, whatever. Any country your unit is in in Fall automatically converts to your colour.

Now, after Fall comes Fall adjustments and then builds. When you have (take over) more SCs (Supply Centres) than you have units, and if your HSC's (Home Supply Centres, the SCs you started with) are not occupied, you may build units. You may only build units in your home supply centres and only when you have more SCs than units. If you have more units than SCs, then you must pick a unit to disband (delete from game).

After the builds, the round returns to spring and the cycle starts all over again.

So, basically, this next round is when you take over whatever countries you occupy. Usually you will aim to occupy SCs in this round so that you can build to conquer even more next round. Keep in mind that to win the game, you only need to take 18 SCs, at least in this game.

Please feel free to ask me any more questions if needed.

To RPGuy6: I apologize, I did get your orders in first. I missed them when going through and making the list of whose I had because yours were so early. My mistake.

[Nickodemus]

orders are in, long live the Germans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Whiteknight]

More answers:

Whatever country is your colour is yours. If you are red and 5 SCs are in countries that are red, you own 5 SCs. If you have only 3 units after owning these 5 SCs, then you may build 2 more units because you can have as many units as you have SCs. Countries change to your colour in the Fall.

Remember to try to get orders in tomorrow, if possible.

[GrassDragon]

I have my orders, just waiting on a PM. What time are they do again?

[Nickodemus]

two days ago

[GrassDragon]

o_O I know they're due today, I just meant what time of day.

[hammocksleeper]

two hours ago ;)


jk, idk, jgtit (just get them in today)

[Arcani-Ranger]

two days ago
Huh two days ago? wow...ummm then sorry about the wait, I'll have mine in in a second!

[BlackHawk]

@WK

I will also be gone soon, but just from the 20th to the afternoon of the 22nd. So if you want me to tak over for the adjustments, just make the due date the 21st or 22nd and then I'll do the map.

[Whiteknight]

I have 3 sets of orders. If this keeps up, then BH will have to make the map tomorrow.

[GrassDragon]

Argh, where is kong when you need her? Awaiting responses from Austria...

[Whiteknight]

Alright guys, please send your orders to me and BH until tomorrow, and only to BH after tomorrow. He will be the GM while I'm gone. Thank you.

[Nickodemus]

<OCC> Argh, Germany want to fullfill our dreams. must bring world under our tyr... Erm, i mean just rule.

"Hans, get those flags ready!!"

[kongurous]

Ok, sorry I haven't been on. I'm in the process of moving to Illinois for retraining, so I'm temporarily resigning my position until I can get my computer set up and get Comcast to turn my service back on.

[Nickodemus]

<occ> this didn't die did it? that would suck.

[kongurous]

<occ> this didn't die did it? that would suck.

Diplomacy games don't die like RPs, from what I can tell. WK is waiting for orders, I'll wager, and all that stuff. Running a diplomacy game is hard, harder than a RP.

[Nickodemus]

ok, its my first time. <grin> so i don't know these things..... thank you. :)

[BlackHawk]

Ok, sorry I haven't been on. I'm in the process of moving to Illinois for retraining, so I'm temporarily resigning my position until I can get my computer set up and get Comcast to turn my service back on.

So I can replace you?

<occ> this didn't die did it? that would suck.

No it didn't die, it's just taking people some time to get their orders in.

Diplomacy games don't die like RPs, from what I can tell. WK is waiting for orders, I'll wager, and all that stuff. Running a diplomacy game is hard, harder than a RP.

Kong is right, they don't just die, there are times when the gap between turns is long due to people's schedules, so just be patiant. Also WK is away until the 30th, so people have to send their Fall 1901 orders to me.

[kongurous]

So I can replace you?

June 1st through June 5th I may not be here, so then you can replace me until I return. Until then, I'm still in.

[BlackHawk]

[QUOTE=BlackHawk]So I can replace you?QUOTE]

June 1st through June 5th I may not be here, so then you can replace me until I return. Until then, I'm still in.

M'kay, it was just the way you wrote that post. And then WK will be GM once again.

I still need orders from:

- Kongurous (Austria)
- Markpyro (Turkey)
- RPGuy6 (Britian)

[kongurous]

M'kay, it was just the way you wrote that post. And then WK will be GM once again.

I still need orders from:

- Kongurous (Austria)
- Markpyro (Turkey)
- RPGuy6 (Britian)

In 30 seconds or less, those orders will be sent to you.

[BlackHawk]

In 30 seconds or less, those orders will be sent to you.

Thank you.

That makes it:

- Markpyro (Turkey)
- RPGuy6 (Britian)

Please get those in ASAP.

[Nostradamus]

Oops. I sent my orders to WK! Okay Ill send the orders now.

[BlackHawk]

Now waiting on Markpyro. I'll give him until Tuesday night, after that it's an NMR.

[GrassDragon]

Erm... MP's gone. On vacation to Colorado. Won't be back until Wednesday. I guess he didn't mention it in this thread? We'll need a replacement I guess?

[BlackHawk]

Erm... MP's gone. On vacation to Colorado. Won't be back until Wednesday. I guess he didn't mention it in this thread? We'll need a replacement I guess?

Oh, my bad, I didn't see it mentioned, sorry. That's fine then I'll just wait for him to come back and that means that when he get's back WK will be back and can become GM again.

[Nickodemus]

<Pout> i want to see how the orders played out, come on now.... lol, lets go. Its not fair that i get punished for being poor and unable to afford to go on vacation. hehe. well in july i will be.

~Q Delusionary Sith Lord

[Arcani-Ranger]

Hey people, I'm just wondering what the hold up is?

[Nickodemus]

waiting fro people to return i guess

~Q

[BlackHawk]

Markpyro is on vacation until today, when he get's back onto WB (www.warboards.org) and posts his orders we will continue on our marry way.

[hammocksleeper]

Markpyro is on vacation until today, when he get's back onto WB (www.warboards.org) and posts his orders we will continue on our marry way.


Which means everyone go PM him and IM him right now bugging him.

[Markpyro]

Heehee. Im back, Im going to get my orders in right now.

(Stay tuned for my thread about my trip, it was awesome!)

edit: one last thing- WK, could you update the map in the first post, so I dont have to go looking for the new one?

[BlackHawk]

Heehee. Im back, Im going to get my orders in right now.

(Stay tuned for my thread about my trip, it was awesome!)

edit: one last thing- WK, could you update the map in the first post, so I dont have to go looking for the new one?

Thanks, I will now update the map. Oh and you'll have to ask WK when he get's back on the 30th (or was it the 31st?) about the editing thing-a-mah-jigger.


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WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall 1901
Orders Due: Pending
Description: Everybody except for Italy gains at least one build. The most extrordinary play was from Germany who expanded two fold as well as stopping Russia from gaining a build. Russia however played well in the South stealing two SC’s he probably shouldn’t have. France gains a respectable two SC’s while England to the north and Turkey in the south chug along and get one. Italy as mentioned did not get any builds seems to be plotting something -- but this lack of builds early on might hurt him.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):
F Mid Altlantic Ocean-Portugal
A Spain HOLD
A Picardy-Burgundy

Kongurous (Austria):

A Serbia S Russia F Bulgaria
F Adr -> Ionian
A Trieste Hold

HammockSleeper (Italy):
F Apu - Adr
A Rom - Apu
A Ven – Tri (Bounce)

MarkPyro (Turkey):
fleet Anakara -> Black Sea
A bulgaria -> Greece
A constan -> Smyrna

LordQuimbley (Germany):
fleet Kiel to hol
Army ruhr to belgium
Army denmark to sweden (Bounce)

GrassDragon (Russia):

A Warsaw H
F Gulf of Bothnia -> Sweden (Bounce)
F Rumania -> Bulgaria (I’ll let this pass this time because it is a beginner’s game, but next time be sure to specify which coast, i.e. EC or SC)
A Sevastopol -> Rumania

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A Edinburgh Convey-> Norway
F North Sea Convey A Ediburgh -> Norway
F English Channel H

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count

France: 2/0/0/5
Austria: 1/0/0/4
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 1/0/0/4
Germany: 3/0/0/6
Russia: 2/0/0/6
Britain: 1/0/0/4

Map:

http://img1.yoxio.com/img/168444.gif

If any of those playing or guide's or anybody for that matter notice a mistake please tell me and I'll fix it ASAP.

[Nickodemus]

LordQuimbley (Germany):
fleet Kiel to hol
Army ruhr to belgium (Bounce)
Army denmark to sweden

how did i bounce? i dont get it

[BlackHawk]

LordQuimbley (Germany):
fleet Kiel to hol
Army ruhr to belgium (Bounce)
Army denmark to sweden

GrassDragon (Russia):

A Warsaw H
F Gulf of Bothnia -> Sweden (Bounce)
F Rumania -> Bulgaria (I’ll let this pass this time because it is a beginner’s game, but next time be sure to specify which coast, i.e. EC or SC)
A Sevastopol -> Rumania

how did i bounce? i dont get it

Oops I put the bounce in the wrong spot, you actually bounced on the A Denmark to Sweden move. Sorry about that.

EDIT: Fixed. Sorry for that inconvenience.

[Nostradamus]

When are we getting new pieces?

[BlackHawk]

When are we getting new pieces?

Thank you for bringing that up. Now you will notice that at the end of the post (before the map) it has this:

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count

France: 2/0/0/5
Austria: 1/0/0/4
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 1/0/0/4
Germany: 3/0/0/6
Russia: 2/0/0/6
Britain: 1/0/0/4

This section specifies how many builds you will receive (the first number being the number of new units you can build, therefore builds). You can use these builds to build that number of units in one of your home cities.

For example:

Britain has 1 build. Therefore he can build one new unit in any one of his home SC's (Edinburgh, Lpl, or London).

The next phase after Fall is the Fall Builds (if their are retreats then it goes Fall > Fall Ajustments > Fall Builds), which is more commonly known as Winter. All you do in this period is state what type of unit you are building and in which of your home SC's.

I hope I cleared that up for ya.

[Nostradamus]

Should I pm my placements and orders to you or WK?

[BlackHawk]

Should I pm my placements and orders to you or WK?

Send 'em to me for now. If he returns before all orders are in then I'll forward them all to him.

[Nickodemus]

ummmm blackhawk. i sent ya a question......

[GrassDragon]

Sent builds. Could you give us a little guide to writing build orders for the future?

[BlackHawk]

ummmm blackhawk. i sent ya a question......

Sorry, I looked at it, wasn't sure of the answer and then forgot. I just checked again and found the answer. Check your PM box.

Sent builds. Could you give us a little guide to writing build orders for the future?

Received. And sorry about that, all it is is the unit type followed by the country / area / SC / whatever.

Example

Using Russia as an example, he has 2 builds. Therefore say he wanted to build 1 army and 1 fleet -- the army in his hometown SC of Sevastopol, the fleet in St. Petersburg (south coast).

The orders would be as follows:

A Sevastopal
F St. Petersburg (sc)

If you have any more questions please feel free to ask or PM me. No question is too 'noobish' or whatever label you wish to apply, it's an introductory game afterall!

[BlackHawk]

I have builds from:

Arcani-Ranger (France)
RPGuy6p (Britian)
GrassDragon (Russia)
lordquimbly (Germany)

For the rest of you (except Italy) please get those in.

[kongurous]

Orders sent.

[BlackHawk]

Orders sent.

Received, that means we only need orders from:

Markpyro (Turkey)

Please get those in ASAP.

[ToxicFreak]

COME ON how long till some one needs a sub please really hurry up with the going on holidays thing and let me sub!!! because I can wait till summer for that!!

[BlackHawk]

COME ON how long till some one needs a sub please really hurry up with the going on holidays thing and let me sub!!! because I can wait till summer for that!!

Be patient.

I'm turning this all over to WK and sending him your Build's and the map, etc. He can decide about Markpyro.

[Markpyro]

im going im going. :P

I was just doing some last minute.... stuff :D

[Whiteknight]

Alright, orders finally in. I'll make the map sometime today.

EDIT: Hmm, it seems I have to clear up some things with Austria. Kong better be on today.

[Markpyro]

I could do it if you need me to.

[Nickodemus]

So, are we ready for 1902?? In the spring?

[hammocksleeper]

we need the map, quimbly...duh. :D

[Whiteknight]

So, are we ready for 1902?? In the spring?

Kongurous needs to get on first. There is some confusion about her orders.

[Nickodemus]

Ha, I needs no stinkin map to win.

[Whiteknight]

No sign of kongurous... *sigh*

[ToxicFreak]

kongurous isn't here she\he said it in my game so can I sub?

[Whiteknight]

I'll wait one more day, if she isn't here by then then I'll let you replace her. Hopefully the game will begin to actually progress then.

[Whiteknight]

Alright, enough is enough. ToxicFreak, I'm sure you will actually be on time with orders. If you will please have your orders in ASAP, I will get this thing moving again. You are replacing Kongurous.

[ToxicFreak]

I PM you now!

There in!

[Whiteknight]

Let's finally get this underway, shall we? I want people in this game to actually check with some of the guides before they submit orders so we don't have this happening again. I'd like to have this game continue on a semi-consistant basis.

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall Adjustments (Builds) 1901
Orders Due: June 8, 2005
Description: Germany breaks away with 3 builds, while everyone but Italy gains one or two builds. A new leader also takes over for Austria.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

A Paris
F Marseilles

ToxicFreak (Austria):

Army-budapest

HammockSleeper (Italy):

N/A

MarkPyro (Turkey):

A constan

LordQuimbley (Germany):

army > munich
army > kiel
army > berlin

GrassDragon (Russia):

StP SC Build F
Sevastopol Build A

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A Edinburgh

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/0/0/4
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/0/6
Russia: 0/0/0/6
Britain: 0/0/0/4

http://sigs.kupatrix.com/IntroDiplo-Fall-1901-adj.gif

Orders due June 8th. Please consult with a guide before submitting orders, if possible, so that the game can progress smoothly and they can advise you if you made some mistakes.

[Nickodemus]

Hopeing i have made no mistakes, my orders are quite easy in fact. but are in none the less.

[Nostradamus]

Orders Sent

[Nickodemus]

damn, one mistake coming up.

[ToxicFreak]

I'm sorry if I'm holding any one up I just had to check what was going on when I was not here but GrassDragon made that clear for me now just as Lordquimbley did so I'll have my orders ready and sent soon!

[GrassDragon]

Waiting on one PM, then I have my orders.

[ToxicFreak]

Orders in every one eles hurry up (unless I'm the last

[Whiteknight]

I have 5 orders out of the needed 7.

[GrassDragon]

I have 5 orders out of the needed 7.
Let me guess, MP's one of the late ones? :P

[Whiteknight]

Let me guess, MP's one of the late ones? :P

Wow, how did you guess? You must be pyschic! :P

Anyways, he still has tomorrow, along with HammockSleeper. Please don't delay the map, guys!

[hammocksleeper]

We're just doing the builds this round, right?

[GrassDragon]

We just did builds, that's what the map on the last page was. You didn't have any builds anyway.

[hammocksleeper]

We just did builds, that's what the map on the last page was. You didn't have any builds anyway.

that's why I was asking asshole

[Nickodemus]

Love is in the air.........

geesh, be nice people, we're only at war here.

[GrassDragon]

that's why I was asking asshole
That's why I answered.

[hammocksleeper]

That's why I answered.

Yeah but you didn't have to rub it in that I didn't have any fucking builds.

[Nostradamus]

Ladies put down your handbags and step away from the jumble sale!

But seriously. Calm down please. If you can't play this game (and act like) civilised people then I will request for you to be removed from this game.

[OboeGuru]

Hey now, let's settle down shall we?

Since I've just graduated High School and now have the time to go webforuming, don't make my first action back here policing you guys. =D

[Nickodemus]

lol, you guys got the guru's attention..... I AM INNOCENT!!! INNOCENT I TELL YOU!!!

[Whiteknight]

Calm down guys, it's alright. I'm still waiting on MP, though.

[Markpyro]

Heh, I always forget to check this thread. A PM would be nice if I do again

[Whiteknight]

Map will be up tomorrow. I have homework to do and little time to do it.

[Whiteknight]

I have followed my word!

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Spring 1902
Orders Due: June 12
Description: There were some damn good plays this round. England realizes the full potential of convoying as he supports himself into Germany’s Belgium. Will he be able to protect it one more round to gain a foothold in enemy territory? England and France best Germany, the former power. Germany also fails to expand northward due to a dual effort between Russia and Britain. While Austria defends itself from Italy, Russia and Turkey both creep and seem poised to make a devastating blow. Will Austria be able to hold them off and expand once again? Everyone else seems to expand and all seem ready to attack another at the drop of a hat. Several countries seem to honour alliances which work against others. Will they pan out? We will have to see.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

F Marseilles-Gulf of Lyon
A Burgundy-Munich (Bounce)
A Spain-Marseilles
F Portugal-Mid Atlantic Ocean
A Paris-Picardy (Bounce)

ToxicFreak (Austria):

F lonian sea-Tunis
A Serbia-Greece (Bounce) (Dislodged) (A Serbia retreats to Alb [Please tell me if you want it disbanded])
A Trieste-Hold
Budapest AS Trieste (I believe you mean A Budapest S A Trieste, but I will let it slide)

HammockSleeper (Italy):

A Apu – Tri (Bounce)
F Adr C Apu – Tri (Fail)
A Ven S Apu - Tri

MarkPyro (Turkey):

a Greece > Serbia
a constan h
a smyrna h
f black sea > aegean sea (Please note: You have to go through Constan first to get to Aegean)

LordQuimbley (Germany):

A Kiel > Ruhr
A Berlin > Silesia
A den > Sweden (Bounce)
F hol > north sea (Bounce)
A mun > bur (Bounce)
A belgium > Picardy (Bounce) (Dislodged) (Disbanded)

GrassDragon (Russia):

F StP (SC) -> Lvn
A War -> Gal
A Sev H
F GoB -> Swe
A Rum S Turkey A Gre -> Ser
F Bul (EC) H

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A Edin -> Belgium
F North Sea Convoy A Edin -> Belgium
F English Channel S A Edin -> Belgium
A Norway S Russia F Gulf of Bothnia -> Sweden

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/1 (A Serbia can either retreat to Alb or be disbanded)/0/4
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/1 (A Belgium has nowhere to go and is disbanded)/6
Russia: 0/0/0/6
Britain: 0/0/0/4

http://sigs.kupatrix.com/IntroDiplo-Spring-1902-2.gif
Orders due June 13th.

Austria, please notify me if you would rather have A Serbia disbanded rather than retreated to Alb. I automatically retreated it because it saves time and it was the only place it could go.

[Arcani-Ranger]

Orders are in :)

[Nickodemus]

that just made no bloody sense.

[Arcani-Ranger]

What Doesn't make sense? Ask...
(if its about your disband, its because you tried to move into Picardy, but I moved there as well, we bounced, normally you would go back to Hollend, but since Britain has a force there you can't move to that place, and there are no other free areas adjecent to Pic or Hol that you could move it into, so you had to disband.)

[Nickodemus]

grrrrrrr, i got it, dont like it but got it.... so much for my peace treaty with those damn brits. cant trust them bloody bastards. give me a bit on orders then.

[Arcani-Ranger]

Hey Don't worry about that, if you want a show of Backstabbing, look in Youngstown, I'm Russia and I actually belived in Germany...Sigh...now thats a backstab what he done...

[Nickodemus]

lol, some of these rules take a little getting used to, thats all.

how can i have bounced out of the north sea when he was convoying?

[Whiteknight]

lol, some of these rules take a little getting used to, thats all.

how can i have bounced out of the north sea when he was convoying?

His unit that was convoying stays there. You confronted it with 1 unit so you two bounce. Bouncing does not stop a convoy because the convoy does not count as an extra attack unit.

[Nickodemus]

but i intended to attack it.

[Nostradamus]

Have I sent my orders?

[GrassDragon]

but i intended to attack it.
Attacking and moving are synonymous.

Well, I like how this turned out.

[Markpyro]

When is the next due date for orders?

(whoohoo, Im taking some initiative :P )

[Whiteknight]

Ah, I suppose I contradicted myself there, didn't I? Well, I'll go with the later date.

Orders are due on June 13.

[Nickodemus]

did i get mine in? i cant remember......

[Nostradamus]

Have I sent my orders?
Well?

[Nickodemus]

did i get mine in? i cant remember......

mee to?

[Markpyro]

Getting them in, just a sec.

[Whiteknight]

Bah, you guys are pathetic. There is a sent message button in your user cp. Anyways, currently I have orders from:

MarkPyro
HammockSleeper
RPGuy6
LordQuimbley
Arcani-Ragner

Which leaves:

GrassDragon
ToxicFreak

Get them in you guys.

[GrassDragon]

I'm doing them now.

[Whiteknight]

That leaves ToxicFreak.

[Nickodemus]

man, i hope mine arnt skewered....Arrrgh

[ToxicFreak]

Sorry sending them now...

Edit:

There in.

[Whiteknight]

Alright, map up:

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall 1902
Retreats/Disbands/Builds Due: June 16
Description: What an incredible round! Austria is confronted on all sides by three separate nations and, as a result, loses 2 of it’s home SCs. Russia pulls safely into the lead with the attack on Austria and the expansion westward. Turkey exchanges SCs with Austria, although Turkey may prove to have the upper hand by taking a HSC. France stands still, mostly, and Italy finally gets a build! Britain looks like the quiet underdog by gaining a bigger foothold in Germany and expanding steadily outward.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

F Mid Altantic -> Western Med
F Golf of Lyon -> Tyrrhenian Sea
A Burgundy -> Ruhr (Bounce)
A Marsiellies -> Pie
A Paris -> Brest

ToxicFreak (Austria):

Tunis hold
Trieste hold (Dislodged)
Budapest AS Trieste (cut) (dislodged) (I’m guessing you mean support, cut anyways)
Alb-Greece

HammockSleeper (Italy):

A Apu - Tri
F Adr C Apu - Tri
A Ven S Apu - Tri

MarkPyro (Turkey):

a serbia h
a constan -> anakara
f black sea > constan
a smyrna h

LordQuimbley (Germany):

A ruhr > burgundy (Bounce)
A munich > burgundy (Bounce)
A denmark hold
A Silesia hold
F hol > north sea (Bounce) (Dislodged)

GrassDragon (Russia):

F Bul H
A Rum -> Bud
A Gal S Rum -> Bud
A Sev H
F Lvn -> Pru
F Swe H

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A Norway H
A Belgium S F North Sea -> Holland
F North Sea -> Holland
F English Channel S A Belgium

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count

France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/2 (A Trieste must retreat to Tyrolia, Vienna, or disband ; A budapest must retreat to Vienna or disband)]/1/3
Italy: 1/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/1 (F Holland must retreat to Hel, Kiel, or disband)/2/4
Russia: 2/0/0/8
Britain: 2/0/0/6


http://sigs.kupatrix.com/IntroDiplo-Fall-1902.gif



Retreats/Disbands/Builds due June 16.
Retreats, disbands, and builds are going to happen at the same time from now on.

[Nickodemus]

how do i have 2 attacking bur and it only has one attacking me and i bounce?
and then i have a f head to the north sea and it bounces but britain takes me?

I am absolutely at a loss.

[Arcani-Ranger]

Ouch...I feel sorry for Austria...This game is looking nice!!!
I'll have movment orders in once this phase has been sorted out :)

[Nickodemus]

If i had just known all you have to do is have fleets parked in the ocean and you can be beaten, or be pushed out, then i would have done that long ago.

[GrassDragon]

You can't trade spots with another army. If each of you attacks the other's country, as if you would swap places, you both bounce. Britain took your country because it had a power of two (it was supported) to your one. The reason you didn't do the same thing to France at Burgundy is because you wrote your orders incorrectly. You don't want to move two armies into the same country, you'll bounce yourself. Instead, do a move order with one and support with the other.

[Nickodemus]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[GrassDragon]

I just noticed something. Can you create support "chains" like Britain did in English Channel/Belgium/Holland? How do those work?

[Nostradamus]

Orders sent

[Whiteknight]

I just noticed something. Can you create support &quot;chains&quot; like Britain did in English Channel/Belgium/Holland? How do those work?

You can support however many units you like. However, if you have unit B supporting unit A, and unit C supporting Unit B, if you were to attack unit B it would be cut and leave A without support, regardless of how many units are supporting B.

Lord Quimbley, you did not support a unit. Anyways, this is why I ask you to actually consult a guide before giving me your orders. I will not look at them unless you specify.

[Nickodemus]

As far as i can tell, i should only need to disband one. so the armie in ruhr that way i can be beaten totally up by the damnable french as for the orders thing. ooooops, Ill be finding someone. fleet to north sea seems my only logical choice, as i should be able to move their from Holland.

[GrassDragon]

fleet to north sea seems my only logical choice, as i should be able to move their from Holland.
You wish you could retreat to the North Sea :P

WK, we can send in our build orders now, correct?

[ToxicFreak]

Ok here are my retreats:

Budapest-Rummania
Tireste-Vienna

ok

Dam backstabing russains!!! same gose for those turks and itailains I get you yet so whatch it!!!

[Nickodemus]

why cant I?

[hammocksleeper]

WK, we can send in our build orders now, correct?

yes, gogogo he combined retreats and builds you fucking moron. i hope you get wiped out next turn

[Nickodemus]

Die ham-mock sleeper die.... LOL

what is with the name calling jeeesh

[Whiteknight]

You wish you could retreat to the North Sea :P

WK, we can send in our build orders now, correct?

Yeah, I needed both builds and retreats at the same time. It's faster that way.

Anyways, so far I have complete orders from:

RPGuy6
HammockSleeper
(And, of course, Arcani-Ragner and MarkPyro need to do nothing.)

For all of the rest of you:

I need builds and retreats! All at once!

[Markpyro]

I sent you my orders, WK! How many builds do I have?

[Whiteknight]

Oh, sorry MarkPyro. I forgot you had no builds. Also, I don't need your orders quite yet. Anyways, I still need these things from the rest of you. Stop being lazy and get them in!

[GrassDragon]

Budapest-Rummania
I was under the impression that you cannot retreat to the country that attacked you, hence my joke at Q about North Sea. Am I wrong here?

Might as well do builds here too.

A Warsaw
A Moscow

[Nickodemus]

what how who? I did that already.

[Whiteknight]

Alright. I'm going to make this as simple as possible. I needed both builds + retreats. If you need to retreat, please look below the moves. There will be this thing:

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count

France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/2 (A Trieste must retreat to Tyrolia, Vienna, or disband ; A budapest must retreat to Vienna or disband)]/1/3
Italy: 1/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/1 (F Holland must retreat to Hel, Kiel, or disband)/2/4
Russia: 2/0/0/8
Britain: 2/0/0/6

The first number beside your country tells you how many builds you can make. The second number tells you how many retreats you have and also tells you the only places that your retreats can go. For example, in the instance of Germany, Holland can only retreat to Hel or Kiel. If he does not want to retreat there, then the unit may be disbanded, which means it is cleared off the "board.

The third number tells you how many units you must disband/get rid of (in fall), or have been disbanded (in spring). For example, Germany has to disband two units.

The last number tells you how many SCs you currently posess. Now to got through everyone.

France (Arcani-Ragner): France has no units to build, no units to disband, and no retreats, so he does not need to send orders.

Austria (ToxicFreak): Austria must make two retreats. You may only retreat to where it tells you on the retreat area. You may not retreat to where you are attacked. Austria also need to disband one unit. Therefore, I need ToxicFreak to redo his orders and include a disband.

Italy (HammockSleeper): HammockSleeper has only one thing to do and that is builds. He has sent me his builds, so his orders are in.

Turkey (MarkPyro): MarkPyro has nothing to do, so he does not need to send orders.

Germany (LordQuimbley): Germany has one retreat which may only retreat to Hel or Kiel, not North Sea. You cannot retreat to where you were attacked from or if there was a bounced country. Germany also needs to disband two units. I have none of these orders from Germany.

Russia (GrassDragon): Russia has 2 builds. He has those orders in, so I am done with GD for now.

Britain (RPGuy6): Britain only needs builds. RPGuy6 has sent these builds.

WHO I NEED:

ToxicFreak: Please redo your orders and include a disband.
LordQuimbley: Please redo your retreats and include 2 disbands.

Now, can we please get through this?

[Whiteknight]

Alright, I've realised that I think it may be simpler to just split it up and do it step by step. I also realize that I should have combined builds and orders instead. I forgot that retreats can affect what land you have.

I will be doing this step by step from now on. Please give me your retreats so I can get the retreats map up. After the retreats map is up, you can re-submit your builds or you can keep them.

[ToxicFreak]

Retreats

A Trieste-Tyrolia
A Budapest-Veinna

[Whiteknight]

Thank you ToxicFreak. Now all I need is LordQuimbley.

[Markpyro]

Whiteknight- sorry I didnt give further notice, but, I will be at camp from today until June 24th. From what it looks like, you have a bit of a hold up at the moment, and that will delay you a few days.

If you want to keep moving with the game by the time the delay has passed, I give you permission to grant someone my controls until I get back. If this has to be done, I do not want any attacks made unless extremely necessary.

[Whiteknight]

Alright, sorry about the delay. This sort of... zapped me of my determination for a bit. And I had other things going on. Oh well. The map is up, I'll be needing builds/disbands, please.

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall 1902 Retreats
Builds/Disbands Due: June 21
Description: We get retreats done... finally.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

N/A

ToxicFreak (Austria):

A Trieste-Tyrolia
A Budapest-Veinna

HammockSleeper (Italy):

N/A

MarkPyro (Turkey):

N/A

LordQuimbley (Germany):

Kiel

GrassDragon (Russia):

N/A

RPGuy6 (Britain):

N/A

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count

France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/0/1/3
Italy: 1/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/2/4
Russia: 2/0/0/8
Britain: 2/0/0/6

http://sigs.kupatrix.com/IntroDiplo-Fall-1902-R.gif

Alright guys, I need your builds and disbands for the 21. Please just resend them, it will be easiest.

[GrassDragon]

Builds:

A Warsaw
A Moscow

[Whiteknight]

Note: I'm sorry LordQuimbley, I miscounted. You are correct, you only need to disband one unit. If I don't respond to something like this in the thread, please PM me about it next time.

Alright, I still need ToxicFreak's disband. To make it simple, I'll be using everyone else's previous build and disband orders unless you resend me a different set of orders.

Just let us continue so we can get through this temporary ugliness. :)

[ToxicFreak]

Note: I'm sorry LordQuimbley, I miscounted. You are correct, you only need to disband one unit. If I don't respond to something like this in the thread, please PM me about it next time.

Alright, I still need ToxicFreak's disband. To make it simple, I'll be using everyone else's previous build and disband orders unless you resend me a different set of orders.

Just let us continue so we can get through this temporary ugliness. :)

What the hell are you on about I don't need to dispand I have 4 units and 4 places that means I'm ok unless theres something wrong about your map!!!!!

[Nostradamus]

What the hell are you on about I don't need to dispand I have 4 units and 4 places that means I'm ok unless theres something wrong about your map!!!!!

You only have 3 sc's - Vienna, Yunis and Greece. You have four pieces and therefore you must get rid of one.

[Whiteknight]

What the hell are you on about I don't need to dispand I have 4 units and 4 places that means I'm ok unless theres something wrong about your map!!!!!

Count the SCs, ToxicFreak: Vie, Greece, and Tun. Now please, give me your disband or I'll be forced to pick for you.

[Nickodemus]

we are waiting on others disbands correct? I lost track of this one i did

[Whiteknight]

I'm just waiting on ToxicFreak's disband. All other orders are in. If it's not in soon, I'll pick. He's lucky right now that it's finals. ToxicFreak, hurry up and make your order.

[ToxicFreak]

I'm siriously sorry I can't believe that I helled up the game cause of that any way no one wants to hear my exuces so all I'll say is dispand in Tyrolia...
ok and once again really sorry.

Edit:

And BTW I want to ask the french for a NAP.

[Whiteknight]

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall 1902 Builds
Orders Due: June 27
Description: Well, things are finally going. Lets get the show on the road shall we? Please never let something like this happen again. Ever.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

N/A

ToxicFreak (Austria):

Disband Tyrolia

HammockSleeper (Italy):

Rom build F

MarkPyro (Turkey):

N/A

LordQuimbley (Germany):

Disband Silesia

GrassDragon (Russia):

A Warsaw
A Moscow

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A London
F Edinburgh

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/0/0/3
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/0/4
Russia: 0/0/0/8
Britain: 0/0/0/6



http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Spring-1902-b2.gif

[Markpyro]

Allrighty, Im back. I'll get my orders in soon.

[Nostradamus]

I asked for an army in London not a fleet. On the map I have a fleet in London.

[ToxicFreak]

Dam I'm going in this round or so but I'm not going to go down with out a fight so bring it on russia.

Orders sent!

[Whiteknight]

I asked for an army in London not a fleet. On the map I have a fleet in London.

Truly sorry, RPGuy. This has just been getting to me. Fixed.

http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Spring-1902-b2.gif

[GrassDragon]

Orders in. How about everyone else?

[Arcani-Ranger]

Yes, orders are in :)

[hammocksleeper]

Italy has finalized and submitted its orders

[Whiteknight]

Last day for orders you guys.

[Nickodemus]

I assume i did my orders as my PM thing is deleted, i will assume correctly till otherwise scolded.

[Whiteknight]

We are waiting on MarkPyro and a redo by HammockSleeper.

[Markpyro]

I believe I already sent you my orders, because none of my pieces have moved. if you want, I'll resend them, but I did already send them in.

[Whiteknight]

I believe I already sent you my orders, because none of my pieces have moved. if you want, I'll resend them, but I did already send them in.

Those were sent a long time ago and then you posted later in the thread that you were sending orders so I had reason to believe that those sent earlier may be void.

EDIT: All orders are in, map will be up soon.

[Whiteknight]

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Spring 1903
Orders Due: June 30th
Description: Russia comes off as the master player in this turn by managing to defend his own SCs and expand outward incredibly. The question is now whether he can hold his newfound gains. France contracts somewhat inwardly while occupying a SC. It looks like the end for Austria who has been forced out of all but one of it’s own SCs. Russia has also made a surprise attack into Germany. Everyone else pretty much stands still or moves around slightly.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

F Western Med -> Tunis
F Tyrrhenian Sea FS Western Med -> Tunis (Please write Support (A/F) next time instead of (A/F) Support.)
A Pie -> Marseilles
A Brest -> Paris
A Burgunsy -> Munich (Bounce)

ToxicFreak (Austria):

F Tunis-Ionian Sea
A Vienna-Budapest (Bounce) (Dislodged)
A Greece-Bulgaria (Bounce)

HammockSleeper (Italy):

A Tri S Russia A Gal - Vie
A Ven – Tyrolia (Bounce)
F Rom - Nap
F Adr S A Tri

MarkPyro (Turkey)

a serbi H
f constan > Aegean
a smyrna > constan
a anakara h:

LordQuimbley (Germany):

Kiel > Baltic sea
Ruhr > Hol (Bounce)
Mun > Tyrolia (Bounce)
Den Hold

GrassDragon (Russia):

F Bul (EC) -> Rum (Bounce)
A Bud -> Rum (Bounce)
A Gal -> Vie
A War -> Sil
F Pru -> Ber
F Swe H
A Mos -> War
A Sev H

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A Norway Holds
A Belgium Supports F Holland
A London Holds
F English Channel Supports A Belgium
F Holland Supports A Belgium (Cut)
F Edinburgh -> North Sea


Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 0/0/0/5
Austria: 0/1 (Army Vie may retreat to Boh or be disbanded [retreated to Boh to save time, contact me if you wish it disbanded])/0/3
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/0/4
Russia: 0/0/0/8
Britain: 0/0/0/6

http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Spring-1903.gif

Austria, if you wish to have your army disbanded instead of retreated, please tell me and I can change it. Otherwise it was the only possible place to retreat so it was retreated to save time.

Orders are due June 30th because I am leaving on the 31st for the weekend.

[Nickodemus]

never mind


~orders in. I might over think myself but o well

[Arcani-Ranger]

Orders in. :)

[Nostradamus]

Orders In

[GrassDragon]

>.< So sorry! I've been gone the last few days, I'll get my orders in now (may have to send a PM, not sure :\).

EDIT: Orders in.

[Whiteknight]

So far I have:

RPGuy
Arcani
LordQuimbley.

The way this is going the map won't be up until tuesday when I get back.

[hammocksleeper]

ordahs in

[ToxicFreak]

Sorry for the delay.

Orders in

*grumbling* french how needs them I don't even know how to speak french.

[Nickodemus]

awaits patiently for his time to come.....

[Whiteknight]

That would be all of them. The map will be up today unless there are some mistakes in the orders (which I sincerely hope there isn't, as I request each person check their orders with a guide).

[GrassDragon]

Can't wait for the map WK!

[Whiteknight]

And the map is here!

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall 1903
Builds/Disbands Due: July 8th
Description: Russia is devastating all of eastern Europe with very planned and careful attacks. Austria is reduced to ruins with only a single SC left. Turkey sits quite still and doesn’t move a unit. Germany, Italy, and Austria are pretty much foiled in their attempts at expansion and blocked. France also manages to sneak an attack into Italy and gain 2 SCs. Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

F Tunis HOLD
F Tyrrhenian Sea -> Rome
A Burgundy HOLD
A Marseilles AS Burgundy [You again got it switched. The proper use is Supports A/F or S F/A, but I’ll let it slide. Also, if you are supporting a holding unit, please say S A H(old)]
A Par -> Pic

ToxicFreak (Austria):

F Ionian Sea-Nap (Bounce)
A Greece-Serbia (Bounce)
A Bohemia—Veinna (Bounce)

HammockSleeper (Italy):

F Adr - Alb
A Tri – Ser (Bounce)
A Ven – Tyr (Bounce)
F Nap – Ion (Bounce)

MarkPyro (Turkey)

a serbia h
a anakara h
a constan h
f aegean h

LordQuimbley (Germany):

A mun > Tyr (Bounce)
F baltic > Gulf od Bothnia
A Ruhr > hol (Bounce)
A den > Kiel (Bounce)

GrassDragon (Russia):

A Sev -> Rum
F Bul (EC) S A Sev -> Rum
A War -> Gal
A Bud S A War -> Gal
A Vie S Italy A Ven -> Tyr (Cut)
F Swe -> Den (Bounce)
F Ber H
A Sil S A Ber H

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A London C -> Denmark [The C isn’t needed, only with the fleet] (Bounce)
A Norway H
A Belgium -> Rhur (Bounce)
F North Sea C A London -> Denmark
F Holland -> Kiel (Bounce)
F English Channel -> Irish Sea

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 2/0/0/7
Austria: 0/0/2/1
Italy: 0/0/1/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/1/3
Russia: 2/0/0/10
Britain: 0/0/0/6

http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Fall-1903.gif

Builds/Disbands are due July 8th. Please get them in.

[hammocksleeper]

Man playing with new people (including myself, of course) is so fucking annoying. Everybody bounces.

[Whiteknight]

Man playing with new people (including myself, of course) is so fucking annoying. Everybody bounces.

It's that way in most maps, Hammock. Just the way it is because you can't support your units all the time.

[Nickodemus]

well, I am screwed eh? nice playing....

[Whiteknight]

I still need builds/disbands from all 5 of you.

[Arcani-Ranger]

Build orders in.

[GrassDragon]

Builds hidden.

F StP (SC)
A Sev

[Modred]

Russia, beware of developing ELS! Early Leader Syndrome. You can figure out what it means.

[GrassDragon]

ELS? Egocentric Loser Syndrome?

EDIT: Read hidden text. Don't give anybody any ideas Modred >.>

[Nickodemus]

<occ> I have newws for you all, please do not kill me off, I am leaving on vacation starting july 8th, returning july 14th. sorry for the inconvienience. please feel free to find a replacement for me to work my stuff. I shall return.

[hammocksleeper]

I'll be out of town starting tonight until the sixteenth or seventeenth of the month...I'll have limited access to the internet so I'll pop in and give orders, don't worry.

[ToxicFreak]

Despands:

Bohemia


How do you hide??!!??!!??!!

[GrassDragon]

Just set the color to #e4e4e4.

And I will be gone on the 18th until the 24th.

[Whiteknight]

Well, we finally have ToxicFreaks' orders. Finally. And Quimbley couldn't be bothered to give one damn disband before he left. Great. Well, I'm disbanding for him, and if he doesn't like it, tough. Going by the rules on this, his disband is Ruhr.

I'll make the map later today. And get your damn orders in on time. I've done this to try to introduce some people to diplomacy, it won't work if I don't get participation from /all/ of you.

[Whiteknight]

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Fall Adjustments 1903
Orders Due: As Soon As Possible (July 25th latest)
Description: People build and disband. We have people gone from the 8 - 14, 8 - 17, 18 – 24, so I’m making the orders for the 25th. If you can get them in before then, PLEASE do so, so that we can get this map moving.


Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

F Brest
A Paris

ToxicFreak (Austria):

Disband Bohemia

HammockSleeper (Italy):

disband F albania

MarkPyro (Turkey)

N/A

LordQuimbley (Germany):

Disband A Ruhr

GrassDragon (Russia):

F StP (SC)
A Sev

RPGuy6 (Britain):

N/A

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 0/0/0/7
Austria: 0/0/0/1
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/0/3
Russia: 0/0/0/10
Britain: 0/0/0/6


http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Spring-1903-b2.gif

[Arcani-Ranger]

I'll have orders in soon...err I'm just wondering, how can Austria have 2 units on the map while he only has 1 supply centre?

[Nostradamus]

Shouldn't Austria be dead? It has all its home power bases destroyed.

[Whiteknight]

....

Toxic, this is the second time. Anyways, Ionion disbanded as per rules. Thanks for catching the mistake guys, and ToxicFreak, please read the amount you need done. Actually follow through with that.

BTW, RPGuy, Austria still has Greece, which isn't a HSC. He is still alive but cannot build anything unless he takes his own HSC again.

http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Spring-1903-b2.gif

[Sekira]

Well, we finally have ToxicFreaks' orders. Finally. And Quimbley couldn't be bothered to give one damn disband before he left. Great. Well, I'm disbanding for him, and if he doesn't like it, tough. Going by the rules on this, his disband is Ruhr.

I'll make the map later today. And get your damn orders in on time. I've done this to try to introduce some people to diplomacy, it won't work if I don't get participation from /all/ of you.

Hmmm, dont mean to be tough on the rules, but shouldn't the german fleet in the gulf of bothnia be disbanded, being the farthest from a home build centre...

Sekira

[Nickodemus]

um no, and i posted my sorry...i really thought i did send them in and he picked what i was going to do before sueing france for peace mind you.

[Sekira]

Which versions of the rules are we using? Just checked my copy and its

Farthest from home build,
Fleets before Armies
The alphabetically.

Sekira
<<Really enjoying watching this game>>

[Ecthelion]

Wow, this must be really hard to organize. A lotta fun to watch though. Never played beforing, so learning lots. Right now unofficially voting for GrassDragon (Russia - Silver).

[Whiteknight]

Hmmm, dont mean to be tough on the rules, but shouldn't the german fleet in the gulf of bothnia be disbanded, being the farthest from a home build centre...

Sekira

Ugh, where were you when the map first came out? Yes, you are correct, it is a mistake on my part because I did not see GoB. I was just slightly frustrated with everyone and picked it fast. Sorry about that LordA, but you seem fine with it at least. Anyways, it stays like that because I already have the orders.

Ecthelion, it's harder with people new to the game because delays usually are abound. Anyways, it's all good though, because they learn and will continue to play (hopefully).

I have orders from LordQ and Arcani so far, everyone else please get them in ASAP.

[GrassDragon]

Wow, this must be really hard to organize. A lotta fun to watch though. Never played beforing, so learning lots. Right now unofficially voting for GrassDragon (Russia - Silver).
Thanks :)

WK I can get my orders in as soon as I get some responses from PMs.

[Whiteknight]

I have 3 sets of orders: Arcani-Ragner, LordQuimbley, and RPGuy 6. Please, everyone else, get all the other orders in by Friday.

[Nickodemus]

o, i win....

[ToxicFreak]

sorry I'm not going to be here for long time so if I servie in need a sub sorry.

[Nickodemus]

why dont you just give me all his teritories as we had a formal treaty anyways... its not like its gonna help me anyways....LOL

[Nickodemus]

I never heard a response for my peace with France. jeesh.

I vote for dragon too. Its not like i have a chance in hell.

[hammocksleeper]

orders in. y'all get your orders in, y'hear?

[Whiteknight]

I have everyone's orders but ToxicFreak and MarkPyro.

ToxicFreak will be holding for the rest of eternity. All I need now is MarkPyro.

[Nickodemus]

come on marky... lets go already. I seem to be in a hurry to be beaten... :D

[Markpyro]

Sorry, I forgot to check this thread, the game hasnt moved much in a while. Just a sec.

[hammocksleeper]

Sorry, I forgot to check this thread, the game hasnt moved much in a while. Just a sec.

Just a piece of friendly advice, if you subscribe to the thread (under thread tools) in your User CP it will show up if there are any new posts in the thread. Not to badger you, but you are consistently one of the last people to turn in his orders.

[Whiteknight]

Now that we have all the orders in, finally, I'll be getting the map up soon.

[Whiteknight]

WK’s Introductory Diplomacy: Spring 1904
Adjustments Due: June 29th
Description: There are some unnecessary supports to units who don’t need it by Britain and Russia. Russia and Germany switch SCs for the time being, although Russia makes a key stab into a home SC. France manages to poke it’s head into German/French territory, and actually looks like he might keep it. Germany manages to keep itself alive for at least one more year by his smart move into Sweden, although his final days may be numbered. The giant Russia finally makes a move into the Turkish territory that must have been beckoning to him all game. Will the Turks be able to make a stand? Everyone else adjusts themselves for a greater advantage to gain SCs in the coming fall.

Moves:

Arcani-Ragner (France):

F Brest -> Mid Atlantic Ocean
A Picardy -> Belgium
A Burgundy S A Picardy -> Belgium
A Paris -> Picardy
F Rom HOLD
F Tunis -> Ionian Sea (Bounce)
A Marseillies -> Pie

ToxicFreak (Austria):

N/A

HammockSleeper (Italy):

A Ven – Rom (Bounce)
F Nap - Tyr Sea
A Tri – Tyrolia (Bounce)

MarkPyro (Turkey)

All Armies H
F Aegean -> Ionian (Bounce)

LordQuimbley (Germany):

A Mun > Tyrolia (Bounce)
A den > sweden
F gulf S A den > sweden

GrassDragon (Russia):

F StP (SC) H
F Swe -> Den (Bounce) (Dislodged)
F Ber -> Kie
A Sil -> Mun (Bounce)
A Vie H
A Gal -> Bud (Bounce)
A Bud -> Ser (Bounce)
F Bul H
A Rum S Bul H [S A Bud H]
A Sev -> Arm

RPGuy6 (Britain):

A London H
A Belgium -> Rhur
A Norway H
F Irish Sea -> English Channel
F North Sea S A Norway
F Holland S A Belgium -> Rhur (FAIL: F cannot support inland)

Builds/Retreats/Disbands/SC Count
France: 0/0/0/7
Austria: 0/0/0/1
Italy: 0/0/0/3
Turkey: 0/0/0/4
Germany: 0/0/0/3
Russia: 0/1 (F Sweden may retreat to Baltic Sea, Ska, or Finland, or be disbanded)/0/10
Britain: 0/0/0/6


http://sigs.kupatrix.org/IntroDiplo-Spring-1904.gif

Andrey_Iceman will be replacing Arcani-Ragner. Everyone else, please be diligent with orders. Let's get this thing rolling smoother.