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Mindslaver
05-04-2005, 2:22 PM
The Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith thread.

NEWS FLASH:

After the horrific Jar Jar Binks incident, George Lucas realized that he had to cater to an audience that was more than three years old.

http://www.mindspring.com/%7Eernestm/jarjar/jarjar2.jpg
Jar Jar Binks: The Failure of George Lucas

Realizing this, Lucas wanted to go for the massive throngs of teenagers around the world with a little love story.

http://www.starwarsfan.org/prequels/editorials/sotg%208%20pics/anakin-padme-reunited.jpg
"come on ppl this is Starwars not a friggin soap opera." - ChaoRayne

With two failures under his belt, Lucas had to shape up. And so came Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith. Undoubtedly filled with lightsaber action (how else can all the Jedi in the universe be eradicated?), it will be the perfect ending for Lucas' Star Wars career. Plus there's General Grievous.

http://www.geocities.jp/fman_skywalker/imggriev.jpg

Not your average 98% droid, 2% alien.

hammocksleeper
05-04-2005, 3:55 PM
Wtfuck? General Grievous? How come I hadn't heard about him before? And he has four arms with lightsabers? And how can he use lightsabers if he's a machine? Don't you have to be a living being to have to force etc?

Btw no one better complain about the picture being broken; copy and paste this into the address bar: http://www.geocities.jp/fman_skywalker/imggriev.jpg

siuloongbao
05-04-2005, 6:59 PM
lightsabers don't require force to be used. Those are supposed to be trophies that he got from different jedi when he killed them...or something like that.

kongurous
05-04-2005, 7:01 PM
lightsabers don't require force to be used. Those are supposed to be trophies that he got from different jedi when he killed them...or something like that.

Yea, that. Every time he kills a Jedi or Dark Jedi, he takes their lightsaber as a trophy and a weapon.

siuloongbao
05-04-2005, 7:55 PM
From back when i was obsessed...

Jedi in training are supposed to use the force in their construction of their weapon, the lightsaber. Obviously they use the force when they fight and actually use their lightsabers. Its supposed to be a handle with a power cell, a focusing crystal, some kind of emitter, and lots of wiring, as well as a casing, theres no channeling of the force. So technically, anyone can grab a lightsaber, thumb it on, and hack like crazy.

According to my friend who is far more obsessed then i ever was, we have the capability to make our own lightsabers, if we had a portable power cell that would be sufficient to power it. But we don't and it'd require immense amounts of energy, so boo hoo we don't have lightsabers.

Mr.Bad
05-04-2005, 8:04 PM
actualy no we cant keep the laser from extending to far it would be a laser not a sword

siuloongbao
05-04-2005, 8:15 PM
What are you talking about?

we cant keep the laser from extending to far

Who said anything about extending it?

and technically in the star wars universe you can. Different stones in the hilt of the light saber are controlled by different buttons. One button is normal length, and the second is connected to the second stone, and that extends it.

Mindslaver
05-04-2005, 9:24 PM
Wtfuck? General Grievous? How come I hadn't heard about him before? And he has four arms with lightsabers? And how can he use lightsabers if he's a machine? Don't you have to be a living being to have to force etc?
It's kind of ironic, because it shows the ultimate triumph of machine over man. He's more machine than man, just like Darth Vader.

Holy crap, there's a load of images from the movie here (http://parman.blogspot.com/).

hammocksleeper
05-04-2005, 11:11 PM
No I could have sworn that you have to have the force in order to turn on the lightsaber. In one of the first three movies (4 5 6) they said that or something, or maybe someone picked up a lightsaber and tried to use it but couldn't, or something.

kongurous
05-04-2005, 11:17 PM
No I could have sworn that you have to have the force in order to turn on the lightsaber. In one of the first three movies (4 5 6) they said that or something, or maybe someone picked up a lightsaber and tried to use it but couldn't, or something.

No, Obi Wan said the lightsabre was the weapon of a Jedi, and the Emperor said that as well. However, they never said you needed the force to use one.

siuloongbao
05-04-2005, 11:29 PM
Lightsaber has a button that is pressed. There was a description of the construction of the lightsaber in one of the Jedi Academy books, or w/e they're called.

As for picking up lightsabers and trying to use them in the original movies, i don't think that ever happened. But Luke did use the force to telekinetically retrieve his lightsaber in episode 5. Thats all i can think of.

Mindslaver
05-05-2005, 3:37 PM
This picture cracks me up....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/punkboi/Parno2/emperor_gloat.jpg

hammocksleeper
05-05-2005, 3:40 PM
This picture cracks me up....

I know he looks like a fucking plastic toy.

Mindslaver
05-05-2005, 8:13 PM
I know he looks like a fucking plastic toy.
He looks like Jar-Jar Binks on Kaminoan crack.

Arcani-Ranger
05-06-2005, 1:13 PM
hehe, And for some people General Gerivous is like something 5% Alien, I don't know were I got that from but it was some were...from the lucasarts game-Republic Commando...somewere.

Nuts
05-06-2005, 1:37 PM
hehe, And for some people General Gerivous is like something 5% Alien, I don't know were I got that from but it was some were...for lucasarts game-Republic Commando somewere.

What must one do to be considered an alien in the Star Wars universe? ;)

And the reviews are rolling in and it looks very good for ROTS.

http://www.variety.com/VE1117927015.html

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2005050601410002365154&dt=20050506014100&w=RTR&coview=

Arcani-Ranger
05-06-2005, 2:31 PM
well the other 95% is Droid, so I guess we have to decide whether it is enough of a percentage to be classed as Alien...or if he's more like a droid... hmmm choices choices!

Mindslaver
05-06-2005, 2:34 PM
well the other 95% is Droid, so I guess we have to decide whether it is enough of a percentage to be classed as Alien...or if he's more like a droid... hmmm choices choices!
I wonder if 'he' is a 'he'...

Nuts
05-06-2005, 2:40 PM
Actually, I was referring to the fact that the Stars Wars universe consists of hundreds if not thousands of interplentary entities, all of which are "alien" to one another. ;)

hammocksleeper
05-06-2005, 4:13 PM
Actually, I was referring to the fact that the Stars Wars universe consists of hundreds if not thousands of interplentary entities, all of which are "alien" to one another. ;)

Yeah but you know when we say alien in this specific instance we mean a lifeform, as opposed to a droid, smart-alec. ;)

DragonPaladin
05-08-2005, 1:22 PM
What if...the humans were considered "aliens" in Star Wars? That would be such a kicker.

kongurous
05-08-2005, 2:49 PM
What if...the humans were considered "aliens" in Star Wars? That would be such a kicker.

Humans have no planetary home in Star Wars, and on most planets, are considered aliens. Twi'leks and Hutts are much more widespread than humans.

DragonPaladin
05-08-2005, 2:59 PM
Well...I think it says humans are the most common species in the "universe".

kongurous
05-08-2005, 3:07 PM
Well...I think it says humans are the most common species in the "universe".

Not on all planets, DP. On say, Nar Shaddaa, humans are minority, but on Coruscant, they easily outnumber non-humans.

DragonPaladin
05-08-2005, 3:20 PM
Well, Nar Shadda is basically the Hutt homeworld, so I'd be inclined to think that the Hutts are more populous there. I mean, in overall generally, humans are extremely common in Star Wars compared to all the other races.

The_Maker
05-10-2005, 6:41 PM
*Ahem* People, this is supposed to be about

Star Wars Revenge of the Sith


NOT

Star Wars Knights of the Old republic 2 The Sith Lords

Get back on topic :P

Spartan-II
05-10-2005, 6:50 PM
But... But...

kongurous
05-10-2005, 6:51 PM
*Ahem* People, this is supposed to be about

Star Wars Revenge of the Sith


NOT

Star Wars Knights of the Old republic 2 The Sith Lords

Get back on topic :P

Nar Shaddaa exists in the Star Wars universe, you moron. I'm using it as an example, I'm not discussing KoTOR2. I know my Star Wars. Ask me any question, I can answer it.

Mindslaver
05-10-2005, 9:01 PM
Let's take your statement out of context, kongurous:
Ask me any question, I can answer it.
Okay - what's my middle name? :P

No, here's a real question. On what planet was General Grievous droidified? I've never understood that.

The_Maker
05-10-2005, 11:34 PM
Even better yet, who was Darth Vaders father!? :P

kongurous
05-11-2005, 2:24 AM
Let's take your statement out of context, kongurous:

Okay - what's my middle name? :P

No, here's a real question. On what planet was General Grievous droidified? I've never understood that.

It isn't known where General Grievous was turned into what he exists as in Episode 3, hell, his race isn't even known. He boards Yoda's boat in the sense that no-one except General Grievous and George Lucas know exactly what he is and what happened.

Even better yet, who was Darth Vaders father!? :P

The Force. Or, in a physical sense, Darth Vader had no father. Or, if you want to get farther up the wierd tree, Palpatine was Darth Vader's father because Vader didn't "exist" until Anakin fell to the Dark Side.

singo
05-11-2005, 7:03 AM
Lightsaber has a button that is pressed. There was a description of the construction of the lightsaber in one of the Jedi Academy books, or w/e they're called.



How Lightsabers (http://www.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber.htm) work.

Sorry :P. It also has some alternative uses for them.

And darth Vaders father would be the same father as Anakin had (whoever the hell that was :P) suprisingly enough....

ChaoRayne
05-11-2005, 7:30 AM
I thought Nar Shadda was a giant city, how can it be populated by the Hutts? The Hutts live in legal gambling deserts and wastelands, and Nar Shada is under Republican rule so slaves would not be allowed.

Arcani-Ranger
05-11-2005, 10:42 AM
Nar Shadda is a giant city, I think, wasn't it in either Jedi Academy, were u have to fight on a train cause someone working for this 'Cult of Ragnos' planted some powerfull bombs in it?

Toucan
05-11-2005, 11:37 AM
I have often thought (with all the cloning technolagy and other technolagy that exists in starwars) that maby Anakin might be the son of Senator Palpatine, he planned the whole thing I reckon, from years before.
Just my own opinion though.

ToxicFreak
05-11-2005, 12:01 PM
oo thats a cool idea...Palpatine being the father of Anakin....Hmmm I've never thought of that one! I wonder how here agrees with Toucan27?

Mindslaver
05-11-2005, 6:35 PM
Nar Shadda is a giant city, I think, wasn't it in either Jedi Academy, were u have to fight on a train cause someone working for this 'Cult of Ragnos' planted some powerfull bombs in it?
Yes, that's Jedi Academy all right.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/narshaddaa/img/eu_bg.jpg
Nar Shaddaa - The NYC of a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

kongurous
05-11-2005, 6:41 PM
I thought Nar Shadda was a giant city, how can it be populated by the Hutts? The Hutts live in legal gambling deserts and wastelands, and Nar Shada is under Republican rule so slaves would not be allowed.

Slaves are allowed in the Republic, the Hutts are from a swamp planet called Nal Hutta, and were a prominate race before the Republic came to power, so they had bigass cities before the Republic existed. And Nar Shaddaa is a moon of Nal Hutta, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were a swamp as well. Swamps aren't wastelands.

oo thats a cool idea...Palpatine being the father of Anakin....Hmmm I've never thought of that one! I wonder how here agrees with Toucan27?

I don't. Schmi Skywalker confirmed Anakin had no father, because why would a mother lie about her own child? Palpatine continues to live for so long because of his clones, however, Anakin never looked like Palpatine. If Anakin had his genes modified to look differently, then he wouldn't be a clone, he'd be someone who was born from in vitro fertilization.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 7:04 PM
because why would a mother lie about her own child?
Perhaps she didnt know, its a fictional story with alot of technolagy, always more than 1 way to skin a cat.
If Anakin had his genes modified to look differently
I have never considerd the possibility that a baby might alter its genes before its birth...........Interisting........Curious how though, Maby Palpatine changed the genes


Edit: Thinking about it, those cloners had the ability to speed up growth, hypereducate, I wonder what other technological abilitys they may have.

P.S I never did say Ani was a clone, I just sited the technology to sugest its possibility

kongurous
05-11-2005, 7:54 PM
Perhaps she didnt know, its a fictional story with alot of technolagy, always more than 1 way to skin a cat.

Then why would she say the child was hers? And why would Palpatine even give it to a random slave on Tattooine?

I have never considerd the possibility that a baby might alter its genes before its birth...........Interisting........Curious how though, Maby Palpatine changed the genes

I say again, a clone with genes that make it look like something else, is not a clone.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 8:01 PM
I was late in that edit, I never did say Ani was a clone, I just sited the tech,
Then why would she say the child was hers?
Because she gave birth to it, I am sugesting maby Palpatine created the embryo and some how had it implaned in Schmi.
And why would Palpatine even give it to a random slave on Tattooine?

Not a random slave but he left him on Tatooine because he is the Sith lord and every thing(except his death) happend as he had forseen, and Ani needed to be on Tatooine to put his plans into motion.

kongurous
05-11-2005, 8:05 PM
I was late in that edit, I never did say Ani was a clone, I just sited the tech,

But you do agree with it.

Because she gave birth to it, I am sugesting maby Palpatine created the embryo and some how had it implaned in Schmi.

Even in Star Wars, I'm pretty sure Schmi would have noticed being implanted. The Republic would not stoop so low anyway, and remember, when Anakin was born, Palpatine was the senator of Naboo. He did not have the authority to do such a thing, anyway and cloning was frowned upon in the Republic.

Not a random slave but he left him on Tatooine because he is the Sith lord and every thing(except his death) happend as he had forseen, and Ani needed to be on Tatooine to put his plans into motion.

Then, why Schmi? The well-being of a slave is not guaranteed anywhere, if Anakin was truly a clone, Palpatine would have given the child to the Jedi or have had Anakin raised by a friend.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 8:10 PM
Had Anikan been raised by Jedi he never would have turned to the dark side, Schmi was a slave, the rights to render her unconscious and implant her may have been purchased from her owner.
And the republic would not sink so low, The "Sith" would. To Palpatine if he had forseen Anikans safety on Tatooine, then to him Anikans saftey would have been assured.

kongurous
05-11-2005, 8:13 PM
Schmi was a slave, the rights to render her unconscious and implant her may have been purchased from her owner.
And the republic would not sink so low, The "Sith" would. To Palpatine if he had forseen Anikans safety on Tatooine, then to him Anikans saftey would have been assured.

You forget: Schmi would have noticed any scars or known if she had been implanted. Even if this is Star Wars, such things would not go unnoticed. And why would Palpatine sell her back? So what, he forsaw this stuff. Don't you think Jabba would have been suspicious if Palpatine bought Schmi for a day or two, and then gave her back? If a senator feels a slave isn't worth the credits, a Hutt would feel the same, if not worse.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 8:21 PM
You forget: Schmi would have noticed any scars or known if she had been implanted.
Had 3 children, know a cosiderable amount about artificial insemination, what scars??
And why would Palpatine sell her back? So what, he forsaw this stuff. Don't you think Jabba would have been suspicious if Palpatine bought Schmi for a day or two, and then gave her back?
What??, no hookers on Tatooine?, a night with any slave could be arranged for a price!

kongurous
05-11-2005, 8:24 PM
Had 3 children, know a cosiderable amount about artificial insemination, what scars??

Schmi wouldn't have said it were her child if she had artificial insemination, and if she were knocked out or otherwise put to sleep, she would have known. And Anakin was Schmi's only child, why do you think she had 3 children?

What??, no hookers on Tatooine?, a night with any slave could be arranged for a price!

Hookers are worth more than slaves, and what are hookers even doing on a backwater desert?

Toucan
05-11-2005, 8:37 PM
Schmi doesnt have 3 children..... I do. LOL
Schmi may have been taken in her sleep, she was a slave, pay the price, do what ever you want to her, (I dont agree with that mentality, but that is slavery)
I worked in Wiluna (1400km north east of Perth WA, middles of the simpson desert), every saturday down the Pub, Hookers everywhere.
And as to expense, Palpatine was a senator, he wouldnt have been lacking for cash, with his objective in mind, money was no object.

kongurous
05-11-2005, 8:41 PM
Schmi doesnt have 3 children..... I do. LOL
Schmi may have been taken in her sleep, she was a slave, pay the price, do what ever you want to her, (I dont agree with that mentality, but that is slavery)


If she were taken in her sleep, she would have woken up at some point and would have known if she were injected with anything, either by a scar or an irritated genital area.

And as to expense, Palpatine was a senator, he wouldnt have been lacking for cash, with his objective in mind, money was no object.

The Republic's coffers are not endless, and Jabba would have been suspicious if a slave of his was bought and returned within the same month.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 8:48 PM
If she were taken in her sleep, she would have woken up at some point and would have known if she were injected with anything, either by a scar or an irritated genital area.
If such a thing were to be attempted, you would drug the intended victim, If you woke up in the morning with what felt like a mozzie bite and maby a yeast infection, would you imediately think you had been artificialy inseminated?

kongurous
05-11-2005, 8:49 PM
If such a thing were to be attempted, you would drug the intended victim, If you woke up in the morning with what felt like a mozzie bite and maby a yeast infection, would you imediately think you had been artificialy inseminated?

I'd think something was fooked up and start getting some EPTs. I'd also start askin around, even slaves get some downtime.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 8:52 PM
Maby the deal was made with that little flying fellah (cant think of his name right now), would explain his liking and attachment for Ani, if he was present at his birth.(he truly didnt want to give him up did he, not untill he was threatend with the hutts)

I'd think something was fooked up and start getting some EPTs. I'd also start askin around, even slaves get some downtime.
What if your owner is in on it?

kongurous
05-11-2005, 8:56 PM
Ok, that doesn't explain why Qui-Gon didn't use the Force to tell whether or not Anakin really had no father. And Anakin had a higher mediclorine count the Yoda himself, surely the Jedi would have noticed if Palpatine had the same.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 9:07 PM
Palpatine was powerfull enough to hide his existence from Yoda, powerfull enough to hide his existence from ALL Jedi.
I believe he knew Darth Moor was going to his death as well, in the phantom menace, he sent him to be killed by obiwan, he was just to damn eager to come out of the shadows and Palpatine wasnt ready, He's that powerfull
In the books that follow, Hier to the empire, Dark force rising, cant remember the title of the third book, and then the Jedi Academy trilogy, no one can go to the place above endor, where the emperor died, his presence still lingers, really lingers and if you go there he can still fully mess with your head.
One powerfull bugger is Palpatine.
The fantasy focus's on the Skywalkers, but Palpatine is the real "villian" of the story.

kongurous
05-11-2005, 9:10 PM
In the books that follow, Hier to the empire, Dark force rising, cant remember the title of the third book, and then the Jedi Academy trilogy, no one can go to the place above endor, where the emperor died, his presence still lingers, really lingers and if you go there he can still fully mess with your head.
One powerfull bugger is Palpatine.
The fantasy focus's on the Skywalkers, but Palpatine is the real "villian" of the story.

Nope, Exar Kun died in that temple. Palpatine isn't dead. He has lots of clones, and his spirit has a free will. Palpatine was not the villain. If he could forsee all this stuff, so could Yoda, and Yoda knew Palpatine was corrupt.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 9:19 PM
Nope, Exar Kun died in that temple. Palpatine isn't dead. He has lots of clones, and his spirit has a free will. Palpatine was not the villain. If he could forsee all this stuff, so could Yoda, and Yoda knew Palpatine was corrupt.
Yoda does seem to know some thing is up, I agree.
Palpatine died on the Second death star in orbit of Endor. There are clones. Been a couple of Luke made as well.
There is a place in the Degaba system (wouldnt have a clue how that is spelt these days LOL), were another dark jedi died, and do you remember what happend to luke when he walked in there in the Empire strikes back?
Nothing as bad as what will happen to a jedi if they enter orbit above endor though.

edit: spelling

kongurous
05-11-2005, 9:23 PM
Yoda soes seem to know soe thing is up, I agree.
Palpatine died on the Second death star in orbit of Endor. There are clones. Been a couple of Luke made well.
There is a place in the Degaba system (wouldnt have a clue how that is spelt these days LOL), were another dark jedi died, and do you remember what happend to luke when he walked in there in the Empire strikes back?
Nothing as bad as what will happen to a jedi if they enter orbit above endor though.

I believe Dooku died on Dagoba, though the reason Palpatine could be the senator, and Darth Sidious at the same time, was through clones of himself.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 9:28 PM
I believe Dooku died on Dagoba, though the reason Palpatine could be the senator, and Darth Sidious at the same time, was through clones of himself.
Are you sugesting there are clones of Palpatine right from the start?
very interisting idea by the way

kongurous
05-11-2005, 9:31 PM
Are you sugesting there are clones of Palpatine right from the start?
very interisting idea by the way

I'm not suggesting, I'm stating fact. Check starwars.com and look for Palpatine. It says so.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 9:40 PM
Well i have had a good search of starwars.com and cant find anything about Palpatine being a clone, cant find anything that says he is Darth Sidious iether, but I believe Palpatine and Darth Sidious are one in the same

kongurous
05-11-2005, 9:44 PM
Well i have had a good search of starwars.com and cant find anything about Palpatine being a clone, cant find anything that says he is Darth Sidious iether, but I believe Palpatine and Darth Sidious are one in the same

I know I read that Palpatine had clones of himself running around the galaxy, doing what he wanted to happen, and Sidious is a clone, of that, I am certain.

Toucan
05-11-2005, 9:53 PM
Would make sense that he had clones of himself (who could he trust more) and he was a sith lord, that type of psychotic thinking would not be beyond him.
But i gota admit, I would like to see the article.
my mind is definately open to the idea though.

kongurous
05-11-2005, 10:01 PM
Would make sense that he had clones of himself (who could he trust more) and he was a sith lord, that type of psychotic thinking would not be beyond him.
But i gota admit, I would like to see the article.
my mind is definately open to the idea though.

I'm still lookin' for it...

ChaoRayne
05-12-2005, 6:53 AM
Palpatine had clones? No way, it had to have been his son or something because the senator is trying to protect the princess in TPM i could be mistaken its been awhile since i've seen it but isnt he good at the end?

Nuts
05-12-2005, 7:17 AM
The posts in the last half of this thread scare me.

Toucan
05-12-2005, 9:41 AM
Palpatine had clones? No way, it had to have been his son or something because the senator is trying to protect the princess in TPM i could be mistaken its been awhile since i've seen it but isnt he good at the end?
Senator Palpatine, Becomes Emperor Palpatine, He is not good, not at all.

kongurous
05-12-2005, 11:04 AM
Palpatine had clones? No way, it had to have been his son or something because the senator is trying to protect the princess in TPM i could be mistaken its been awhile since i've seen it but isnt he good at the end?

Want a timeline of known Palpatine events? 1) becomes senator of Naboo. 2) flies the royal shuttle to Tattooine, where Qui-Gon Jin and Obi Wan Kenobi discover Anakin Skywalker. 3) Palpatine runs for Supreme Chanceller of the Republic in light of the Trade Federation blockade of Naboo. 4)Palpatine wins the election 5) 10 years after election, the Clone Wars start, and the Jedi Order start to consider the fact that Palpatine is more than meets the eye. 6) Palpatine gets emergency powers time after time, as it seems the Senate, even with a fully-prepared army and competent commanders, cannot effectively fight the Seperatists.(spoilers ahead, invisible text... AWAY!!!!!)7) Palpatine makes Anakin his representative to the Jedi Council. After the Council refuses Palpatine's order of having complete control over the Council, he makes Order 66, which outlaws all Jedi except Anakin. This is also where Palpatine first displays his Sith powers. 8) Attempted assasination from a Jedi strike team. All the Jedi sent, including Master Windu, are not seen again. 9) Palpatine convinces his lapdog, now Darth Vader, to try to capture Luke Skywalker and turn him to the Dark Side. 10) Vader fails, and Palpatine's living body is chucked into the reactor core of the Second Death Star. Also note, Palpatine had no children. He is also speculated to be Darth Sidious, and the clone theory would explain such.

Toucan
05-12-2005, 12:14 PM
I gota admit, im not convinced

If Darth Sidious is a clone and the real sith lord, why does Palpatine become the Emperor and not Sidious.
In regard to my sugestion and kongurous's and my debate, that is just an idea, a passing thought i have from time to time, I only argued because I wanted to show that if Palpatine wanted to gain access to Schmi at that time, he could have.

EDIT : Sorry Kongurous, that is wrong, they are not clones, Palpatine IS Sidious, Sidious IS Palpatine.

As Quoted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Sidious
Bit of a spoiler there so I wont paste it in.
Also this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palpatine
.

Mindslaver
05-12-2005, 2:04 PM
Would make sense that he had clones of himself (who could he trust more) and he was a sith lord, that type of psychotic thinking would not be beyond him.
But i gota admit, I would like to see the article.
my mind is definately open to the idea though.
According to one of Mini-Jedi Knights series books, one of the Emperor's clones touched Leia's womb when the twins were in it. This made no sense, but that's the way it goes.

It one of the books where the kid is named Anakin after his grandfather.

Protoss_Honor
05-12-2005, 2:16 PM
I may be stupid, so sue me, but where do you people get the idea that palpatine has clones?

kongurous
05-12-2005, 2:43 PM
I may be stupid, so sue me, but where do you people get the idea that palpatine has clones?

I get the idea, from the fact he's lived throughout the whole Star Wars timeline(which is about 45 years, considering Palpatine was about 30 in Episode 1)and could be everywhere in the galaxy at the same time.

singo
05-12-2005, 2:48 PM
whoa, thats a whole lotta clones.


Hell, even more than that.



If I could be hooped I'd work out just how many emperor palpatines it would take to fill the galaxy, but I cant be bothered.

Protoss_Honor
05-12-2005, 2:51 PM
A friend of my sisters is a star wars freak she told me that Palpatine lived so long because of manipulation of the force. And also I read somewhere once and then just now on wikipedia that his sith masterr had the power to keep people from dying and that palpatine gained that ability and used it to keep himself alive, but it was such a physical drain that he looked all wrinkly and old and ugly.

kongurous
05-12-2005, 2:57 PM
A friend of my sisters is a star wars freak she told me that Palpatine lived so long because of manipulation of the force. And also I read somewhere once and then just now on wikipedia that his sith masterr had the power to keep people from dying and that palpatine gained that ability and used it to keep himself alive, but it was such a physical drain that he looked all wrinkly and old and ugly.

His looks were probably a result of his age, as he was about 70 in Episode 6. It also says in the books that Palpatine did not fully die, as his spirit still existed. I never finished the book, but the same thing happened with Exar Kun, so... yea.

singo
05-12-2005, 3:00 PM
On a starwars note, I found this on the elder scrolls forums

http://img52.echo.cx/img52/4563/iamyourfather0jc.gif

Anyone else think we need that on WB?

Protoss_Honor
05-12-2005, 3:07 PM
I do! i do! i do! j/k

Mindslaver
05-12-2005, 8:15 PM
On a starwars note, I found this on the elder scrolls forums

http://img52.echo.cx/img52/4563/iamyourfather0jc.gif

Anyone else think we need that on WB?
I second the motion!

And on a more positive note, 7 more days...

Toucan
05-12-2005, 8:38 PM
I have often thought it is the manipulation of the dark side that destroys the body, leaving the sith lord no choice but to use the force to stay alive, but if Darth Vader is anything to go by, just because your body has been well truly stuffed, no reason not to keep kicking on
LOL

Edit, I just rememberd what the third book was called "The last Command"

So the books that followed Return of the Jedi

Thrawn Trilogy
1. Hier to the Empire
2. Dark Force Rising
3. The Last Command

Jedi Academy Trilogy
1. Jedi Search
2. The Dark Apprentice
3. Champions of the Force

There are more but I havent read any others

singo
05-13-2005, 5:22 PM
20 lines from Star Wars that can be improved if you substitute the word 'pants'


1. A tremor in the pants. The last time I felt this was in the presence of my old master.

2. We've got to be able to get some reading on those pants, up or down.

3. She must have hidden the plans in her pants. Send a detachment down to retrieve them. See to it personally, Commander.

4. These pants may not look like much, kid, but they've got it where it counts.

5. I find your lack of pants disturbing.

6. These pants contain the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it.

7. Han will have those pants down. We've got to give him more time!

8. General Veers, prepare your pants for a surface assault.

9. Lock the door. And hope they don't have pants.

10. I used to bulls-eye Womp-rats in my pants back home.

11. Governor Tarkin. I should have recognised your foul pants when I was brought on board

12. You look strong enough to pull the pants off a Gundark!

13. That blast came from those pants! That thing's operational!

14. Don't worry. Chewie and I have gotten into a lot of pants more heavily guarded than this.

15. Maybe you'd like it back in your pants, your highness.

16. Jabba doesn't have time for smugglers who drop their pants at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser.

17. Yeah, well short pants are better then no pants at all, Chewie.

18. Attention. This is Lando Calrissian. The Empire has taken control of my pants. I advise everyone to leave before more troops arrive.

19. I cannot teach him. The boy has no pants.

20. You came in those pants? You're braver then I thought.


See the original....Here (http://www.drinkingsquad.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=204)

Jedi_Templar
05-14-2005, 11:00 PM
See the original....Here (http://www.drinkingsquad.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=204)

omg funny, dood. Especially the Lando quote.

singo
05-15-2005, 7:17 AM
My personal favourite is "I find your lack of pants disturbing"


I know I would.

Mindslaver
05-15-2005, 8:56 AM
"Jabba doesn't have time for smugglers who drop their pants at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser."

This one is my personal favorite.

ChaoRayne
05-16-2005, 7:33 AM
lol awesome.. and i third....um yeah i third the motion on the smiley thing

Mindslaver
05-16-2005, 3:13 PM
Update: 3 days before it. At least that's when it's coming out here in the States.

Mindslaver
05-17-2005, 7:20 PM
I'm curious: is anyone going to see the midnight show? Is anyone here actually that fanatical?

siuloongbao
05-17-2005, 9:09 PM
I know i'm not. I'm not very fanatical. I'm going to the 5:00 show opening day.

The_Maker
05-17-2005, 10:02 PM
I am going to an 8:00 PM showing on opening day. (Although I doubt I will get any good seats :P)

Spartan-II
05-17-2005, 10:13 PM
Dude, my German teacher is going to the first showing at 12:02 in the morning.. And i'm going Friday, with a friend.

Toucan
05-17-2005, 10:16 PM
If it wasnt for the 3 kids I have now, I would be there, In a Darth Vader suit, Lightsaber in hand. LOL :P

Spartan-II
05-17-2005, 10:28 PM
Lol, looks like we have a tent nerd! (The people who camp for 7 months to see the movie..)

Toucan
05-17-2005, 11:31 PM
no no, I have only ever "camped out" for tickets for Dire Straits (money for nothing tour), ZZ Top (Afterburner tour), U2 (Under a blood red sky tour, as it became known, think it started as just the War tour), AC/DC (just after "Who Made Who" cant remember if that tour had a name), Pink Floyd, Paul McCartney (that was just after Linda McCartney had died, for some reason he chose to start his tour in Perth, everyone (here anyways) made an awfull big deal about it and Metalica (when they toured just after the black album, caught that one in Sydney, I have never camped out for a movie.

Spartan-II
05-17-2005, 11:34 PM
Omfg, it seems we have a fellow Metal Head. :)

The_Maker
05-18-2005, 5:15 PM
In 1 day... it happens :D :D :D

Atlas_Jotun
05-18-2005, 7:48 PM
You guys have faaar toooo much time on your hands, but I appreciate it, 'cause I was a bit behind the times concerning Star Wars.

Mindslaver
05-18-2005, 7:51 PM
3 hours and 11 minutes before it happens...at least, here in the States. I hear that Sweden had it out on the 15th.

Atlas_Jotun
05-18-2005, 7:54 PM
By the way, I intend to see it on Pay-Per-View a month or two after the opening.

Only three hours for you guys. I'm in Colorado and it's only 6:53 p.m.

Garrec
05-18-2005, 7:57 PM
I'm curious: is anyone going to see the midnight show? Is anyone here actually that fanatical?

Well, my friends bought me a ticket for the midnight show (they're the fanatical ones).

I've seen the previews, I liked them, but other than that... I don't know what to think. I'm not really a fan of the previous two, but whatever.

I caught Star Wars episode 4 on TV a few weeks ago, and the effects and scenery of the old stuff blew me away. All these new fancy computer 3D effects... they're just fake and lame, I don't like it much. I guess I'll decide my opinions tonight.

But recently, I have had an urge to reinstall and play some old school Jedi Knight...

siuloongbao
05-18-2005, 9:09 PM
it doesn't take that much time to post on forums! But yea, i'm going in about 22 hrs. Lol. One of my friend went to camp out about 5 hours ago, i wonder how many ppl will be camping out worldwide...

Mattimeo
05-19-2005, 3:29 AM
I'm curious: is anyone going to see the midnight show? Is anyone here actually that fanatical?

I got back from the midnight show about an hour ago. In a word, ownage.

~Don't Panic

GrassDragon
05-19-2005, 1:11 PM
I saw the midnight show, and I'll get to see it again tomorrow morning (big group of homeschoolers, cheap tickets). Very, very cool stuff. Loved teh.Vader.

hammocksleeper
05-19-2005, 1:24 PM
So give me a review, or something. How well does it connect with the ep. IV?

kongurous
05-19-2005, 3:44 PM
Did anyone see a midnight showing? I did. 12:01 AM today, stood in line for 2 hours(got there at 10PM last night), and sat through 45 minutes of people fighting over seats and announcements from the theatre staff. I won't spoil anything, but I will say the movie kicked absolute ass and it is definately worth going.

Sikawtic
05-19-2005, 4:02 PM
So George has redeemed himself? Very good indeed. I must see this now.

Mindslaver
05-19-2005, 4:15 PM
Did anyone see a midnight showing? I did. 12:01 AM today, stood in line for 2 hours(got there at 10PM last night), and sat through 45 minutes of people fighting over seats and announcements from the theatre staff. I won't spoil anything, but I will say the movie kicked absolute ass and it is definately worth going.
I decided to wait for 2 days, so I could see it on the BFS (Big @#$%ing Screen). Since I already know what's going to happen, I wanted to see it in higher quality.

Some kid that I know has already seen it 5 times...he skipped school to do that. What a weirdo.

The_Maker
05-19-2005, 4:23 PM
I decided to wait for 2 days, so I could see it on the BFS (Big @#$%ing Screen). Since I already know what's going to happen, I wanted to see it in higher quality.

Some kid that I know has already seen it 5 times...he skipped school to do that. What a weirdo.
5 times on opening day? :o Now thats a fanatic person.

Cygnus
05-19-2005, 4:46 PM
Hmm... haven't seen it yet of course, but I've read the graphic novel adaptation a few months ago...

It's awsome working in a comic book store and getting previews of books coming out. I'll see the movie later this week. :)

Toucan
05-19-2005, 6:21 PM
Some kid that I know has already seen it 5 times...he skipped school to do that. What a weirdo.
Whats so werid about that man??? :)
j/k
gonna see it in about 2 1/2 hours

Kingscrab
05-19-2005, 9:03 PM
Whats so werid about that man??? :)
j/k
gonna see it in about 2 1/2 hours
You must see it as soon as possible! It is SWEET!!!!!!

Mtank
05-19-2005, 9:37 PM
I too saw the movie, and loved it.

although there was no Boba Fett. WHY, lucas WHY??

kongurous
05-19-2005, 10:13 PM
Anyone know that George Lucas made an appearance in Episode III? He was a character named Baron Papanoida, and he appeared right before the opera scene. Proof? Behold: http://www.thegreenhead.com/entertainment/2005/02/baron-papanoida-george-lucas-cameo-in.php

Protosschick99
05-20-2005, 1:19 AM
OMG THAT MOVIE ROCKED!!

I saw it today at like 9:30 in the morning. We went in the morning cuz that's when all the news crews come to interview you :D

I went with my mom, my brother, and my current love interest/good friend/soon-to-be-bf--Matt :)

Channel 7 and Channel 2 news were there--Matt, my brother, I were in the background of channel 7. I was like, "YEAH!" lolz. I woke up at five o clock this morning so that way we could get there early. I wish we would have just spent the night on the sidewalk but my mom wanted to go home.

That's what I did for Episode I, I spent the night on the sidewalk the night before to see it the next night at 10:30. I was like in the 8th grade :)

Anywayz---Oh man oh man Episode III is by far the BEST episode out of all of three of the first ones!! It made me laugh, it made me shout with excitement, I cheered, hollared, and it made me CRY!!!! This is like the first Star Wars movie EVER to make me cry!!!!

SPOILER COMING UP----------------------------------------------------------

















































Here's the part I cried over--When the Jedi Temple was being attacked, and all the Jedi were being killed, and then Anakin (He already switched over to the dark side) came to the temple and the younglings were hiding inside the counsel room. It hit me hard when the little boy asked "Master Anakin" what to do because they were over-run--Anakin then busts out his light sabers and KILLS THEM :( Oh man my heart like literally dropped the floor and tears flowed freely! Then when all the Jedi Masters were getting killed by their own armies made me sad as well.




















































SPOILER OVER--------------------------------------------

It was a sad movie but an awesome one! I've been thinking about it ALL DAY! Like, I can't get over certain parts, I'm like--"Omg I can't believe this happened!!" and "Why did Anakin do that to Padme?!?!" and "How the heck did a little boy that was so sweet turn so ugly??!!"

But it HAD to happen.....Man, that movie got me so emotionally involved that I LOVE IT!!! I give it 50 Million Thumbs UP! lolz :P

ChaoRayne
05-20-2005, 7:26 AM
havent seen the movie but since all u ppl said it was badass im gonna take ur word 4 it and hope George didnt mess it up..... hope its worth it :)

The_Maker
05-20-2005, 11:36 AM
havent seen the movie but since all u ppl said it was badass im gonna take ur word 4 it and hope George didnt mess it up..... hope its worth it :)
Oh believe me, its worth it... it is very worth it :D

Toucan
05-20-2005, 11:52 AM
Well if an opinion is all can post this is it (Hanging to have a good yarn about this movie), imo this is the best of the 3, I have to re-watch the first 3 as well, I think it may well be the second best of all 6, second to A New Hope.
This one had me on the edge of my seat from start to finish, you even realise you are missing stuff, there is just so much going on.
Can't wait to see it again.

GrassDragon
05-20-2005, 7:06 PM
Saw it again this morning, got to concentrate on the little stuff more, and less on visuals like the light saber battles and General Grievous (that dude was frickin shweet!).

I must say that the acting and dialogue was not that good. I read somewhere a while back that Lucas forced himself to write it, and I think it shows. Granted, the visuals are awesome, the characters are cool, it answers every question and ties the two trilogies quite well, but I though the actors were lacking, Padme especially (she just seemed so fake).

By the way guys, anybody wanna throw down $650+ for this baby (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=99970&item=6532639924&rd=1)? :P

kongurous
05-20-2005, 7:09 PM
Hmmm... I know what to get my oldest brother for Christmas, now.

op6
05-20-2005, 10:53 PM
I must say that the acting and dialogue was not that good. I read somewhere a while back that Lucas forced himself to write it, and I think it shows.

I though the actors were lacking, Padme especially (she just seemed so fake).


I noticed this in Attack of the Clones. Padme did good in the first one, but in the second one she seemed, well, out of it. Maybe it was the whole love thing that made me think this, but I also thought all the actors were lacking in their acting.

Oh on another note. Did everything in the second flim seem really, really fake(CGI wise)? In the first one you(at least I) knew things were fake, but didn't overall really notice, but in the second it was obivious.

Maybe it was the Digital Flim they used to record the second one since they didn't use it in the first. Or maybe it was because they used so much blue screen(as they show in the extras).

- Sorry for going off topic but I was curious to know what y'all thought.

Mindslaver
05-21-2005, 4:08 PM
Saw it again this morning, got to concentrate on the little stuff more, and less on visuals like the light saber battles and General Grievous (that dude was frickin shweet!).
I saw it today.

I hated it. Well, it was good, but the fact that General Grievous had such little screen time, didn't kill any Jedi, and *SPOILER* died at the bolt of a pistol made him lose his coolness factor.

I mean, I wanted to see him hunt down Jedi! Take their lightsabers!

But I liked the political lessons the movie teaches. Chancellor Palpatine reminds me of President Bush - don't ask why.

hammocksleeper
05-21-2005, 8:14 PM
But I liked the political lessons the movie teaches. Chancellor Palpatine reminds me of President Bush - don't ask why.

Hahaha I hate that. Political commentary of that scale has no place in an action/sci-fi/fantasy/whatever you want to call it film like Star Wars. Here's a direct quote that mentions some of this from a movie critic of one of our papers (a fairly liberal one at that).

Yet even in the heat of lightsaber juggling, there are moments when you can both love Lucas and wish he’d never picked up a camera. In the most prominent of such scenes, the lines are all too familiar: Sith lord: “You are either with me or against me!” Responds the Jedi: “Only a Sith deals in absolutes!” This after an earlier question from Padmé, “What if the democracy we’re fighting for no longer exists?” Uh-oh, you’ll hear the audience catch on, someone just got busted.

Lucas' bold political statement is applaudable, but it is as weirdly out of place and just as clumsy as everything else in the movie. It is both the best and worst example of how this series long ago died as storytelling to be reborn as a grotesque moneymaking scheme.... -

-- Wayne Melton

Mindslaver
05-21-2005, 8:51 PM
"So this is how democracy dies...to thunderous applause."
-Padme Amidala

Sounds like something Eisenhower would have said, had the Axis won WWII.

The_Maker
05-21-2005, 9:46 PM
"So this is how democracy dies...to thunderous applause."
-Padme Amidala

Sounds like something Eisenhower would have said, had the Axis won WWII.
I love that quote :) Just as much as I love the whole movie! :D

TheGreatBrain
05-21-2005, 11:15 PM
Well, I saw it on Saturday and I give it a 6/10.

It was definitely the best of the three prequels. The special effects were great, of course, and the fight scenes were great fun to watch. The plot had a little more depth. Of course when compared with the previous two that's like saying this AIDS patient is a little more mobile than this parapalegic. But the improvement over the other two films was very noticeable. I think it might be better than Return of the Jedi.

But Anakin's actor what's his name is still pretty wooden. Also, I love how Palpatine convinced Anakin to do such horrible things with just a vague promise. It seemed to go a little something like this:

Palpatine: Join me.
Anakin: I'm not sure.
Palpatine: I can save Padme maybe.
Anakin: Oh well I'll go kill some kids then.

Also they were not exactly subtle about cramming a million references to the original films into the last ten minutes. It's like we're just going along and then bam break out the grey imperial officer uniforms and hop into back into the ship from the beginning of A New Hope again.

And God, how did they manage to screw up the Vader scene so bad? There he was, all black, all shiny, and all badass (and all James Earl Jones omg), and then he stumbles off of the platform and hollers "NOOOooOOoOoOoOoooOO" so ridiculously that I actually burst out laughing in the theater. Everybody around me probably hated me.

All in all it was okay though.

PS: My little green friend hahahahahahahahahahha

Sikawtic
05-21-2005, 11:54 PM
Me and my friends made jokes teh entire movie, as always ^_^, so we were laughin the entire time...


did anyone else think the scenes between ani and padme slowed the movie down? ++ when she started fake crying we bursted out laughing, she was really bad in that scene xD

Mindslaver
05-22-2005, 9:38 AM
Here's one that I came up with.
"I meant 66!"
-Emperor Palpatine's last words

ZeroDarkStar
05-22-2005, 1:59 PM
And God, how did they manage to screw up the Vader scene so bad? There he was, all black, all shiny, and all badass (and all James Earl Jones omg), and then he stumbles off of the platform and hollers "NOOOooOOoOoOoOoooOO" so ridiculously that I actually burst out laughing in the theater. Everybody around me probably hated me.

Actually the entire theatre laughed when I saw it. One guy even had the nerve to shout out: "What a pussy!"

Wick3d
05-22-2005, 6:30 PM
How did Mace Windu completly kick the emporer's ass, yet Yoda was unable to defeat him?

Valjean
05-22-2005, 7:54 PM
Windu mearly reflected the lightning back at Palpatine with his light sabre, and all it seemed to do was make him about as feeble as he would be in only 1 or 2 years while his face was deformed. He clearly had the power to defeat Windu, but he wanted to let Aniken take the first step to the Dark Side.

DragonPaladin
05-22-2005, 8:40 PM
I played to at the most exciting part of the movie, turn around an with my highest flash on, take a picture of the entire auidence. I was sitting at the bottom...But I had no film.

I played to at the most exciting part of the movie, turn around an with my highest flash on, take a picture of the entire auidence. I was sitting at the bottom...But I had no film.

Protosschick99
05-22-2005, 9:27 PM
It was awesome when I went! I went and saw it again this Saturday with my best friend, we were like the only girls cheering. And no one else was >.< I was like, "Dang....Tough crowd." lolz :p

The_Maker
05-22-2005, 10:14 PM
Well, where I went... people were cheering, crying, laughing, all that Jazz. But I can't believe everyone laughed at Darth Vader yelling that blood hurtling No!!!!!!. I found that rather realistic (but then again I am a Star Wars fan so what can I say :P). And TGB, it wasn't "go kill some kids to save Pademe" it was much more than that, but it seems you aren't as big a fan of the film as I am ;)

Btw, did anyone (actually I hope EVERYONE) notice that the "code" for killing the Jedi was 66... when in reality that has a very large similarity to 666 (Satan's number) I liked how that was tied in :)

I want to see it again next weekend after all of school is over

kongurous
05-22-2005, 10:21 PM
Btw, did anyone (actually I hope EVERYONE) notice that the "code" for killing the Jedi was 66... when in reality that has a very large similarity to 666 (Satan's number) I liked how that was tied in :)

And? My initials are similar to the acronym ER for Emergency Room. Doesn't mean I am an emergency room. Everything needs a name, and with all the wierd names in Star Wars, for all we know, the emperor put on a blindfold, put some numbers in a hat, and got 66 when he looked at the piece of paper. 66 wasn't a code, it was an order that was planned, and the Clones were obviously told about it.

The_Maker
05-22-2005, 10:22 PM
And? My initials are similar to the acronym ER for Emergency Room. Doesn't mean I am an emergency room. Everything needs a name, and with all the wierd names in Star Wars, for all we know, the emperor put on a blindfold, put some numbers in a hat, and got 66 when he looked at the piece of paper. 66 wasn't a code, it was an order that was planned, and the Clones were obviously told about it.
Meh, you have no logic what-so-ever :P

Spock would be most dis-pleased

Spartan-II
05-22-2005, 10:41 PM
Here's a story to tell my kids: I rode 3 miles in a torrential downpour to watch Episode 3!

I'm not kidding. Traffic was so heavy 2 other friends and I decided to ride our bike the 1 1/2 miles to the Mall. About 100 feet away from his house though, a very bad storm erupted and I was drenched so bad it took the 2 1/2 hours just to dry my shirt. Then, as we were riding back, it rained on us again.. And it had stopped during the movie.

Toucan
05-22-2005, 11:14 PM
We dropped the kids off at day care and went and watched it friday morning while all the kids were at school, it was good, 9:30 am session, only like 10 people in the cinema
Could only imagine what it would have been like on friday night or saturday.

I have always thought Palpatine may have had something to do with the birth of Anikin. That he mentioned it in the movie (using meticlorian's to induce life) enforces that theory for me, but then I also thought what if Anikin was in fact Darth Plagueis (in a former life), the sith lord that worked out how to induce and extend life using miticlorians, maby he also worked out how to use the miticlorians to be reborn.

Wick3d
05-23-2005, 8:13 PM
INteresting fact : The Sith Palpatine mentions, Darth Plagueis, was Darth Sidious's master. When Palpatine explains how the apprentice kills Plagueis, it was actually Palpatine who did it.

edit - another question posed by the first trilogy. How is it that later, Darth Vader doesn't recognize C-3PO and R2-D2?

TheGreatBrain
05-23-2005, 8:46 PM
And TGB, it wasn't "go kill some kids to save Pademe" it was much more than that, but it seems you aren't as big a fan of the film as I am ;)
Then what was it?

Spartan-II
05-23-2005, 8:47 PM
Anakin beleived that only by pledging his allegiance to Sideous would Padme be saved, and that meant destroying the Jedi.

Windwalker
05-23-2005, 8:56 PM
I watched Episode 2 on Tv and 3 the Previous Night, then something hit me

In the book series the Death Star is created by Grand Moff Tarkin Personal Think-Tank, while the movies show the separtist made it.

Mindslaver
05-24-2005, 6:47 PM
edit - another question posed by the first trilogy. How is it that later, Darth Vader doesn't recognize C-3PO and R2-D2?
I think he does remember, doesn't he? The two droids are on the ship, and he wants to find them at the beginning, and they use the escape pod and flee.

kongurous
05-24-2005, 6:51 PM
In the book series the Death Star is created by Grand Moff Tarkin Personal Think-Tank, while the movies show the separtist made it.

The books aren't officially recognized as the story. Besides, Sidious probably made the CIS plans for the Death Star.

Meh, you have no logic what-so-ever :P

Spock would be most dis-pleased

Actually, yes I do have logic, however, having 66 as the designation doesn't mean shit, it just means Lucas was thinking of the sixth number after sixty when he wrote Episode 3.

Toucan
05-24-2005, 7:59 PM
You gota remember as well, when George made Star Wars he didnt know it was going to be a sucsess (well he did, but the doubt of everyone around him), I think he chose episode 4 because it had such a complete storyline, so things like recognising the droids or continuing storys would not have made sense to the audience, he wanted to make it a sucsess, once he achieved that he could do more with it.
I think it would be great to see a new version of A New Hope, it would have more continuance.
I liked the special order 66, people can take what they like from it.
Thinking about it now my favorite scene in the entire movie was the battle between Yoda and Palpatine as the podium rose.

Mindslaver
05-24-2005, 8:10 PM
This may be a bit of a stretch, but do you think that the Order 66 has any relevance to the number 666, which, I believe, is held with negative connotaions by Christians?

They are both related to apocalypse, in a way.

Toucan
05-24-2005, 8:26 PM
I have always thought that the number 666 being related to the devil in anyway was actually just hollywood hype.
I would be interisted in learning where it came from if that is not the case though.

TheGreatBrain
05-24-2005, 9:21 PM
Anakin beleived that only by pledging his allegiance to Sideous would Padme be saved, and that meant destroying the Jedi.
Isn't that what I said?

TranquilNightElf
05-25-2005, 2:16 AM
And God, how did they manage to screw up the Vader scene so bad? There he was, all black, all shiny, and all badass (and all James Earl Jones omg), and then he stumbles off of the platform and hollers "NOOOooOOoOoOoOoooOO" so ridiculously that I actually burst out laughing in the theater. Everybody around me probably hated me.

All in all it was okay though.



Yeah that did seem awkard ;)... but It seems that the suit was made top-heavy on purpose to prevent Darth Vader from seeming already accustomed and familiar with moving around in a mechanical suit.

BlackHawk
05-28-2005, 1:56 PM
FINALLY saw it last night. It rocked, though as people have said that whole "Noooooooooooooo" part was just way to cheesy. The lightsaber stuff was sick though.

Black.Ice
05-29-2005, 2:09 AM
I saw this today, and I liked it. I was never much of a Star Wars fan, but it was a good movie.

The part where Dark Vader yells, "Nooooooooooooo" had me crack a smile. A guy a few rows away from me mumbled out, "What the hell...." in a very, slow, confused tone that got our entire section laughing. The only other time the audience let out a laugh was when Yoda walked into the room and tossed the two guards aside.

Other than that, it was an okay movie. I agree with TGB that they tried to join the movie together in the last 15 minutes. I thought it was funny seeing all the old references pop outta nowhere.

Anakin turning to the dark side also seemed a bit abrupt.

Anyways, I didn't really care about the small details and I enjoyed it as a movie. Oh, and on a side note as I walked out of the theater and into the hallway there was this guy dressed up as Darth Vader followed by four storm troopers. He was just patrolling up and down the halls. It had me laughing in surprise as I walked out of the theater half dazed.

BlackHawk
05-29-2005, 11:12 AM
The only other time the audience let out a laugh was when Yoda walked into the room and tossed the two guards aside.

Haha, yea, the audience in my theatre laughed at that, I guess he's just so...cute :rolleyes:.

Demon_Child
05-29-2005, 11:19 AM
I got a kick out of R2D2 toasting those two battle droids on the Trade Federation battleship after releasing some oil onto the two of them and firing his boster rockets.