Area 51

[Night-Hawk]

Hey all I'v always was intrested in aliens U.F.O's and the hole shit like that and I was woundering what do you think about AREA 51 :o do you think its acctualy there if there really is any aliens out there, have we acctualy been aubducted * spelling :confused: * by them ???? or are they are great great great great great great great x30000 mothers and fathers that left use here to rot lol jk, or are we just an experiment for them ????

[Spartan-II]

First of all, EWW YOUR GRAMMAR SUCKS. That said..

I think an Area 51 does exist, (A.K.A The Groom Lake facility) but i'm pretty sure they don't house aliens or anything of that sort there, it's probably some top secret weapons site. (After all the Blackbird came out of there, and I <3 the Blackbird. [I think it's the SR-71 Blackbird but i'm not sure])

[Ragnarox]

After all the Blackbird came out of there, and I <3 the Blackbird.

Heh...heh, not to mention that the long suspected "Aroura Strike Bomber Project" is suspected to be conducted there.


Well lets see...

Accodring to the History Channel, Area 51 was disclosed by...can't remember which president for some reason errgh!...in the early 1960's saying that "Yes we do have a military facility in the Navada desert for testing top of the line military aircraft."

However, he made no reference to any kind of extra-terrestrial storages at the facility. However, some information (don't know about credibility) did leak out in the 1970's (I think) about a bunker at the base called "S4" that was suspected to contain extra-terrestrial specimens for later experimentation.

About 15 years ago though, the topic of heated disscusion about Area 51 switched from extra-terrestrials, to the burning of hazardous chemicals at the facility. Many employees of the facility had over time developed multiple disorders and the build up of heavy metals in some of their systems. Some suffer from damaged skin due to toxins that dehydrates the skin an causes it to crack...severely. Their nervous system eventually becomes inflammed and they feel burning sensations all the time.

Very recently though, in 2001, the entire facility of Area 51 was suspected to have been removed to an undisclosed location. It is rumored to be somewhere in New Mexico.

[Night-Hawk]

Wow dont remeber hearing anything about that wow thats intresting well now i'm ganna try and find out some more info on this :D

[Jeff]

Yes Area-51 does exist. As for aliens, I highly doubt it :)

[Protogod]

how naive are you, night hawk. its obviously a distraction. at some time it may have been real, but for the last few years at least it has been fake. if the government wanted to have a clandestine project, they would. Look how obvious the guard is. The signs, the patrols, if they wanted to have operations on aliens, it would be in an secret place, someplace you wouldnt think twice about, someplace normal. As for aliens, the odds are that they actually exist, but it would take lightyears for them to get here, meaning they would never survive the trip.

[kongurous]

As for aliens, the odds are that they actually exist, but it would take lightyears for them to get here, meaning they would never survive the trip.
A lightyear isn't a time staple, protogod, it's a distance. A lightyear is how far light can travel in a standard Earth year, or about 365 days. And you have no right to call someone naive, when the thread isn't even(entirely)about extraterrestrial sentient lifeforms. As for Area-51, sure, it exists, but I don't know anything about it.

[DFIK]

Why doubt aliens? How can anyone say that they don't exist, I find it very unlikely that out of the jillion-billion-trillion-fillion-million-killion-willion-agadubbajillion planets out ther,e that not a single one of them ahve any life on them.

Have they come to Earth? I'm 99% sure they didn't. Thats dumb.

Are They Lil Green Men? Probably not, we're looking at like molecules here, thats alien life. Don't forget that. Maybe there are lil worms on Saturn. Who knows?

Area 51 = Aliens? Nah. Just a secret weapons research thing. Thats all.

Roswell? Possible, but like before highly unlikely. I think that whatever crashed wasn't an air balloon or whatver, but probably some sort of secret fighter jet. Thats a lot more likely.

Well I think there are aliens, not necessarily lil green men, but aliens overall.

-DFIK

[Geno]

[I think it's the SR-71 Blackbird but i'm not sure]

Oh em jee, I love that band!

Waitaminute... We're not talking about SR-71? Crap... Nevermind...

But yea, I think that Area 51 definately exists, and as for aliens, I somewhat believe it. I'm not saying they do, but I'm not saying they don't.

There's always possible things to explain how different things are how they are. Stonehenge, crop circles, etc. And yes, I've heard how crop circles are made by people that use wooden boards, and I've seen them do it on TV many times. But other things are hard to explain, and I believe that some of them could be done by other life-forms.

~Larry "Geno" Meyers
- BI's RP forum Aide

[Protoss_Honor]

they have found molacules on mars and that is alien life cause they don't originate from earth so they are alien so yeah aliens exist. as for area 51 yeah its real t.v. says its real. Never doubt t.v. its always true j/k

[Night-Hawk]

And you have no right to call someone naive,


Awww Dont worry its iight :D

[singo]

they have found molacules on mars
I could find billions of molecules anywhere.

Area-51, possible, but if their race did not come looking for them they are obviously not interested in us (and a bunch of callous bastards to boot).

Secret weapons testing happens all over the place, but a facility that got a shed-load of publicity would not be a good place. Same for aliens.



and yes, the Blackbird does have the designation SR-71

[Protoss_Honor]

im sorry i said molecules i meant single celled organisms which qualify as aliens cause they didn't originate from earth (don't think they did anyways)

[Zeltaris]

how naive are you, night hawk. its obviously a distraction. at some time it may have been real, but for the last few years at least it has been fake. if the government wanted to have a clandestine project, they would. Look how obvious the guard is. The signs, the patrols, if they wanted to have operations on aliens, it would be in an secret place, someplace you wouldnt think twice about, someplace normal. As for aliens, the odds are that they actually exist, but it would take lightyears for them to get here, meaning they would never survive the trip. A lightyear isn't a time staple, protogod, it's a distance. A lightyear is how far light can travel in a standard Earth year, or about 365 days. And you have no right to call someone naive, when the thread isn't even(entirely)about extraterrestrial sentient lifeforms. Errr... kong... even with lightyears being a distance measure you have to take into account that distances in space make for huge-arsed trips. The closest star is 4.3 lightyears away. Yup, that's 4 years and four months~ at light speed. Of course, you lot already know that it's physically impossible to acceleratee matter anywhere close to lightspeed. We're talking about G-forces, fuel systems and tonnes of random junk like interstellar radiation and the IJH [Heh...]. It'd be impossible for lifeforms -as we know them- to survive such a trip. Anything beyond that is mere speculation

As for Area-51... I thought it was already a known fact that it existed? Ragnarox's post pretty much covers it all... when in doubt, call him. He's part of the forum's Warfreak Squad *cough*40k-whores*cough*
:P

[Schwitzer]

Why doubt aliens? How can anyone say that they don't exist, I find it very unlikely that out of the jillion-billion-trillion-fillion-million-killion-willion-agadubbajillion planets out ther,e that not a single one of them ahve any life on them.

Have they come to Earth? I'm 99% sure they didn't. Thats dumb.

Are They Lil Green Men? Probably not, we're looking at like molecules here, thats alien life. Don't forget that. Maybe there are lil worms on Saturn. Who knows?

Area 51 = Aliens? Nah. Just a secret weapons research thing. Thats all.

Roswell? Possible, but like before highly unlikely. I think that whatever crashed wasn't an air balloon or whatver, but probably some sort of secret fighter jet. Thats a lot more likely.

Well I think there are aliens, not necessarily lil green men, but aliens overall.

-DFIK
This post essentially says everything I think about the issue. I'm sure there's life - of some form - somewhere outside our own solar system, although I highly doubt it's a super-technologically advanced race with nothing better to do than sodomise random earthlings.

Area 51 - in my opinion - does exist and is used for top-secret experimentation, but I doubt aliens feature in this.

I'd say the Roswell crash was a secret fighter jet, too.

Interestingly enough, has anyone played Deus Ex? Namely, the Area 51 location?

[X-Master2]

Aliens-possibley
Area 51-maybe

other than that, who the hell knows? Not any of us thats for sure. And on light speed travel, this is just a theory, but wouldn't it be faster to use a ship capable of traversing vast distances by taking point A and making it exist in point B, and thus traveling across whole distances within the blink of an eye, but this is just pure speculation of course.

EX: its like making 2 dots at opposite ends of a piece of paper, then folding the piece of paper until those two dots touch, then it would be like taking a pencil and putting it through both of the dots, the pencil being the ship, thus you would be at your destination, I think.

[uchafu]

Life in other planets is possible, but I don't think that aliens have come to our planet. I mean, c'mon they must have better things to do and the distance is ridiculously big to even get close to our solar system. All those speculations about alien abduction and findings are just a great way for selling alien related merchandise or make TV programs (It's a great business).

As for Area 51, I dunno there are a lot of rumors about its existence. Maybe it exists, but what's the difference?...Another military base in the USA...Big surprise.


other than that, who the hell knows? Not any of us thats for sure. And on light speed travel, this is just a theory, but wouldn't it be faster to use a ship capable of traversing vast distances by taking point A and making it exist in point B, and thus traveling across whole distances within the blink of an eye, but this is just pure speculation of course.

EX: its like making 2 dots at opposite ends of a piece of paper, then folding the piece of paper until those two dots touch, then it would be like taking a pencil and putting it through both of the dots, the pencil being the ship, thus you would be at your destination, I think.
That is from Event Horizon right?...Creepy movie. There is a myth that involves Einstein working in this sort of idea, transporting ships from one naval base from another, through some sort of warping device...But that's just also rumors.

There are many theories for the light speed travel. One of my friends, an expert in math, told me that the movement at light speed describes a fourth dimensional movement. Therefore, if an object travels at light speed it is sure that it will travel in time...So if aliens visit the earth, it is sure that they come from many thousand of years from the future (Which could explain the advanced technology of light speed travel). But again I'm no expert, so I dunno.

[Spartan-II]

About the Einstein thing, the ships were allegedly wrapped in wiring, and then had uber amounts of electricity pumped through them. They were supposed to 'bend' space and thus teleport it.. (This is a vague recollection of some crap off of the History Channel).

I definitely beleive aliens exist, but i'm no where near pompous enough to beleive that they would come lightyears out of their way to rape Earth of it's resources.

[singo]

Of course, you lot already know that it's physically impossible to acceleratee matter anywhere close to lightspeed.
nope, at CERN they have syncrotrons that accelerate matter to 99.99% of lightspeed.

admittedly, it can only be done to single particles with an electric charge, but damn near lightspeed is more than possible.

G-forces are not a problem if accelleration happens slowly (although accellerating slowly to lightspeed would take a while).


and instantaneous point A -> B has been done, only with electrons to date however :D

[Vhaeraun]

First: Area 51 is definitely a place. As someone said on this thread earlier, the name most use for it now is The Groom Lake Facility.

Second: Aliens are a given in the vastness of the universe. We would get quite lonely being the only planet capable of supporting life. (Our life. There are probably many other species in space that have different living standards. Like trying to bring a whale and putting it on land; it would die so fast because of its enormous size and weight).

Third: Area 51 was active back when no one knew about it. Since the info came out about its existence, the real fun stuff now occurs underground or at some other secret government installation (Knowing the US Govt, there are prolly hundreds of secret bases scattered throughout the uncharted territory of the US.

Fourth: As technology gets better, the possibility of lightspeed travel grows ever better. I see it as only a matter of time until hyper lightspeed engines are more than a dream. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but it will happen prolly within the next 1000 years.

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Issues ranging from Area 51 to the Illuminati are talked about on their forums, and if you are a government conspiracy junkie, ATS is a good place to check out.