Help Basic of ZvP plz

[GoatseS_BoxeR]

I need to know the basic of ZvP like wut ur drone count should be, wut should i do when the guy goes templar, or when to switch from production units-->battle units, and when to expand and how much expansion should i have.
thx

[Ahzz]

wut ur drone count should be In most cases its about 15 or a little bit more in bases.( Like if it is 8 minerals, + 1 gas, then its about 3 to gas + 12 minerals, so you get good economy.)

wut should i do when the guy goes templar Usually its just the units that you already have, or gonna do. It's in most cases just more micro, so the storm or archons wont kill all of your army. Many times its just running and hitting, taking usually templars and archons first. Or if mutas, do an hit and run so archons wont get too much damage on them (splash....) and if not else, just fly around, and when the archon is at bad position go and kill templar or two and run again (or fly)


when to switch from production units-->battle units
In most cases its when you get the drone count what i earlier said. Or, if you dont yet have enough drones, but you have like... spawning pool just finished, make some lings and then add the missing drones, so your opponent cant rush you with zealots so easily.


and when to expand and how much expansion should i have.
thx
To expand, is when the earlier one is properly running ( the drone amount + some defence that they are not taken down by a few zealots) Or, if your opponent has same amount or more expands. The minimum is one more expand than your opponent.

hmm, here are two reps... I dont even know how long has it been i played them, but I think they will show you the basics etc. For now.

[Ahzz]

sorry, those reps were a bit bad ;/ I'll try to provide new ones soon

[ReD_ICE]

To make a long story short:
1) Lings + Mutals VS Goons
2) Lurkers + Lings VS Zealot + Goons
3) Hydras + Lurkers VS Zealots + Goons
4) Hydras + Lings VS Zealots + High Templars

thats what i would do, but hey, who am i?

[Schwitzer]

thats what i would do, but hey, who am i?
A Terran player, apparently.

[Sambo83]

Learning when to make drones in ZvP is hard. I'm sure Ahzz really has no idea how it works and neither do I. It just takes a lot of practice. You have to try to get a count on how many zealots he has with your overlord. The rule of thumb is, build drones whenever you can, build lings whenever you have to. Now figuring out when that is is a matter of you going on bnet and playing 1000 more ZvPs, then you can come back and report to the rest of us.

[Cpt.Chronic]

Yeah, I'd like to know that too. ZvP is by far my worst matchup. I always seem to get over-powered at about the 12 minute mark.

[Sambo83]

Ya.. I don't understand it at all.. when I played neverborn and I 2 gate, he would be taking his mineral only when my zeal speed was like half done, and by the time it was done, I couldn't pressure it at all because the sunkens were just finishing. His timing was perfect.. but when I play zerg it seems like I get stuck in my nat for a long time.. If I'm playing well and my opponent is my level Then I can usually start taking my min only after their first 2 temps are done.. I know that's too slow, but if I power more earlier I die. It's very tricky :(

[ReD_ICE]

A Terran player, apparently.

exactly ;P