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Subjukator
01-16-2005, 7:09 PM
Ok. My problem is that we have the car (me and this girl i like). We just got nowhere to go. Like, we dont know a destination that would suit our specific needs, which is basically just going to be semi-sexual the entire time :o

Cant go to her or my house, or a friends. Too young to go to a club or something. Resturants... we're too poor and too full. The mall... boring. It's winter outside so we cant like walk at a park or something. drugs are out. Snowball fight? At 8:30 pm? probably not... no carnivals/festivals are happening around town, not that there would be one at this time of year.

hmm... ummm... the best thing I can think of is dave & busters but that's like... far away. too far to drive anywayz. then i arrive at the conclusion of just aimless cruising to some secluded area... but we dont know each other that well, just yet.

What do I do?!?!?!?! The dilemma is killing meeeeee!!!

Markpyro
01-16-2005, 7:24 PM
If these are stupid, sorry. Im not exactly sure of the situation you are in:
Movies
Go to a little cafe, sit around for a while.
Library

Subjukator
01-16-2005, 7:30 PM
cafe seems like a good idea... but the conversation is gunna kill! best idea so far though...

oh, and we've already done the "go to movies --> hold hands --> make-out afterwards" thing

eh.

Calibur
01-16-2005, 7:35 PM
Place to go, your car has a back seat don't it???

Nah just kidding(But if your into the back seat idea then go ahead.)

Already gone to the movies huh, well I'm afraid that you my friend will HAVE to talk to her, start of in a nice public place then once you gain more confidence take her out for a walk or a drive just as long as its only the two of you.

Ender
01-16-2005, 8:59 PM
/me laughs at Calibur

Well said, mate.

Well, Sub my date-challenged friend, there is nothing wrong with a repeat date. There IS more than one movie out...I can honestly say that Elektra kicks ass (and the girls like it too) and Meet the Fockers is hilarious beyond reason. The movies is always good when nothing else is available.

Markpyro
01-16-2005, 9:38 PM
Yes,

Take her to a small little cafe, grab some coffee or something, talk for a while. You dont have to start out big, just spark up conversation on regular gossip... New TV shows... something you are interested in... etc.

Moser
01-16-2005, 10:14 PM
Movies are always good. Go to an older movie because chances are not many people will be there and you can talk. It will give you something to talk about too. The movie. Good luck buddy.

Geno
01-16-2005, 10:58 PM
Do something nice. Go to a mall or something that's open late. If not that, then Wal-Mart hide and seek is fun. You play hide and seek while not getting caught. We do that out here (Since there's nothing else to do at college XD), and it's awesome...

If all else fails, go to a park or something... If not there, then just drive around town or something. You'll find something. Oh, and good job getting the make out afterwards thing ;)

Score!

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

P.S. Sex is overrated. Don't go there until you're married.[/personal opinion]

LordAhriman
01-16-2005, 11:19 PM
One word: roofies.

Actually, just take her to the movies and make out in the back. It's not so hard, really. If she's as willing as you make her out to be (no pun intended) then she'll have no problems with you not taking her to a steak dinner.

I am a teenager, and if there is one thing I have learned out of my limited experience in dating it is that if you think you love a woman, do not go after her. Forget about her. Not that love is too mature a concept for teenagers to handle, but that it is just too fucking hurtful to you and the girl you're after to be obsessed with her.

P.S.: Sex is one of the few joys of living. If you hold back until marriage, you're cutting yourself down in your prime. Do it as often as possible with as many beautiful women as possible. At the end of your life, you will regret nothing.

GrassDragon
01-16-2005, 11:19 PM
Ahh, the everpresent question: what to do? Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you (no pun intended :P), but I don't even have a car :\ I'll be watching this thread for ideas...

Schwitzer
01-16-2005, 11:20 PM
Well movies has been said (how surprising!), but there's always other things to do like ten pin bowling, roller blading etc.

Hahaha... sex on roller blades... sounds intriguing.

Calibur
01-17-2005, 12:06 AM
I don't know about that last part Schwitzer, never had much balance on roller skates. Wouldn't want to disable anything.

OboeGuru
01-17-2005, 12:16 AM
A secluded area does not, in any way, have to be different than a movie or a café, for the record.
If I were in your situation (which I've never been (also for the record) ), I would do the secluded area thing.

Hahaha... sex on roller blades... sounds intriguing.
I thought I was the only one!

RogueRed2
01-17-2005, 1:29 AM
If I were you, I would go to a local cafe or a starbucks(if they're open) and get a cup of coffee with her.

or for less talk go to barnes and noble or some other bookstore of that nature and browse books together :)

AJ
01-17-2005, 2:25 AM
Roller blades.. hrm.. i like it.
/me imagines himself attempting it..

Yeah. Sorry Jen, I'll just stop now. ;)

Draix
01-17-2005, 5:39 AM
What's so bad about talking to this chick? I mean is she the type that has an IQ just north of a bedroom slipper?

Hawthorne
01-17-2005, 10:13 AM
Actually Draix that would be my girlfriend ( Blonde, but let's just say it's not the IQ I'm interested it, she could make a blind man see).

Well let's see my suggestions:
Read a book with her. ( Geeksville)
Try to teach her SC ( Like trying to teach an old dog new tricks )
Talk to her ( Trust me and don't talk to her about other girls - Here's why -> fori nstance she'll start talkingwhat a b***h Fifi is, what a dead-brained zombie Teresa is, what a dum***s Rudolf is - you get the point.)
Read her poetry ( That would be your biggest success.By the way you have to make the poetry up and make it sound good - girls adore it when men make poetry about them.Yes they love the thought of us having to twist our brains out to think of some lame Romeo & Juliet remake...)
Have lunch with her ( Hm... well there are some factors here.Let's see some women are disgusted how men eat so if you want to eat please do it in the orderly manners and I don't mean going primal with a sharp stick and a boulder and clubbing her...)
Well maybe my best solution is this one ( Go home,make 2 cups of hot tea, get cousy , talk about stuff, kiss,part ... that's what I can think in your situation.)

Hm on rollerblades.
There would be a balance problem and trust me you wouldn't want to fall, it hurts, and when I say hirts I do mean pain.

Dezzick
01-17-2005, 11:33 AM
Umm, anyone got any good tips on how to Get a girlfriend? I'm in need of one right now.

Hawthorne
01-17-2005, 12:25 PM
Deezed.Here is my patented One of a Kind Manual on how to get a girlfriend in a few easy steps.
(WARNING! This text contain words,and other phrases unsuitable for people of young ages,people with bad hearts & all that jazz...)

Step 1: Read and think up a lot of poetry.
Step 2: Put on some good lookin clothes.
Step 3: Remember to shower,put on some deoderant, and some perfume behind your ears and on your neck.
Step 4: When talking to a "normal" girl forget all thing computer-related.
Step 5: Do not use words like "fuck" in the presence of that girl.
Step 6: Remeber to iron your clothes.
Step 7: Please don't go in a uniform...
Step 8: Do not get drunk or high...
Step 9: Don't do sex on the first 5 dates 'cus she'll dump you and move on.
Step 10: Show here that you really want a relationship and not just sex,sex,sex...
Step 11: Take her out on a romantic date
Step 12: Remember to bring the following on the date: Wine or champaigne ( NO YOU CAN'T BRING BEER). A poem devoted to her beauty and to you being her slave. ( NO NOT A SEX SLAVE... FOR NOW) Oh yes don't forget to bring some money if she doesn't like the idea...
Step 14: Try to actually know her, what she likes and so on. ( I skipped 13 'cus I hate that number)
Step 15: If you have a fight always remember that when buying flowers be careful what type of flowers they are -> Each flower means something.Oh and don't forget a card that wrties out " I LOVE YIU".
Step 16: Remember to always dress casualy.If you dress like a cool intelligent hot guy girls will think you are one.
Step 17: Do not necesarilly act like a cool intelligent hot guy, but I advice it during the first 3 to 5 dates.
Step 18: If you have sex be shure you're good, 'cus she'll leave you if you're bad in the bed...
Step 19: Do not forget table manners.Though it may not occur to you there are some things known as spoon, napkin, fork which help you do something else rather than eat like a neanderthol.Oh and never burp infront of a girl.It is very offensive.
Step 20: GET OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER AND GET TO WORK YOU SLACKER!!!
( These are the most essential thing you must know, if you have any more questions ask away :) )

Dezzick
01-17-2005, 1:31 PM
I have decided to point out the flaws in this.

Step 12: Remember to bring the following on the date: Wine or champaigne ( NO YOU CAN'T BRING BEER).I'm to young for alchohol

Step 15: If you have a fight always remember that when buying flowers be careful what type of flowers they are -> Each flower means something.Oh and don't forget a card that wrties out " I LOVE YIU".
All flowers look alike to me.

Step 16: Remember to always dress casualy.If you dress like a cool intelligent hot guy girls will think you are one.I dress casually, but I'm not hot.

Step 19: Do not forget table manners.Though it may not occur to you there are some things known as spoon, napkin, fork which help you do something else rather than eat like a neanderthol.Oh and never burp infront of a girl.It is very offensive.I have heard of those things ;) and I never burp.

TheBB
01-17-2005, 1:47 PM
The best way to get a girl (or boy, for that matter) is probably to get into an environment with like minded people. Worked for me :). I advise you to shove most of the advices down the toilet (except for a few crucial ones). It can work well on a short term basis if you're not yourselves, but sooner or later you two end up on the same level. I hope you know what I mean. If you can get a girl that takes you for you, then that's far better than anything else.

The few crucial advices more or less boils down to:
- Be clean
- Be yourselves (if "yourself" is unclean, I suggest you fix that ;))
- Have two or three conversation topics prepared... silence is usually embarassing, but very strong when it's not (in other words: know when to stop talking)

Dark_Soul74
01-17-2005, 1:50 PM
Hotorn, I really am obliged to believe you are hopelessly single. :O

Valjean
01-17-2005, 2:13 PM
Hotorn, I really am obliged to believe you are hopelessly single. :O
I might have to agree. I mean, there are very few girls left who will let you read poetry at them and not get embarassed/think it's too cheesy.

zemagicmaster
01-17-2005, 3:15 PM
so true man... if u have the cash find out what music she likes and get her that, everytime she listens to it guess wh comes to mind... the big football hunk who she really likes and not u the lil abused kid. girls are good, but have it on ur terms. if u both like each other, make sure she likes u as in get ur best friend to get a friend to ask ur gfs best friend if she likes anyone or is she single. make sure hes hottttt. im a guy btw, so ask a girl to make sure ur best friends friend is hot. good luck have fun man! sry my starcraft gaming is coming to mind. NEVER mention computers unless she likes em! if u do, she wont listen to u so dont ask her any questions after cos she WILL make up an answer

Dezzick
01-17-2005, 3:40 PM
Okay, someone bring in the typo squad!

Hawthorne
01-18-2005, 7:31 AM
By the way Dark I was only kidding about those lame-ass steps.
(That's the effect of having too much free time and nothing to do - your mind goes insane... good thing I haven't got one.)

peace_machine
01-18-2005, 7:53 AM
I might have to agree. I mean, there are very few girls left who will let you read poetry at them and not get embarassed/think it's too cheesy.
Hey whats wrong with sounding cheesy? It works for me... the only down side is everyone views me as adorable/cute and my gf thinks I am gay...

Oh damn >.<

Hmm... this dating thing sounds like a good idea though. We (gf and I) havn't been out yet, just playing in her room...

<.<

She has an Xbox....

>.>

The only piece of advice I have is dont go anywhere suggested my people you dont even know over the internet and never listen to their advice, Especially if they contradict themselves in the same sentance.

L2_1989
01-18-2005, 8:16 AM
Yeah, that's right, peace_machine. Hell, alot of people want me to go after a girl in my school and I got so paranoid and mad that I told them to screw off.

hammocksleeper
01-18-2005, 1:03 PM
Drive-in movie.
Secluded woodsy spot.
No conversation necessary.

Ahh, the everpresent question: what to do? Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you (no pun intended :P), but I don't even have a car :\ I'll be watching this thread for ideas...Dude, if your mom lets you take out the boat do that...or better yet go explore coves and stuff in a dinghy, just you and her...it'd be nice :)

Draix
01-18-2005, 2:03 PM
Ugh you people act like it is so hard to find a girl. Believe me the one thing a chick wants is to be with someone who she feels she can have fun with so you gotta have a sense of humor or you will go nowhere, and if you dont have one get one. No chcik is alike but even so a sense of humor goes a long way. And dont be to mushy, believe me it is a BAD idea.

LinkTheGameFreak
01-18-2005, 4:56 PM
One word: roofies.

Actually, just take her to the movies and make out in the back. It's not so hard, really. If she's as willing as you make her out to be (no pun intended) then she'll have no problems with you not taking her to a steak dinner.

I am a teenager, and if there is one thing I have learned out of my limited experience in dating it is that if you think you love a woman, do not go after her. Forget about her. Not that love is too mature a concept for teenagers to handle, but that it is just too fucking hurtful to you and the girl you're after to be obsessed with her.

P.S.: Sex is one of the few joys of living. If you hold back until marriage, you're cutting yourself down in your prime. Do it as often as possible with as many beautiful women as possible. At the end of your life, you will regret nothing.
I guess I agree to a point with what the above guy said, but if I were in your spot (which has happened many times...) my advice is to not do anything stupid... I did, and I regret it every other day ending in "y"... I'm 18 and still a virgin and proud as hell... (I'm saving myself until I get married or raped...)

I still stick with my advice though, wait, man - that's the best thing if you don't know her very well. In my experience, any girl who has already fucked some guy who is not you often becomes a whore...

Just wait until you are married...

-Link (New conscience...)

KillJoY
01-18-2005, 8:26 PM
All of my advice is crappy. So I'm not going to say anything on my behafe. But my best friend is a lady killer. Usually he's evil. Like today he speared me with a pointed piece of wood. Heh good times. But thats not the point. Whenever he's around his GF he's polite, he listens, and some other stuff. Usually when hes around his girl she brings a large amount of girls. Me and my other friend would grab basket balls, footballs, soccer balls, and even rocks and throw the gathered things at the possy to make them leave my friend alone while he's taking. But mostly because its fun to throw stuff at people. So immature I understand. :P

bluemicrobyte
01-18-2005, 11:19 PM
Deezed.Here is my patented One of a Kind Manual on how to get a girlfriend in a few easy steps.
(WARNING! This text contain words,and other phrases unsuitable for people of young ages,people with bad hearts & all that jazz...)

Step 1: Read and think up a lot of poetry.
Step 2: Put on some good lookin clothes.
Step 3: Remember to shower,put on some deoderant, and some perfume behind your ears and on your neck.
Step 4: When talking to a "normal" girl forget all thing computer-related.
Step 5: Do not use words like "fuck" in the presence of that girl.
Step 6: Remeber to iron your clothes.
Step 7: Please don't go in a uniform...
Step 8: Do not get drunk or high...
Step 9: Don't do sex on the first 5 dates 'cus she'll dump you and move on.
Step 10: Show here that you really want a relationship and not just sex,sex,sex...
Step 11: Take her out on a romantic date
Step 12: Remember to bring the following on the date: Wine or champaigne ( NO YOU CAN'T BRING BEER). A poem devoted to her beauty and to you being her slave. ( NO NOT A SEX SLAVE... FOR NOW) Oh yes don't forget to bring some money if she doesn't like the idea...
Step 14: Try to actually know her, what she likes and so on. ( I skipped 13 'cus I hate that number)
Step 15: If you have a fight always remember that when buying flowers be careful what type of flowers they are -> Each flower means something.Oh and don't forget a card that wrties out " I LOVE YIU".
Step 16: Remember to always dress casualy.If you dress like a cool intelligent hot guy girls will think you are one.
Step 17: Do not necesarilly act like a cool intelligent hot guy, but I advice it during the first 3 to 5 dates.
Step 18: If you have sex be shure you're good, 'cus she'll leave you if you're bad in the bed...
Step 19: Do not forget table manners.Though it may not occur to you there are some things known as spoon, napkin, fork which help you do something else rather than eat like a neanderthol.Oh and never burp infront of a girl.It is very offensive.
Step 20: GET OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER AND GET TO WORK YOU SLACKER!!!
( These are the most essential thing you must know, if you have any more questions ask away :) )
I was fine until I read step 20....

hammocksleeper
01-18-2005, 11:57 PM
Deezed.Here is my patented One of a Kind Manual on how to get a girlfriend in a few easy steps.
(WARNING! This text contain words,and other phrases unsuitable for people of young ages,people with bad hearts & all that jazz...)
Haha those are good. You make me smile. But you forgot rule 1: ask the girl out ;)

LordAhriman
01-19-2005, 1:22 AM
Ugh you people act like it is so hard to find a girl.
NEWS FLASH: It is. In terms of sport dating, as it were, it is indeed difficult to get a woman - and not just some fat goth chick who will give you head, but a woman you actually, to some extent, respect. In high school especially, a lack of reciprocal respect between two people in a relationship means that someone comes away from it fucked up.

By the way, you guys have ridiculous perceptions of women. Who's betting that whoever said you should read and memorize poetry has never been on a date? Be yourself; it's a rather ambiguous piece of advice, but it's true. Being a computer nerd, I figured for a long time that women would never like me if I didn't try to be a 'normal guy', but guess what: I learned that women are human beings too. They are as different from each other as any other male is to you, and what one likes another won't. It's a damn tough thing to accept, but relationships are hit or miss: you might be totally into a girl, but so long as the feeling isn't mutual, it's as good as over. If, on a date, especially a first date, you try to act different from who you really are, less like a computer nerd and more like the kind of guy you think gets women, you are dumb.

And please, don't read any fucking poetry. Please. I'm begging you. What works for Siddhartha isn't going to work in real life.

Kazansky
01-19-2005, 2:57 AM
What I do is I go to the shttiest movie in the entire theatre so that we are sure nobody will be there. Then we can make out inside. Been doin it for three months. It works, I assure you.

Draix
01-19-2005, 3:47 AM
NEWS FLASH: It is. In terms of sport dating, as it were, it is indeed difficult to get a woman - and not just some fat goth chick who will give you head, but a woman you actually, to some extent, respect. In high school especially, a lack of reciprocal respect between two people in a relationship means that someone comes away from it fucked up.If i was talking about getting head from a fat goth chick I would have said "ugh It's not hard to get head from a fat goth chick" The problem is people today are to afraid to talk to chicks or get there numbers. In my opinion it is better to ask five chicks for there number and only get 2, then not to ask any at all, do you agree?

Kazansky
01-19-2005, 4:12 AM
I'm not afraid to talk to chicks. My last prom date invite was a disaster though. I said to her, "You-- get over here. Us juniors are having a prom date and I want you to be my date. Well? I'm waiting for an answer... ... ... C'MON!!!" She gave me her number and ran like hell. (She had a reputation of being a flirty bitch, so I decided to treat her like one.) Why do you think she ran?

LordAhriman
01-19-2005, 4:15 AM
No, because I'm a hopeless romantic and a perfectionist. How about that? Of course you're right, it's not hard to go fishing for women and attract the interest of a few, but eventually it's about whether the person you really want wants you back, not what a few random chicks or even women in general think of you.

Kazansky - obviously her deep sexual attraction to you made it difficult for her to even speak. Score, buddy.

LinkTheGameFreak
01-19-2005, 9:53 AM
i stick with my original advice, but in addition, if you write poetry, read her a poem, if you play guitar, play her a song, if you sing, sing her something, if you play warcraft... you're screwed...

Draix
01-19-2005, 12:56 PM
Of corse I'm talking about girls you like not just fishing. I hate women I cannot talk to or have fun with. But hey we gotta keep our options open eh? Plus you will never find your love if you dont look, and one way of looking is asking chicks on a date. Sure you are gonna get a few horrably ignorant chicks but I believe if I keep looking ill find someone I really like.

KillJoY
01-19-2005, 8:59 PM
And what about those who have friends who will tease you for the rest of your life if you ask them out? Or you have friends who will tease you? Stay away from situations like that because my frind and I are doing it to my friend and he hates it. He wishes he had never talked to that girl. (I have an undying grudge with her and hate her with all my rage. In other words I would like to gut her with a rusty and dull letter opener.) Everyone thinks I like her and if this were true I would have hooked up with her already. It burns me just to think about it.

Spdstr
01-19-2005, 10:53 PM
Hrm... Didn't read EVERY post, so I'm not sure if you went yet or not. IGNORE the talking part that EVERYONE talks about. I think you're like me and run out of topics too fast when talking to someone, and the last thing you want to do is have 60 seconds of utter killing silence that makes you BOTH uncomfortable. Usually a girl will be good at making conversation, but the 2 that I'm interested in are pretty quiet when it comes to making conversations, EVEN on the internet. I'd suggest just trying to do something different. Some girls like it, others don't, but if she does then you know you've got an outgoing girlfriend, which is usually good. Try taking her into Spencor's or something at the mall and just look at wierd stuff that you think would make her laugh, of course DON'T OFFEND HER if you know something would do that. (IE joking around with "lightsabers" as Chapelle would say). After that take her to fye or The Wall (Not sure if fye took over The Wall, but oh well...) if she's into music that's the best spot, movies as well. Be sure to have deep pockets in case she sees something that she likes, NEVER make her buy her own stuff even if she says "no, I'll pay for it." It'll make them truly feel supported and almost garuntees another date. You can then take the "long way" back to her house and talk to her on the way home and then dropping her off with just a hug or a kiss, no tongue of course ;).

This is a decent date, there's of course something better.

Member,
~ Spdstr

Mattimeo
01-19-2005, 11:39 PM
I feel somehow obligated to give my little tid-bit of advice on this. Wing it. Just wing it. Don't look for the answer in a book, a magazine, or online, just make it up as you go along. I mean you want this girl to like you right? Well if you're doing what sonebody else told you to do then you aren't being YOU. Just do whatever you think you should do. Althought listening to me would be doing what someone else says, but that's just a paradox you'll hafta live with.

~Don't Panic

TheBB
01-20-2005, 10:45 AM
I feel somehow obligated to give my little tid-bit of advice on this. Wing it. Just wing it. Don't look for the answer in a book, a magazine, or online, just make it up as you go along. I mean you want this girl to like you right? Well if you're doing what sonebody else told you to do then you aren't being YOU. Just do whatever you think you should do. Althought listening to me would be doing what someone else says, but that's just a paradox you'll hafta live with.

~Don't Panic

This is the best advice in this thread.

GrassDragon
01-20-2005, 11:29 AM
I feel somehow obligated to give my little tid-bit of advice on this. Wing it. Just wing it. Don't look for the answer in a book, a magazine, or online, just make it up as you go along. I mean you want this girl to like you right? Well if you're doing what sonebody else told you to do then you aren't being YOU. Just do whatever you think you should do. Althought listening to me would be doing what someone else says, but that's just a paradox you'll hafta live with.

~Don't Panic
Agreed; this girl is dating you, not the Warboards Community, right?

Cygnus
01-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Ah, the problem of asking people on the interenet. Just go do something and stop wasting you time asking for advice! :P

CODEZERO
01-21-2005, 12:07 AM
hmmm i'd asked some friends that are girls to help me out......it seemed to work well i suppose.....until i found out she had bf.....and well i didn't do anything about it i just let it slip past....

singo
01-21-2005, 7:53 PM
Go to a pub neways, ive been drinkin since 14 and its never been a problem - except 2 my liver

and----[deleted due to the fact encouraging minors to drink is illegal despite the fact that im technicalay a miner myslef (17) YARRR!]

in case you hadnt guessed

<inbreated post>

Nahotnoj
01-21-2005, 11:51 PM
I feel somehow obligated to give my little tid-bit of advice on this. Wing it. Just wing it. Don't look for the answer in a book, a magazine, or online, just make it up as you go along. I mean you want this girl to like you right? Well if you're doing what sonebody else told you to do then you aren't being YOU. Just do whatever you think you should do. Althought listening to me would be doing what someone else says, but that's just a paradox you'll hafta live with.

~Don't Panic best damn advice i've seen.

Ah, the problem of asking people on the interenet. Just go do something and stop wasting you time asking for advice! :P yup. even I learned, although it took some time.

note: sorry if this post isn't really helpful or contributive in any way, i just felt i should post it.

xodkrm
01-23-2005, 12:03 AM
I hate it when you've got nothing to talk about....and then it starts to get uncomfortable.

Subjukator
01-23-2005, 1:47 PM
thx to everyone who posted and gave their advice.

and i agree with two parts about hitching it with a girl. being part of common interest group is a major boost since then if you ever decide to "make that move" you both have common interests or at least a place where you two can see each other on a regular basis.

the other part is possessing a sense of humour. ive been cracking jokes left and right and it's been nothing but... "money in the bank." heh

also, go get her AIM. this works for me if your just getting to know the girl. ask for her number online after you two have had some interesting convos, usually one or two.

but there's no set formula in trying to make it with a lady. strike up a conversation and see where it goes. :p sometimes, all that needs to be done is to just ask.

:)

next stop, cafe!