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xenomackster
12-31-2004, 11:22 PM
I need some help. I always lose. I have only come close to winning once and that was against the zerg. My opponent (withteraan) always techs up and builds 12 wraiths (will attack weak expanded bases with his first 3 wraiths). then it is 12 BC and then i'm done. I try a quick infantry rush (his bunkers crush it). If I try to siege tank, it is too slow and he has a couple of wraiths and I have not pumped up air defense enough. We always play lost temple (around 15 games or so total). I am always terran (want to learn one race at a time). Does anyone have any replays that show a build order for a quick rush? He has little or no defense, but his SCVs always gang up on my few marines-- if he has no bunkers-- even then i am too slow (even with 3 barracks to wipe him out). Any help would be appreciated. If an infantry rush can not be done on Lost temple, then what is a good rush against a terran airlover (if i don't attack at first, he always assumes I am going for the air tech trees). I want to be able to rush and still have alternate backup plans if the rush fails.

Ragnarox
12-31-2004, 11:41 PM
Ok, if you have the resources, speed, exploration capacity and two barracks, you can always do the cheesy bunker rush. On LT, just find your enemy as quickly as possible while you mine resources and get a supply depot and a pair of barracks up as fast as you can.(Warning: This requires a high amount of multi-tasking skills). When you find his base, make sure you have two barracks ready and pump out four marines, in the mean time, have your SCV build a bunker in your opponents base (If your both terran its hard for them to notice) and have the four marines start hammering your opponents command center or SCV's. When they gang up on you with the SCV's, send your marines into the bunker and have the SCV repair it if it gets damaged by enemies.

In the meantime, climb the tech-tree and pump out at least four wraiths, with cloak if possible and send it to your enemies base. Once this happens, your enemy is toast because they can't lift off far away buildings AND if they have settlements, you can pick them off easily.

How do I know this works? Somebody did it to me on LT. Then on a re-match I did it to them. I do not have a saved replay for you because I didn't know about the replay option for a while. I hope it works, no promises though.

Schwitzer
01-01-2005, 4:00 AM
Can you please post a replay, xenomackster? If I can see exactly what he does I can tell you how to break his build.

Cpt.Chronic
01-03-2005, 1:57 PM
In TvT if he's going wraiths you should go for goliath drop. Just don't lose your dropship to wraiths.

ReD_ICE
01-06-2005, 11:36 PM
defintely goliaths. even though they cant fly as wraiths can, they can definitely do a lot more damage to air units than wraiths can to ground units. however you might consider this...

1) If your opponent does not block his entrance (with barrack + supply), then u should not have to build dropships, because once u lose ur dropships, 400 minerals and 200 gas is wasted too, and ur plans are ruined. When you have made sure that he has not block the entrance, and has little or no tanks in his base, go straight in from the front door with a squad of golis. (NOTE: you should build a comsat just incase he goes stealth.)

2) If your opponent DOES block his entrance, then try playing fire with fire. Build wraiths also, and try valkyries. There's one thing you definitely MUST build if ur playing this way. GET SCIENCE VESSEL. When you have 2 cloaked oppossing teams, your gonna want to see ur enemy first. PLUS, u can do defensive matrix on urself ^^. (NOTE: You need to do the same thing to ur friend, harrass. If your getting a 2nd expansion, then ur gonna need turrets. If your opponent gets 2nd expansion, he's gonna get turrets too. So, what do you do? When you see that ur friend has 2nd expansion, start building tanks, and 1-2 dropships. Destroy the turret with the tanks while protecting ur tanks with ur wraiths, which by now u should have more than a group. once u have his 2nd expansion owned, u are already ahead of him in the game.)

this is about it. FINALLY, remember to control ur minerals well. always use them when u have them. hope it helps~!