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robzombie
12-16-2004, 7:22 AM
hu orcs commander wat hero should i take as a third hero in solo games i take the shadow hunter then the tauren (neutrol heros are options ) and i am sad that people think that orcs are bad and i think they are best correct me if i am wrong

ganglyone
12-16-2004, 5:29 PM
I think it almost completely depends on what you are lacking and how your battle is going. By then you should have a very good idea about what your opponent is doing.

Louay
12-16-2004, 5:34 PM
yesss Ganglyone is a Smartone... :) N e ways as Ganglyone said if they go air.. FS.. if they go ground BM b/c of his AWSOME windwalk skill... as for neutral heros get FIRELORD! the lava spawn is veryyyy powerful and works really well if u kno how to micro :)

~Louay

Prozerran
12-17-2004, 7:04 PM
Actually, I tend to believe your third hero should be the hero that culminates what your other two heroes are doing into a cohesive strategy. For instance, take the UD v Hu match-up. Hero-nuking is a popular tactic, and the UD are best at doing it (Humans are a very close 2nd). The first hero needs to be able to harass and survive, the second hero needs to support, and the third needs to round it all out. The Death Knight and the Dreadlord are better at harassing early, so let's think long-term to their usage. The Death Knight has a whimpie ultimate but great harassment and the Dreadlord has the best ultimate in the game (personal opinion).

If I choose the Death Knight, I'll get strong harassment early on and he will add to my hero nuking tactic with his death coil ability. If I choose the Dreadlord, he won't do much for hero nuking, but he'll have a crazy good ultimate. If I go for the Dreadlord, he will most likely be my only hero until he reaches level 6 (soloing heroes earns you more experience in case anyone didn't know - almost like upkeep in some ways). Then I may get a second hero if I need it.

If I choose the Death Knight, I'm going to need a second hero to back him up, and the Lich is best supporting role for the tactic. His Frost Nova combined with Death Coil will take a hero's life total down by almost half. The trick is to get up to Tier 3 fast to get the Crypt Lord, who has impale and can stun the enemy hero with AoE and can also serve as a strong meat shield against enemy forces. Taking that into consideration, you have a reason for selecting a third hero, and it is obvious.

So, the question to ask yourself is, "Do I need a third hero and why?" If you can answer that question, you'll be able to make the selection on your own. Then, post your ideas on what you decided, why you made the decision, and then others can help you from there with comments and suggestions.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but maybe it helps to get you to think about it for yourself and come back with an idea of your own. Good luck testing it out and let us know when you have something.

robzombie
12-18-2004, 6:20 AM
thank u guys i am confused wat third hero to take the dark ranger or da naga sea witch both will help my troops the darkranger can cost sielence which will help me in making the big bad vodoo after killing units which challenge spells (druid o the talon etc)) also charm is better than the tarnado while the naga has the frost arrow which is very useful to kill the enemy more easily and has th...i dont know which make 250 damage to 4 units i am confused i need suggestion by da way this is my combination i mange to surrvive using my grunts and troll untill i can replace them
shadow hunter 2 tc 3 still confused
5 troll 1kodobeast 4raiders 3 shaman 2 doctors 2 magical tauren and 6 tauren
if u have any comint on the troops or u think that i should change my units plz say and thanx

ganglyone
12-20-2004, 2:21 PM
thank u guys i am confused wat third hero to take the dark ranger or da naga sea witch both will help my troops the darkranger can cost sielence which will help me in making the big bad vodoo after killing units which challenge spells (druid o the talon etc)) also charm is better than the tarnado while the naga has the frost arrow which is very useful to kill the enemy more easily and has th...i dont know which make 250 damage to 4 units i am confused i need suggestion by da way this is my combination i mange to surrvive using my grunts and troll untill i can replace them
shadow hunter 2 tc 3 still confused
5 troll 1kodobeast 4raiders 3 shaman 2 doctors 2 magical tauren and 6 tauren
if u have any comint on the troops or u think that i should change my units plz say and thanx
a 3rd hero for this army would have to be a fs with far sight and chain lightning. At this point in the game wolves would probably not make much of a difference.

that army makeup sounds good. but I don't play much 1v1.

with a sea witch and a dr I would think u would need meat hero, but that's prolly too late in the game for a low hp hero. maybe a pit lord with rain of fire. maybe a tinker for the factory... dunno

Darkeggy
12-20-2004, 6:07 PM
That army seems kinda bulky and hard to build up. You probably should go 12 grunt, 4 doc, 4 shamen, and some zerkers, with the Farseer. You can easily pull this off quickly if you know what you're doing. If this initial rush isn't enough, i would expand to include some bats, kodos, and a few more grunts and casters. Second hero Shadowhunter. A third hero is really a waste of resources unless the game drags out long enough for the third one to be leveled enough. I dunno, you could maybe replace the Farseer and his wolves for a Firelord and his lavaspawns, but far sight is useful...it's your choice really. I'm not sure this is a viable strategy ever since I stopped playing solo. : /

cole
01-01-2005, 2:11 PM
Orc is probaly the strongest race in the current patch. Usually the strongets orc hero combination is either fs/tc/sh (Fs being your first hero, tc being your second hero at tier 2,etc) or fs/naga/fl. With fs,tc, sh you just abuse you should focus on spamming chain wave while summoning wolves of course. fs/tc/sh is more of a "mass aoe" strat that rapes units like ghouls,fiends,rifles,archers,hunts,etc. Fs/tc/sh is more of a hero nuke strat thats also pretty good at dealing with units like gargs,hipps,hipp riders,wyverns,etc. Chain+forked is extremely deadly vs air units like that and still pretty effective vs ground units. Frost arrow+incinerate+forked/chain rapes alot of intel heros and even tank heros. The only hero that can really counter this effectively is the dk due to the speed bonus from unholy aura.

Demon_Child
01-01-2005, 3:29 PM
Hahaha After the past couple of patches the FS and NSW combo is still a tough one to beat. It brings back old memories from when everyone kept complaining about the TC being broken when all that needed nerfing was Shockwave, especially when it had no damage cap to it.

When I play Orc usually I just went for FS (with Wolves) and SH (with Serpent Wards) and then teched to fast demos or perhaps a little OT'ing just for fun.

Lordshadowbane
01-01-2005, 5:15 PM
Now its FS+FL -_-. A question to ask yourself is should you get a third hero? UD pretty much should but all the other races dont really need one especially in solo. Leveling up three heroes (sharing exp slows hero levels a lot) and microing them is a pain. So I'd say UD and HU should be the only ones going tri hero in solo. But if you really want one go DR, NSW, or FL.

cole
01-01-2005, 6:26 PM
Fs fl isnt as bad as fs/naga or fs/tc. Lava spawns and and incinerate is nice but if you can surround and ff the lava spawn as soon as he summons it you wont have to worry about those to much.

LiE.FRISS
01-29-2005, 5:19 PM
Get a Panda! LOL I've newer tried him(as third hero) but drunken haze could help your army to stay alive or to hunt down wounded units. Give him boots of speed & periapt of vitality so he will survive much longer.

Lordshadowbane
01-31-2005, 9:56 PM
Panda is more of a secondary hero but he works as a third. He does wonders as a third sometimes...

Skydragonace
02-04-2005, 10:29 AM
for orcs. the best hero combination is blade master, tauren, and fire lord from tavern. They all support eachother