New Races?

[deadstalker]

Should there be new races in SCII ( If it ever comes out). casue the way the game is, its kind of balanced. Maybe some new units would be good though. If there are new races you can be screwed over and we will have to download another 10 patches before it ever becomes good. The new race would also screw up the whole story behind starcraft.

But if there is a new race, i think it shouldent have anything to do with any of the other races. I heard some people talking about the UED being a new terran race, and i think that would be stupid to have 2 terrans with different abilities.

[Shinigami]

If Blizzard doesn't take a chance and impliment some radical new races, units, etc. then StarCraft is guaranteed to suck. I don't want another expansion where new units and upgrades are added, I want a very different storyline, believable races and a new cast of characters and units.

[Fenix-MSG]

Should there be new races in SCII ( If it ever comes out). casue the way the game is, its kind of balanced. Maybe some new units would be good though. If there are new races you can be screwed over and we will have to download another 10 patches before it ever becomes good. The new race would also screw up the whole story behind starcraft.

But if there is a new race, i think it shouldent have anything to do with any of the other races. I heard some people talking about the UED being a new terran race, and i think that would be stupid to have 2 terrans with different abilities.

No, No, No, No they are not both terrans. The confederacy and the Sons Of Korhal, the Dominion, they are all Terrans. The UED is from Earth, they are humans or earthlings or anything close to that, but not Terrans. THey have been seperated years and years, and have come up with different technologies.

Now, since that is done, yhes there should be a new race. Either the Hybrids, but i would like the Xel' Naga.

[Naitguolf]

If they dont add more races, then... why to make a new SC? They should make a new SC with new ideas, not using the old ones. Of course we will like or dislike the new ideas, but should be here. We can always play original SC 1...

[Valjean]

Hybrids and UED is what I want. =P

[FeceMan]

What I think would be pretty cool, aside from a new race, would be different factions for each race. They would play similarly, but would have specific units per faction along with advantages/disadvantages, a little like the different generals in C&C:G.

Personally, I really want an amphibious/reptillian race 'cause I think that would be cool. Not exactly sure how it would work, but we'll just say that it would. Maybe they would be technologically inferior, but have advantages in the forms of combat...or something.

Eh, I'm tired and just speculating.

[Killphill]

Personnaly I like the idea of the UED being a different "race"
So there could be:
Hybrids
UED (Terrans)
Xel-Naga
Sons of Korhal (Terrans)
Zerg
Protoss
Machines

It may kill the game but it would be interesting to see all the new units.
And mabye a Machine race of some sort, lets say they came out of nowhere just like the Zerg.
Seven Races would be pretty sweet, not to mention the old ones would have new stuff.
It would become more Tactical and there wouldnt be huge armies, well only ones with like 120 suply maxes mabye.
And they should have heros like Warcraft 3.
If only Blizzard caught up with my ideas...
Well thats what i think.

[dark2025]

They added 2 and a half races to WC3 and its expansion the Frozen Throne, why shouldn't they add new races to starcraft 2? The hybrids are a HIGH possibility, but I would really like the Xel'Nagas (although it sounds like they should be really powerful, so I'm not sure if it will tip the balance of the game or something).
BTW, Killphill, a machine race is pretty cool... maybe the Xel'Nagas created some advanced machinery but they soon became so intelligent they began to mass produce themselves and stuff?

[Killphill]

That's what I was thinking...
Mabye the Xel-Naga realy suck at what they do. The Machines would be Zerg only the complete opisite (Machines not Organic).
I'm not sure what kind of tech tree the Hybrids would have though. I imagined them kinda like a bunch of lurkers...
The Protoss would probely be more Dark Templar then Conclave now. The UED and Dominion, well I think one should be more of an "Elite" army and one a more massive low morale people. This could suit either.
The Zerg on the other hand, well if I was Kerrigan i'd probely have know clue that this is all this is possible. I think if she had our point of view she would double her numbers and take out the Protoss and the Dominion as fast as she could, but that storyline would suck, unless they were backed into a Helms Deep like scenairo they could be save by the Xel-Naga or something.
That could easily turn into the biggest battle Starcraft has ever seen, if this happend the Hybrids might show up and either help or destroy the Zerg. This also adds the possibility that the Machines (or some other race) are on the same side as the Xel-Naga. As I imagined the Hybrids (Lurkers with glowing eyes) they wouldnt stand a chance against the Xel-Nage and their ally, possibly like a dog to the Xel-Naga. What if the Xel-Naga just want to Eradicate the Zerg and Protoss, clean up their mistakes? Don't forget Zearatul and Raynor arnt even with the Protoss and Terrans. They could come with the UED and save them (leaving the Hybrids, Zerg and Xel-Naga+Machines to ripped each other apart.
Now the Alliances stand like this if I lost you:
Terrans (UED+Dominion) and Protoss
Hybrids with Duran
Kerrigan and her raging swarm.
Xel-Naga and Machines (or some other race)

The big questions are: "Who are the Hybrids with?"
If they are with the Zerg do they have flight capablities?
If they do they could take down the Xel-Naga World Ships if they dont the may be able to take out some of the "dog race". Unless the Xel-Naga don't do a planatary bombardment or somthing cheap like that. Mabye there is only like mabye a doesnt of them left?
Another question is: "Who will win, Zerg or Xel-Naga?
I think it all depends on who the Hybrids are with and can they destroy the Xel-Naga without being blown to shreds.

I'm going on and on so keep reading.

Do the Zerg have to be dead by the end of Starcraft 2? I hope not. Kerrigan can always escape.. but she wouldnt get far, ships with warp drives are faster the birds in space.
I hope it doesnt end by pionic energy or somthing like that I think that all the races shoould battle It out, more action and it would make a good cinematic.
More races=more fun in multiplayer
Thats my oppinion, I think I got off topic a little...

[Geckat]

You know that Protoss-Zerg Hybrid in the secret mission in Brood War? That's gonna be the main baddie. It's gonna be crazy! I already made a mission on it. Anyone want it?

[dark2025]

A baddie? Really? Hmm... how can you be so sure they're going to be the villains?

[cpt.beefhart]

Personnaly I like the idea of the UED being a different "race"
So there could be:
Hybrids
UED (Terrans)
Xel-Naga
Sons of Korhal (Terrans)
Zerg
Protoss
Machines

It may kill the game but it would be interesting to see all the new units.
And mabye a Machine race of some sort, lets say they came out of nowhere just like the Zerg.
Seven Races would be pretty sweet, not to mention the old ones would have new stuff.
It would become more Tactical and there wouldnt be huge armies, well only ones with like 120 suply maxes mabye.
And they should have heros like Warcraft 3.
If only Blizzard caught up with my ideas...
Well thats what i think.
y couldn't the Naga use machines exculsively

[TheAznSensation]

I heard that they have a new race called Asians who are supposed to be ultrapowerfull. Apparantly the "Asians" have a unit that can burrow, is permanently cloacked, shielded, selfhealing, detector, can fly, attacks both land and air with splash damage, 15 ranged attack, and has psi storm, lockdown, emp shockwave, plague, and mind control.

[cpt.beefhart]

I heard that they have a new race called Asians who are supposed to be ultrapowerfull. Apparantly the "Asians" have a unit that can burrow, is permanently cloacked, shielded, selfhealing, detector, can fly, attacks both land and air with splash damage, 15 ranged attack, and has psi storm, lockdown, emp shockwave, plague, and mind control.

cool :bigsmile: probably from the mythical world of korea

[ali-p]

Yes, there needs to be new races
I like to see Xel'naga and Hybrids as new races.

[ZergTyrant]

Korea eh??

well there NEEDS to be new units/races in this game and there needs to be a continued story line or sumthin to that extent..

Wut happened to raynor...or zeretul..or artanis????? i want to know!!!!!!!!

o i've seen a couple of screenshots with raynor in them so hes most deffinetly in the next game...if u trust early screenshots.

[TheAznSensation]

My uncle works for Blizzard North and he showed me a preview of Starcraft 2. There is a new race called the "Niggers". This race features dark skinned units who possess superior athletic abilities, big asses, wide noses, big lips, and cornrows. Instead of using resources such as Minerals and Vespene Gas, they harvest cotton, watermelons, and are supplied by fried chicken depots. Their command center is a giant Ghetto. They build units in state prisons and KFC restaurants. They are limited by their overall laziness, poor mental capabilities, and intracultural violence. Their units include the single mother with 17 offspring, the high school dropout, the convenience store robber, the basketball player, the drug dealer, and the parole violator. Their powers include emitting a foul odor which demoralizes the enemy, superior knifing abilities, blasting rap music, raping white women, and running from the police. Their heroes are: Rick James, Snoop Dogg, Charlie Murphy, Clayton Bigsby, Allen Iverson. Instead of siege tanks they have Escalades with hydraulics mode upgrade. The best way to defeat them is by hiding their food stamps under their work boots.

[Ghost_Assasain]

Seriously Dude thats the 2nd time you posted it.

I would like to see the Hybrids come in but i don't think that the Xel'Naga(Anyone else think they got the Naga in War3 from this name?) wouldn't really be a good playable race. I mean they are great with the Back ground of Starcraft maybe some mention of the Xel'Naga Backing Duran and creating the Hybrids, But there wouldn't be enough numbers of them for it to Beleivably be put as a playable race. Unless they have had enough "reproducing' or Engineering to Replensih there numbers after the Zerg ravaged them.

[Spartan-II]

As I have stated SO many times before, the UED as a race would be REDUNDANT, and MORONIC.

Let's look at the facts shall we:

Since the UED has been spying on the Terrans in the K sector for years, they would know about all their technology, and thus implement it into their own military.

Starcraft is about originality, not altering 2 or 3 things about a race and then calling it something else. Personally, I don't want Starcraft to turn into AoE or one of those old RTS games.

These are only some of the many reasons why the UED should NOT be a race..

[Dwimmerlaik]

Which is why I think that their should be only the following races:
Terrans (Dominion and UED)
Protoss
Zerg
Hybrids, slave race of the Xel' Naga*
Machines/ Borg like thing... ...or some other creation of the Xel' Naga

*I think that the 'higher power' Duran is working for should be the Xel' Naga, and that the Hybrids should be there slaves, and finally acomplished master race*
I'm going to expand on my idea later... ...but what do you think?

[Tenebrae]

Yes, the Abyss (My Race) should be in SCII :P

[theblueknight]

the only real problem with bringing in any new race taht isnt xel'naga/hyrbrid is that they werent there before, so why bring them in now. if all of a sudden the Klatuumar spieces comes in out of nowhere what are they gonna put into the game besides new units and strategies. the best way that they could bring in a new race would be to start over with a new story line. the one they have now wouldnt do much good in bringing in a new race. most of where the zerg, terrans and protoss has been pretty thoroughly explored, mapped and settled. unless kerrigan goes joyriding in an overlord and finds some new corner of space to mess up, new races arent such a good idea per se.

[Tenebrae]

the only real problem with bringing in any new race taht isnt xel'naga/hyrbrid is that they werent there before, so why bring them in now. if all of a sudden the Klatuumar spieces comes in out of nowhere what are they gonna put into the game besides new units and strategies. the best way that they could bring in a new race would be to start over with a new story line. the one they have now wouldnt do much good in bringing in a new race. most of where the zerg, terrans and protoss has been pretty thoroughly explored, mapped and settled. unless kerrigan goes joyriding in an overlord and finds some new corner of space to mess up, new races arent such a good idea per se.
You obviously lack imagination. It would be easy to incorporate another race into the SC storyline... I fit my Abyss race in rather well if I do say so myself...and from what I recall all feedback on it was very good. Told I was very detailed and creative, some whom even wanted to see the race added...but this was quite a few Warboards back :P Some might remember...but I doubt it. Anyway the Abyss were a very different race from the others due to the fact that they came from another dimension tore open by the Xel'Nage... But I had a few different varying stories...but the reason always remained the same, they came to our realm for food.

Anyway, it only takes a little imagination to bring forth a race that no one has seen before... A buddy of mine came up with an entirely mechanical race created by the Terran for labor purposes...however they rebelled. His race ability was having each unit able to self-destruct and cause a bit of damage to anything around them... He too had a relatively well thought out storyline for them...

[Dwimmerlaik]

I always like the idea of a race from another demension, like species 8472 from Star Trek (if any of you know what that is...)...

Uhh, I need to wake up and quit typing at 2 in the morning... ...but I do like, even from the extremely littl descriptions you hav given, your idea for the Abyss... ...I'm goin' to be...

[Tenebrae]

I always like the idea of a race from another demension, like species 8472 from Star Trek (if any of you know what that is...)...

Uhh, I need to wake up and quit typing at 2 in the morning... ...but I do like, even from the extremely littl descriptions you hav given, your idea for the Abyss... ...I'm goin' to be...
Yes, I remember Species 8472, and I loved them...their concept was awesome and I only seen them once heh... The Abyss are similar in the fact of their realm being liquid based...just as Species 8472.


Well, I'll go a little more in depth...

The Abyss come from a realm known as the Void (for lack of a better name)
The Void is a realm composed of only two elements, a liquid like slime that appears like liquid obsidian, black, but clear. The second of these elements is a large rock like plant that branches out in huge vein like structures that all stem from a central "Heart" that lies within the middle of the Void. Both of these elements are organic...the slime as well as the plant like heart.

The Abyss started as a parasite...their liquid latex like forms hunting the slime for others of their own kin. Due to being the only true "living" race within the Void they had to do this, cannibalize. If not for the fact that, when they reproduce, they do so in great numbers, the Abyss would have died out long ago. Over the countless years the ravenous parasites banded together forming active hunting parties, and as more years passed, vast clans who warded over slave feeding supplies. Due to this long existence of "only the strong survive" the Abyss became the perfection of a predator...even in mind they could rival the mightily Xel'Naga due to a simple empathic ability that they held when they were but a lowly parasite... This empathic ability was used to feel if their prey held fear...for if they did not, then obviously their opponent is a decent match for them and perhaps they should go elsewhere for a weaker target. Over time this ability grew into telepathic and empathic abilities...and on occasion even more.

Anyway...their main goal when they find their realm isn't the only one is to gather other sources of food...and the Terrans, Xel'Naga, Zerg, and Protoss all make a very tempting source...and so they attack.

The coolest thing about the Abyss is the fact that they don't use their mouths to devour their prey...their liquid latex like bodies literally merge with the cells of their prey...slowly breaking them down. And due to the empathic abilities...they feel off both their prey's body...and their prey's terror, pain, and agony...
I would have gone in more detail and such but yea...I'm being rushed heh. I might actually submit them as a race some year...even have a pic of what they look like... Even though they are more or less liquid they do have a form and can't shift from it... And before you believe them to be weak and easily destroyed...it's that liquid like form that makes that assumption wrong ;)

[Dwimmerlaik]

I like the idea, exept for one thing... ...there is one way you can gain energy... ...from eating... ...and creating off spring requires energy, so you'd have to use every single bit of energy you have to make off spring, otherwise your race would dwindle away, eating each other, for you also need energy for living, moving, thinking... ...I hope you got what I'm saying, if not I could explain in more detail...

Other than that they seem cool...

[Tenebrae]

I like the idea, exept for one thing... ...there is one way you can gain energy... ...from eating... ...and creating off spring requires energy, so you'd have to use every single bit of energy you have to make off spring, otherwise your race would dwindle away, eating each other, for you also need energy for living, moving, thinking... ...I hope you got what I'm saying, if not I could explain in more detail...

Other than that they seem cool...
I know this...how does it effect my race?

They feast upon their own kin in order to obtain the energy required to live on, and indeed the race would dwindle if not for two facts.

The females are never fed upon and never attacked, unless in self defense, due to the small amount of females that are born. In the beginning they are only used to reproduce...and near the end when the clans are formed it's by these "Queens", every clan is lead by at least one. The reason for this is because the Queens are even more sadistic then the males... When they were but lowly parasites they not only hunted the weak for food...but they hunted the strong to "mate" with. The way in which they mate is no less horrid then the acts of cannibalism, and the pleasure they take from the suffering of their prey. Reproduction for the Abyss is a lot like a virus...the Queen chooses her mate, usually the strongest of her clan and infects him with her own genetic makeup. Her DNA instantly starts to infect the cells of his body, paralyzing him and going to work in reformatting his DNA into a perfect merger of the two "parents", and this is where it gets shady... Somehow these corrupt cells bond together in the host body becoming young Abyss which in turn feed upon their "father's" insides until they are ready to gestae.

The amount of young per mate is undetermined but it has to be vast considering that if it wasn't, eventually a clan would be composed of nothing but young Abyss around an elder queen...and though that could work if they had insect intellect (Intelligence passed on through DNA) Hmm...maybe I would like that idea more...as you can tell my mind shifts on them a good bit.

Anyway the Abyss are immortal...they don't die of natural causes, only if they are slain or "mated" with.

On another note in the sadistic nature of the Queens, when the clans are formed their males are usually controlled quite strictly... If one tries to disobey his Queen or leave and is strong she will infect him before allowing him to escape...if he's not quite that strong to her standards, he'll be devoured.

Basically the Abyss is a horrid race in all aspects...their minds are dark and twisted due to their very nature and the fact that they started out with empathic abilities so they have literally come to enjoy the infliction of pain and fear... They are in every sense of the word Demons manifested into a physical form.

[singo]

I suppose with a huge galaxy out there to play with its not like a new race would be impossible to implement

possibly some sort of humourously powerful empire comes smashing into the galaxy and all the factios get their arses handed to them on a plate until they team up on the invaders


or is that too cheesy?

[Tenebrae]

Anythings possible

[singo]

well...most things

[theblueknight]

the abyss thing is cool, and here is an idea for it. when they consume something, mabye they can "steal" its dna. so say for a tech if u kill a marine and bring the Abyss guy back with teh dna, u can make new units. this is almost too cheesy for an RTS, but something like that. or have an overlord unit that u need to bring near things to steal their dna and whatnot to make new units based on existing ones.

[Tenebrae]

the abyss thing is cool, and here is an idea for it. when they consume something, mabye they can "steal" its dna. so say for a tech if u kill a marine and bring the Abyss guy back with teh dna, u can make new units. this is almost too cheesy for an RTS, but something like that. or have an overlord unit that u need to bring near things to steal their dna and whatnot to make new units based on existing ones.That's a Zerg-like ability that will most likely be implemented slightly in SCII (if it ever comes)

The Decayith (Sorry, forgot I had changed the name. Race: Decayiths Dimension: Abyss) have their own abilities...most revolving around their mental abilities that they have obtained over their evolution.

[theblueknight]

but from what u said so far, it seems like these things are all going to look alike, and what comes to mind when i picture them is if uve ever played kingdom hearts. the first bad guy u fight is called a heartless. its a little black thing that moves in puddles and then comes up and attacks u as some little goblin thing.

[Tenebrae]

but from what u said so far, it seems like these things are all going to look alike, and what comes to mind when i picture them is if uve ever played kingdom hearts. the first bad guy u fight is called a heartless. its a little black thing that moves in puddles and then comes up and attacks u as some little goblin thing.
Nope, like I said, they have a form that they don't shift from...their not free formed like blobs or slimes...though they can slip through small holes and such due to being liquid-like. They have a sort of...well I can't really explain...I would have to redrawl and post... They have arms, four tendrils, a head...they have a form to em.

[theblueknight]

if u make pictures of them post them on ur profile so we can all look

[Tenebrae]

Will do, I might remake the history and such...who knows...had it up before, though it was a work in progress and thus always changing.

[Tenebrae]

http://www.deviantart.com/view/16187072/


There you go...that should be it.

Also on a side note. It's a horrid pic... I had to use a pen cause I'm out of .05 lead...so yea...I can do much better then that, this is just a rough look.

[Dwimmerlaik]

Tenebrae, you obviosly didn't get what I was saying... I'm going to try to explain it differently now: first of all ever herd of the thory: Matter can neither be created or destroyed? Well here is an example If there is, lets say, 2000 tons of alien (I added every single one together), and they eat each other and reproduce how the 1-131_1_ are they going to all of a sudden way a total of 2500 tons, if they get the energy of reproducing by eating each other? Even moving your fingerhalf an inch takes energy, reducing your total wate by 0.0000000000000001 ounces (or something like that), you know burning caleries... ...I'll wate to see if you get what I'm saying before I continue...

[ReD_ICE]

i think the general idea of new races would mean that all sc/bw players would have to "get used" to the new races, and adapt to new strats, and new ideas, and it would obviously take more thinking than sc1

[theblueknight]

hey the law of conservation of mass only exsists so far on earth. in a different realm in a different dimension things can change. the physics and science we have and all the laws it deals with so far only works well on earth. if you go to mars everything will change.

[Thy_Mushroom]

hey the law of conservation of mass only exsists so far on earth. in a different realm in a different dimension things can change. the physics and science we have and all the laws it deals with so far only works well on earth. if you go to mars everything will change.
no , the law of conservation of mass/matter is universal . It still works on mars . Based on what we know about the universe one fact is that the laws of mathematics reign true for ever planet and every solar system as they are all linked through this space/time . There are some laws that change on other planets ( such as the law of gravity ) but in cases like these only the gravitational acceleration of 9.8 m/s needs to be changed to fit the equation of the gravity on another planet . Planets with lower gravity may have something like 1.2 m/s and planets with a stronger gravitational force would have something like 25.6 m/s

The only way to destroy matter in this universe would be a supermassive blackhole , but technically this is still only an untested hypothesis .

Go to an entirely differant universe or learn how to tap into an entirely differant universe and perhaps breaking such a scientific law would be possible .

Edit - almost forgot its m/s^2

[Tenebrae]

Go to an entirely differant universe or learn how to tap into an entirely differant universe and perhaps breaking such a scientific law would be possible .

That's what he was saying. And that is where my race is from...a very different dimension then that of our own...as stated before...their version of space is a blackish slime.

As for the laws and such of their realm...I didn't bother to get that technical.

[Thy_Mushroom]

Im pretty sure he said that the laws only apply to earth . He worded what he said in a way that sounded as if he thought everything changes when we leave this planet . This is not exactly the case .

[Tenebrae]

hey the law of conservation of mass only exsists so far on earth. in a different realm in a different dimension things can change.
Seems he said both heh

[theblueknight]

i meant that things that we know and have laws for only exsist where we can properly test them. we arent able to go to the X-Dimension so we dont know what and how the things work there. i just used how on earth everyting is one way and then on mars things change. like gravity friction coefficient... i didnt mean to say that on mars you can have destruction of matter. hope that it cleared that up.

[mr.nuke]

stupid friend:there should be a damn race, i've playing this shit for so long my people are old give us some new fucken shit to play with
Me:wat hemeans is that there should be a new race to play with or else this game is just geting lamer and lamer

[Drone]

What I think would be pretty cool, aside from a new race, would be different factions for each race. They would play similarly, but would have specific units per faction along with advantages/disadvantages, a little like the different generals in C&C:G.

Personally, I really want an amphibious/reptillian race 'cause I think that would be cool. Not exactly sure how it would work, but we'll just say that it would. Maybe they would be technologically inferior, but have advantages in the forms of combat...or something.

Eh, I'm tired and just speculating.Oh who gives a fuck what you think anyways Feceman. Darth Odious rules over you day and night, so just stick to the things you do know; racism, incest, and your sick 9/11 jokes.
No more crank calls. I'm serious. The shit is getting annoying. Go fuck your mother as well, if u can dig her up.
Laughing out loud.

oh gee... I hope this is enough writing! I 'd hate to be kicked out because i'm not ranting enough like everyone else in here.

Blah blah. I'm Feceman. I hate Darth Odious and got him kicked out of killermovies.com for expressing his opinion. Blah blah I'm feceman and I have my own webpage where i talk about myself and my amazing daily routine, because i am one amazing sonofabitch. Worship me.
Hi I'm Darth Odious and you are a true enemy. I hate you because you are troll and have crossed me.
Very unwise.
Country boy.

[Ecthelion]

Hybrids would rock as a playable race. I'm not too sure the Xel Naga would be such a good idea. Weren't the Protoss made in their image, so it would be like having two Toss's. What about a race of exclusively flying units? And, of course, you'd need Tenebrae's Abyssians :)

What about Duran's race? We're not quite sure what he is yet, but Blizzard could make him a shapeshifter or something and his race could become playable. Maybe the Hybrids revolt against him, so he calls the calvary?

[Sitnam]

I think a good way to include both the Hybrids and Xel'Naga would be to combine them into a race. I myself am in the "DUran is a disguised Xel-Naga camp", and I personally think that the Xel'naga are behind the Hybrids. And, if the HYbrids are ghoing to be a important enoguh race in the game, they'll need some serious boosts by another race to get them going, technologically speaking.

[ares232]

You know that Protoss-Zerg Hybrid in the secret mission in Brood War? That's gonna be the main baddie. It's gonna be crazy! I already made a mission on it. Anyone want it?

I'd love love to have it! But I hope it's not an exact copy of "The Dark Origin".

And I agree with you and some of the others about the Xel-Naga thing.

Duran is a Xel-Naga agent, check out "The Dark Origin" mission if you don't believe me!

He says and I quote:

"I am a servant of a far greater power, a power that has sleept for countless ages and is reflected in the creature within that cell (stasis cell). Behold your history!"

Also, Duran calls Zeratul a "Young Prodigal", he is older than Zeratul! How could this be if he weren't Xel-Naga?

How do they know that the Xel-Naga aren't still alive? The story on the CD says that they were supposdly wiped out by the Zerg and assimilated into the Swarm.

Duran is doing what the Xel-Naga did:

He pits a race against one another: (Terran vs. Zerg), (Zerg vs. Protoss), (Protoss vs. Terran), need I continue?

He knows a little to much for a Human, (deleted sound file "The Dark Origin")

Zeratul says this in a disabled trigger:

"No Terran mind could possibly comprehend the complexity of a Pylon!"

Almost gives it away dosen't it! (Reffering to Duran's presence in the Xel-Naga)

New Races/Factions:

Hybrids:
Xel-Naga:
Kimeran Pirates:(Terans with capabilities like Schezar), see ("Deception" blizzard map")
Stukov's militia:
Clandestine Mercenaries: ("The Dark Origin")
The Umojan Protecterate: (On CD, story about Terran factions)

That's about it, I think!

[Sitnam]

Duran is doing what the Xel-Naga did:

He pits a race against one another: (Terran vs. Zerg), (Zerg vs. Protoss), (Protoss vs. Terran), need I continue? The Xel'Naga never resortewd to violence except in self-defence, and I don't remebr anything about them pitting races agaisnt each other. They broguht life, not take it. The surviving Xel'Naga defintly may bepitting the races against each other, mainly for vengeance upon the zerg.

Also, in your race suggestions, I do not see how Terran pirates, mercenaries, etc deserve to be a seperate rcae. The UED could be a seperate race, since thye have had 100's of years of seperation from the Terrans.

[Mr.Bad]

no way no new ued race just factions for each race


im up for the races to be

TERRAN
-UED
-Raynor's Raiders
-Pirates

PROTOSS
-Dark Templar
-Normal
-dont know about this but maybe like fenix elite or something

ZERG
-Kerrigan
-Daggoth
-Infested Stukov

XELNAGA
-Xelnaga(no factions)
the xelnaga would have hybrid slaves

ANOTHER Race
(opposite of naga extreme version of zerg the way naga r extreme version of protoss

i like tenebraes abyss people but i think that would fit better in a game like wc it just doesnt seem right for sc and wasnt geckat going to post his map i want to see it. comments?

[Vorgan]

The only way to destroy matter in this universe would be a supermassive blackhole , but technically this is still only an untested hypothesis .


There's a second way, too, actually, they've successfully destroyed matter at some lab in Europe (I think they were the first to do it, as far as I know, we can do it here, too). Basically, you have to create Anti-Matter (through some nonsense with a particle accelerator, a super-fast Electron and some volatile element, I don't know the logistics). When Anti-Matter comes into contact with Matter as we know it, "Annihilation" takes place and both the Matter and Anti-Matter are destroyed totally. However, you can't destroy more Matter than you have of Anti-Matter, and vice versa. You can't destroy more than you're Limiting Agent (for you budding Chemists out there ;)). So yeah, sorry about the rant, just thought I share random jargon.

[Carnivore]

i agree with fenix-msg the Xel-Naga would own!!!1

[Ghost_Assasain]

Mr. Brad that would hold many problems for instance, the UED and the Dominion are not that differant. And I mean over the course between SC:BW and SCII there will not have been complete changes to what each faction uses. Otherwise we would be looking at an AoE type here, where each faction is exactly the same except for a special unit. Now I beleive that one or two new races would be better than splitting up the races into factions. they already fight each other they dont need completely differant tech trees as well.

Now maybe the Xel'Naga arn't needed to be a playable race, more of a story race. An injected race could be a slave race to them, plus Duran's Hybrids as two new races into the game.

[Darmago]

O.o, Unless I am mistaken, anihilations dont destroy matter, just turn it into energy...

I think the Xel'Naga(I dont think they got naga from this but more from DnD and myths) would be too powerful of a race to play, as well as the hybrids for they would be a combination of Zerg-Perfection of Mind and Protoss-perfection of body, and therefor too uber to be allowed to go against the other races. The Xel'Naga would be too powerful seeing as they were the creators of two of the previous three races.

I think that SCII would take place in a new area of space with the terren, protoss, zerg, and some other race, with a few of the classical units like zealots and hydralisks and such, and a whole bunch of new ones, making it an entirely new situation. I dont think they want a remake of star craft but a whole new experiance that makes up the two of the title. so other than a few of the older units added it to keep it the same universe((and nostalgia)), it would be entirely new.

Starcraft two should be completely different in storyline from SCI, and its expansion pack(which is almost assured with any blizzard game) would tie the two storylines together.

((Dont hurt me))

[Darmago]

A pre-infested race that the overmind stole zerglings from would be interesting, or somthing of the nature.

[blaxican_templar]

they really should make REAL HEROES,not just a souped up version of one.so far kerrigan is the only one.like,raynor can have his own type of armor,like,he could look sorta like master chief.I guess zeratuls alrite.Duran should look like some sort of alien,artanis is ok...i guess.yea.

[Darmago]

Raynor----mastercheif...

no...

but its a good idea...

They will prolly copy the hero system off of WCIII

[blaxican_templar]

Raynor----mastercheif...

no...

but its a good idea...

They will prolly copy the hero system off of WCIII

When i said that,i meant raynor should have a different set ifarmor,like a visor and stuff,i wasent saying he should look EXACTLY like the cheif man.(thank u for complememting my message BTW,im new to this forum so my esteem is low. :p

im thinken more and more about the hybirds myself.I can already imagine what will happen.BW ends with the cinamatic of kerrigans rain right?well,a few years later,she can smugged up and full of herself and WHAM duran comes in with his hybirds,takes out a few cerabrates,and kills a bunch of zerg.Than she ends up asking for help from ranor AGAIN(kinda dumb really)and he helps her.(BTW kerrigan is once agin plotting some more eveil)

P.S.S. i think fenix should survivr agin.he was the tightest hero in the game.

[ares232]

The only real difference between the UED and the Dominion was the new units you guys. The UED had valkyrie frigates, and medics. The Dominion had all the regular SC units and could not train valkyries or medics. So I think that the UED should not be a new race. It should be however, an existing faction brought back into SC 2. I think that the Xel-Naga and Hybrid races should be included with new units and advacements of the old races. The Zerg could assimilate old races and create new units right?

There should be a spell opposite than infest, to allow a Xel-Naga player to assimilate another race of that players choice. Even though the Zerg assimilated some of the Xel-Naga I want to know which units are of that strain. The Xel-Naga will probably be a IMO, the most advanced race, and physicly gifted race out the of the exisiting ones. Some Xel-Naga units might include: wanderer, shifter, and a new templar unit with more ability than the Protoss one.

[Holocaust]

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P.S.S. i think fenix should survivr agin.he was the tightest hero in the game.[/QUOTE]

o.o, jeez the guy died twice, let him rest, he is after all over 500 years old o.o
And plus once a dragoon is destroyed, I would think that the shattered body inside would cease to exist but it's only a guess

[blaxican_templar]

o.o, jeez the guy died twice, let him rest, he is after all over 500 years old o.o
And plus once a dragoon is destroyed, I would think that the shattered body inside would cease to exist but it's only a guess



sdaly,i think your correct,but still its a good dream.i bet if fenix foughtkerrigan one on one when he was still a zealot he woulda ripped her a new one!!!!!

[H-Dog]

His name is Fenix, his name might be a couple letters off but it's his destiny to be constantly reborn from the ashes... They'll just keep finding new things to toss him into.