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WarZone
09-14-2004, 11:55 AM
well as i know there will obiviously will be Hybrids because after 8-9 [broodwar] zerg campaing mission if u beat less than 15-20 min then u get bonus mission... but many ppl talk about other race the Xel'Naga well as i watched and read from some forums there should be such race but aren't they suppose to be dead because of zerg overrun?

Aqo
09-14-2004, 12:01 PM
I'm not sure bout' the Xel'naga... but you can hear many things in the net, there is a place with a picture of infested stukov (good picture too) and there is a storyline somewhere saying that duran is not infested but actually a Xel*naga that will lead an army of hybrids to take control over the world (4 those dunno (if there are) the Xel'naga wanted to create the perfect race, they created the protoss for a test, than created the zerg, but kerrigan ruined their project so now they're going 4 zerg/protoss hybrids with duran as the leader).
but than the terran and the protoss will join together to defeat the hybrids and will win and live peacefuly 4 ever and ever till the expansion set.

Stonehand
09-14-2004, 5:24 PM
The Manual said the Greater whole of the Xel'aga was destroyed not all! there's a difference be Greater whole, and all

Hunta
09-15-2004, 7:42 AM
The Manual said the Greater whole of the Xel'aga was destroyed not all! there's a difference be Greater whole, and all

You have learned well my son.

Tenebrae
09-20-2004, 6:23 AM
Ah, finally I'm not the only one whom grasp the concept that greater whole dosn't mean the entire race. Excelent.

Pinstripe
09-21-2004, 5:39 PM
I don't think you were the only one... its just everyone who thought greater whole meant all were too stupid to keep thier mouths shut.

Spartan-II
09-21-2004, 6:46 PM
Ah, finally I'm not the only one whom grasp the concept that greater whole dosn't mean the entire race. Excelent.
Wtf? I realized that.. Maybe you were to stupid to realize the others realized it!! :chair:

Garrec
09-23-2004, 7:35 PM
I don't think that the Xel'Naga would make a good race. An excerpt from the StarCraft Manual states:

"This enigmatic race, often called the, Xel’Naga, or ‘wanderers from afar’, was rumored to have seeded and cultivated thousands of various species on the cold and barren worlds within their domain. Protoss traditions hold that the Xel’Naga were a peaceful and benevolent race, utterly consumed with the study and propagation of sentient evolution within the universe. Nothing is known of the origin of the Xel’Naga, save that they were not native to the galaxy over which they held sway."

They seem like a peaceful race. They were defeated by both the Protoss and Zerg forces. Their main power seems to come from evolutionary science and genetics rather than military strength. If the Xel Naga were indeed very powerful psionic people, I would think that the Protoss and Overmind's psionic abilities would have detected them if they were still near in the galaxy. Seems how the Zerg or Protoss probably can't cross galaxies, there really isn't a need for the Xel Naga to get involved in such a full scale war. If anything they would just watch over the conflict and see how successful their creations are at battle.

As for the hybrids, I think that the hybrids would be better off as addional support units for any races that choose to benefit from the strange science. Original experiments merged Zerg and Protoss, and even if the end result is an extremely powerful being, I can't see hybrids growing into a unified race. They would probably be better off as single player heroes employed by either the Terrans of Zerg (The Protoss see them as abominations).

starcraftruler777
09-23-2004, 7:41 PM
Quote by Garrec:
"This enigmatic race, often called the, Xel’Naga, or ‘wanderers from afar’, was rumored to have seeded and cultivated thousands of various species..."

Maybe we're going to see some of the other races created by the Xel'Naga...

Frattimonde
09-23-2004, 11:49 PM
Hmm, I think It would be intressting with a race of cyborgs. Orignally a group of terran sicentists which were banned from the earth, because of their "obsession" of perfecting mankind with nano-mechanical and genetic agumentations. When they were banned, they took of from earth and settle down In an distant solar system, far away from any "disurbance" where they could continue their research. And during the coming ages until the period of the events of Starcraft, they´ve developed themselves very high In borg-tech. Every human of their kind have at least 35% of his/hers body replaced with cyborg genetic implants. Their weapon tech would pretty much alike the terrans, but however. An other thought could be that they could assimilate other races, and convert their technology or use any of their genetics to enhance the other borgs.

What do you think?

Torino10
09-24-2004, 2:52 AM
I like the Idea of a completely robotic race perhaps created by Terran scientists to fight the Zerg.

Aqo
09-24-2004, 3:00 AM
gj Fratt, that's an awesome idea!
(hey!!!, Human/Machine hybrids were my idea! damn I should releash my projects more often...)

Frattimonde
09-24-2004, 9:43 AM
gj Fratt, that's an awesome idea!
hey!!!, Human/Machine hybrids were my idea! damn I should releash my projects more often...


What kinda human hybrid have you thought of?

Aqo
09-24-2004, 9:54 AM
I've once made a bound called: "Terror bound" and it began when you and your fellow terrorists (human players) came to the terrorist leader (neutral player) and he told you that the army are working on a new project to create the perfect soldiers, the idea was combining mechanics inside the men, making them half human half war machine.
the terrorist leader than asked you to steal the plans so that you'll be the one to become the "perfect soldier" and take over the planet with the rest of the terrorists.
so than it's kinda, you're in a city and have many exits to different directions, the army info banks, a secret bunker, and a secret training center, but in your way many weird obstacles are trying to stop you, it's moving in a difficulty level from the easiest obstacles that every n00b can do to obstacles than even after 150 tries you might not succeed doing them, but of course than I have to test them to make sure they're possible...
and in the end you meet the terrorist leader again and you become super units (modified goliats).
but when you just begin to enjoy your power the army arrives with lotsa tanks and stuff with a prove that you've stolen their plans, so now they wanna kill ya.
with only 6 people (or less... 6 is the max human players available) you need to stop the army from destroying all of your terrorist organization.
than you run back into a terrorist bunker and it becomes a hardcoreb defence game.
when you finish a group of more super soldiers that were trained and "updated" join you, (every player gets 5 more goliats) and than it's just, kill whoever is your enemy to see the victory sign.
but after a month I got another cool idea for a map and this map was thrown into my list of projects left behind... that today have about 120 different maps XO.
If you want I can submit what ready of the map to you (and everybody else that wanna play 5 levels of a bound) to see...

Darkslayer633
09-24-2004, 12:01 PM
Hmm, I think It would be intressting with a race of cyborgs. Orignally a group of terran sicentists which were banned from the earth, because of their "obsession" of perfecting mankind with nano-mechanical and genetic agumentations. When they were banned, they took of from earth and settle down In an distant solar system, far away from any "disurbance" where they could continue their research. And during the coming ages until the period of the events of Starcraft, they´ve developed themselves very high In borg-tech. Every human of their kind have at least 35% of his/hers body replaced with cyborg genetic implants. Their weapon tech would pretty much alike the terrans, but however. An other thought could be that they could assimilate other races, and convert their technology or use any of their genetics to enhance the other borgs.

What do you think?
I think that it is straight out of startrek. and possibly not your idea at all

Dezzick
09-24-2004, 1:27 PM
I'd say, have the hybrids, and have the hero rebbeling and taking all the other hybrids with him.

Frattimonde
09-24-2004, 2:33 PM
I think that it is straight out of startrek. and possibly not your idea at all

I know.

But It could still be intressting to see a "borg-like race" In SC2, or a race consistant only of machines.

Original_JaminGrit
09-25-2004, 12:18 AM
The zerg are sort of like the borg, in that they are trying to asimilate every useful creature and destroy what cannot be assimilated. Though, the zerg are 100% biological. Which is even cooler.

WarZone
09-25-2004, 2:35 PM
only machines what is this unsucessfull lab experiment? the machines were created to help humans in to their battle against they're enemys... In SC there are no machine which runs itself all are commanded by humans so the only way to get Machines in a gameplay is to create artificial brain :)
i don't think that happen but i think it would be fun :)

Scauthra
09-27-2004, 4:51 AM
Hybrids, of course. Not the hybrids as a whole though. Renegades(I believe that is the word x.x) that were disconnected in one of the labs somewhere hidden. Say there was a mechanical failure which caused the system's power to bounce on and off, and during that, a few of the hybrids there were going under experimentation break free. Slay the scientist and release the other hybrids. Let's just say that the scientist were playing with thier intellegence, and made the mistake to grant a biological diffrence which gives unnoitced tela...tel... (yeah, that word x.x). The hybrids take over the lab, skwabble about what's going on and then go from there. Past that, it's open.

Another race, a whole new race. Taken from a thought about. Another Xel`Naga race which the few left created after the failure of the Zerg. I'm not very good with the futuristic race creation, howerver, this race could be something completly new in concept. Another whole new race never though of before. I just.. can not think of them without thinking something horribly freakish or resembles things already created.

Oh well.

Stonehand
10-05-2004, 5:41 AM
Here's my theroy: The ENEMY(dun, dun, dun!) of the Xel'naga were making the Hybrids! It kinda would make sense. Now, I'm not questioning if Duran's Xel'naga, But why would a species like the Xel'naga create a coming chaotoic war with something like the Hybrids? Either he and his species are Xel'naga who's against their own kind, or some other species that likes to screw space or the Xel'naga's projects up.
I belive that that might be three outcome to this theory for the Xel'naga's place in the new races in SC2: The Xel'naga Renegades, the Enemy of Xe'naga, or both(minus the Renegade part)! As for the Hybrid's place, it could be in a own special team, sorta like the Creeps(I think it's called that, poliety correct me if I'm wrong) in WCIII, but no one could ally them up in any way.

Demosthene5
10-07-2004, 2:23 PM
I like the Idea of a completely robotic race perhaps created by Terran scientists to fight the Zerg.
This has been done already in fps series Unreal, super l33t robotic warriors created by humans to fight the... "skarj" or something? that take over their own factories and become a separate fighting force in the war. Its been done, but it would make a very interesting race in the sc rts universe.

DeJaZvU
10-08-2004, 10:16 AM
mmm cyborgs would be cool... but im thinking that would be way too close the race of terran.../ >.<

but good idea... but then again ur talknig about high tech gadgets which wouldnt really fit the theme of starcraft... like the highest tech stuff u got in SC:BW is like arbiter recall and like blah blah blah... cyborgs o.O gawd knows what they can do o.O

~DeJaZvU~

Original_JaminGrit
10-08-2004, 9:35 PM
Cyborgs would be kind of cool, but they don't fit the story line at all. Maybe if they were just another terran unit. Similar to the Dragoon, the cyborgs would be marine veterans that suffered a near fatal injury and needed prosthetic body parts all over, thus giving him things like strong mechanical arms with built in lasers... etc;. Let your imagination run amok. But a whole race just suddenly spawning with no real connection to the story other than the terrans made them wouldn't be enjoyable. Now, if the connection was a bit deeper, say that a faction of angry protoss tampered with their robots, then that might be acceptable.

Dark_Viper
10-08-2004, 9:42 PM
Hmm, I think It would be intressting with a race of cyborgs.
What do you think?Thaks for the killer idea fratt... ill start working on some concept drawing for a 5th race in Codename: Ground Zero

races so far:
Terran
Protoss
Zerg
Hybrids
Cyborg(NEW!!)

Dark_Viper

Frattimonde
10-09-2004, 1:20 AM
Thaks for the killer idea fratt... ill start working on some concept drawing for a 5th race in Codename: Ground Zero

races so far:
Terran
Protoss
Zerg
Hybrids
Cyborg(NEW!!)

Dark_Viper

And what exactly Is "Codename: Zero"?

Kazansky
10-09-2004, 2:42 AM
HOLD IT!! You can make an additional race in your mod? That's just friggin' impossible. :confused:

Dark_Viper
10-09-2004, 6:11 AM
And what exactly Is "Codename: Zero"?Codename: Ground Zero is a Free Battlefield 1942 & Battlefield 2 MOD that I am working on... so im making all of my models in High detail for BF2 and then powering them down for BF1942...

You can basically play as each and every unit there is in Starcraft/SCBW in 1st or 3rd person...plus use any of the vehicals from the books also... and any new units and weapons that I am making for it also...

Hunta
10-11-2004, 2:56 PM
Personally, I think the Cyborgs are already in StarCraft, in the form of Terran soldiers. They are all enhanced and modified with non-biological implants. Especially Ghosts are close to being a Cyborg. And lets not forget StarCraft: Ghost features Terran Cyborgs as well. I wouldn't see them as a different faction because it would make no sense at all.