The full ordeal from what went on at BF last night (from my pov)

[Demon_Child]

As you all have known about the event that had happened at Blizzforums.com last night. I would like to take the time to inform you of what was going on during the wole incident took place. As I was looking over the forum indes of Blizzofrums I noticed that Mystikal was online and that he was demoted from Admin to a regular member. Therefore, I decided to announce it in the staff forum pointing out what I had saw. Then a little while later, I noticed that Edgewize and AJ had also been demoted to regular member. This is when I wanted some answers, and I wanted them NOW.

Redcloak makes a rather blunt and pointless statement that he is the boss of Blizzofrums and all, so I told him to cut the I own you bullshit attitude, before I decide to buy Blizzforums from Eman and put him in his place because I was growing tired of it.

At that same time I was getting PM's from AJ stating that I shouldn't buy the forums, because there was a surprise in store. Since I never liked surprises in the first place, I was kinda apprehensive about it at first. However, my curoisity had gotten the better of me and I wanted to find out what this surprise was. During this same time I was having an IM convo with dunchy about what is occuring so he joins me up with a group of other Blizzofrumers unhappy with the way the staff are handling thngs.
During the convo AJ was planning on getting back at the staff at BF, that I will admit was infact, true, and I am guilty of not stopping him from doing something of that nature. :(

Once I have finally gotten to see what this surprise was from AJ, I then went into the Mod Control Panel and create an annuncement that stated my resignition from the BF staff due to "unreconcilable differences" along with a link to warboards.org. My announcement wasn't even up for a minute before it had been physically removed (by Redcloak or XG3) and my account beeing banned.

I never had "egged" AJ on to do anything at Blizzforums and nor do I condone his actions at Blizzforums either. However the Staff at Blizzofrums (Mainly Redcloak and XG3) are also in the wrong in this matter because they performed witchhunts, withough making the full investigations. I mean, where is this evidence that I supposedly "egged" AJ on according to XG3, can anyone tell me? Anyone at all? I didn't think so.

I thank you all for not buying into the bullshit that the corrupted staff members of Blizzforums have been selling to you and for that I owe you all the deepest debt of gratitude that I could ever offer to you.

[Dark_Soul74]

Now then, let's get some ideas up. Perhaps revenge using the members who still exist at BF?

[SunTzu]

Yay, I'm not the only one who didn't know they've been planing this for months. lol

[SunTzu]

Now then, let's get some ideas up. Perhaps revenge using the members who still exist at BF?

Or not...

[UndeadBastard]

I think we should leave them alone now.

Anybody wanna post this on BF?

[Demon_Child]

No, we will have nothing of that sort at all. The best revenge against the staff at BF is for WarBoards to be more popular than BF. :)

[AJ]

I'd like to remind you all that, while I can't condone my own actions from last night, I do request that you all act on your best behavior at Blizzforums. While I may not be on the best terms with that site now, I believe I speak for all of the staff here when I say that any actions at BF that may be viewed as.. improper, will warrant punishment here as well.

thanks guys. ;)

[UndeadBastard]

Ok...

LEt's make a pact! :p

[UED77]

Yeah, I agree with AJ, we should not do anything to BF that we would not like receiving here at WB.

Demon Child, thanks for the honest summary of events.

UED77

[LXM-Designs]

Wow, this really gives some answers people were waiting for! Thanks DC, thanks for not being an ass like the higer staff @ BF, thanks for being honest, what the BF highest staff obviously wasnt.

Wow, in the time I posted this, 5 new posts were posted :P
I don't think people from here will spam BF or something like that, I don't even think I will post there anymore...

[Mordecai2k]

I still like blizzforums. It's where i started and i'm not going to abandon it for something i was barely a part of. Warboards is great and i'd like to be here to see it blossom ^^

[Achelus]

Here's all my posts from the thread, I don't mind DC posting her point of view, but I have no clue where it's coming from, so here's the posts, make your own judgement.
Edgewize has been gone since we changed servers. I was mistaken here, I thought this was accurate at the time.

...About AJ, not pertinent to you...
That's inevitable, you're free to believe what you will, but I can only present what really happened.
BF is its own site operated indepedently of the Org and Legacy networks.

Edit: I just wanted to give you a heads up on what happened, I'm going back to gunbound. I'll answer any other questions before I go to bed.


Which means nothing. We run this site with its own interests in mind. That's why I'm involved almost totally hear, and only marginally elsewhere.

Cut the bitchy attitude DC.

Yeah, it was late, and I was in a hurry, so I put hear instead of here.

That's all the posts, where exactly I stated that I owned the forums, or anything to that extent is beyond me. Enjoy all.

[SunTzu]

/me hugs Redcloak

[AJ]

RC, you might as well have used your actual name.

In case you were curious, unless your actions warrant it, i've asked the staff here not to touch you or anyone else from BF's accounts. I'd like this to be the closest you can get to a full view of things.

Regarding Edge, Myst and I removing our own powers, that is quite true. When I removed mine, which Eman can attest to, Edge and Myst were still admins. I then asked Myst to remove his own, and then Edge to remove his.

[UED77]

Thank you Redcloak, but I think everyone who was interested in it has already read it at BF.

UED77

[mcflurry_1982]

I thank you all for not buying into the bullshit that the corrupted staff members of Blizzforums have been selling to you and for that I owe you all the deepest debt of gratitude that I could ever offer to you.
what bs? youre saying basically the same thing.

[Mordecai2k]

what bs? youre saying basically the same thing.

haha..

[Demon_Child]

*yawn* Hey RC, you still haven't shown any evidence about me "egging" AJ on have you? Maybe you have forgotten this little excerpt between Geno and XG3 concerning my stance on the matter. Geno:

Hey, I just realized a few things. About 5 or 6 names, other than AJ have disappeared from the mod list... Including DC! Omg! What happened there? Demon_Child was the shiz!

---------

XG3:

DC was one of the people "egging on" AJ to do the things he did. Only a few minor people were banned, DC being one of them.

The forumers aren't going to follow blindly behind the staff forver.

[Sfinx]

DC, I wish I'd read that announcement. Red said he banned you because the announcement was nothing but advertizing for warboards, and that you created a second account afterwards too, in his words: "Her subsequent creation of an additional account to advertise further".

[AJ]

For the rest of you, DC's listed reasoning for being banned in her User thread on BF was that she misused the announcement system..

And while she is a moderator here, her announcement solely mentioned ORG leaving BF and a link to Edge's thread.

[Luther-Stark]

DC what Sphinx said is incorrect, right? Was a second account created?

[Sfinx]

Ehh... it's "sFinx" >.<

[LXM-Designs]

Don't even try sfinx, I will always call you sphinx...

[dunchy]

Keep in mind Luther that if the books were used extremly firm, Redcloak would be banned from the site for making another account as well at Blizzforums, take everything with a grain of salt.

[UED77]

Honestly, why would anybody care? We are here at WB, some are there at BF, make your choice.
Choose the one where you have fun, the one which is spam-free, flame-free, the one that you think is better.

I don't know who's saying the truth but I know feel better here.

The choice is yours.

UED77

[Demon_Child]

I did make a 2nd accound when I found out that my account had been banned w/o viable reason, that I'll admit.

However, the manner in which they handled my so-called "Announcement missuse." is rather questionable since the way I created the announcement was far from missuse as to what my User File is stating. I stated my resignigtion and posted the link like I have mentioned on page 1.

[Achelus]

RC, you might as well have used your actual name.
It was already taken, and I just needed a quick post.

DC's post invited everyone to go join WarBoards, which is hardly an appropriate Announcement for BlizzForums. It was removed, as was she while I could look into it further. She made another account, and that she tried advertising with it too, so that pretty much shored things up. Regardless, I believe that DC expected it to happen, she's not stupid, and it's a moot point anyway.

As for the information about you egging AJ on, it is my understanding that XG3 received that from a person who is an administrator here. I wasn't a party to the exact conversation.

The forumers aren't going to follow blindly behind the staff forver.
We're really not out to lead anyway, we're just trying to create an enviroment where the posters can enjoy themselves. The rules and actions we implement are meant to facilitate that job, and only time can tell whether the job we're doing is proper.

[AJ]

RedCloak do you have an account at warcraft.org? If you then you should just be able to log in here using that same account and password, we've tied the user db's of the two sites together.

As to someone providing XG3 information, BSTRhino told XG3 that certain people were egging me on, which I don't really wish to be a large point here, I did what I did because I was trying to get back at you guys -- not because others were enjoying the fact that I could. Anyhow, BST mentioned several names, but not quite the best selection of names, Schwitzer and DC among them, they weren't egging me on in any fashion.

[Achelus]

I had it send an email to the Redcloak account, but I didn't receive it within a few minutes, so I presumed someone else had it.

However, the email has since showed up :)

[AJ]

Right, well.. If your RedCloak account works you're welcome to use that.. I'll have to check with Edge about removing your account though, still haven't finished setting up all the features with the combined DBs.. so changing names, etc is a bit iffy. ;)

[Demon_Child]

I can name many of instances in with YOU and other SCL staff members at BF completely ignore the proper way of doing their job, RC . Here are two of them, where were you in fulfilling you fucking job in unbanning Xenon last february for a direct violation to the forums rules? How about the spamming of his goddamn Forums and all I get is "It's just Xenon." I tolerate it no longer, you can stay in your forum full of double standards, because I certainly won't.

[Achelus]

I'm sorry that still bothers you, after all this time DC. I can't change what happened, so that's that.

[Demon_Child]

Well you are contradicting youself about keeping up with your duties as Forum Administrator, RC. Perhaps this time you will be more thoughtful on your duties than your friendships, since I know that we never did get along much (with all of the arguements in the Staff Forum) and you just wanted an excuse for me to leave/get banned.

But since I am perma banned for the crimes that I have committed and though I have no intentions of being a part of the Blizzforums community ever again, I wish you a good day. Sir.

[Achelus]

Perhaps it's best if we don't talk DC. You're really just drudging up the same old disagreements, so there's no purpose.

I just wanted everyone to see what transpired since you had said such harsh things about my statements.

I'm off to find some moderators.

[Fenguin]

Waah, don't argue people. You might start fighting, and that makes me want to cry. :(

[Demon_Child]

No need to worry, feng he is no longer worth my attention.

[Fenguin]

Ok cool. :D I guess I don't need that handkerchief after all... :D

[Demon_Child]

Nope, I am afraid not. Though I can't garauntee that I won't torture some poor helpless forumer. *grins evily*

[zergstain]

I'm just curious how much Eman would sell for, and would he sell to me if I had $500 U.S. to spend on a website. What are you, rich?

[dunchy]

Umm...more along the lines of 10 G there zergstain, but I think the real estate of that site has gone down sadly.

[Demon_Child]

The property value of BF had dopped down the drain after we formed WarBoards. :)

[ChaosZon]

Really?

Somehow I highly doubt it.

[Fenguin]

When people come here and see how nice we are, they'll stay here and forsake BF. :D

[UndeadBastard]

Um yeah, I never got to become a regular at fenguin so, it's like BF and fenguin combined.

[ChaosZon]

To sleep, perchance to dream...

[Twitt]

Though I can't garauntee that I won't torture some poor helpless forumer. *grins evily*

Oh I love it when you talk dirty to me ;)

[zergstain]

10G! What exactly is it that the buyer would be purchasing?

[UndeadBastard]

Er..Blizzforums

[Demon_Child]

Basically.

[cole]

blah blah blah, this gosu site>>>>>BF

[Demon_Child]

Let's not try to make the relations between the two communities any worse than they already are, please.

[zergstain]

Alright, how much is the name blizzforums.com valued at, and who decides its value?

[Demon_Child]

Eman, decides it's value and it probably isn't even worth half of what he is selling it for.

[Fenguin]

Of course, he'll have to lower the price if no one buys it :D
And is he really really going to sell it? O.O

[zergstain]

So he's actually accepting $10,000 from whoever wants to buy it? Is this for all of Legacy, or just BF?

[Demon_Child]

I doubt that it would do you any good to buy it anyway. *shrugs*

[Demon_Child]

all for BF, I think, though eman would love to do whatever he wanted with your $10,000 and probably mess up the Admin CP so you can't admin anything.

[Fenguin]

Yeah, paying money for a forum? First of all, probably everyone in the forum's going to laugh at the buyer, and secondly, that's a huge chunk of money that you could spend on so many other things. :D

[Demon_Child]

Xenon had almost bought the fourms to make it into a paysite.

I would have been demoded because of my history with Xenon. But I wouldn't want to take money from someone I hate so much for doing his dirty work.

[Twitt]

Unfortunately, no one would post under a tyrant like that for free. Good luck getting someone to pay to post under you.

[Demon_Child]

I certainly would not want to. :/

[zergstain]

Honestly, I don't have $200 CDN to spend on this. But if neccessary I would do whatever I could to prevent Eman from fucking me up.

Edit: Paysite? Pfttt.

[Demon_Child]

No need to worry, Edgewize isn't going to let Eman get his hands on this website. :)

[Fenguin]

I must conclude that: Paysites aren't cool. If any forum turned into a paysite, I would instantly leave :D

[Luther-Stark]

wait. I dind't exactly read the whole thread but, how much money IS needed for a site like this /month?

!~Cheers.

[Schwitzer]

Just dredging this thread back on topic for a sec, I'd like to post my comment from the BlizzForums "what really happened" thread:

Schwitzer was slightly involved, but since he doesn't really moderate anymore and is "departed," he's fine with us demodding him.
Kindly do not slander my name; I've had enough of that this evening. I was surprised at the ban, though, that was an interesting plot twist.

I resigned from these forums about a month ago (although I admit not many people seemed aware of this), and after being incorrectly pointed at as one of those "egging on" the happenings of tonight the Administration has chosen to unban and demod me.

As stated, I have moved on and agree with the demodding, as I am obviously not going to be "doing my job". I am curious, however, why I wasn't given the traditional "honour" of a green name that is custom to retired staff members?

[Fenguin]

They wanted a scapegoat so they wouldn't have to take a bunch of blame. :(

[Demon_Child]

Well, unfortunately, it had backfired on them. They shouldn't have pushed us over the edge and everything would have been okie dokie. :/

[Mordecai2k]

i can't believe we can spend so much time on a forums without avys or sigs. Haha.

[Fenguin]

See? That shows we don't need them :D
Waah, what I wouldn't do for a splash of color on these forums. I think avatars/sigs will be the solution! Fo' the motha'land! ;)

[Visceral]

You can complain about spammers, or a lack of interesting discussion, or whatever you want, but personally I feel that the biggest weakness of BF is the fucking juvenile melodrama that happens every few months. Personally, I don't give a shit what happened and I'm sick of people slinging mud back and forth. There's still a ton of great people at BF and there's a ton of great people over here now, and personally I'm going to be a member of both. I say we all stop being a bunch of whiny drama queens and put this behind us. I think both forums have great futures ahead of them.

[Fenguin]

Yesh indeed. But the poor relationships between some of the members here and some of the members there may never be remedied :(
Haha, jk, I think that all of this will be over in a few weeks and everyone will love each other again ;)

[Achelus]

Xenon had almost bought the fourms to make it into a paysite.
Xenon was definitely not going to make it a pay site. He was going to offer extended services and merchandise to make money back. However, you know how DC gets when she doesn't like someone :)

[Luther-Stark]

Chill out man. your starting to piss me off.

!~Cheers(Nah)

[Demon_Child]

Don't mind him, luther, he is just brooding over the fact that we have left BF for a far better place to which he can't boss us around anymore. :D

[Mordecai2k]

Don't mind him, luther, he is just brooding over the fact that we have left BF for a far better place to which he can't boss us around anymore. :D

sweet :devil:

[AJ]

Xenon's plans were many and mixed.. however he didn't end up buying BF, so we can't be sure how it would have gone.

I must insist that either you stop bickering with RC, he does the same with you, or something will be done. and i'm not a big fan of punishment.

[Demon_Child]

I have already given up trying to argue with him since I don't feel like dropping to his level. So no need to worry about me. :)

[Mordecai2k]

there is nothing a few mudslides couldn't cure, right Demon_child? hehe ^^

[Demon_Child]

there is nothing a few mudslides couldn't cure, right Demon_child? hehe ^^

A few mudslides and a huge grin on my face to be exact. :D

[Mordecai2k]

A few mudslides and a huge grin on my face to be exact. :D

Oh, oh and how about some drool running down your chin!?

[Demon_Child]

No. No drool. Just the grin and the Mudslides. :)

[Mordecai2k]

No. No drool. Just the grin and the Mudslides. :)

Ok :(

I think i have a year old TGIF egg nog in my fridge^^

[Demon_Child]

Egg nog never lasts a week with me.

[Graeme]

I enjoy Egg Nog, but this year I just wasn't in the mood. Perhaps because I couldn't find any NutMeg to put in it.

[Mordecai2k]

i had a little but my mom caught me and shook her head. so then i felt bad and threw it out ^^

[SoldierPrime]

Ok :(

I think i have a year old TGIF egg nog in my fridge^^

I had some expired milk and got picutres of it to so i could show people because i even had some of it after it was about 2 days old, as a matter of fact heres a picutre ^^

Got Expired Milk?
http://members.lycos.co.uk/soldierprime/bbb.jpg

[LuckyBastard]

Lol SoldierPrime. You take 1337 pictures. :)

[Graeme]

I want to see the actual milk, not just the label on it :P.

[SoldierPrime]

The milk has been poured out long ago........

[Mordecai2k]

just post naked pictures of yourself

[SoldierPrime]

I doubt the page would even load, the brutal fuglyness of me would trigger something that it is worse than goatse and trigger the stop of the load of the page. O_O

[Mordecai2k]

do it i love naked things

[Schwitzer]

Does this mean you also love goatse, Mordecai2k?!

[UndeadBastard]

Eww...I think have rotten spaghetti, it's been in my fridge for almost a month now.

[dunchy]

Mmm...Eggnog...Yum :)

[d00d]

Does this mean you also love goatse, Mordecai2k?!

goatse and tubgirl own. =P

(btw, aren't we getting a bit off-topic?)

[Demon_Child]

We all have been off topic (regular members and staff both) ever since WarBoards had opened it's forums. ;)

[Schwitzer]

You know, I really think I like chocolate.

[Demon_Child]

I think so, too. :p

[d00d]

pie > chocolate

[Demon_Child]

Chocolate pie > regular pie :p

[d00d]

pie pie > chocolate pie =P

[LXM-Designs]

me > d00d

^_^