The Hierophant's Proselytizer Questionnaire

[Protosschick99]

Alrighty, I've glanced through this questionnaire thingy and I've got answers to every question that I've read.

Now, I'm going to answer from 1-3 questions per day, so that what I type settles in with you guys.

Please don't flame or bring in anything that has nothing to do with this thread. Doing so will cause me to bring a moderator in and delete what you posted.

Because I want you all to know that what I type is of God. I'm not your ordinary Christian ya'llz :P As a Christian I am a representation of God and I plan on representing my Father with greatness and awesome utterance.

Also--To all you other Christians on these forums who claim to be Christian but know that ya'llz have been living in sin--Don't try to minister to someone and answer back to pplz questions. How will God use you to minister if you don't even honor Him or live right? Dun even trip--Ya'llz know who you are.

So I tell you now, do not try to be holy and respond when you don't even live right. Get in the Word before you criticize others for not knowing God.

If you answer back and I know that you don't live right and/or your answer is not satisfactory (Meaning you didn't study your Bible and don't know what the Word says) and/or it is just not of God, then I will ask a mod to delete your post. If it cannot be deleted for some reason, I will ignore what you put and say that it is irrelevant to what God has for us.

Why am I being so serious? Because this is a serious matter. What you say represents God ppl! These are pplz souls on the line--We are messing with their eternity! And if you say something that is not of God and it turns someone away from God--You will be held accountable for your actions when you meet your creator in Heaven. I am telling you this because I am already responsible for doing that to someone. I will never make the same mistake again and I want to teach you guys so ya'llz know better now.

Anywayz, just don't respond if it's not on your heart or if you don't know scripture and/or if you're not living right--You'll just make yourselves and God look stupid.

Alrighty! Here is the first question:

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#0 If necessary, use this space to explain any unique beliefs your sect has about the nature of your god, heaven, hell, the Bible, the Holy Spirit/Ghost, Satan, etc.
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There are so many things that I can say about my God which are relevant to this cause.. But I would write pages and pages of His awesome glory and it still wouldn't be enough.

What comes to my mind first hand is His love. My God and Father is one of love. He gave His only son Jesus (John 3:16) to die for us. And that was what created a new covenant with God for us. Because of what Jesus did, we can now be like Him (i.e. cast out demons, heal the sick, prophetic word, walk in love, etc.)

Another cool thing is that when Jesus rose again and came back for a while but then ascended into Heaven--He sent the Holy Spirit to us. The Holy Spirit is our councellor and comforter--It's through the Holy Spirit that we overcome a lot of stuff that tries to take us down in the natural. It's through the Holy Spirit that we do what God wants us to do. When you put God's will first in your life over what you wanna do, you'll be blessed. I do what God wants me to do because He's got awesome things planned for me! (Jeremiah 29:11)

I also like how we can ask for things in Jesus Name and they'll be given to us. (Obviously if it is good in the Lord's eyes or if it is according to His will :))

Things like that are just awesome!

Tomorrow, more cometh! lolz :P

[hammocksleeper]

Good as a fellow Christian I would like to see your answers to these. :)

[Valjean]

That question seems awfully familiur.....O_o

Is this directed at me in any way? o_O

[Protosschick99]

I took these from your sig :P

[Valjean]

I noticed...hence the first part of my post. :P

[Protosschick99]

It's not directed at you, otherwise I would've been all stupid and said, "This is to go at YOU WEREWOLF!!" lolz

But I'm not dumb like that nor am I going to be rude and say that :)

[Cygnus]

*shivers* Atleast you got through the first question alright, it's gonna start getting nasty later.

Anyways it's nice to see some answers to questions PC, ramble on! :)

[Protosschick99]

I'm gonna write more either today, or after I get back from church tonight :)

[Cygnus]

Perhaps this thread should be moved to the Roundtable? Since PC, myself, and probably others want only serious discussion in the thread.

[Protosschick99]

Good thinking :) Wish I had thought of that last night, lolz :P

[Cygnus]

Just talk to one of your friendly neighborhood spid.... mods. Just send a PM or an IM, I'm sure they'd fulfill your request.

[Valjean]

I look forward to reading this thread. :)

Some of the questions are easy and seem to be thrown in just to be an ass, but some of them are actually valid and tough to answer. =/

[riBd]

Yay! Looking forward to more, PC.



ramble on! :)
Leaves are fallin' all around
It's time, I was on my way

But still, I'm much olbiged
Such a pleasant stay
But now it's time for me to go
The autmmn moon lights my way

For now I've smelt the rain
And with it pain
And it's headin' my way

Ah, sometimes I grow so tired
But I know there's one thing I gotta do...

[Cygnus]

I was listening to that while I was tying the post of course, good ol' Led Zeppelin. :D

Anyways, you're quite correct Werewolf many of those questions are a bit stupid but I especially like the two questions where you have to prove your religion in one and in the other one disprove it. For in the end you should always be able to see the other sides views as well.

[wraizyr]

Heh, I spent about 2 hours doing research for this quiz thingy, then I found that the people(the ones whos site I spent most of the 2 hours on) had found the quiz, and completed it.
That was a "DOH" moment. ^^

See my siggy.

[Ender]

I got some questions! I'm an aetheist, and this is the reason!

The Bible contradicts itself, especially in these ways:

God is all-forgiving, yes? Then how can we still be sent to hell? He forgives everyone, doesn't he?

God creates all things, all creatures, and makes everyone the way they are. He is clearly opposed to homosexual people and activites. If he doesn't like them, then why would he make them?

And, again, how can THEY burn in hell?

[Protosschick99]

Ender, you are my homie and I love you dearly--But your questions have already been asked in this huge quiz thing I believe. Besides, the Bible doesn't contradict itself because what you say is...lolz, wrong :P

God hates the sin--Not the sinner.

[Valjean]

Then why do people go to Hell?

[Protosschick99]

Because they choose to live in sin and not live right with God.

[Valjean]

Shouldn't God forgive them though? =/

[Vhaeraun]

God would forgive them only if they wish to be forgiven (where is the point in forgiving someone for doing something if they turn around and do it again?)

[Valjean]

What if they go to the gates to be judged? Shouldn't God forgive all their sins, if the people want their sins forgiven, if he's so forgiving?

[wraizyr]

Yes, and God does forgive, that's been our point, next question?

[Protosschick99]

God would forgive them only if they wish to be forgiven (where is the point in forgiving someone for doing something if they turn around and do it again?)
That's the point, God gives us grace. But when we repent we should strive to stay away from what we once did and move on by living with the love of Christ in our hearts. Only then will you grow and not be tempted like you were in the past.

[Valjean]

But if they didn't believe in him before I mean. If they see the fact that God is right infront of there face, instead of burning in hell, shouldn't the be given the choice to be forgiven right then and there?

[Carnage]

Way to play their game, PC. ^^

Pearls before swine. No matter what you say, you're wrong. :P

[Protosschick99]

But if they didn't believe in him before I mean. If they see the fact that God is right infront of there face, instead of burning in hell, shouldn't the be given the choice to be forgiven right then and there?
They've been given the choice all their lives. That's why we say, don't wait until it's too late. Man it hurts me when I see ppl wait until it's too late :(

[Valjean]

But we're never given definant proof down here!!

All I have is some person's word that God exists. If he gives me a sign, one that can easily be interpureted as a sign from God, then I'd start believing. But right now, all I have is your word.

If I saw God or Angels at the Pearly Gates, after I die, then I'd believe in God. I'd be enlightened, I'd know I was wrong and would humbly ask for forgivness.

[Protosschick99]

In Jesus Name I say that you'll be in the right place at the right time to recieve the gospel Werewolf!

Your eyes will be opened and you'll believe everything that I've been telling you! God is real and He wants to know you. You just have to have the want to to know Him.

I can help you but that's only if you recieve my help. I am a living testamony of God's existance. I was healed of my heart condition this month! I was supposed to die when I was born! That's what the doctor's said, but my mom said, "No in the Name of Jesus my daughter will live and NOT die!"

The enemy tried to take me out when I was born because he knows that I am a history maker for Jesus Christ :) The doctors couldn't figure out what happened afterwards. I just--Lived.

When I rededicated my life to the Lord, I got into a windsurfing accident. The mast hit me on the head and I fell in the water but I never got a concussion! I was even bleeding too! That mast is a huge metal pole! I had a bump the size of a golf ball on my head! As soon as I resurfaced from the water the first words outta my mouth were, "Thank you Jesus!!"

One time, I was in the car with my homie Ashley on our way to school last year in September. We were on the freeway coming aorund a blind turn going about 75-80 mph. As we come around the blind turn what do we see? A line of cars at a dead stop about 25 feet in front of us. My friend Ashley starts screaming at the top of her lungs but what do I do? I bust out tongues and start praying in the spirit! Ashley slammed her brakes on and guess what? We stopped in bare centimeters in back of that car.

I knew that was God because in the natural, we never would have been able to stop at the speed we were going in time. Never.

My life is a testamony Werewolf. I've overcome lots of things with the Lord that not too many ppl would have been able to handle.

[Protosschick99]

#1. Explain why your god's only son had to die so we can go to magic happy land when we croak.

Alrighty, it was prophesied that Jesus was going to come and lay hands on the sick and cast out demons and such, and then it was prophesied that He would die for us and have the burden of sin placed on His life so we can be like Him and have a closer relationship with God because of it.

All that Jesus' death for was to save us and bring us closer to God.

#2. Did everyone who died before Jesus died go to Hell? Justify your answer.

Alrighty, first off--It doesn't say in the Bible that everyone went to Hell before Jesus. The Israelites had a covenant with God and a whole grip of rules that they had to keep. All you gotta do is read The ending of Dueteronomy and pretty much everything in Numbers--All those books of the Bible are, are rules for the Israelites.

When they followed those rules, they lived without sin. And when they died, if they obeyed God and followed those rules, they got to enjoy heaven, if not--Well then, it's sad, but they didn't get to enjoy Heaven with their Creator.

More comes tomorrow after I get back from church! Now, I'm off to bed :P Be blessed ya'llz! :D

[Frattimonde]

One question I have.

What would happen if Jesus joined Lucifer?

[Protosschick99]

He never would. That's impossible. Because Jesus is God, God is Jesus, the Holy spirit is Jesus--Etc..You know--The Trinity.

God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are like water in all it's different forms. Gas, liquid, and solid :) They are the same element.

And, if Jesus joined Satan--The world would go to hell.

lolz, that sounds funny :P

[Valjean]

You just have to have the want to to know Him.

I DO want to know him, but I want to talk to HIM, and have him respond in words. Or, if not that, then use a "voice of god" angel thing to relay communication between God and I. And have him RIGHT INFRONT OF ME.

[wraizyr]

I DO want to know him, but I want to talk to HIM, and have him respond in words. Or, if not that, then use a "voice of god" angel thing to relay communication between God and I. And have him RIGHT INFRONT OF ME.
God should be my personal genie.
Fixed it for you. :)

In seriousness though, if God did that, it would remove any possibility of faith, something which God seems to value highly.The thing to remember here is that he is GOD, while you are you.No offense, but his authority runs a little higher than yours, he can choose on what terms he wants to meet you.To just pretend he doesn't exist because you don't happen to like those terms is simply immature.

[Valjean]

I don't like the current terms because without the terms I suggested, no one can give me any damn proof. I mean, like REAL proof.

And I don't want god to be my personal Genie. If I did, I'd tell him to get me a gamecbe or something. =P

[wraizyr]

I don't like the current terms because without the terms I suggested, no one can give me any damn proof. I mean, like REAL proof.
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/adam01.html


And I don't want god to be my personal Genie. If I did, I'd tell him to get me a gamecbe or something. =P
Yes you do, and you'd tell him to give you a Gamecube if he would actually be your little genie. :D

[Valjean]

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/adam01.html
Bah....So long. X_x

/me bookmarks page so he can read it later

/me then eats his oatmeal

[Protosschick99]

To just pretend he doesn't exist because you don't happen to like those terms is simply immature.He's only 12--He's still growing up wraizyr. That comment was unecessary and I find it irrelavent.

Werewolf, you'll find a PM from me coming to you soon :)

#3. If a Catholic, justify the Inquisition and other persecutions of "heretics" throughout the centuries, concentrating on why the Pelagianists, the Priscillianists, and the Manichaeans were persecuted; if a Protestant, justify the witch trials and the way that Protestants constantly hunted down native Americans until there were so few that the government could simply take their land; if a member of an Eastern Orthodox church, justify the persecutions of the Old Believers after the reforms of the seventeenth century.

Well, the closest group that I myself identify with would be Protestant. I'm Christian, non-denomination, so I guess that's the closest I can get :P

Anywayz! About the witch trials and such--I never agreed with those. I thought that they were stupid and just down right ignorant. If those ppl got into the Word--They would have realized that we are living in the New Testament times. Basically--We don't kill ppl for their sin, or because we believe that they are full of sin.

We love on them and turn them to the word. We don't slam them in the face with a Bible or persecute them--You think that's gonna turn them to God?? I think not!

Honestly I've been yelled at before by witches because of witch trials. Why? I dunno. But I guess it made them feel better to know that they yelled at a Christian over something that I had no control over because I wasn't even born yet, lolz.

As for killing Indians--I'm part Indian myself, and I always wondered why ppl got so scared of the Indians. They are awesome and resourceful ppl! Realy what happened was, there were a few agressive tribes, and those few aggressive tribes ruined it for those who were peaceful. The Protestants went after every indian they saw, without even thinking that those indians weren't even a part of the tribe that attacked them earlier.

I have no idea why early Americans killed the Indians. Only to take their land. It was really sad and I kinda have a two sided opinion about it.

#4. Explain why your sect (whether Catholic, Protestant, or Eastern Orthodox) pursued, tortured, and killed people who were not Christian.

Just like I said about the witch trial stuff--Those ppl were ignorant. They didn't have the word of God in them. The love of Christ was not dwelling within them. All they were were religious. And being religious is a bad thing.

Why? Because all you know how to do is tradition. And not spend time with God and His word and realize the error of your ways. All you think about is rules, rules, and more rules.

I never agreed with any of that stuff. It is unscriptural and sinful to kill someone because they don't believe in God or have different beliefs. And about those ppl who claim to hear from God and they go and kill those abortion doctors or whatever--That is NOT of God.

God does not tell us to go and kill ppl because they practice things that are against what we believe in. That is unscriptural! Those ppl need professional help and need to seek God and hear His voice, not what their imagination says.

#5. Explain why your sect (whether Catholic, Protestant, or Eastern Orthodox) pursued, tortured, and killed people who were not members of your particular sect.

See #4.

[Grom_Icecream]

No meaning to be too picky or anything, but im not sure if you are really answering the questions.....

#3. You didn't really justify anything, aside from saying people were killed because of ignorance.

Same occured in questions #4 and #5. Your reasoning implies that up till recent times christian sects have been ignorant (majority of members). The only real problem I have with this is that they had exactly the same information about christ and christianity as we do now. How can you assume that they were ignorant when they worked from the same basis we have now.

The only thing that has really changed to bring about the reduction of ignorance is social drift, and acceptance or new social norms. The supposed reduction of ignorance probably came because of this rapid social change that has occured recently (womens rights, childrens rights, all those kind of events). Ironically enought, the thing that brought about this change was the reduction of religion as the dominant social factor and the prominence or scientific methods.

Meh, keep going though, this is interesting stuff.

[Protosschick99]

No meaning to be too picky or anything, but im not sure if you are really answering the questions.....

#3. You didn't really justify anything, aside from saying people were killed because of ignorance.

Same occured in questions #4 and #5. Your reasoning implies that up till recent times christian sects have been ignorant (majority of members). The only real problem I have with this is that they had exactly the same information about christ and christianity as we do now. How can you assume that they were ignorant when they worked from the same basis we have now.

The only thing that has really changed to bring about the reduction of ignorance is social drift, and acceptance or new social norms. The supposed reduction of ignorance probably came because of this rapid social change that has occured recently (womens rights, childrens rights, all those kind of events). Ironically enought, the thing that brought about this change was the reduction of religion as the dominant social factor and the prominence or scientific methods.

Meh, keep going though, this is interesting stuff.
You're right, this is really good stuff :)

Well, first off--Yes, they did have the same resources--But they had no concept of how to grasp the Word like we do today. Christianity took a major step backwards back in those days.

All they were was religion--That was it. Nowadays, we have ppl who strive to be with God and go after His heart. We have ppl who hear from God and know who they are in Christ. We've got ppl who listen to the Holy Spirit and do what God tells them to do.

I'm one of those Christians. I've been taught properly in the Word and I can tell the difference of what is truth and what is not. Those ppl back in the day did soo not know how to live their lives for God. They thought that being a Christian was going to church and hearing a boring long and drawn out full of rules and tradition sermon.

They had no move of the spirit. It was just a bunch of tradition sadly--Those days never should have happened--But they did. Because ppl didn't know how to study their Bible properly.

Just you watch, in a few years, there is gonna be a huge revival and ppl are gonna realize that Jesus is the only way to live :) I'm telling you all now--Get ready! :D

[Grom_Icecream]

Hrmmmm..... I always assumed christianity was a religion. Are your saying you are not religious, but still a christian? Please clarify.

Anyway, what you say the recent emergence of people who truly listen sounds a bit like budhism. Those people have been working on the principles that first you must know yourself and know how to truly listen to the world around you and the world inside you. Yet, budhists have been doing this for a millenia or more.... These people knew who they were and knew what their gods said to them, they listened and had faith. Christians were aware of them, yet it is only now (so you say) that they seem to be looking deeper into life.

I am assuming that when you refer to yourself being able to know the truth of things, you are refering to truth in the bible and on christian matters....?

[singo]

does buddishim have gods...i thought that was the one where you seek "one-ness" with yourself and the universe?

I may be wrong



And what is a Hierophant?.........


I wont make an elephant comment here so as to avoid insulting people's beleifs

[Frattimonde]

And what is a Hierophant?........ I belive that "Hierophant", Is a sucicidal person.

That usually Is a member of a strange satanic cult.

Although I´m not entirely certain.

[Valjean]

Hrmmmm..... I always assumed christianity was a religion. Are your saying you are not religious, but still a christian? Please clarify.

Anyway, what you say the recent emergence of people who truly listen sounds a bit like budhism. Those people have been working on the principles that first you must know yourself and know how to truly listen to the world around you and the world inside you. Yet, budhists have been doing this for a millenia or more.... These people knew who they were and knew what their gods said to them, they listened and had faith. Christians were aware of them, yet it is only now (so you say) that they seem to be looking deeper into life.

I am assuming that when you refer to yourself being able to know the truth of things, you are refering to truth in the bible and on christian matters....?
Heh. So PC is like a Budhist who believes the word(s) of Christ and The Lord?

Not to mention there's probably less meditating involved with PC though. XD

Werewolf: Hey PC-

PC99: SHH!! I'm meditating.

XD

[hammocksleeper]

And what is a Hierophant?.........
It's an apologist, or an advocate.

(def. of advocate from Webster)
1. one that pleads the cause of another; specifically : one that pleads the cause of another before a tribunal or judicial court.
2. one that defends or maintains a cause or proposal

[Whiteknight]

God does not tell us to go and kill ppl because they practice things that are against what we believe in. That is unscriptural! Those ppl need professional help and need to seek God and hear His voice, not what their imagination says.
I just want to refute that one statement by saying that God told the Israelites to go and kill everyone in the villages. So, yes, he did tell us to go and kill people because they practised different things.

[Protosschick99]

Hrmmmm..... I always assumed christianity was a religion. Are your saying you are not religious, but still a christian? Please clarify.

Anyway, what you say the recent emergence of people who truly listen sounds a bit like budhism. Those people have been working on the principles that first you must know yourself and know how to truly listen to the world around you and the world inside you. Yet, budhists have been doing this for a millenia or more.... These people knew who they were and knew what their gods said to them, they listened and had faith. Christians were aware of them, yet it is only now (so you say) that they seem to be looking deeper into life.

I am assuming that when you refer to yourself being able to know the truth of things, you are refering to truth in the bible and on christian matters....?
Alrighty, first off--Christianity to me, is my lifestyle. It is a "religion", but you choose whether or not you wanna live it. Second, I'm not religious. I used to be--But now I am not.

You know what a religious Christian is? Those who tell you, "TURN OR BURN!!!" "YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL SINNER!!" "YOU'RE DEMON POSSESSED YOU HOMOSEXUAL!!!"

Those are religious ppl. All they know is rules and tradition. They don't know how to get in the Word and show the love of Christ. It gets me so upset when I see religious Christians acting stupid and then the media makes it look like all Christians are like that--No, we are not. Not all of us are religious.

As for Buhiddism....Where did that come from? lolz--That honestly caught me off guard :P We don't have the world inside of us. As soon as we ake Jesus Christ the lord of our lives, we become new in Him.

(I'll add more later--Mom wants me to get off :()

[LordAhriman]

Also--To all you other Christians on these forums who claim to be Christian but know that ya'llz have been living in sin--Don't try to minister to someone and answer back to pplz questions. How will God use you to minister if you don't even honor Him or live right? Dun even trip--Ya'llz know who you are.
No, you're living in sin, because the way I see it, God gave us life so that we might live it, not that we might spend it worshipping him. Of course, I don't mean any offense, because calling everyone a sinner because they don't interpret the Bible is apparently a viable argument here - it's exactly what you did.

[Protosschick99]

That post is irrelavant to this topic. I am not living in sin--Thank you very much! I live a clean life!

If you got in the Word LordAhriman, you would know that God wants us to worship Him--THat is one of the main reasons why we were created. Also, God gave us free will to do as we please. And what do I want to do? I want to worship Him.

Obviously you don't, so obviously you don't live your life for Him, which means--You obviously live in sin categorized by the Bible. So before you criticize me for something that you know nothing about--Get in the Word and know your stuff before you say something about the Divine Favor of God. I am God's anointed--Dog on me, and you get curses placed over yourself. No joke.

Treat me good--And you get blessed! There's no doubt about it :)

Also, I didn't call everyone a sinner. All I said in what you quoted was directed at Christians who think they are Christian but don't even live their lives for God.

(To a mod or admin, delete the post above mine, and if you find that mine must be deleted as well--Delete it too, thank you! :D)

[Grom_Icecream]

You can tell that I am atheist, so tell me PC, what will my fate be? I am almost certain that I will not become religious (or become a believer) at any stage, yet I try lead a good life and respect others and their opinions. Would I be punished solely for the sin of not worshipping "god"?

So you are a non-religious christian. Some would argue that this is impossible if only because of the definitions of the words. Maybe if you want to avoid many potential arguments you should re-label yourself, or make up a new denomination inside that of christianity. Save yourself a lot of hassles there, and probably a good way of converting other christians to your point of view as well.

You know what a religious Christian is? Those who tell you, "TURN OR BURN!!!" "YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL SINNER!!" "YOU'RE DEMON POSSESSED YOU HOMOSEXUAL!!!" .......I know many christians and challenge them often, i've never been hit with any of these lines though......

By referring to budhism I was just saying that the methods of deeper concentration and so called "listening" to the words of your god have been around for ages, yet you seem to say that it has only occured recently in the christian relm. I only stated that the words may appear Inside as when budhists claim to speak to their gods that they often feel a presence inside them.

[hammocksleeper]

I think you can be Christian and still sinful....in fact we are all sinners and we shouldn't deny it, even you PC, just strive for forgiveness.

[wraizyr]

You can tell that I am atheist, so tell me PC, what will my fate be? I am almost certain that I will not become religious (or become a believer) at any stage, yet I try lead a good life and respect others and their opinions. Would I be punished solely for the sin of not worshipping "god"?
If you choose to reject God, then, at death, you will have your desire fulfilled, life without God.That will be hell.

You know what a religious Christian is? Those who tell you, "TURN OR BURN!!!" "YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL SINNER!!" "YOU'RE DEMON POSSESSED YOU HOMOSEXUAL!!!"
re·li·gious ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljs)
adj.

1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.
2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text.
3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion to duty.
:confused:

[LordAhriman]

That post is irrelavant to this topic. I am not living in sin--Thank you very much! I live a clean life!

If you got in the Word LordAhriman, you would know that God wants us to worship Him--THat is one of the main reasons why we were created. Also, God gave us free will to do as we please. And what do I want to do? I want to worship Him.

Obviously you don't, so obviously you don't live your life for Him, which means--You obviously live in sin categorized by the Bible. So before you criticize me for something that you know nothing about--Get in the Word and know your stuff before you say something about the Divine Favor of God. I am God's anointed--Dog on me, and you get curses placed over yourself. No joke.

Treat me good--And you get blessed! There's no doubt about it :)

Also, I didn't call everyone a sinner. All I said in what you quoted was directed at Christians who think they are Christian but don't even live their lives for God.

(To a mod or admin, delete the post above mine, and if you find that mine must be deleted as well--Delete it too, thank you! :D)I was being sarcastic. I don't think anyone here is in any position to call anybody a sinner, that was my point. Sinners are murderers and rapists, not people who don't hold the same ideals as you. By the way, who's to say that I don't necessarily live my life for the Lord because I disagree with you? Or that a mod should censor my posts for the same reason?

[Grom_Icecream]

If you choose to reject God, then, at death, you will have your desire fulfilled, life without God.That will be hell.
Heh, its not a matter of rejecting a god. Its not like hes knocking at my door, and im telling him to go away. I have NEVER seen, heard, felt, smelled, thought of, or perceived in any way, convincing evidence that God(s) exist. Why would I reject anything.

Its also not like I desire to live without god(s). If there actually is a god, all well and good, but I am quite happy the way I am, and don't particularly want to change. You are arguing a very simple line. That if I do not believe in a God I will go to hell. I don't think it would be that simple.

[singo]

personally, im not going to decide anything..in the hope that if there IS a god he wont mind to much

im open to be convinced by a GOOD argument by either side however............