Toss vs Zerg early games *3 man d*

[Mere_reflection]

Well lately I told most of the people on the forum that I am breaking my habbit playing money maps, and i feel that Im doing a good job of it. But i have run into a problem in towards my success.

Protoss vs Zerg

Well lately, ive been playing with Zerg and trying to become more effect with them. (i dunno, its a habbit of me picking the worst/hated thing in video games, example SSB on n64, i play wit jigglypuff, i guess its a thing for me to use the worst thing to beat good players, kinda like 2 ruin their pride) Back on topic:

Ive been playng with zerg and i found out a problem trying to rush protoss, the protoss users has three zealots defending their ramp (on lost temple map). The six man zerg rush its useless agasint this in my hands, ive tried to get the lots off the ramp and on the lower terrian to surround them, of course the zerglings are still going to die even if i get the lots on lower ground but i usally have more lings on the way. But the lots dosent follow me on the lower ground. This stradegy really stops my rushes with the zerg and gives the toss player more time to build men/buildings. Does any1 know any good stradegy to get the zergling rush effective agasint the 3 zealots deffending their ramp?

[Hayley]

Well, you could build more lings, then put an overlord in their base, stack 3-4 drones on top of each other and tell them to go his minerals. Then when they're right on top of the zealots, you press stop, and it will make the zealots all go crazy, and then attack with lings. If they have 3 zealots by the time you have 6 lings, you might want to consider pooling earlier. If you 9pool, you should have 6 lings there before they have their second zeal, forcing them to use probes to hold their ramp :)

[poof]

"6 man rush" isnt some godly strat that will win all the time, contrary to what it seems 40% of the people here believe. Just to point that out.

[Twitt]

poof has the most gosu zvp, you should get tips from him.

[okplayer]

and twitt has the worst zerg ever, you should not get tips from him

[Mere_reflection]

"6 man rush" isnt some godly strat that will win all the time, contrary to what it seems 40% of the people here believe. Just to point that out.
You think i dont know that? Indeed a 6 man zerg rush wont win a game in pro players, you could get lucky with decent players though, and it would dvaste new players but if you can atleast kill off the workers before the zerglings die (no matter how skillful the opponent is) you can get an advantage in the mining operation, if they keep building men and you kill all there workers, than they will run outta money, with a few men thats about to die. So its still a good stradegy no matter if you dont kill them then.

[poof]

no, you wont get up their ramp.

[Twitt]

and twitt has the worst zerg ever, you should not get tips from him

This coming from the guy who muta/snares? :concern:

[Staind]

This coming from the guy who muta/snares? :concern:
This coming from a guy who doesn't really play BW? :)

[Twitt]

This coming from a guy who doesn't really play BW? :)

and can still beat gabe zvz =p

[thefazant]

werent you the guy who was too afraid to actually play people?

[Twitt]

werent you the guy who was too afraid to actually play people?

I'm sorry, do we really even know each other? Don't take this the wrong way, but until you know anything about me, don't comment on things you "know" via heresy.

[thefazant]

so there is some deeper lying trauma-like reason to you being a dodger?

[Mere_reflection]

Well thanks people, if they have some men defending their base i wont bother rushin ill gust get hyrdas.

[Twitt]

so there is some deeper lying trauma-like reason to you being a dodger?

That subject has been beaten into the ground, you can back off it anytime now.

[Spdstr]

Can't we all just get along? Anyway, being a dodger is someone who plays SC all the time and won't play when they're on, someone who doesn't have time to play IS NOT a dodger, they actually have lives, like most of us Map Makers and SC Players don't have... lol

Member,
~ Spdstr

[stev2711]

Can't we all just get along? Anyway, being a dodger is someone who plays SC all the time and won't play when they're on, someone who doesn't have time to play IS NOT a dodger, they actually have lives, like most of us Map Makers and SC Players don't have... lol

Member,
~ Spdstr
Tell me about it *LOL*

I usually play SC via FSGS but I just found out that their services has gone out of business. I guess I have no choice than to buy the original Battle chest pack from blizzard to obtain the original cd-key.

[Delta-Force]

go 2 hactery pool, then use make zergling harass then expand to natural, then use ur judgement from then on or watch this zvp rep

[Sambo83]

Twitt doesn't play people from BF because.... let me see.. "half of them are either bad manner, newbies, or have serious mental problems."

[Twitt]

Twitt doesn't play people from BF because.... let me see.. "half of them are either bad manner, newbies, or have serious mental problems."

= spam

Edit out both posts please....

[okplayer]

muta / snare > twitt

you can't deny it! i have proof!

[Twitt]

muta / snare > twitt

you can't deny it! i have proof!

I also have proof that its not > me. -_-v

Where do we go from here?

:smirk:

[Jorix]

from here we go to

zvz sucks and no one cares.

[okplayer]

zvz is best mirror matchup

[Jorix]

zvz is best mirror matchup
sure, if you like to play games that are, you know...gay.

[thefazant]

nah, tvt is the best mirror matchup, pvp and zvz are gay cuz comebacks are so hard.

[Twitt]

nah, tvt is the best mirror matchup, pvp and zvz are gay cuz comebacks are so hard.

Comebacks are easy in zvz.......

[okplayer]

not..

[Hayley]

Losing like 2 drones ZvZ is instant death :(

[stev2711]

Losing like 2 drones ZvZ is instant death :(
Really ? And could you tell me why that is ?

[okplayer]

its just the nature of the matchup

[Twitt]

I disagree completely. You don't have to win a fight in order to go ahead, you need to get some drones or a key structure. I'm not talking comeback like the guy has twice the econ you do, I'm talking comeback like you just lost a battle and he still has a decent amount of units. If you mass a bunch of lings quickly and manage to kill the hatch at his expo, or you go in and get the spire you can still come back. Maybe it's just the way I play, but I've found comebacks in zvz are the easiest.

[Hayley]

Clearly comebacks in TvT are the easiest, since everyone has like 20 expos. I guess it's debatable whether PvP or ZvZ is easier to comeback in, but it's really really hard to do in both, so it doesn't really matter :)

[Sambo83]

ZvZ is the easiest matchup to get lucky and win. Having 2 more ling than your opponent can win you the game.

[8882]

from here we go to

zvz sucks and no one cares.zvz is ok
much better than pvp IMO

ZvZ is the easiest matchup to get lucky and win. Having 2 more ling than your opponent can win you the game.
no.

[okplayer]

zvz is about luck when the two players know nothing about the matchup

[Keisuke-kun]

Man these forums get a lot of spam...

[thefazant]

Man these forums get a lot of spam...so?
you cant handle spam or smth?

[Shad0]

I dont look at ZvZ as a matchup in which you can easily get lucky and win.

I look at it as a matchup in which it's very easy to make a very minor mistake and lose the game.