Why is Protoss called a newbie race?????

[NiNjA-VaLkYrIe]

I don't get it. Please tell me why. argh... :\

[BSTRhino]

Where'd you get that idea?

[NiNjA-VaLkYrIe]

i keep hearing that

[assassin_666]

hey i know you i saw you on last night i was useing the name Roar(Raven and we were palying sniper type map small world after all :wave: and also to get on topic my personal opionon is that p is the best race for lower lvl players and team games but i think they do lack some in the games with higher lvl players

[Doombringer64]

Because they don't take as much micro as do Terrans, and not as much macro as do Zerg. Rarely do high level players play Protoss, but that may change. SC is an evolving game.

[RevolutiOn]

I don't think anyone thinks toss is a "newby" race, but I believe it is easier in some respects.

[Terran-Civilian]

i can see you like trigun assassin_666 good show{and about that whole toss being a noob race well the only reason i could thing of would be that you only need one drone to build everything} :ninjar: :ninjal:

[Lucifer_Hawk]

I guess all of you guys put on some good points there, personally, I choose Terran, and no other. So just go on saying protoss a newbie race, but leave my terran out of it!

[Scauthra]

If anything, Zerg is a newbie race. Make mass lings no micro << So simple -_-

There is no newb race. You need to micro your units no matter what race. Toss the most. 100 Minerals for a single unit, and just letting it die when you can save it, is newbie. But using micro makes you better than a newbie.

[Schwitzer]

You can tell a "Protoss newbie" when you see someone warping in a horrendous amount of Photon Cannons all over the place.

Personally, though, I think Terran is the newbie's favoured race. This could be due to the fact that Terrans are the first race you get to play in the campaigns, and also that they are easily the most defensive race (and let's face it, newbies like to castle).

[wraith_captain]

I don't think ANY race is a newbie race. People call the Terrans a newbie race, the Zerg a newbie race, and the 'toss a newbie race. Every racee is powerful if you handle it right.

[wraith_captain]

You can tell a "Protoss newbie" when you see someone warping in a horrendous amount of Photon Cannons all over the place.

Personally, though, I think Terran is the newbie's favoured race. This could be due to the fact that Terrans are the first race you get to play in the campaigns, and also that they are easily the most defensive race (and let's face it, newbies like to castle).And the Terrans are easy to get accustomed to, since the are humans. It's a little more comforting when you see a human face as opposed to a weird alien face.

[Valjean]

zerg is a better race for n00bs. =P

[G-Nemesis]

I don't think ANY race is a newbie race. People call the Terrans a newbie race, the Zerg a newbie race, and the 'toss a newbie race. Every racee is powerful if you handle it right.Every race has uber-noobs if handled wrong.
Protoss:-MASS CARRIERS
Terran:-MASS BATTLECRUISERS
Zerg-MASS GUARDIAN/DEVOURER

Just because you use these units doesn't make you newb though. Someone who goes for these tight off the bat, doesn't upgrade, builds the minimal tech needed, and just masses and masses them and ignores all else is a newb. You can take these, upgrade them, acompany them with a large group of any other unit, and you're not a noob in my opinion.

[Valjean]

Mass Hydra > mass guardian+devourer

^^

[assassin_666]

umm actualy no p is the easiest race for noobs to learn then z and last t and thast a fact

[Valjean]

are you fucking kidding me? they're the most expencive race in the entire game. O_o

and from what I sence from Bnet, n00bs have 0 patiance. O_o

[assassin_666]

have you ever even been on b.net

[Valjean]

yes...why? O_o

[Schwitzer]

umm actualy no p is the easiest race for noobs to learn then z and last t and thast a fact
Says who?

[Battlecruiser]

protoss is what people call a newbie race is because they ussually put a million photon cannon in frot of their base and do nothing else. ussually people start out with terran move onto protoss and then zerg because zerg is pretty complicated. then they move back to whichever race they liked the best.

[IceFlare]

Photon Cannon do jack shit. Tanks easily kill them. So do guardians and reavers. If its a team game... plague + emp = photon cannon rubble. Its a n00bie race imo bcuz of statis field recall and arbiter cloaking. Very rigged. Same with DTs permanant cloak.

[Battlecruiser]

umm no... it is because of photons. I am pretty sure that mewbies don't even know there is something called an arbiter and even more that they know what stasis field is. Trust me it is the photons.

[assassin_666]

i dont say that p is a noob race but its just a fact its a tad easier for players to play with them and win until you get to the higher lvl of play. i dont think we shouldnt take into consdieration what dumb things a person does with a race but how easy it is to learn and how easy it is for them to play at a decent lvl with that race

[Kamikaze_Chicken]

mass cannons??? wat about mass colonies or mass bunkers/tanks/turrents

[Schwitzer]

mass cannons??? wat about mass colonies or mass bunkers/tanks/turrents
Cannons can attack both air and ground. Although they're weak, this is all newbies think about, and hence they appear a lot better to them than do Bunkers and Turrets, or Sunken and Spore Colonies. Also, they don't have to worry about sending one SVC to build each structure, or sacrifice one Drone for each structure... they just get their little probe and warp, warp, warp.

Of course, I'm not saying that newbies don't exist for the other two races - heck, I still believe that Terran is more of a "newbie newbie" race. Newbies play all races, and on that I think we can all agree.

[NiNjA-VaLkYrIe]

argh, that clears it up thnx dudes

[CyberPunker]

I van say only that protoss is not newbie race. I din;t know why most ppl say that. I hate Stupid ppl who you stupid cannons for defence fro exxample i use Archons DArk tempelrs zealots reavers dragoons and sometimess scouts cor carrieers

[Modred]

Mass photons is definitely n00bish, as is most mass anything. I have found that p is easier to play once you get used to them. I can switch back and force between p and t fairly easily, but I have to play z for a couple of days before I can seriously compete with them. They're just so different.

[Staind]

Each race is equal skill level in playing. It just depends on your style which makes it easier/worse to play.

[pyrathian]

If i were to call protoss a newbie race, its because its so easy to survive with them. I find it eaziest to survive with terran my self. but when i first started playing starcraft the protoss were the most powerful and easily able to defend any other attacks.

[CODEZERO]

when i play on bnet or single player and im bein p 8 cannon at beginning thats all just to take care of the suh so i can build more me as terran buold marines and bunkers then get tanks and turret and comset me with zerg build creep colonies hydras mutas and some guard and devourers and ultras and defiler there is no newbie race it depends on how u use them and if u use them correctly then boom u win
ill make my self moe clearer
THERE IS NO FUKING NEWBIE RACE

[pyrathian]

mass photoning is VERY easy to do.

ever try massbunkering? you can only get 3 out before most of your entrance room is taken up, let alone the fact that your gotta fill them with marines firebats or ghost. its PAINful to mass bunker. thats why you useually only have 1 or 2 with 2 turrets some marines on the out side and a seige tank or two. i find that that works very well if you protecting a newly created base.

but its so easy to mass photon because there not as large you can build a hole line of cannons very quikly.

i find that some peaple like to only mass photon the entrance of there base, which is were the ground assault comes in, on the side of there base. MUHAHAHa

[Lord_Sirian]

At first I used to play Terrans soley. Even after I beat the campaign and went on to Bnet. I stopped playing for awhile and when i came back, i'm playing soley Protoss now. Can somebody tell me why? It's a mistery even to myself...

[Battlecruiser]

At first I used to play Terrans soley. Even after I beat the campaign and went on to Bnet. I stopped playing for awhile and when i came back, i'm playing soley Protoss now. Can somebody tell me why? It's a mistery even to myself...
no one can answer that except your self.

[Lord_Sirian]

If I wanted a vague response like that, I would have asked for it! You're telling me this hasn't happened to any of you before?

[Sambo83]

When people say protoss is a "newbie" race it's probably because you can get decent the fastest with protoss. It's easy to setup expansions, and you can be quite sucessful with protoss with pure macro. To get really good though, it takes as least as much effort as the other two races, maybe a bit more since protoss tech units move so slowly compared to their main force it is hard to manage your templar/reavers etc.

[Battlecruiser]

If I wanted a vague response like that, I would have asked for it! You're telling me this hasn't happened to any of you before?
wow... calm down... breath in... breath out... repeat if necessary. got it? good. I am pretty sure if that happened to anybody there was a reason for it and they know it. Maybe they just like protoss more or maybe they learnt a new strategy for it. Most people can remember why they do things and if you think their reason is yours well then there is always the chance it might not be. But you didn't know so how are we supposed to tell you the reason other than telling you ours? Read your subconciousmind?

[Ole-The-Murder]

Could be. Protoss don't have to be the newbie RACE, hell it's not restricted to any race, it's bullshit. Depends on what the newbie is playing, it has nothing to do with the race. Hell, the newbies play Terran - still newbie - play Zerg - still newbie. Play one race or another doesn't make anyone less or more newbie, the race is the same but not the player. Since if we followed that logic, then Protoss whould BOOM the expert race if a expert played it...it doesn't work that way, bro. And photon cannons need pylons to back 'em up. So just nuke the pylons, no problem. And hydralisks chow up them cannons. Bunkers need to have personell inside, so it's not that effective. Costs more?

[Duddits]

If i were to call protoss a newbie race, its because its so easy to survive with them. I find it eaziest to survive with terran my self. but when i first started playing starcraft the protoss were the most powerful and easily able to defend any other attacks.
Errrhmm... To kill a Protoss you kill its gas. End of story.

[BlueSkreen]

Like the Canadian Nazy said, All races are set to be an equal force. It's only a persons oppinion when you here them say "Toss is a n00b race." Maybe they suck at Toss..maybe they've been beating the hell out of players who cant play Toss greatly..Whatever the situation its all just an oppinion. Some people find it easier to play with Toss, some Zerg, and some Terran. Maybe a player who finds it too easy to play with Toss cannot defeat higher-level players with them because they do not play the correct strategy, or choose the correct strategy in order to achieve victory. So they're saying it's harder for themselves to play with Toss (or whichever race they made the comment about) in reality... Either way it's an oppinion. If you believe the races functions reflect on your personalty than fine. =) If you have the brains, then you can defeat your opponent no matter which race you are using and playing against...Blizzard set it up that way. So dont get offended, just set the ignorant p33ps straight who make silly comments. =D For me, Toss is easiest to use, then Zerg or Terran are meshed somewhere behind. It's just the way I think and use my "noggin".

[PhoenixNo13]

There are no newbie race in SC.
no more to say.

[Nahotnoj]

thats probably players who are sore losers and need an excuse for there loss, like "you were being gay!" and "you got lucky" or "i was going easy on you" another one: "It's not my fault i lost to a hacker". Dont listen to someone saying any race is a "newbie race".

[dmagus5152]

:concern: i think you guys are over reacting... all the races are the same, it's just a matter of opinion. my opinion is that protoss isn't a n00b race, it's just because people don't like it when someone whos playin protoss kicks their @$$. some sore loser started that rumor up, don't believe it. Some of the best players I know like protoss... it's like what BlueSkreen said, all the races are the same.

[GoatseS_BoxeR]

Protoss isnt a noobie race. It requires micro and macro maybe not as much as the other 2 but macro is a factor for being a good protoss because u need a good economy.
Protoss is probably called "NOOB" because too many people in money maps uses them just for their unit attack power. Or just wanna mass their cap ship/ carrier.
but overall many professional player play protoss.

[singo]

Erm...all races are the same???

what gave you that idea.

the words you will have been looking for are "All races are balanced"


and protoss aren't a "noob race" for the simple reason that a noob could not manage the economy enough to get the expensive troops.

[Maegtelluma]

People say that protoss is the newb race because of the trademarked carrier attack

"OMGOMG I'VE GOT A CARRIER! BOW DOWN TO MEEEEEEE"

But it really isn't. Anyone with half a brain knows that kind of attack doesn't work, so they have to micromanage. That's when all of the races become not newb.

[MinD_CakE]

well, i think maybe its because its the easiest race to play for beginners. But i think its the hardest race to fully master

[Noodlz]

Ahh i think i know why people call protoss a newby race. MAINly becu most NEWBS use it (more ezier to use due to teh fact of cannon rushes and the warp in u can ignore). but of course its nto ally newbie high templars are also important of course but more newbs use protoss becuz its ezier that is why its called newby race . yes sadly its true

[PhoenixNo13]

Newbies play all racesthat's right. They are "Newbies" and they want to know about all races.
So they can play all races.:) But have no Newbies race.
Many player use it because Protoss have strongest First units hehehe i mean Zealots.( They are too strong with Marines or Zergling, right? );)

[Noodlz]

well, i think maybe its because its the easiest race to play for beginners. But i think its the hardest race to fully master

Ill have to quote u on this i think terran is the hardest race to master mainly becuz terran cant stand up to a very big mass unless they wall of course which their ful is blown up by guardians but of course its ur opinion but i really do think terran is hardest to master

Anyways back to the point Newbies usually look at hp and atk only so well compare a marine to a z ealot (newbies dont tend to mass alot remember) so well of course 1 zealot would cream 1 marine

[Modred]

Ill have to quote u on this i think terran is the hardest race to master mainly becuz terran cant stand up to a very big mass unless they wall of course which their ful is blown up by guardians but of course its ur opinion but i really do think terran is hardest to master

Anyways back to the point Newbies usually look at hp and atk only so well compare a marine to a z ealot (newbies dont tend to mass alot remember) so well of course 1 zealot would cream 1 marine

I found that Terran was easiest to pick up on, but definitely hardest to master. I personally think Zerg is the easiest to master, with Protoss falling in the middle.

As has been said before, a lot of people assume Protoss players are newbies when 1)they attack with just carriers 2)they build photon cannons all over the map. The reason this lends itself to newbness is because neither requires any real strategy and is often easy to defeat.

[GiaDragoness]

Protoss be the newbie race? I always thought that every thought the terrans were the newbie race. But in retrospect, all the races have reason to be considered each.

The protoss, you can just amass cannons, zealots, and dragoons, and you can almost always find a newbie by looking for the ridiculously expensive carrrier swarm rush. However, you can tell a protoss pro by someone who uses high templar, arbiters, and the dark archon, for more than just his Mind control.

A terran newbie often bunkers up, with siege tanks, rarly expanding while going for a battlecrusier rush, even though he knows his opponent is a zerg player who is massing devourers, scourge, and mutalisk.. A professional terran knows that some terran infantry backed by siege tanks, a half dozen goliath on occasion, a science vessal or two, and then maybe a few cruisers, can be an exceptionally devestating weapon combo. You should also look for someone who knows when to bring medics along, and how many ships that player can lock down using ghosts.

A newbie Zerg will often mass up billions of lings, and about one forth, to about half as many hydralisk, if any hydras at all. Sometimes, a zerg newb wont even think about getting more than a couple sunkens. You can tell an experienced zerg player by how well they can use their difiler and queen's abilities, or what they do with and how they place their lurkers. You can tell them, by how well they manage a small pack of hydras in a stiuation.

Basicly, there is no newbie race, just newbie players. If someone masses up something and throws it at you, they are probably newbs. If someone takes up a few different packs of units, say ranged, melee, and spellcaster, one of each, they are intermediate most likly. If you see someone taking up a few mid range warrriors, spellcasters, and seige units, and manage to kill more than 1000 minerals/gas worth of damage without losing any units, you can tell they have at least a bit of skill.




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[Yommit]

generally because newbs use protoss because they are stronger than the other races. When they get going in starcraft they realize they may be wrong, it depends. Personally i like Zerg

[Spdstr]

I'd say Protoss is an advanced race in my opinnion :P. Just because they get off to a bad start, better players can bypass that part and then win in the end. Anyway, I only say someone using protoss is a unit on the CHOOSE YOUR OWN D maps, it's just dumb, all you do is keep stacking cannons on top of each other...

Member,
~ Spdstr

P.S. I use ZERG in CHOOSE YOUR OWN D, because I like making mazes XD

[dannyboy1011]

I don't get it. Please tell me why. argh... :\because they have shields and are easy to mess with.

[ShawnManX]

I'm a noobie zerg player, fast tech to cracklings and race to 200/200 supply with 12 + hatcheries spread out between 4-6 expos. But it's still funny to beat carriers with mass lings because you decimate their buildings so much faster.