Basic build TvP?

[own3d0406]

What's the BO vs Protoss if you're going to fast expand? :confused:

[anderoo]

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/174619

There's a build order archive for ya.
Ithink it's listed as 1 factory gundam, which is either a different name for it, or like, the exact same build.

[own3d0406]

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/174619

There's a build order archive for ya.
Ithink it's listed as 1 factory gundam, which is either a different name for it, or like, the exact same build.

Ahh, that's just what I was looking for, thanks.

Must spread more rep+ goodness

[mranderson]

Well a bo is nice, but you need to practice. Generally you can either go 14cc (har har), or add the cc on a ramped map inside your base while you add your mac shop to your single factory. It just works out that way I think, or you can add it after you start your tank, or after you start your siege mode also, it just depends on how safe you want to be, and the positions. Btw you're going to want at least 4 marines on a ramped map

If he goes fast dts though you're hosed :P

[neobowman]

Also, I think the build orders say 8 supply but you actually should go 9 supply. I think.

[PaiN]

if walling you go 8, if not you build with your 8th SCV (9/10) as close to CC as possible, although you will still wait 5 seconds or so for it to finish.

And you can either go seige or mine, which ever you prefer

[lammas]

but if you are planning any early pressure at all you dont go siege first (unless you are going to bunker push vs very early nexus but thats rarely a good idea) and then you can also do with only 3 or 4 marines (marine amount is varied by your fac timing and your opponents build. Typically 3 but if you have a little late fac and you are facing a sick player who goes 2gate you need 4 or even 5).

there are many quite basic builds for fast expansion. Most common is fdterran or fake gundam which is

9 suply

11 rax pump marines continously when rax is done. You should have 6 when your tank is ready (never 7, never 5)

11gas

16 fac take all scv out of the gas when you have 100

17 suply skip scv for faster second marine

when fac is 900/1250 put all 3 (or 4 depending on map and position) back to gather gas.

When suply is ready start second one right away.

Add on, when its ready start tank and mine upgrade.

suply around 28/34 or something

Move out with 1 scv 6 marine and a tank, then rally vultures to your forces.

Expand always directly to natural after moving out.

Siege upgrade (never vulture speed as the ggnet guy suggests, why on earth would one get vult speed here???)

Notice that the thing at ggnet called 1 factory gundam is not this build. 1 fac gundam he suggest there is something Ive never seen used and doesnt sound very good to me. And geez "1 Factory Fake Gundam [2 Gate Dragoon Counter]"? What? 2 gate goon is a counter to fake gundam, not other way around. And its not like you could ever counter anything with fdterran because you dont scout early enough to choose whether to 1 or 2 fac based on your scouting.