View Full Version : My queen! A cerebrate has terranized himself!
neobowman
07-18-2008, 9:32 PM
Kerrigan: curses. I should have employed the gender changes before this happened
Anyway, I'm trying to change my main race to Terran because I can't seem to get the Zerg timings in ZvT so I'd really just like to know the basic Terran build orders and the counters and I can just practice on my own from then on.
mranderson
07-18-2008, 10:11 PM
TvZ-(always build your first supply when your eighth scv finishes)
14cc :) Pretty self explantory
One rax, to cc, build a bunker with good placement and get marines going.
2rax->expo
1rax, ref, academy, ->expo
If your zerg opponent goes mutas, you should already have an academy with stim, start an ebay and pump rines. Place 4-5 turrets at each mineral patch and have those marines and medics hotkeyed (separetly for stim).
End game Terran you generally end with eight rax, 1 fac (or 2), and 2 starports (or 1 starport if you have 2 facs).
If they build a lot of lurks, build more bunkers, and when you see the enemy, unload stim, and reload. And 3-3 terran infantry owns unless they get mass ultras, and defilers up. Than you're sol unless they don't have plague for your vessels.
TvP-
Supply, rax at 11, or 13, and ref at 13. You can than pump rines, and always add a macshop immediately unless they do a zealot rush you can't hold off against. Build a factory (if your rush factory, build before your fifteenth supply, or build it after you start it. You can generally go one fac ->expo (very easy on maps like python with a ramp. Just build your cc at the ramp, and have tanks sieged at top). Pump tanks and than upgrade mines, and your play will vary from there. I'll wait for someone else to post, or you can find some gosu replays.
Always the bionic build though, woot!
TvT-
Generally you want tanks as fast as you can, and two bases. Set up a contain, and get dropships. Really hard to explain though, but basically you can go fast cloaked wraiths, or go for a quick drop, or all tanks. Scouting is very important in this mu because if you have 20 tanks, and they go wraiths you're sol.
Basic stuff though. Watch a few reps before you go from anywhere though.
anderoo
07-19-2008, 9:47 AM
Kerrigan: curses. I should have employed the gender changes before this happened
Anyway, I'm trying to change my main race to Terran because I can't seem to get the Zerg timings in ZvT so I'd really just like to know the basic Terran build orders and the counters and I can just practice on my own from then on.
How highly ranked are you in iccup? I find that at the D ranks timing goes pretty much out the window because no one is really following builds that closely, and as long as you macro better than the othr guy it's a garunteed win. I'd stick with zerg still...
neobowman
07-19-2008, 10:17 AM
No really, I'm even at D rank. When I'm playing against my friends, I generally do fine but against iccup players, I do strangely bad. I'll get replays of both and you can check if there is a difference. It might just be that my friend isn't that good either but I'm not sure.
anderoo
07-19-2008, 10:33 AM
No really, I'm even at D rank. When I'm playing against my friends, I generally do fine but against iccup players, I do strangely bad. I'll get replays of both and you can check if there is a difference. It might just be that my friend isn't that good either but I'm not sure.
Maybe it's just your mindset? When I play against my real-life friends I rape them horribly because I'm confident and relaxed, whereas on iCCup I play worse because I am a bit more cautious and unsure of what's going to happen.
It also is that if you've never played online against other players even a D iccup player can seem good.
As for terran never get supply blocked, keep SCV's pumping, scanners to check for opponent expoes. One of the main things I find is to harrass and keep your army moving. Its very easy once you grab your natural to just sit back and macro, you want to be moving your army around the map, engaging, stopping expansions, etc.
And for TvP adding on to what Mr.Anderson said I like to go
9 depot (your 8th SCV builds it right when he pops from CC)
12 rax/12 ref (If starting rax/refinery at same time and then getting 3 scv's on gas instantly you should have 100 gas right when rax finishes)
Then either cut SCV's/Marine and get fac ASAP or get it a little later, depends on your playstyle.
6 rines to ramp 1 fac into FE
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neobowman
07-28-2008, 11:56 AM
Phew, Finally Warboards is back up. Just want to post replays so that you can see the difference between play against my friends and on bnet. I was playing Terran in both cases. Anyway, I got the replays now. Going to post it.
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