Hittin' the new ladder

[GroG]

Just wondering, anyone else playing melee since the patch/reset? There's 4 new maps and lots of people playing (hell, I saw GA on last night, got a kick out of that).

So far I'm 1-0 solo, 3-0 RT. Been doing DK/CL ghoul/fiend/wyrm, been working out well for me.

What about you?

[Jehuty]

I'm still playing. Looking for a training partner.

[cole]

games a joke but ive been playing again a bit. 7-3 solo, 2-2 ffa. i disced in ffa...gay. The other loss was to the typical tower engine expo newb.

[Jehuty]

Maby its because you suck? Just because a start works doesn't mean its newb. Seriously all races have a decent counter to mass tanks.

[Dayoh]

Well, i was playing an RT. It was a 3v3 to bust me in (i havent played in ages).

Anyway, we were all Und we tried a ghoul rush. Now im not blaming anyone but when its a ghoul rush in 3v3 you go all out so i have a full group of ghouls the allys have like 5.

Anyway, the rush was more of a harrass lol. Mid game i went necs/ghouls/wagons. My base was hit we lost now here is the scarring i had like 7 ziggs (roughly), two of which were Cold i upgraded the rest to the norm (i scouted them). Im getting verb bashed by the enemys "fuck u twring nub get outta me game", now just before mid game i circled pretty much all of their heros. And i still get bashed like wtf WC3 sux

[cole]

Maby its because you suck? Just because a start works doesn't mean its newb. Seriously all races have a decent counter to mass tanks.

LOL kid do you want to play me? Ive ranked in the top 20 at least once in every game type in wc3. What about yourself? Yea exactly. I 4-0 smurf ffas just for the hell of it, MASSING NOTHING BUT ENGINES AND TOWERS AND EXPOS.

So if you want to talk shit, then show me your almost half decent. I just started back again after not playing for a very long time but i guess i warmup on a newb like yourself.

All races have a decent counter to mass tanks? Yea, not before they completely destroy your base in ffa. The only race that counter mass tanks effectively is ironically hu.

edit- 4-3 ffa now. i lose to dumb stuff but i guess thats the beauty of ffa. And in fairness last patch i was only rank 110 solo or some crap like that before i quit playing.

[GenocideAlive]

Actually Orcs do really well against Mass Tanks. Dual Beast Raiders drop them like a bad habit. I find that typically it's UD and NE that are screwed with them, as they can only do a screwy Necrowagon type strat or try to mass Chippo.

I do laugh at Dayoh's story, though. That sounds like the WC3 that we all know and love. :D

[cole]

ouch im 6-5 ffa now, after losing twice to thegreatzohan who is rank 14.

man i hate that guy.

And the problem with engines vs orc is if you mass raiders to counter engines then that leaves you vulnerable to other players in ffa.

but why would you chippo vs mass engines? O.o. Actually surprisingly in ffa NE CAN do well vs engines if you build your expos right next to trees and you uproot and surround your tol with wisps/trees then maybe take care of them with a little ff/panda. But still thats easier said than done, and tanks are so cheap for being so effective.

Ud is pretty much screwed vs them. Orc cant do too well vs them. Ne usually cant. Hu has few pretty damn good counters.

But in ffa once you get mass teleport, have a critter at every expo, and have tanks, its pretty much over. You can mass tp to an enemys expo, destroy the shit there while he uses his tp, then mass tp to the next or his main and he has to ues another tp or walk which by then that base is gone.

mass tp is pretty fucking gay in ffa. Its hard to notice one small little critter at your expo when your concentrating on 3434 other things.

[Prozerran]

mass tp is pretty fucking gay in ffa. Its hard to notice one small little critter at your expo when your concentrating on 3434 other things.

Yeah, it's really gay when you have invisible knights that you can TP to and they don't become VISIBLE. Yeah, that little exploit becomes VERY annoying, because how are you going to kill a knight before an entire army TP's in on it?

Critters may be gay, but TPing to Invisible Knights? That's broken.

And that's why I play Hu in FFA :P

[GenocideAlive]

Well, it's mostly Chimerae that you mass, but you get hippos in just so you don't get your shit packed in the event that something else nasty comes along. You mass the Chims because they have a huge footprint and deal terrific damage from a distance. Once they start smashing a Tank, the Tank can stop and try to Barrage, but it's very ineffective because the splash is largely negated by the Chims spreading out (due to their footprint).

It works best if you've got a Bear nearby so you can Roar them right before you send them in. That damage bonus is huge on Chims. Micro is easy because they've got 1000 HP and no real way to lose it quickly. Your biggest issue would be having them run in with Hawks and shackling your Chims, but that's fairly resource and food intensive to pull off. A basic army of Tauren would raze their base in a matter of AoE spell damage moments.