ScmDraft's not working!!

[Dem0nS1ayer]

I'm making a new map, and whenever I try to open it, the "Error Opening Map" message comes up and I know that the map isn't protected. Also, whenever I try to save any map, ScmDraft crashes. :concern:

[KillerKow]

Do you (did you) have any other programs doing anything with the map? Ex. If you're testing the map in StarCraft at the same time.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Nope, no other starcraft program was running. Also, whenever I close scmdraft, I get the "Something bad happened, want to save a diagnostic file?" message.

[BlademasterSlsh]

Hum... what version are you running? Maybe find a more up-to-date version and install that?

[Dem0nS1ayer]

I'm using the latest version of 0.8.0. Twitch gave me this version and it was called ScmDraft 2.0B, or something like that.

[BlademasterSlsh]

Try downloading/re-downloading from here:
http://www.stormcoast-fortress.net/downloads/scmdraft2ZIP/

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Just downloaded it, and same problem.

[Twitch6000]

Mind submitting the map?It may just be the map.Or you could try opening the map in xtra editor then opening in scm draft.

[SilverCrusader]

I've had this error before. You have to reinstall StarCraft and SCMDraft.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Reinstall Starcraft?! :o That's not cool...

EDIT: Zomg I reinstalled Starcraft and SCMDraft 2, but still nothing! SCMDraft crashes whenever I click on save!

[Durandal]

So this happens to all maps you open?

And you're sure that this particular map wasn't just randomly corrupted, which often happens when running SCMDraft?

[Twitch6000]

I have a feeling you have a virus or spyware causing this issue.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Well I know that one of my map was corrupted, because I couldn't even open it or host it on b.net, but whenever I edit any map, it randomly crashes.

And yeah, I probably have like a billion viruses on my computer. I have to reboot it sometime... :concern:

[ForTheSwarm]

Can't you just use some anti-virus program?

[Basan]

Can't you just use some anti-viurs program?

Like AVG or Avast!. And then I also advise ya to get and run SpywareBlaster, SpyBot and Ad-Aware. *Wink, hint*

[Dem0nS1ayer]

I've tried to run my anti virus program, but my computer always freezes up so I have to close it. I'll try those spyware programs Basan.

[Basan]

The problem might be that your AV isn't up to date any more - either it being in AV database or in its engine, it really doesn't matter - and thus the virus is able to lock the program up when it's trying to run to get rid of it. See what program version and which is the AV DB version you've got and eventually post it here so we can help you out if it requires such. ;)

[Twitch6000]

IF you can go to bit defender.com and run their online scan.That will get you somewhere.Then if you can delete your current anti virus and get bit defender 10 free or Nod32.

[BlademasterSlsh]

I had a similar virus a few weeks ago. The way I nailed it was I used the Anti-Virus to scan most of my files, and then on the directory that the Anti-Virus froze on I switched over to the "Search" feature in Windows in that directory. That froze on the same file that the Anti-Virus did, and from there I proceeded to send it to the recycling bin. Restart the Anti-virus search and it came back clean.

[NoobOfLore]

Quite honestly dem0n, I think you need a new computer.

[Twitch6000]

Quite honestly dem0n, I think you need a new computer.
Now why would you say that?You know nothing of his specs and yet you just randomly say that?I think if you do not know what you are talking about do not post at all ok?

[TitanWing]

Is there an update available? Maybe if you get the latest version (assuming there is one) it'll work again.

Back in the day, I'd probably have your solution by now, but I've slipped away from SC.

[ForTheSwarm]

Lol wow I think my computer's worse than that (256 RAM) and it still worked for me.

It's part of Dem0n's system specs.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

zomgzomzgomzgomzgomg i ran a virus scan and i apparenly have over 1400 infections (w/e the hell that means)!! my computer has been freezing up forever and i needa reboot it but I needa save all my files. none of my cds are working and I can't send folders through my email!! zomgozmgozmgomzogmgom i'm gonna die!!

[ForTheSwarm]

WOW! 1400!!!! The virus scan program should be able to uninfect them though. If it can't or it freezes, put all the important files on a USB thingy.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

mwahahaha i put them into rar files and uploaded them onto savefile! whooo! :D

[Basan]

WOW! 1400!!!! The virus scan program should be able to uninfect them though.

Frankly, it depends of the virus itself. I've had viruses that didn't allowed me to clean the file and thus leaving me only with the option to delete all the infested files.

If it can't or it freezes, put all the important files on a USB thingy.

And just recall to use that USB pen right away on another computer if it hasn't an updated AV and not previously scanning the pen prior to its use. Obviously, the same goes for any downloaded files. :P [/sarcasm]

Quite frankly Dem0n', just get a new AV if you can't update that one to a recent version and then clean that virus colony PC of yours. :rolleyes:

[Twitch6000]

this is a perfect time to reinstall windows now lol.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

yeah i know i tried all of yesterday to save my files but it wouldn't work and now it's finally working woohoo!

[ForTheSwarm]

So did you reboot the computer yet? And if you did, are the viruses gone and does SCMDraft work now?

[Loser]

In speaking of scmdraft, I can't find the "Disable Doodad State" trigger anywhere. Doesn't it have it? I can't use X-tra Editor like starcraft.org recommends (I'm pretty much trying to do the thing in this tutorial http://www.starcraft.org/maps/MappingTutorials/Making+cloaked+bunkers+buildable+like+in+Turret+D with pylons instead of bunkers in order to simulate the Temple of Death burning down after you defeat the evil life fanatic) because you can't use two different editors to work on the same map (or can you?).

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Disable doodad state is part of the "Set Doodad State" action. And no, I haven't rebooted my comp yet. I'm still saving the music. :P

[ForTheSwarm]

you can't use two different editors to work on the same map (or can you?).

Sure you can. I use SCMDraft for stuff StarEdit can't do, and StarEdit for everything else because I like the format better.

[Loser]

Thanks... wow I'm dumb, how did I not see that... anyways good luck with saving your computer's life from the evil viruses :concern:.

EDIT: Starcraft crashed when I tested the map. How do I stop this?

[Dem0nS1ayer]

figure out why it crashed. :P

[Loser]

It crashed because I used the Diable Doodad State trigger on pylons. I know it was because of that because it didn't crash when I removed that trigger. Interestingly enough, the same trigger on bunkers does not make the game crash (although it doesn't make them invisible like the tutorial said), however, Toggle Doodad State will crash if used on bunkers. I think it may be different for each structure/unit/whatever.

[Durandal]

It is. You could have just consulted an reference on Staredit or Maplantis that tells you what units can be disabled and what units can't. The only disableable terran buildings are the Bunker and Engineering bay. The pylon can't be disabled because it's the one that enables buildings; other Protoss buildings that feed off the pylon can be disabled and enabled (I believe the Nexus can't be disabled).

Most infantry units can be disabled but not enabled. Tanks are commonly disabled as well, in defense maps, due to the fact that it renders the tank immobile but still able to fire. Here is just such a reference that I was talking about;

http://www.staredit.net/maplantis/index.php?sid=6ca5875e17;wiki=91

[Loser]

Ah, thanks, that makes sense. I'll just use another suitable protoss building since pylons don't work... by the way, why is it that almost all zerg stuff crashes the game? Is it something about being zerg?

EDIT: The guide is slightly off. Stasis Cell/Prison thingies crash the game, but it said that they would just cloak. Meh, I should be able to find something for the job that doesn't crash...

EDIT2: What's the limit on locations? I'm going to need a lot of them =(.

[Twitch6000]

It is. You could have just consulted an reference on Staredit or Maplantis that tells you what units can be disabled and what units can't. The only disableable terran buildings are the Bunker and Engineering bay. The pylon can't be disabled because it's the one that enables buildings; other Protoss buildings that feed off the pylon can be disabled and enabled (I believe the Nexus can't be disabled).

Most infantry units can be disabled but not enabled. Tanks are commonly disabled as well, in defense maps, due to the fact that it renders the tank immobile but still able to fire. Here is just such a reference that I was talking about;

http://www.staredit.net/maplantis/index.php?sid=6ca5875e17;wiki=91
Ah yes but thats also outdated as there are new ways to do the disable enable enable trick.

Touchpadmaster was the one who first used it.

How it goes is like this-
Disable
wait
Enable
wait
Enable
wait
order
wait(optional I did it cause it crashed randonmly without it)
give
move

For more on how this trigger works look at my Total Invisible Defense map or Invisible Wars made by Touchpad Master.

[Loser]

The site he gave me is working fine except for the innacuracy I mentioned earlier. You can do some pretty neat-lookin' stuff with this effect - the cloaked shield battery for example, keeps the little glowing lights it has when it's cloaked. It kinda screamed "water fairies of healing power" to me =). And it also says that marines can be cloaked with this effect, I'm going to try that one too...

[Twitch6000]

The site he gave me is working fine except for the innacuracy I mentioned earlier. You can do some pretty neat-lookin' stuff with this effect - the cloaked shield battery for example, keeps the little glowing lights it has when it's cloaked. It kinda screamed "water fairies of healing power" to me =). And it also says that marines can be cloaked with this effect, I'm going to try that one too...
That maybe so but the llink he gave you is only for disable enable enable there is a difference.
Heck the one with waits order give and move sometimes change if you can see the unit or not.I have basically found out almost every unit can be cloaked somehow someway.Or atleast stacked.

[Loser]

Er, I didn't quite understand what you said, but the marines apparently can't be attacked and can't move when disabled... hmm... we have out statues for the ghost museum I suppose =D.

[Twitch6000]

Er, I didn't quite understand what you said, but the marines apparently can't be attacked and can't move when disabled... hmm... we have out statues for the ghost museum I suppose =D.
Ahh but you are wrong see woith disable wait enable wait enable wait order wait give move he can be cloaked and be able to walk :P.
You have alot to learn young one =].

Edit: this map should clear up what I mean :).
http://www.savefile.com/files/1635722

[Loser]

Ok thanks, I didn't understand most of what you said but the map file showed me what I needed to do =D. So I CAN have the Phantom Archer o' Doom without modding =D.

EDIT: How many locations am I able to have? I'm having this feeling that I'm going to have to scrap my miniboss if it's anywhere under 200-something... and I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in the 60s =(.

[Twitch6000]

Well for vailla starcraft(starcraft original)Yu can only have 65 I think.
For starcraft broodwar however you can have 255 locations.
Plus with if you know how to reuse locations it can be about as many as you need.

[Loser]

Ok hopefully 255 is enough... should be unless I come up with more ideas =P. Heh, this disable enable enable trick is amazing, why don't I see this in maps on b.net all the time?

EDIT: Is this list on what crashes the game and what cloaks and such the same as it is with just disabling or can your trick be used on anything? I noticed that the list for disabling said that, for example, disabling zerglings would crash the game, but I remember a zergling blood map in which the zerglings were permanently cloaked. Is this how the guy who made that map did it?

[BlademasterSlsh]

I'm remembering some glitch that allowed you to make permanently cloaked Zerg units using burrow and an Arbiter... I wonder if he just made a few triggers to do that for the computer...

As for Battle.net, it has it's places. I saw a disabled marine in a map ages ago, and disabled bunkers make a regular showing in Defense maps. And I know I've seen a Disabled Barracks before (I believe it provided the tech requirements, but couldn't lift off). I'm sure its for the same reason you don't see very many visible Dark Templar :) (If you want to know what I'm talking about, hallucinate a DT in any game. The trick is finding a way to make it attack)

[Durandal]

EDIT: The guide is slightly off. Stasis Cell/Prison thingies crash the game, but it said that they would just cloak. Meh, I should be able to find something for the job that doesn't crash...

That's because the guide was made for an older version of Starcraft. Versions change, and so do their memory locations, and thus so do the effects that you get from disabling them, among other things.

Whenever I tried to enable some units, I always crashed the game. Twitch, do you know if it's possible to get a disabled unit to play its walking animation while remaining disabled/immobile?

I'm remembering some glitch that allowed you to make permanently cloaked Zerg units using burrow and an Arbiter... I wonder if he just made a few triggers to do that for the computer...

It's possible, but trying to replicate a glitch with triggers is a terrible, terrible idea. The amount of precise timing and troubleshooting required to get it to work would just be off the wall.

[Twitch6000]

EDIT: Is this list on what crashes the game and what cloaks and such the same as it is with just disabling or can your trick be used on anything? I noticed that the list for disabling said that, for example, disabling zerglings would crash the game, but I remember a zergling blood map in which the zerglings were permanently cloaked. Is this how the guy who made that map did it?
MY map that I made for you has all the answers =p.
Also Oo.Icy.oO and I are making a map that takes this trigger to its limits <.<.

[Loser]

Ok, just don't enter it into the contest. You'd win for sure =P.

EDIT: Twitch, your trigger doesn't work. It works in your map just fine but I made one just like it in my map to test it and it doesn't work. http://www.mediafire.com/?gt1nmgebygc
Unless it didn't save properly or something, it's exactly like your trigger, except that I used player 8 instead of player 7.

[Twitch6000]

Ok, just don't enter it into the contest. You'd win for sure =P.

EDIT: Twitch, your trigger doesn't work. It works in your map just fine but I made one just like it in my map to test it and it doesn't work. http://www.mediafire.com/?gt1nmgebygc
Unless it didn't save properly or something, it's exactly like your trigger, except that I used player 8 instead of player 7.
Don't use mediafire please it hates me and I hate it :p.Next time use savefile thanks =].
Anyways I looked at the map and you said give at anywhere and move at anywhere.
You have to use a certain location or else it will just won't work.

[Loser]

Still didn't work. Seeing that you used anywhere in your map, I don't think that's it. And I've never heard of this "savefile" you speak of.

[Twitch6000]

Still didn't work. Seeing that you used anywhere in your map, I don't think that's it. And I've never heard of this "savefile" you speak of.
savefile is a file host like mediafire but instantly gives the file.
and i fixed the trigger by doing what I said :p.
http://www.savefile.com/files/1637722

[Loser]

Er... well, I managed to figure it out. It had absolutely nothing to do with what you said. It was actually something to do with the map revealers I had and that you had the trigger in a different order or something like that... bah, I don't care why it works, I just care that it does =P.

EDIT: I have successfully made a permanently cloaked zergling! YAY! I'll remember that if I ever work on my old zergling blood map. (Ultralisks, on the other hand, appear to crash the game)

[Dem0nS1ayer]

HALLELUJAH, MY COMPUTER IS FIXED!!!! Wooohoooo!!

[Loser]

YAY! =D

By the way, how's your map going? Better than the one I'm working on I assume =).
If you want I can attempt to help you a little if you need anything, nobody else seems to mind helping other contestants when they need something so it's logical for me to behave in the same manner. =D

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Oh yeah... I haven't started my contest map...heh... :P

I'm too busy with making Oo maps... =\

[Loser]

Uh, we have a problem here. I've gotten the cloaking to work and all, but now... the building is all glitchy. For some reason, probes and scvs build damaged buildings, scvs repair really fast, and zerg buildings are incapable of finishing (it stops right before it would normally be done).
http://www.savefile.com/files/1637797

PS: Ugh, I absolutely hate savefile... why should I have to give my file a title and discription along with typing a security code to upload a file...

[BlademasterSlsh]

Uh, we have a problem here. I've gotten the cloaking to work and all, but now... the building is all glitchy. For some reason, probes and scvs build damaged buildings, scvs repair really fast, and zerg buildings are incapable of finishing (it stops right before it would normally be done).


If you figure out the damage thing, let me know. I've seen it on a map I've just been using to test mods WITH NO TRIGGERS! I can't figure out what in the world causes it...

[Twitch6000]

Uh, we have a problem here. I've gotten the cloaking to work and all, but now... the building is all glitchy. For some reason, probes and scvs build damaged buildings, scvs repair really fast, and zerg buildings are incapable of finishing (it stops right before it would normally be done).
http://www.savefile.com/files/1637797

PS: Ugh, I absolutely hate savefile... why should I have to give my file a title and discription along with typing a security code to upload a file...
save file just does that for description reasons.
Anyways your problem lays within the build times.

[BlademasterSlsh]

Wait, so a build time of 1 make a building build with damage? Hows that work?

[Twitch6000]

Wait, so a build time of 1 make a building build with damage? Hows that work?
because it does not have enough time to generate its full health.I cannot fully explain it like others can though.

[Loser]

Ok thanks, got it fixed =). Also having trouble getting a transmission to play for one of the heroes but I think I should be able to fix that one...

EDIT: Is there a way I can disable doodad state without assigning a location to each thing I want to disable?

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Maybe if you just create a huge location around the whole map.

[Loser]

Ok, this is wierd...
Conditions:
Whatever you want ( inclued this in the "move"/"tellaport" trigger of the building )

Actions:
Disable 1 Terran Bunker for Current player at Bunker 1
Remove 1 Protoss Nexus at Stack for player 8
Move 1 Terran Bunker for current player at Bunker 1 to Stack
Preserve

- http://www.staredit.net/maplantis/index.php?wiki=92

That doesn't make sense... you can't disable more than one thing at a time (you need to make a location for each thing you want to disable or else it doesn't work for some reason)...

EDIT: Ok, I figured out that the amount of nexuses I have in the stacking location determines how many bunkers will go there. But there's a problem: When I get too many nexuses (and that amount is under the number of bunkers I have), the bunkers don't fire from their original location anymore. How do I fix this?

[Dem0nS1ayer]

you should make a new thread about your problems.

[Loser]

I did, but this is the thread where people are answering my questions :P.
http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=36275&page=3 :)