Char on starcraft2.com

[apostolos]

http://starcraft2.com/features/planets/char.xml

The link above shows the 1st planet that Blizzard gives details,the well known planet Char.It provides us with some useful background information.

EDIT: www.starcraft.org beat me :(

[WhatIsStarcraft]

Well, the info is great, but the only thing that is a little weird to me, is that the article says the planet has 40% of its underground covered with tunnels of nydus worms, or something like that. Later it says that enormous lakes of lava is created because of the elliptic course of Char, in relativity to the twin stars, and such.

[ForTheSwarm]

Not nydus worms, just tunnels. Lakes don't have to be super deep.

[SilverCrusader]

You hear that, 10,000,000,000+ Zerg, just on this single planet.

Ouch.

[WhatIsStarcraft]

We'll have to toast some serious zerg to get the population down, and I can't wait to begin!!

Seriously, though, I wonder how the population of the zerg, terran and protoss are, and that the count would be soldiers, and not civilians, although the zerg really don't have a civilian population.

[apostolos]

Seriously, though, I wonder how the population of the zerg, terran and protoss are, and that the count would be soldiers, and not civilians, although the zerg really don't have a civilian population.The Zerg are mostly soldiers,but the drones could be considered civillian population since they don't fight at all.

[ForTheSwarm]

They do when there's a bunker rush. :)

[Protogod]

well all you need to do is get some toss close enough to the planet to where they can just purge the whole thing like chau sara

[DarkMirror]

Your saying that they should blast the highly radioactive, molten deathrock with high-radiation beams that punch through the crust into the core and turn planets into molten deathrocks?

[ForTheSwarm]

That's never going to happen. As soon as the Protoss get there, mass scourges/mutas/other zerg air will rush them, while saying kekekekeke.

[Lithium]

Nice read. Thanks for the link.

Est. 10,000,000,000+ zerg

>=D

[Basan]

What I find astonishing is that Char was portrayed as an initial Terran colony and not a Zerg one from the get go (a thing which I believe to be more accurate according to SC lore if not mistaken).

[Protogod]

Yes, basan, for some reason i recall char being a homeworld to the zerg, which would make a terran presence there surprising.

[masterofhobbiton]

Char is NOT the zerg homeworld, Zerus is. I think you're remembering the time when the UEN calls Char the zerg homeworld, but they only arrived in the sector after Char was the main zerg base and had the overmind there, so they couldn't have known better.

It does contradict with the lore though. They make a big deal of Raynor remembering details from his visions of kerrigan to come up with traits of the unkown planet that Kerrigan is on, which Matt enters into a search engine thungummy he made to find potential matches. He describes it as having:

-warm, though not unbearably so
-ash filled 'sticky' air, with lots of sulfur and oxygen
-2 purple moons half the size of Mar Sara's
-has normal gravity
-next to a red planet as big as tarsonis with rings
-covered with ash, lots of fire and smoke

And Horner finds 3 results, and Raynor picks one and they go there. They don't know its name or anything. From it's description it's pretty habitable, so it could be a core world. But it's far away, and they didn't know its name or that it existed or anything. I know it's just from a book, and those usually aren't very accurate at all, but they way SC2 disregards previous info, and since this didn't contradict anything that came before it, I'd say it's more reliable than SC2.

[Protogod]

Yeah, thats what it was, it was the UEN video cutscene from BW.

[SilverCrusader]

That's never going to happen. As soon as the Protoss get there, mass scourges/mutas/other zerg air will rush them, while saying kekekekeke.
That's why arbiters are there kekekekeke.
SNEAKY PROTOSS!

[DarkMirror]

The Game describes Char as being on the borders of Confederate space, IIRC.

[PaiN]

Except mass OL > Cloak =[

[masterofhobbiton]

The real question is, since the Protoss can glass planets from orbit (Chau Sara), so why the hell don't they just do that to Char? -_-"

Oh, and mass corsairs would beat your mass overlords. Your only hope would be indiscriminate plague and spore colonies. Then you'll all be dwebbed and stasised anyway. :D

[ForTheSwarm]

You are severely underestimating the Zerg. Assuming they were even able to destroy all the Zerg on Char, what do you think Kerrigan's reaction will be? Mass attack with all of her forces. The Protoss don't stand a chance.

[masterofhobbiton]

Kerrigan is on Char. :P

I mean, I think that right after BW they didn't have enough forces, but if in the last 5 years they had just massed carriers they could pull it off no sweat.

[ForTheSwarm]

Really? Where does it say that?

Edit: Who says the Zerg didn't mass anything?

[masterofhobbiton]

Nah, I'm just assuming it since it is the main zerg planet, hive cluster, w/e. I mean, where else would she go?

[ForTheSwarm]

I don't know, maybe she would notice 5000 carriers approaching Char and leave?

That's why arbiters are there kekekekeke.
SNEAKY PROTOSS!

In SC2 there are no arbs. ;)

[DarkMirror]

Stop saying they should just glass it. I point you to this.
Your saying that they should blast the highly radioactive, molten deathrock with high-radiation beams that punch through the crust into the core and turn planets into molten deathrocks?

[masterofhobbiton]

Err, for one thing, so what? So what if they have a molten radioactive deathrocks floating around in space? Space is really freakin' big. It wouldn't bother anybody. It would take hundreds and hundreds of years for any particles from an explosion to reach habited planets, and much of the radiation would have dispersed and the shrapnel cooled and worn down my micrometeorites and the like. They're at war. They wouldn't care even if there was a bit of collateral damage. Their entire homeworld just got ruined. They're practically suicidal, and this destruction of a single would have little to no consequence to the Protoss as a whole. Judging by Tassadar, Fenix, and the Templar caste in general, probably a fleet would be willing to die to eradicate the zerg anyway. But I still maintain it'd have no negetive effects whatsoever.
The other thing is that no one said that they punch through the crust into the core, that's the death star. I quote from the manual:
Without warning, a fleet of fifty alien warships descended from the skies over the outlying Confederate colony of Chau Sara. The massive ships opened fire upon the unsuspecting colony, continuing to decimate every inhabited settlement on the planet.

They just torched the surface at specific settlements where there was a zerg infestation. No mention of turning the planet into molten deathrocks. If Char's been nuked recently, the volcanic activity probably wouldn't even be bothered by some surface glassing. Parts of Char are already molten anyway.

So yes, I'm saying glass or nuke or whatever the shit out of Char. It'd be worth it.

I'm not saying the zerg can't counter it, FtS, I was just saying it'd make sense to try. And I was adding to the mass arbs, mass overlords, etc. conversation. :D

[WhatIsStarcraft]

I agree with the glassing of Char, but the zerg have that platform orbiting around Char, and the two moons, that are probably infested by the zerg as well, so they could send their fliers from there too.

[BlackDefiler]

Actually I found the population figure of 10,000,000,000 a bit low. We have almost as many people here on Earth now. Zerg are hive creatures. Adding another three zeros to that figure would sound more realistic IMO.

And I think Kerrigans primary hive cluster along with herself is located on Char Aleph.

[ForTheSwarm]

Actually, Char fragments would probably do substantial damage. Just imagine if we did something like that to Mars. It's gonna hit Earth.
3 zeros? Maybe 1-2 more, but not 3. Don't the Zerg have to eat?

[Ktan]

The real question is, since the Protoss can glass planets from orbit (Chau Sara), so why the hell don't they just do that to Char? -_-"



That is, of course, assuming that you can simply 'just glass' a planet. We've not actually seen it happen or really being planned, so it could take anything from one ship to the entire fleet to 'glass' a planet. (assuming the Protoss actually destroy it by glassing it, which I don't believe is the case per se). It could take anything from five minutes to twenty four hours (or even longer) for the Protoss to generate enough power.

Also, Dark Mirror has a point. We know (or at least infer) that the Protoss 'burn' the planet. As Aldaris says Tassadar 'spared the Terrans from the flame'. If it indeed the case that the Protoss set the planet alight, that's going to be rather difficult with Char. Assuming that the creep would be combustible (which it doesn't seem to be) the rest of the planet is going to be very hard to set alight. It's not easy to burn lava. Most of the Terran colonies the Protoss destroyed were temperate with lots of fauna to combust :>

Ultimately, maybe it is just a five minute 'death' ray jobby that kills everything, but we have no idea and, as far as I know (unless it's detailed in the books) we can't tell how it works and what the limitations are.

[masterofhobbiton]

I assumed they would heat the surface of the planet until it melted, leaving glass behind after it cooled, that's why I'm using the term (I think I ripped it off from halo....).

W/e, the planet thing wasn't important. It was a passing remark. Think nothing of it.

FortheSwarm, yes, Mars's fragments would damage earth. But that's in the same solar system. Would Mars's fragments even reach a planet in the rigil kent system? I think not, especially if the debris was all blown randomly outwards in a sphere, there's a good chance nothing would even fly that way. And that's the closest solar system there is, something like 4 and a half light years away. And debris doesn't go at nearly the speed of light. And the protoss probably live a lot farther away from their enemy than that.

[mranderson]

The real question is, since the Protoss can glass planets from orbit (Chau Sara), so why the hell don't they just do that to Char? -_-"

If you've forgotten the Protoss lost Auir in the original and lost the broodwars. It would stand to reason they have lost a substantial amount of their fleet, and do not have enough ships to mount an offensive. Also, the protoss seemed to be less of a species dedicated to producing ships than more of warping them around (protoss do not build units, but gate them in from a different location from what I remember).

And glassing a planet would not fragment it, it would take a large explosion in the center of the planet to cause it to fragment. Liberty's crusade, from summarizing, takes three minutes (plus the charge time which is probably less than a minute) to "burn" a planet with a fleet, and only goes twenty to fifty feet deep across most of the planet except for certain settlement parts, and other parts which added up to around twenty in the book. But if you watch the single player demo carefully the Sara system is a "salvage planet" for the Terran's now. So glassed planets are still habitable even on the surface a few years later.

And 10 billion for zerg populatoin on Char seems right seeing that it has only been ten years.

But if anyone wants to figure out what the Terran population is at take 32,000 beginning population and ~250 years. :) I'm to lazy.

Of course the Protoss could just create a Dr. device :P

[DarkMirror]

Alright, you missed my point. The Protoss's burning system punches holes in the crust of a planet, right down to the core. Its explained in the books. It also lets off a shitload of radiation.

My point is, what is irradiation and punching holes in a planets crust going to do to a heavily irradiated planet thats already molten?

[masterofhobbiton]

Gah, it was just a passing remark.:mad2:

mranderson, I think it's been five years, not ten, but w/e.

I never liked the figures for zerg brood sizes in the manual, they always seemed small. This seems right to me, especially since the zerg probably aren't immidiately at war. They could have a couple million hatcheries on Char each with a few thousand larvae to instantly rebuild a massive army or something, for those that think the number is small.

[vIsitor]

If glassing Char would "do nothing" to the Zerg, then I honestly can't see why a Marine's Gauss Rifle is capable of doing anything...

Yes, Char is quasi-molten, but its the non-molten regions which are inhabited. Melting those would not be ineffectual (even if the irradiation is), simply for the fact that the Zerg would be hard-pressed to survive on molten lava. And even if they could, they would most certainly not survive being entombed in molten bedrock once the lava cools!

The thing is, the Protoss lost most of their fleets at Auir, and again at Char platform Aleph during the events of "Omega". They've been spending the last four years licking their wounds, and, given that Kerrigan has naught but gotten stronger during the interim, launching another ill-fated assault on Char would be foolhardy.

As for the Terrans, they don't exactly [i]have[/]i that sort of world-destroying power; the best they can do is nuke the hell out of planets, and, if memory serves, they don't make the large 'Apocalypse' class nukes anymore, given what happened to Korhal at the hands of the old Confederacy.

And, obviously, a ground assault would be suicide. At least, without a Psi Disrupter, anyway.

[DarkMirror]

I was not saying that the planet would EXPLODE. I'm saying that the effect of blasting radiation and cracking the crust of the planet that IS ALREADY IRRADIATED AND MOLTEN would be very, very small.

[ForTheSwarm]

Psst... the UED's main force might be enough to defeat Char? After all, the UED fleet in Brood War was only an expeditionary force.

[Ktan]

This is a very common fallacy.

Expeditionary force does not mean 'small scouting fleet'. An expeditionary force is usually quite a sizable commitment. You wouldn't send in a small scouting force to take on TWO potential alien threats.

Just because it's an 'expeditionary force' does not mean it is weak or insignificant. Check the definition of expeditionary fleet if you aren't sure. It merely means they are operating abroad.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expeditionary

[ForTheSwarm]

Ahh, I didn't know that. Still, after Earth hears of the fleet's destruction, I think they will step into full military gear.

[WhatIsStarcraft]

The only thing is that, Earth never heard of the defeat, and that Admiral Dugalle commited suicide.

Also, I think that the combined nuclear missiles of Emperor Arcturus Mengsk, and the United Earth Directorate, accompanied with some sort of Protoss weapons, they could pretty much wipe out the zerg population on Char. That would leave the other planets infested with zerg to fefend, and Aleph, which is the HQ of Kerrigan, at least in Brood War.

[ForTheSwarm]

I think after no news from the UED fleet for awhile, they would connect the dots. But who knows? Anyways, how could they really destroy Char without touching Aleph if Aleph pretty much orbits Char?

[Escade]

Well, considering that almost all the UED have been wiped out, and the remaining are, not only being hunted down by pretty much everyone, hardly have enough resources to remain in the sector, much less have a nuclear arsenal. And, also, did nobody pay attention to the first mission's briefing? It's apparent that the journey between the Koprulu Sector and Earth was a great distance, by the fact they had to go into cryostasis. The trip would of probably taken maybe six months to a year, the UED had found the Koprulu Sector quite by accident, and the fleet sent there probably couldn't of forwarded it's location back to Earth, and even if they did, again, transmission between space takes a rather long time to receive if they're lightyears away.

[DarkMirror]

...The UED had been monitoring the sector, actually. Thats why they sent the fleet. They know its there.

[masterofhobbiton]

Also, the cryostasis you're referring to was when the original colonists went out there (that trip took 30 years. But SC is much later, I'd guess at least a dozen generations later, by which time Earth would have had plenty of time to get faster warp travel.

[BlackDefiler]

Also, the cryostasis you're referring to was when the original colonists went out there (that trip took 30 years. But SC is much later, I'd guess at least a dozen generations later, by which time Earth would have had plenty of time to get faster warp travel.

Plus the Atlas project was on an erroneus route flying around the place. Based on the manual account they didn't really take the straight route. So the 30 (wasn't it 60?) year trip probably isn't representative.

[masterofhobbiton]

No, it's 28 years of warp travel (which is really fast, since the sector is 60000 light years away from sol).

[ForTheSwarm]

The main reason the Protoss and the Terrans don't attack Char is that they don't want to anger the Zerg.

[DarkMirror]

Actually, the UED fleet did go there in stasis. Its said so in the first missions briefing.

[masterofhobbiton]

Hmm? Oh, okay then, guess the technology hasn't improved that much after all.

[mranderson]

It all depends, they could have gotten faster warp travel, or warp could just be a constant speed depending on how they write it. And of course they went their in stasis, because even if they did increase warp speed by 100% than it would still take 14 years, and the troops would be much better off in stasis.

And how is stasis not advanced techonology?

[masterofhobbiton]

Well, they had it when the terrans first went out there, which I'm going to guess was what, 200, 300 years ago?

[mranderson]

Yes, and now apparently they can go for longer distances since they didn't have a catostrophic systme failure with the engines this time :P

[BlackDefiler]

But Du'Gaulle has written to his wife ("Dearest Helena" probably his wife I assume) on the way back before the fleet was pwned by Kerrigan. If the woman stayed on Earth than she would be 30 years older now. (I guess you don't age in stasis otherwise the Marines would have had a hard time finding their teeth upon arrival)

[ForTheSwarm]

Yes, a letter will obviously survive a battlecruiser explosion, get all the way to Earth, and land in his wife's lap.

[Escade]

Did you not see the last cinematic? Not an actual letter, an eMail. DuGalle writes to his wife, Helena and then he shoots himself.

[masterofhobbiton]

DuGalle wrote the note before he killed himself so they could give it to her when they got home. Err, you do realise that the Koprulu sector is 60000 light years from Earth, right? They don't have communication with Earth. If they sent messages at the speed of light back home, it would get there in 60000 years. How is he going to send an email? :P That's why it says in the epilogue right after that cinematic, shortly after the defeat the fleet was wiped out, and none of the UED ships ever made it back to report what had happened. If they had communication, they could've just called up to report what happened. And they could've asked for reinforcements or something a long time ago.

[Protogod]

That does beg the question; Was the UEN news report only for the UED members already in Koprulu?

That seems unlikely. Moreover, the goings on of SC vanilla were observed by the people of Earth. The amount of information that Earth's leaders have is very undefined, atm.

[SilverCrusader]

The UED has one trick up their sleeve.

"They've gone to plaid!"
http://static1.videosift.com/thumbs/s/pa/Spaceballs_Ludicrous_speed_GO.jpg

[masterofhobbiton]

I dunno, I always figured for the news report they could have sent an actual ship back or some sort of warp-capable beacon satellite thingy as a messanger. Since they have to go into stasis for the flight from our sector to koprulu it still must take a really long time to get there, months at least. I never thought about the monitering of SC1 stuff though, dunno how they did that... Well, I'm still convinced they don't have a communication method for the distance, if they had some sort of warp capable radiation (which would be kind of silly anyway) then the fleet should've just called Earth for help. I dunno though, I forgot about that bit. :/

[DarkMirror]

Its been around since the Korpralu sector was colonized...

[mranderson]

No it hasn't. They were watching their wayward colonies, and than saw the zerg, and protoss. They than gathered intel, and launched a fleet. Assuming they only knew about the zerg and protoss they would have had to send the information back, and than send a fleet, so apparently their warp techonology has gotten faster, or something like that. And they could send a warp beacon or something along those lines. And assuming the UEN was for Earth, it would stand to reason they would notice the fleet missing, and the absence of reports. Also, the news seems to be directed to those who know nothing about the zerg war. But assuming they did call for help, they would still be sol as it would take a few years for another fleet to reach them, not to mention the manpower, and resources involved in putting that fleet together. (Not saying they couldn't get another bigger fleet, but they did lose a lot). I don't know though, maybe it'll be a plot device in sc2.

And if the fleet was around since the colony was colonized why is it that you are awoken out of cryostasis, and then start your mission for the greater of humanity :).

The UED has one trick up their sleeve.
"They've gone to plaid!"


And they must have some real ballz to do that in space. I know I wouldn't go plaid anywhere :P

[Kimera757]

I'm pretty sure the UED has some kind of FTL communication. They have to; you cannot run an interstellar government without it. No doubt Earth has an idea of what happened, if only because DuGalle hasn't sent them any emails in years.

However, I don't believe the UED will return to the K-Sector anytime soon. They just lost a war, and they have nobody who can tell them what happened beyond emailed reports. It would be a much smarter idea to send spies and possibly diplomats to the K-Sector and actually find out what is going on. (Could you imagine what the UED would have done if they hadn't found the Psi Disrupter? What if Mengsk had dug it up a week before, then hid it when the UED appeared?)

The UED could send a much bigger force next time (assuming they bother doing so; I seriously doubt Kerrigan would be so stupid as to travel to Earth)* but they don't have a Psi Disrupter, and the only person who might know how to build one is dead. (Well, sorta: http://www.sclegacy.com/content/interviews-6/scl-metzen-interview---lore-exclusive-28/)

As for attacking Char, I don't see it happening. The other races have tried to probe the Zerg planets and gotten nowhere (aka they got spanked), see the Zerg race entry and Char entry at www.starcraft2.com for confirmation.

The Protoss do not have the ability to "glass" or purify Char. In order to glass a planet, they need to defeat the air forces first, and the Zerg have 10 billion units there! I suspect a good billion or three are air forces. Also (by lore) the Protoss have lost a huge chunk of their population, so they can't send the hundreds or thousands of Carriers and other ships needed to protect the Motherships (or whatever does the purifying) in order to attack Char head-on.

At the end of Brood War, Kerrigan was in a weak position (most of her forces were on Char because they'd been searching for Raszagal), leaving Kerrigan with a tiny amount (relatively speaking) of Zerg forces facing off against three fleets... and the Zerg still won.

*That would be splitting her forces and provoking a giant UED. She'd be better off hunting for some uninhabited, resource rich planets where she could create secret hive clusters instead.

[DarkMirror]

Actually, the fastest way to send a message is always gonna be on a ship. No FTL communication required.

[mranderson]

Actually, the fastest way to send a message is always gonna be on a ship. No FTL communication required.

Actually it is whatever blizzard says is faster. :P

[DarkMirror]

Which, judging by the fact that they didn't just send a distress signal letting the UED know, is ships.

[Protogod]

For the record, Kimera, Protoss and Terran spies have met "varying levels of success" when spying on char, according to sc2.com. That would imply that some missions would have had to be successful.

[vIsitor]

This is a very common fallacy.

Expeditionary force does not mean 'small scouting fleet'. An expeditionary force is usually quite a sizable commitment. You wouldn't send in a small scouting force to take on TWO potential alien threats.

Just because it's an 'expeditionary force' does not mean it is weak or insignificant. Check the definition of expeditionary fleet if you aren't sure. It merely means they are operating abroad.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expeditionary

Technically speaking, K'tan, you are right.

However, the developers have explicitly stated in the past that the UED Expeditionary Fleet was relatively small, relying instead on the re-socialized colonial conscripts and stolen military equipment to constitute the core of their invasion force. Not to mention they left most of their cool toys at home.

Remember; the UED invasion was more of a political move, for their part. Two apparently hostile alien races threatened the well-being of humanity's distant, long-lost, exiled cousins (who, incidentally, remained outside of UED jurisdiction, which simply would not do), and some something had to be done about it. However, sending the main defense fleets of Earth and her colonies to combat a potential threat so distant (especially when there could very well be more xenos lying about, undiscovered) would be foolhardy, to put it lightly.

So, instead, they sent a small--but elite--task force commanded by the two men they were certain that would know what they were doing in a move to placate the masses and deal with the Koprulu sector at the same time. Of course, we all know how that turned out (although, to the UED's credit, their ultimate failure was due to unforeseen factors, such as Kerrigan and Duran).

We don't know how the UED reacted to the loss of their fleet (although I'm certain that it was quite a debacle), but it seems logical that if they were to send another fleet, they would not repeat the same mistakes as before. To that end, they'd desire to put their full force to bear, but, given that they'd likely still want Earth well-defended, they'd likely need to build another fleet entirely. This would take quite a lot of time, and would certainly account for their relative absence in the Koprulu sector for the past four years.

Of course, their deciding not to send another fleet would present the same ends. With the limited evidence we have, the best we can do is to speculate.

[ForTheSwarm]

Or, you know, they could have covered the loss up and explained the need for another fleet as a call for reinforcements.

[Subjukator]

i just realized, we severely need fresh information on starcraft, I think i've memorized everything from up until SC:BW

still, 10 trillion zerg on that planet? that must be one helluva sight to behold

[ForTheSwarm]

It's actually 10 billion.

[Kimera757]

For the record, Kimera, Protoss and Terran spies have met "varying levels of success" when spying on char, according to sc2.com. That would imply that some missions would have had to be successful.

And that part was quoted just before the final battle. Since then, according to the Zerg entry, no scouting parties have returned alive.

[Ktan]

No point in me quoting the whole post for such a small reply.

Indeed, in turn I think I remember reading something about the UED fleet being relatively small, and it's hard to tell without much more data.

Still, something that corroborates with your account would be the point that most people assume because it's an expeditionary fleet, it had no effect on the main UED power base. As you have put forward, it very likely did. This isn't so much about size, more an issue of people underestimating the impact the loss of the exp. fleet will have had on the UED forces, something you pointed out in more detail than I did.

[WhatIsStarcraft]

Well, the loss of the expeditionary fleet is more of a pshycical damage than of a physical damage, because the aliens would seem to be more dangerous than they thought before. This owuld make the UED leaders go whak! and start builfing extra ships and orbiatl defences, not just around Earth, but also around Mars, and other planets they have inhabited.

See, one single planet can't hold on for a very long time, it need to have more planets, because then the enemy fleet would have to split in smaller forces, if they would have wanted all the planets at once, which is a bad idea.

[ForTheSwarm]

Pshyical? Please tell me what that means. (not sarcasm) Umm... no normal commander is going to attack all the planets at once. That's just retarded.

[Kimera757]

Well, the loss of the expeditionary fleet is more of a pshycical damage than of a physical damage, because the aliens would seem to be more dangerous than they thought before. This owuld make the UED leaders go whak! and start builfing extra ships and orbiatl defences, not just around Earth, but also around Mars, and other planets they have inhabited.

See, one single planet can't hold on for a very long time, it need to have more planets, because then the enemy fleet would have to split in smaller forces, if they would have wanted all the planets at once, which is a bad idea.

Since the aliens are dangerous, don't provoke them!

Also, the UED does have some colony worlds (Centauri colonies, Tau Ceti, and probably others).

[Lithium]

Whatever, i just hope Starcraft doesn't turn into Halo where the humans have to defend their homeworld against Zerg and Toss.

[Kimera757]

Whatever, i just hope Starcraft doesn't turn into Halo where the humans have to defend their homeworld against Zerg and Toss.

That sort of happened already (at Tarsonis, though, not Earth). Zerg 1, humans 0.

[Loser]

Zerg 1, humans 0.

:DYAY! LIVE FOR THE SWARM!:D Sniff, I hope they bring the old Overmind back. Blizzard literally killed all the characters I didn't hate by the end of brood war :cry: (except for maybe Duran, he was a nice guy and he didn't die... but other than him...).

[DarkMirror]

If the Overmind came back again, it would be rather repetitive. And if it came back at full strength (Which it would have to to not just be making Brood War semi-pointless), then Kerrigan would be out of the picture and Brood War would [i]also[/b] be useless.

[Loser]

I would much like to see Kerrigan out of the picture. She killed the last of my favorite characters, ie, Daggoth. I don't care how much power the Overmind has, I just want to get that guy back somehow... even if it means someone going back in a time machine and saving him from the suicide attack of the notorious Tassadar... doubt it'll happen though, everyone seems to love Kerrigan for some reason... ugh.

[DarkMirror]

In my opinion, Kerrigan is a character you love to hate. Cold, hard, a backstabbing bitch... but at the same time theres enough humanity left to drive you insane hoping for it to grow.

Shes a great character. After all, she is the Queen Bitch of the Universe.

[WhatIsStarcraft]

I couldn't agree more. The only thing is that I hate Zerg as a species. They are like a plague in the universe that should be eradicated. Hell, we humans have annhilitated species before, we can certainly do it again!

[Loser]

I love zerg as a species =O. They are a plague in the universe and therefore they SHOULD NOT be eradicated, for they anhilate brainless, weak species like humans and protoss (well, maybe protoss aren't brainless and weak, but they're certainly bullies that should be eradicated judging by people such as Zeratul and Tassadar :P).

[mranderson]

Pffft. Humans can't eradicate a hive mind race.

[Zeltaris]

I couldn't agree more. The only thing is that I hate Zerg as a species. They are like a plague in the universe that should be eradicated. Hell, we humans have annhilitated species before, we can certainly do it again!

Yes my friend, but in that particular field of expertise, the Zerg are like humans on steroids.

[ForTheSwarm]

The Protoss are closer to that. The Zerg are like animals on steroids. (with various spines and stuff added)

[WhatIsStarcraft]

Yeah, and the result is what we see in the game, and the cinematics, to name a few. Really, Kerrigan is the most human of all the zerg. Well, duh! :D

Anyways, I believe that we could eradicate the zerg, although it would be a lot harder. See, we humans needed to eat, and therefore we killed a lot of animals to feed ourselves, prior to the farmer revolution, back in 10.000 B.C.

I don't know how zerg smell, and taste like, when they are fried. Well, the outcome would be, a la zergling, or Kentucky fried hydralisk. I wouldn't want to go closer on that subject.

But back to the eradication of species such as zerg. Well, one way of eradicating the zerg is that we, well, ehh, ummmm, well, there si a bit of a problem there. They aren't just animals on steroid, they are united under one Queen Bitch of the Universe.

[LDawgg]

Yeah, and the result is what we see in the game, and the cinematics, to name a few. Really, Kerrigan is the most human of all the zerg. Well, duh! :D

Anyways, I believe that we could eradicate the zerg, although it would be a lot harder. See, we humans needed to eat, and therefore we killed a lot of animals to feed ourselves, prior to the farmer revolution, back in 10.000 B.C.

I don't know how zerg smell, and taste like, when they are fried. Well, the outcome would be, a la zergling, or Kentucky fried hydralisk. I wouldn't want to go closer on that subject.

But back to the eradication of species such as zerg. Well, one way of eradicating the zerg is that we, well, ehh, ummmm, well, there si a bit of a problem there. They aren't just animals on steroid, they are united under one Queen Bitch of the Universe.

Even if the Terrans could eat through every zerg creature, i'm not coniced that they would. Besides why waste your time to cook, or even to just eat raw, a dead zergling? Wouldn't it be more efficent just to move on to the next one?:shiftyl:

[mranderson]

When life gives you lemons...

[masterofhobbiton]

why waste your time to cook, or even to just eat raw, a dead zergling?

Well, you're not going to cook one that's cooked already, and if it's still alive then it probably won't let you cook it. The answer, of course, is the firebat; kills and cooks in one fell swoop.

I think the main problem is that the zerg seems to explode into pools of blood when they die; maybe you could make soup but it'd soak into the ground pretty quickly anyway.

[Escade]

Kerri didn't kill any Cerebrates. Without the Overmind, the Cerebrates just died away.

[ForTheSwarm]

Furthermore, Zeratul has a long and bitter history with the Queen of Blades, having been manipulated and betrayed by her more than once as she destroyed the remaining zerg cerebrates in order to secure her control over the Swarm after the Overmind's death.

Directly from the StarCraft 2 website. (Zeratul's page.)

[DarkMirror]

And not to mention the storyline Q&A from ages ago.