Warboards Is So Unfair!!!

[ZeratulStukov]

Let me tell you this.... It's just so unfair!!!

First time I was here, I tried to be myself... nobody liked me...
Then, I flamed you all because nobody liked me... everybody hated me...
Then, I apologized and became... as polite and respectuos as I could.... Half of the people continued to hate me, the other just didn't care about me....
Then I flamed again...

Tell me, what should one do to be liked by you??? Because I tried being myself, it didn't work... Then, I tried being polite, cute, kind, again, it didn't work... And then I tried a couple of times being an idiot and flaming around... How should I behave to be liked by you??? (You know it's hard to be alone on the internet... in real life I've got friends, but on the internet, 0)


Being GOOD doesn't work, Being BAD doesn't work, Being YOURSELF doesn't work... then, what works???

Or is age the reason??? "hey this guy is 11... who cares how he behaves, we just hate him because he's younger than everyone else here..."
Neah, it can't be the age... Z_E isn't to far from me, yet, he isn't so hated....

Tell me, what should I do? How should I behave? Or, better, what is the reason for which whatever I do, however I behave, everyone hates me???

[TranquilNightElf]

You say that you were being yourself , nobody liked you, and that caused you to flame resulting in ,as you say, everybody hating you.
If that were the case, then even though you apologized would not be able to turn a switch in people's minds.

These kind of things take time .. and even then why are you gunning for the absolute goal of everyone liking you ?
Try to get along with the people you are comfortable with and behave with respect with the others. Intelligent contributions will be appreciated here, but again, changing perceptions will take time.

~Tranquil

[MatGeo]

First of all you need to stop being such an attention whore.

I think, this is when people started really hating you a lot.

So, I have been absent for a HUGE while... Now I came back to say farewell... But I saw no ****ing one sent me a ****ing PM regarding to why have I been inactive...

It's the internet. People here don't know you. You were a newbie, you had no special contribution to the forums, you weren't outstanding in any way, you leave for a while, then come back bitching about why nobody cared about you.

You can't expect people to care about you over the internet until you really influence them in some way or another, or until you become friends and regularly chat with them. And even then, their care-o-meter will be much lower than that of real-life friends.

The world doesn't revolve around you, stop being an attention whore, stop flaming and spamming, use proper grammar, and give people time to realise that you aren't the asshole you made them think you were.

[WarInSerbia]

Tell me, what should one do to be liked by you??? Because I tried being myself, it didn't work... Then, I tried being polite, cute, kind, again, it didn't work... And then I tried a couple of times being an idiot and flaming around... How should I behave to be liked by you???
Thats probably cuz you hail Nostradamus :confused:

ZeratulStukov has not made any friends yet
How about you send some friend invitations to ppl you know here ?Youre 11?
Maybe its that Fuck AJ in all slots in your profile :confused:,tell us more about yourself and maybe someone will find you interesting.

[Ahzz]

It takes time. You were always sort of new to the site, if you left, few would actually be especially missing you except if you had some outstanding contribution in your pocket.

Stay here a while, be polite, do not spam, and so on and slowly people will start to respect you. Some may accept you sooner, for some it may take quite a while. especially on the internet.

Pretty much following matgeos advice works as well

EDIT:

And its good to see you have the will to improve. I didn't expect that really, not yet anyway. Just be patient. Things will come over time

[Thedutchjelle]

Matgeo and Ahzz are right.
If you follow the rules, and don't flame/spam/troll/whatever people won't hate you. It will take time for them to like you after all that you've done, so don't expect people suddenly to like you or anything.

Also, please stop ending your sentences with 8 periods.

[ZeratulStukov]

Also, please stop ending your sentences with 8 periods.

Sorry. it's just a habit of mine.

[Neo]

Being yourself works grand, just look at Magmaniac or Kongurous or anyone else around with strange personalities.

However the problem is that anything you gain from a few days of being "polite" gets completely blown away when you start flaming.

Just be yourself, be nice, and don't fly off the handle anytime someone posts something contradictory to yourself (eg: "Naruto Sucks!!!" you wouldn't have to respond with a flame, or to those idgits who say things like "anime sux" or wahtever).

Also a good idea is to simply participate, rather then trying to start discussions. Join a discussion already underway, or create one that's well thought out (eg: a thread in the EC about, say, your favorite Naruto episode) past just a random passing thought in your head.

Otherwise you look like a spammer =P

You could also join the IRC Channel, it's pretty insane in there and fun imo.

Just don't get pissed off over little things.

-Neo

[DarkMirror]

Also, I deem this thread worthy of the Drama Llama.
http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/a/a7/Drama_Llama.jpg

But really, yeah. You shouldnt whine and moan every time people don't react to you. Its a bad habit.

[Neo]

that was a bit much DM =/

be nice omfg :(

dattebayo!

-Neo

[DarkMirror]

I couldn't resist, its a great picture.

[DoctorZettabyte]

Make a decent post every once in a while -- most of your stuff is incoherent BS, like it or not. Write an essay, draw something, make a worthwhile SC mod, make a Counter-Strike map, etc,.

-DocTera

[Lithium]

why don't you just take some time writing your posts? Also pm somebody. They're probably going to respond thus leading to a conversation. Before "trying" to be funny, you should first thought whether or not it was actually funny or just annoying.the Internet is not for friends, especiallywbs. If you wanna fuck around, do of with your real life friends.

[GrassDragon]

I'm a mod and nobody likes me. Just get over it, being well liked is not as important as you think.

[Kingscrab]

Just get over it, being well liked is not as important as you think. True. True. Really, who cares.

Now can I offer you glass of "shut the hell up"?

[anderoo]

I'm a mod and nobody likes me. Just get over it, being well liked is not as important as you think.

I like you.

*manhug*

[FrankZ]

First of all you need to stop being such an attention whore.

That's the key point there: if you want us to like you, stop being an attention whore, stop complaining, and just do what you are supposed to do. People will not like you for being popular for bans and infractions. People will like you if you did something that made them remember you: like a funny quote, or a helpful post in the Tech Annex, or a good game of RP, or even a good Game Thread. Being liked takes time you know. If you force people to like you; if you hurry things up by attracting attention: that will draw a negative impact for people not to like you.

Also, please do not be offended, but stop being childish. If you want to gain respect from a community, you need to be more mature. Sometimes being your real self (11-year old type) is frowned at. Sometimes it is even better to be plastique: to have a persona far from the real you.

Lastly, there are some internet ethics and manners to be observed. I am not ashamed to say that I have been warned and infracted several times, because that's part of blending in.. that's part of learning from your surroundings. To be honest, on my first infraction I even had the guts to confront Basan for infracting me for flaming AJ, but thinking about it later, I can say to myself: "How foolish I was once.". Now, I just try to see the mod's point of view: even if they are really annoying because you feel like being bullied or being scowled at.

I hope you understand. To blend in or to be liked, you need to adapt to the surroundings. Do something wise and memorable. Do something that will make people remember you. My first days here were as rough as you... but I feel a lot different now.

Cheers.

[GenocideAlive]

It's kind of weird to see GD saying nobody likes him. I thought he was well liked?

Just goes to show how far perception goes between two people. That said, you're right in that you're pretty heavily disliked. And despite "being yourself", sometimes you find out that being yourself usually means people have to put up with things they don't like about you and you have to learn to change them. For instance, if someone doesn't like something about you, allcaps 20 pt. font of FUCK YOU isn't the solution, and is pretty much going to piss people off.

The best advice I can offer to people struggling to fit in is: use proper sentence structure, use proper grammar, and speak only when you have something you can add to the conversation. Otherwise, avoid posting.

[Magmaniac]

Being yourself works grand, just look at Magmaniac or Kongurous or anyone else around with strange personalities.


wat.

Them's FAHGHTN' WORDS, NEO.

Why does people always talk about me behind my back like that, eh?


Also, IN THIS THREAD SEE THE AMAZING NOOB WHINE ABOUT BEING MISTREATED! LISTEN TO HIM BITCH ABOUT SHIT NOBODY CARES ABOUT! SEE HIM JUMP THROUGH HOOPS! MAYBE IF WE'rE LUCKY, HE'LL SHOOT HIMSELF! Juuust fiiiiiiive dollar entry, folks, fiiiiiiive dollars!
I'mma get rich offa dis.

[FrankZ]

wat.

Them's FAHGHTN' WORDS, NEO.

Why does people always talk about me behind my back like that, eh?


Also, IN THIS THREAD SEE THE AMAZING NOOB WHINE ABOUT BEING MISTREATED! LISTEN TO HIM BITCH ABOUT SHIT NOBODY CARES ABOUT! SEE HIM JUMP THROUGH HOOPS! MAYBE IF WE'rE LUCKY, HE'LL SHOOT HIMSELF! Juuust fiiiiiiive dollar entry, folks, fiiiiiiive dollars!
I'mma get rich offa dis.

Are you drunk again, Mag? (Hey, that's the real Mag. Look at him. Look at his glowing balls.)

Don't forget to read my advice on an earlier post, Zeratul. It seems that GA, Mag, and I posted almost simultaneously.

[Magmaniac]

Are you drunk again, Mag? (Hey, that's the real Mag. Look at him. Look at his glowing balls.)

Don't forget to read my advice on an earlier post, Zeratul. It seems that GA, Mag, and I posted almost simultaneously.

No, if I was drunk I would be typing incoherently, and it would be the weekend.
I am in class actually.

[FrankZ]

Whoa. You are in class and having a good time at WB? Or you are in WB and having a good time in class?

[Ktan]

ZS, the problem is, you seem to act as if the world owes you something. Case in point is, it doesn't.

We've had to tell you a number of times about 1. spamming, 2. asking for help with a pirated version of a game, even after being told that we cannot help you with those issues, because we don't want to have an issue with Blizzard because of it, and it's against the rules, and finally 3. making derogatory remarks repeatedly about members of the forums. You then had the audacity, in your apology, to claim that you 'drove' one of the Moderators out of the site. Though this was done with obvious regret, it was still a thinly veiled 'wow, that was impressive'.

1. You made a positive step towards rectifying your previous record, posting up links to interesting stuff in the StarCraft II section. While not original or inventive, these were excellent steps towards becoming a contributing member of the forum. A positive contribution begets positive recognition. The opposite is also true. This is a process that takes time.
Had you simply continued along this path, I would have actually nominated you for the 'Turncoat' award. That is certainly good recognition.

2. This issue did not crop up so much, but when it did, it was a major issue. Essentially, we have stated that we cannot help you with illegal copies of StarCraft, no matter the reason, excuse or mitigating circumstances. There are, I'm sure, plenty of forums out there that could help you with cracked CDs, I say this only because it's rather obvious. However, here we discourage it, and simply cannot help you with it, no matter how much we may or may not want to. However, there are other ways you contribute, and if you were to get a legal copy, equally we would not deny any help because we do not have a legitimate basis to do so, and otherwise we are here to help.

3. Finally, the most serious issue. It seems that you have something of a short fuse, or attention span, and suddenly will return with an outburst of 'fuck you' which destroys any hard work you may have done in point 1. First, as mods, we are not 'out to get you' we are here to maintain that the rules are kept to, as far as is possible. As such, to react badly and harass mods when you broke the rules is simply wrong.
Also, flaming out the site admin is as much a good idea as going bungee-jumping without a cord is.

Also, with regards to no-one PMing you when you've gone away...don't be surprised. I've not PMed incredibly memorable members (at least in my mind) if they've dissapeared simply because, if they are away, they aren't going to get the PM 'til they are back anyway. Equally, saying 'where have you gone!!!!!' seems sycophantic, which is another reason it is not done. If people do not ask after you, does not mean they do not like you, there may be other reasons. If I dissapear, I'd be surprised to get an influx of PMs. When I first went away (well, it was my second time, actually) I was a tad surprised that people didn't seem to notice I'd gone, but, in the end, I shrugged it off. Eventually, you learn a bit of humility. Over time, people will be missed. However, to, as a person with less than about 500 posts (at the time) to go away unannounced and then expect people to have PMed back, then don't be surprised. I've had people in my form for 7 years at high school/6th form who I doubt I'll ever speak to again. Indeed, it should be more of a case that when you come across people again, you want to catch up instead, not demand why they never chased after you. Sometimes people just need space, and that applies to both RL and forums. If that is the case, people often don't like to intrude.

Also, finally, if you think WB is unfair, you clearly have not visited some of the more 'official'/'mainstream' forums, such as Relic and CAD, where even implying you have torrented something can wind you up with a perma-ban. Here, we rarely perma-ban, because there's always hope for reform.

[Leosam096]

It's alright ZS, I still like you. :3

Just be who you are, don't just think of yourself and you'll be fine. It hurts but don't be thinking that everyone hates because it's not true. They don't know you! Why fuss about it?

[GenocideAlive]

They don't know you. ahahah. Nice try, Leo, but your behavior online is part of you. No matter how people try to separate themselves from their bad behavior on the Internet, it speaks volumes about their character. A famous quote goes something along the lines of "Integrity is how you behave when no-one is watching". It's a remark to observe the tendency of some people to behave like they're one step below the man upstairs in front of crowds, but as soon as there is no enforceable punishment or they think that they can get away with their act, they behave in a completely contrary manner.

None of this matters anyway, because Ktan already won the thread. GJ Ktan.

[GrassDragon]

It's kind of weird to see GD saying nobody likes him. I thought he was well liked?

The impression I got from ZS is that he is upset he's not more popular, and I definitely wouldn't consider myself the most popular of the staff (it's hard to compete with the likes of kong :P) – not in the sense that everyone hates me, but I suppose I'm just not that memorable. Though in retrospect, ZS is neither popular nor particularly well liked.

I think Ktan has said everything that could be said about your behavior ZS. I don't think it would take a lot of work to correct some of your bad posting habits, just a little forethought.

[IrishDutchman]

It's kind of weird to see GD saying nobody likes him. I thought he was well liked?

Don't mind him, GD just needs to be reminded how loved he is every now and then. You fell for it hook line and sinker. :p

[SgtHK]

When I first met you I was like "Oh, Hi there" and you were like "Hey, nice to meet you". As time went on. I keep noticing that you constantly get banned. I never knew the reason why, until now, because I rarely participate in the Members lounge back then. Now, I kinda got disappointed by your real attitude. :/

[QuothTheRaven]

Or you're like AJ and get pmed every hour then say the equivalent of fuck it. I get pmed maybe every other week. Not a big deal.

Like mentioned above, spam. Plain and simple. You should usually wait to post another thread after yours gets off the first page. Takes less than a week.

Instead of asking for forgiveness start acting instead of complaining. Join a social group and get involved, don't wait for people to come to you.

Well all start out as spamming assholes, it's natural.

Anyways haven't you been banned like three times in a row?

[Nostradamus]

1. Change your custom title, I don't need a sycophant, and if I did, in all honesty you wouldn't be the first person I would want. Infact at this moment in time, you would be the last person I want. Only being honest.

2. If you want people to like you, then don't be an attention whore.

3. Also, don't try... to make yourself... sound intelligent... by posting like... this. It makes you look like a retard.

4. Nobody owes you anything. Life's a bitch, live with it. If you leave and nobody cares, then it's not their problem, it's yours.

I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm just being honest.

[ZeratulStukov]

Ok, then... I'll do my best to change... Though my only post here was the thread-strating one, I read all of your advices...

Instead of asking for forgiveness start acting instead of complaining. Join a social group and get involved, don't wait for people to come to you.

I've been inactive for quite a while. What exactly is a social group on WBs ?

[WarInSerbia]

Check the thread AJ opened.Its something like IRC,chat about specific things that the group was made for.

[GenocideAlive]

Ok, then... I'll do my best to change... Though my only post here was the thread-strating one, I read all of your advices...
Try starting by reading the post above yours, and limit your use of the period key to once every six words minimum. 9 periods every 30 words is ridiculous and makes your writing annoying and difficult to read.

[WarInSerbia]

And be friendly to staff.Kong hates me,but were still getting along just fine.

[Gunmonk]

Let me tell you this.... It's just so unfair!!!


Dude... you too? :banana:

[Modred]

You shouldn't try to make us like you. Just behave in an intelligible manner and people will at least tolerate you, if not start to appreciate your presence. Remember that this will take time, as many people will hold a grudge against you for your flaming for a while. If you don't let that get to you and give them time, most people will get over it as you demonstrate appropriate behavior over an extended period of time.

I don't mean to condescend, but that's really all there is to it. Stop caring if we like you, and when people don't appear to like you, don't let it affect you. So long as you don't completely annoy everyone, the dislikes will disappear as time goes on.

[Toucan]

If you like to type periods everywhere go for it!

The problem here is not everyones perception of you, the problem is that you care about it so much.

Just be yourself and keep going, don't stop after a few days and go "hey guys Im being myself why don't you all like me?".

If people are disrespectful to you, be disrespectful to them. Never kiss the ass of some ass hole that has been rude to you, be rude back to them.

Just stop caring about it, play your games, talk about them, get involved, have fun, nothing else to it.

[Nephi]

Dude... you too? :banana:

best response period.

[Icarus]

Here's a very simple solution that i've found effective, in both real life and (fake?) life:

If you want people to like you, stop caring whether or not they like you.

Individuality is appealing

[QuothTheRaven]

And be friendly to staff.Kong hates me,but were still getting along just fine.
Same here. Anyways his Godlike modding powers are now gone and he's an average member. Quick! Get the minigun!

Now back on topic, sorry bout being an ass but seriously it's sticking out in plain sight.

If it means anything I'll add you to my friend list. I haven't watched Naruto in 4 months for I have to stay up late to watch it and have work at 4:00 A.M. in the morning. I still love the magna.

[xodkrm]

There will always be people that hate you, and people that love you.
I don't know about you, but i'm not doing shit to make everyone like me,
those who hate me can lick my ass. And to those that love me, I will respect them back.

[dunchy]

http://piratbion.blogsome.com/images/crybaby.png

[Frattimonde]

Crybaby idd.

[IrishDutchman]

Sorry guys, Dunchy just owned the thread.

[Kingscrab]

Sorry guys, Dunchy just owned the thread. Word. Do the world a favor and end this thread.

[Protogod]

http://piratbion.blogsome.com/images/crybaby.png


Nuff said.