Hardest Highschool subject

[DNCMF036]

Hey guys! Which do you think is the hardest among the following subjects as a Highschool subject:

-Geometry (Math)
-Physics
-Chemistry
-Biology

--Waiting for replies :)

[Vezer]

AP Chem

[DNCMF036]

What's hard about chem?

[Jimmy_the_saint]

hmmm how about physics with general maths?

[Faiien]

O_o I'am taking ap chem next year and people keep telling me I'am gonna fail...why's it so hard?
I' am not great at math so it's my vote

[Magmaniac]

why "geometry" as the math? I took geometry as a freshman in high school o_O.
If any math it should be calculus. O_o

And anyways, there is no such thing as a hard highschool class. Just do the work, do what the teacher says, and pay attention in class and you can get an A in any class.

[DNCMF036]

Just do the work, do what the teacher says, and pay attention in class and you can get an A in any class.

My intention this June. The rest of the time wil get wasted with warboards and my bass. :D

[GrassDragon]

And anyways, there is no such thing as a hard highschool class.

True, especially with science classes where almost all of the work is completely objective, fill-in-the-blank, get-the-right-answer.

[DNCMF036]

What about arithmetic? (Physics)

[Lithium]

Math is hard to comprehend for my tiny brain. Okay, maybe it isn't but our teacher makes us do 10+ step problems WITHOUT calculators. It's tedious and stressful.

[Darmago]

AP calculus was the hardest at my high-school.

[FrankZ]

Geometry. Hardest thing ever. 'Been studying it all my life since our freshmen years, but I still hate it. Fuck the X Y thingies. Will you ever use those if you someday become a lawyer?

[DNCMF036]

Well, I'm gonna be 2nd year high this June. These subjects are the hardest (or what-do-you-think) subjects in our school. Many of our second-years always get red marks on their grade cards. It scared the wits out of me. I mean, once you get 3 units failure or more in our school, you get kicked out. I don't wanna leave my school. It's the best school in our place. :(

[Magmaniac]

Well, I'm gonna be 2nd year high this June. These subjects are the hardest (or what-do-you-think) subjects in our school. Many of our second-years always get red marks on their grade cards. It scared the wits out of me. I mean, once you get 3 units failure or more in our school, you get kicked out. I don't wanna leave my school. It's the best school in our place. :(

:rolleyes:
Then don't fuck up in your classes. What's to be scared about? Just do the work. If you get "red marks" it's your own damn fault.

If I fail a couple classes I have to retake them. And I have to pay many thousands of dollars per semester so I would rather not do that either.

[Gunmonk]

I think my AP lit class, my teacher view relative concepts as definite views

[Faiien]

supposedly the hardest class at my high school is APphysics

[deadkat]

I would say Physics.

Biology and Chemistry aren't hard, I just pay attention in class.

Geometry, I learned in sixth grade. Not hard.

Unless your teachers really suck, listening carefully in class helps quite a bit.

So my choice is more like...what isn't easy.

Okay, maybe it isn't but our teacher makes us do 10+ step problems WITHOUT calculators. It's tedious and stressful.

Wow. I feel sorry for you if you are in trigonometry.

Did the teacher actually make you memorize the trig tables? I can't image doing trig without a calculator.

*offtopic: Who knows how to disable Quick Find in Firefox? I can not type apostrophes or use the arrow keys.

[Darmago]

Reading this thread gives me mixed feelings of longing for the easier days, disgust at how people can possibly hate some of the simpler math functions(particularly trig, trig is my hero), and a little self-esteem raise that i've surpassed this level.

[Magmaniac]

Reading this thread gives me mixed feelings of longing for the easier days, disgust at how people can possibly hate some of the simpler math functions(particularly trig, trig is my hero), and a little self-esteem raise that i've surpassed this level.

I know, dude. How can people bitch about trig? It's not like it's hard, it's mostly just memorizing the unit circle and stuff.


I've always wanted to print off a big one of these and put it on my wall, along with a periodic table of the elements and one of those eye test things.
http://teacher2.smithtown.k12.ny.us/mrsfisher/images/UnitCircle.gif

[IrishDutchman]

I would have voted Ancient Greek, but it's not on the list. Think of it as Math that doesn't stick to the rules, with thousands of weird exceptions and a different alphabet.

[DNCMF036]

I know, dude. How can people bitch about trig? It's not like it's hard, it's mostly just memorizing the unit circle and stuff.

(The large-ass pic wit numbas)

I've always wanted to print off a big one of these and put it on my wall, along with a periodic table of the elements and one of those eye test things.


What is this? If this is to be memorized in trig,.... then = :bonk::chair::alcoholic:rolleyes::with::<:cuss::samurai::twak: I h8 Memorize!!!!!!!!!!!! huhuhuuhuhuhuuhuhuuhuhuhu....

[femoimal]

i very dearly remember my maths professors, totally giving up on me, because i was such a lazy and uncooperative twat. I averaged 5/20 in my last high school classes, being the last of the next-to-last pupil.

I always oscillated between total incomprehension, indifference and violent hatred for maths. How could I like something so abstract ? If you say maths is like a tool, well, do you have to fall in love with a hammer ?

When later on, in biochemistry, i failed some physics courses because of my lousy maths, i got frustrated [fuck that, maths to study cells?]. Later, when I studied computer programming and got impaled on Abstract Data Types because it smelled like maths, i got pissed off yet again [what ? maths when I want to program AI?]...

Bottom line, you gotta learn how to use the hammer. Because, as my girlfriend states it [she might have been the best at maths when she was 18, average 19.5/20, but now she can't even divide]: maths is something you learn until you finish high-school, later, you're toast.

PS: chemistry is the easiest of all. Just requires lot of memory. Chemistry in fact doesn't even exist, its just molecular physics.

[DNCMF036]

When later on, in biochemistry, i failed some physics courses because of my lousy maths, i got frustrated [fuck that, maths to study cells?]. Later, when I studied computer programming and got impaled on Abstract Data Types because it smelled like maths, i got pissed off yet again [what ? maths when I want to program AI?]...

As my father said, civilization can't exist without math. :)

[SilverCrusader]

PS: chemistry is the easiest of all. Just requires lot of memory. Chemistry in fact doesn't even exist, its just molecular physics.
Tell that to my science teacher, she thinks chemistry is the central science.
My hardest subject is English, only cause we get a lot of homework from it. Math comes easy to me.

[TheBB]

Tell that to my science teacher, she thinks chemistry is the central science.

Biology just boils down to chemistry. Chemistry boils down to physics. Physics boils down to math. (Computer science does too, actually.) And math... well, math is math! Love it or hate it (preferably the former), you're crucially depending on it in everyday life in one way or another. Can't hurt to know what you're dealing with.

If trig were only unit circle memorization it would be the easiest thing in the world. Christ, you need to remember this: 1/2 (= sin(pi/6)). The rest you can work out using symmetry and Pythagoras' theorem.

When I do "real" problemsolving, geometry is easily my worst field, so in a way I sympathise with the OP :).

[Nephi]

Math Ftl

[hammocksleeper]

why are all the choices sciences? where are the humanities. ps math was the easiest. hardest was foreign language, because i never studied

[femoimal]

BB, i disagree, physics do not boil down to maths.

Maths are totally independent of the environment and universe: you'll never see an equation give a different result if it is solved in a fridge or on the surface of the sun !

maths is its own bubble-universe: thats why i despise it !

[IrishDutchman]

why are all the choices sciences? where are the humanities. ps math was the easiest. hardest was foreign language, because i never studied

Yeah, Alpha subjects can be pretty tough too. History Latin and Ancient Greek are, IMO, all harder than Chem or Physics.

[WarInSerbia]

Chemistry :confused: ...
Math,geometry and the rest is fine but chemistry...TO DIE studying.
344 pages for the 1st year in high school,and its a school for machine technicians...
we still have to work thought 120 pages in 2 months o_O

[SilverCrusader]

BB, i disagree, physics do not boil down to maths.

Maths are totally independent of the environment and universe: you'll never see an equation give a different result if it is solved in a fridge or on the surface of the sun !

maths is its own bubble-universe: thats why i despise it !
Math isn't the universe. It is the source code of the universe.

[Darmago]

BB, i disagree, physics do not boil down to maths.

Maths are totally independent of the environment and universe: you'll never see an equation give a different result if it is solved in a fridge or on the surface of the sun !

maths is its own bubble-universe: thats why i despise it !

er... Physics Fg=G(m1)(m2)/r^2 so, in the fridge, a 1 kg mass is accelerating towards the earth at 9.8m/s^2... on the sun the acceleration is difference because the mass of the sun is a lot bigger than the mass of the earth. Most things are accounted for in physics, and theBB is almost entirely correct

[Lithium]

Whoah, I'm in eighth grade this year, moving on to highschool in september. (I take 8th grade Pre-AP Geometry, currently making 65)

I'm somewhat relieved that Trigonometry is kind of easy(as told my various members), I phail in Geometry, aka most fucked up subject ever.

But I'm getting concerned with these other classes, since my parents expect me to take all AP (advanced placement) classes during high school.

Bah, life sucks. I guess that'll just mean less computer time, more "preparing for the future" bs that I have to deal with.

[TheBB]

BB, i disagree, physics do not boil down to maths.

Maths are totally independent of the environment and universe: you'll never see an equation give a different result if it is solved in a fridge or on the surface of the sun !

maths is its own bubble-universe: thats why i despise it !

But it does. Every physical theory is backed up with a mathematical framework within which calculations are made. Everyday physics such as mechanics relies heavily on calculus. Einsteins general theory of relativity is, in fact, manifold theory in disguise (more or less). Quantum physics depend on function spaces, operator theory (this is actually just functional analysis), distribution theory and a number of other things.

You need this theory if you are ever to do work as a physicist. Particularly as a theorist. (Experimentalists can probably get away with just calculus :D)

Solving equations on the surface of the sun is quite besides the point.

[Magmaniac]

Whoah, I'm in eighth grade this year, moving on to highschool in september. (I take 8th grade Pre-AP Geometry, currently making 65)

I'm somewhat relieved that Trigonometry is kind of easy(as told my various members), I phail in Geometry, aka most fucked up subject ever.

But I'm getting concerned with these other classes, since my parents expect me to take all AP (advanced placement) classes during high school.

Bah, life sucks. I guess that'll just mean less computer time, more "preparing for the future" bs that I have to deal with.

AP classes were so worth it. When I was at the point you are at, I was like "meh, AP. I know I can do it but I don't wanna because I don't care"
Now, looking back, I realize how helpful they were. I got most of my college studying habits from my good AP classes (AP physics ftw!) and took enough AP classes to make a dent in my credit requirements, saving me thousands of dollars in the long run. Take the AP classes and kick their ass.

[SilverCrusader]

Bah, life sucks. I guess that'll just mean less computer time, more "preparing for the future" bs that I have to deal with.
Yes, you'll be glad of all that AP you have to deal with. I don't have AP at my school, so we move at a snail's pace.

[Icarus]

wow I feel real sorry for the people who think geometry is hard. I don't see how that works, even compared to algebra. For me, anyway, geometry was so incredibly simple that it was actually enjoyable.

[Battlecruiser]

O_o I'am taking ap chem next year and people keep telling me I'am gonna fail...why's it so hard?
I' am not great at math so it's my vote

It's not. And I have one of the harder teachers. It's simply memorizing. Not much thinking involved. Just read the textbook and you'll be fine. I'm getting a B+/A, and I hate chemistry.

But AP calculus BC is kicking my ass. I've never done so bad in a class ever. I have a B average and I got a C+ second quarter. I haven't understood a single thing all year (neither has the kid sitting in front of me, who incidentally is going to Harvard) and I haven't done any of the homeworks. Now I need to study my ass off and try to get a 5 on the AP so I don't take it in college.

AP Physics is supposedly hard at my school but I think it is among the easier classes. We have a curve that really helps out (If my grade was X, the curve is squareroot of X multiplied by ten. So a 49 is actually a 70), and it's mostly just understanding and plugging into formulas. Though I must say EM is somewhat hard to understand.

[TheBB]

So what does AP stand for?

[femoimal]

Armour Piercing ?

[DNCMF036]

why are all the choices sciences? where are the humanities. ps math was the easiest. hardest was foreign language, because i never studied

Our school is a Science High School and I based my choices on my school... We don't have humanities in our school too so, I don't have a single idea what humanities really is. :)

[hammocksleeper]

Our school is a Science High School and I based my choices on my school... We don't have humanities in our school too so, I don't have a single idea what humanities really is. :)

that's pretty sad. english, history, religion, foreign languages, fine arts, public speaking, etc...none of that? that's probably the most important shit to learn unless you want to be a grundoon your whole life.

[Magmaniac]

So what does AP stand for?
Advanced Placement.
It's basically taking college level classes in high school, and most colleges will give you credit for them if you do good enough on the test for whatever class you are in.

[DNCMF036]

that's pretty sad. english, history, religion, foreign languages, fine arts, public speaking, etc...none of that? that's probably the most important shit to learn unless you want to be a grundoon your whole life.

Well we had English and History last year. We might tackle pulic speaking later (I don't know what it really is though) I had Arabic in my elementary. Are these subjects part of humanities? I didn't know... Meh :P...

[Skullflower]

Fuck school. Period. It's not hard, but I'm just lazy.

[FrankZ]

Fuck school. Period. It's not hard, but I'm just lazy.

Bull's eye. No one is dumb. Some are just better than the others. And some are just more studious than most.

[SgtHK]

BB, i disagree, physics do not boil down to maths.

Maths are totally independent of the environment and universe: you'll never see an equation give a different result if it is solved in a fridge or on the surface of the sun !

maths is its own bubble-universe: thats why i despise it !

Femiomal, your belief is flawed. There is nothing more true in the universe than Mathematics. Every mathematical principle, every formula created holds true in every condition and every situation.

Having said that you despise math since you were in school, I can say that you have failed to comprehend the true value of mathematics and thus you're not in position to judge it as what you think it is.

To tell you the truth, I too have failed in math alot of times in elementary and high-school. I believed that math is a totally abstract subject and has hardly any use in the real world, especially algebra.

But when I learned Trigonometry in 4th-year, I was amazed at how distances can be solved by the use of angles and their functions (sine, cosine, and tangent). I became interested in the subject more and more. I began to explore the other areas of math and the ways of integrating them into real life. I have found out that every branch of science revolves around mathematics; Physics, Computer programming, Biology, even Chemistry.

And I have come to the conclusion that mathematics is the incarnation of man's understanding of how everything in the universe works. From the simple law of the Pythagorean theorem (a-squared +b-squared = c-squared, therefore c = the square root of a-squared + b-squared) to the universal law of gravitation (the strength of a gravitational field is inversely proportional to the square of the distance, meaning if the moon doubles its distance from Earth, the Earth's gravity would affect it by only 1/4 as much). Mathematics is true in every way. It always gives you correct results every time, if you use the right method and sufficient data with it.

The problem with most people is that they focus on the more complex branches of mathematics with equations and formulas that a normal person can hardly think of understanding at all. That's why they say that Mathematics is fucked up. They can't see the simpler, more common, and everyday functions of math in daily life.

If you're counting your fingers, what are you using?
If you're trying to figure out how much change should you get from the cashier, what are you using?
If you're trying to safely and accurately calculate the height of a tall tree with nothing more than a protractor and a ruler, what are you using?

I am currently a 2nd-Year college student taking up engineering. And I am now an avid mathematician, a stark contrast from what I used to be in high-school. That's why I respect the power of math in every sense.

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Back on topic:
I think the hardest subject for me would be biology because it requires less analysis and more memorization, and I suck at memory :(

[femoimal]

believe me fella, I might have failed at algebra back in the old days, but I sure have seen it used in areas. I use mathematical algorithms very often when i am programing. I can hardly see how i can miss the mathematics point.

it is because maths is always true that physics cannot be boiled down to it. Chemistry is just physics with molecules, atoms, and electrons. Its basically the same thing. Linking in the same way physics and maths is preposterous. Physics use maths but maths don't care shit about physics. Laws of physics are bent when the environment changes, maths don't.

Still, it is good that the tool used to comprehend the universe is not affected by its local properties. But i just dare you give me a fucking mathematical model to predict exactly (eh, since maths is always true and accurate) the results of quantum mechanics phenomena. You cannot. Don't get confused.

I'd say philosophy is the hardest subject i had to face in high-school. How can a 15 years-old get a grip on existentialism, vitalism, aristotelician thought when all he wants to do is get laid ? :)

[FrankZ]

But in my opinion, the hardest and most boring subjects in high school are history and social studies (if you disagree, then I'd add "in the philippines, that is".).

I mean, who'd disagree? It is pretty boring to sit down all day and listen to a long litany of names and dates you've never even heard of... and be spoon fed and forced to memorize tons of events that happened before your grandpa was born. Thinking about it in a very lazy point of view: If in case someday I become a scientist, or a biologist, or an engineer, or a pilot, or whatever, you name it, why would I even want to study something I won't have use of later on?

[SgtHK]

Allow me to rephrase one of my previous sentences:
Mathematical principles are true in every way. They always give you correct results every time, if you use the right method and sufficient data with them.

Still, it is good that the tool used to comprehend the universe is not affected by its local properties. But i just dare you give me a fucking mathematical model to predict exactly (eh, since maths is always true and accurate) the results of quantum mechanics phenomena. You cannot. Don't get confused.
The Quantum branch of Physics is still very largely theoretical because the currently known principles in math can solve its problems only to a certain extent. For instance, quantum mechanics deals mostly with probability. And the goal of probability is to employ existing mathematical laws to calculate the chances of certain events happening in the future, not predicting exactly what will happen. So any mathematical application that implies prediction cannot obtain exact values, thus cannot be truly called "mathematical principles".

I use mathematical algorithms very often when i am programing. I can hardly see how i can miss the mathematics point.
And I can see why you despise it so much :/ Of course, you're a programmer. And you use only branches of math that are of use to you, i.e. computer algorithms. It's like a civil engineer being very knowledgeable about trigonometry, geometry and physics, but hardly knows anything about astronomy or orbital physics. Still that's not a good enough reason to generalize math as being totally abstract and in its own bubble-universe. The human race couldn't have made it this far without it and surely couldn't make it far out into the future without it as well.

But in my opinion, the hardest and most boring subjects in high school are history and social studies (if you disagree, then I'd add "in the philippines, that is".).

I mean, who'd disagree? It is pretty boring to sit down all day and listen to a long litany of names and dates you've never even heard of... and be spoon fed and forced to memorize tons of events that happened before your grandpa was born. Thinking about it in a very lazy point of view: If in case someday I become a scientist, or a biologist, or an engineer, or a pilot, or whatever, you name it, why would I even want to study something I won't have use of later on?
High school history is almost always handled by extremely boring teachers. Maybe that's why most students hate the subject. I hated history class as well, but it's because of the teachers, not the lesson.

I'm actually a history freak. I always enjoy watching historical documentaries in National Geographic or Discovery, especially World War II features. :)

[IrishDutchman]

Bull's eye. No one is dumb. Some are just better than the others. And some are just more studious than most.

Wrong. I do jack shit at school, and study less than most in my class. I still get the 2nd highest grades out of 30 people. I know kids that study their asses off and barely pass.
Some people just learn stuff quicker than others.

[QuothTheRaven]

Meh, geometry is really easy because you remember years after. Algebra knowledge degrades if you haven't used it in awhile.

[Lithium]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you all know that I made a 55 in my Quadratics bullshit test, and thus lowered my overall average to a 65.


And guess what?

No graphing calculators. I mean, what kind of ASSHOLE won't let their students use graphing calculators in fucking quadratics equation, huh? I'm very stressed out right now, and soon I won't even have time to visit my favorite internet hangout.

Any advice on doing quadratic equations without graphing calculators? lol

[SilverCrusader]

Any advice on doing quadratic equations without graphing calculators? lol
Practice, you learn shortcuts by practicing. You'll see things that happen all of the time that cause it to do a certain thing, and you'll be able to save time.

Math is the hardest for most. You know why? Because most people simply memorize things to ace tests. Say, memorizing facts and vocabulary for a science test. And your understanding of those memorized things help you in the so called, "critical thinking" problems. Unfortunately. Mathematics isn't easy memorization. It is a skill. You have to practice and practice over and over, after all practice makes perfect. It is just things we already knew in elementary applied at a higher level. If you don't see that you can never be good at mathematics.
My teacher claims there to be only 2 math operations; adding and multiplication.
In my beliefs there is only one; addition.

4^2 + 4 = 20
4 * 4 + 5 = 21
4 * 4 = 4 + 4 + 4 + 4
4 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 5 = 21

[GroG]

I always thought Home Ec was pretty hard. Don't laugh, though. I either put too much of some ingredient in my food and made it taste horribly, or I messed up making a pillow with the sowing machine and got a crappy grade.

Damn you, home ec! You ruined my life!

[SilverCrusader]

Meh, I'm good at cooking. Not so much with sewing. Give me some fishing line and a large needle and I've solved all my sewing problems.

[QuothTheRaven]

My geometry teacher was an idiot, and senile. We practically taught ourselves, if you could pass the first quarter with flying colors he let you slide for the rest of the year. As awesome as that sounds I began to realize the future repercussions and decided for once to take the initiative in my education and do the work regardless.

Anyways the reason there is no maximum age limit for teaching is because math teachers don't die. Stab them through the heart, put a silver bullet in their skull, nothing works. I tried soaking one in aircraft fuel then burning em, let's just say it could have gone better.

[hammocksleeper]

Any advice on doing quadratic equations without graphing calculators? lol
um, pay attention in class and learn how to factor?

[TheBB]

But i just dare you give me a fucking mathematical model to predict exactly (eh, since maths is always true and accurate) the results of quantum mechanics phenomena.

See attachment.

[FrankZ]

Aw come on, whoever said that math, or any aspect of it including geometry, calculus, and trigonometry is hard is fucking too dumb. Math is easy.

[IrishDutchman]

Bull's eye. No one is dumb. Some are just better than the others. And some are just more studious than most.

Aw come on, whoever said that math, or any aspect of it including geometry, calculus, and trigonometry is hard is fucking too dumb. Math is easy.

I don't really have anything to add. Just throwing it out there.

[Jaxander]

Out of the *listed* subjects, I'd say Physics, but then again my hardest High School class was, as had been outlined earlier, AP Chemistry.

[FrankZ]

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I don't really have anything to add. Just throwing it out there.

Yup, that's right, I said no one's dumb. But I never said no one is too dumb.

[SilverCrusader]

See attachment.

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As I said, mathematics is the code for the universe. It can predict things such as quantum mechanics. Nothing is ever random in the world. It can all be predicted. Random is a word given to something that takes too much effort to calculate.

[Gunmonk]

The hardest high school subject?

I'd have to say sex ed

[SgtHK]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you all know that I made a 55 in my Quadratics bullshit test, and thus lowered my overall average to a 65.


And guess what?

No graphing calculators. I mean, what kind of ASSHOLE won't let their students use graphing calculators in fucking quadratics equation, huh? I'm very stressed out right now, and soon I won't even have time to visit my favorite internet hangout.

Any advice on doing quadratic equations without graphing calculators? lol


LoL, in here, students are never allowed to use graphing calculators. We do our quadratics the hard way. Learn to live with that while you're still 14 :P

[masterofhobbiton]

Hardest subject is APUSH.

[IrishDutchman]

Yup, that's right, I said no one's dumb. But I never said no one is too dumb.

How can anybody be too dumb if being dumb isn't possible in the first place? Seriously, think about it. It makes no sense at all. Do you even believe what you're saying yourself? Because...wow.

[Thedutchjelle]

How can anybody be too dumb if being dumb isn't possible in the first place? Seriously, think about it. It makes no sense at all. Do you even believe what you're saying yourself? Because...wow.

It's probably some sort of complicated philosophy, but I think we're all to stupid to get it.;)

[Skullflower]

Wrong. I do jack shit at school, and study less than most in my class. I still get the 2nd highest grades out of 30 people. I know kids that study their asses off and barely pass.
Some people just learn stuff quicker than others.

Hey, way to go. I'm the same way. I sleep through my classes and get the highest grades on tests and benchmarks and shit. I finish the tests in maybe 10 minutes and get better grades than everyone who actually studies for it. It always trips out my teachers too.

[KillerKow]

LoL, in here, students are never allowed to use graphing calculators. We do our quadratics the hard way. Learn to live with that while you're still 14 :P

I've never used a graphing calculator for quadratic equations either... They're not hard O.o

[SilverCrusader]

Hey, way to go. I'm the same way. I sleep through my classes and get the highest grades on tests and benchmarks and shit. I finish the tests in maybe 10 minutes and get better grades than everyone who actually studies for it. It always trips out my teachers too.
Strange. I'm like you guys. Sure, I could sleep in class and still ace tests. But guess what? I actually study and do homework. I push myself harder than others even though it isn't required. Like doing every single problem in the section of a math book - even though we were only assigned six or so.
Sure we're getting approximately the same grade. But who is getting more out of it?

[SgtHK]

I've never used a graphing calculator for quadratic equations either... They're not hard O.o

I know they're not hard. You just have to memorize the quadratic formula. But using a graphics calculator makes it look hard to do by hand.

[GroG]

I used to never study in HS either and I got good grades. It was fun when I went to college all cocky and got my ass handed to me my first year. I actually ended up taking study skills the next year.. at community college with the rest of my classes.

Might want to think about at least getting a good study habit going now, even if it is easy, because if you don't guess what? There's a reason it's called a study habit, it's really hard to break if you've been doing it (or in my case, not doing it) for years.

Make your own mistakes, but just figured I'd tell you a little piece of what can happen if you let it.

[SilverCrusader]

I used to never study in HS either and I got good grades. It was fun when I went to college all cocky and got my ass handed to me my first year. I actually ended up taking study skills the next year.. at community college with the rest of my classes.

Might want to think about at least getting a good study habit going now, even if it is easy, because if you don't guess what? There's a reason it's called a study habit, it's really hard to break if you've been doing it (or in my case, not doing it) for years.

Make your own mistakes, but just figured I'd tell you a little piece of what can happen if you let it.
My friend did the same thing his first year of college. He came back and said. Do your homework and study, because I didn't do those things, and I regret it.
And well. I do it. Because it will pay off when I get to college.

Just in case you think your too smart and that college is a breeze - even Einstein failed his exams because he didn't study. He quickly changed.

[TheBB]

Einstein failed his exams because he didn't study. He quickly changed.

As far as I know he didn't change. He was just mediocre, period. It was only later that he contracted geniousness.

[DNCMF036]

Damn, I took the wrong summer class. I thought Physics was the hardest but it came out it's actually Geometry. SH********!!!!! Nagmahay na me!!! :cry:

[SilverCrusader]

As far as I know he didn't change. He was just mediocre, period. It was only later that he contracted geniousness.
In both biographies I've read about him I thought it said he changed. I have one with me now... Let me check...
Yeah, it says his attitude didn't change for them. The only reason he got a 4.91 (out of 6.00) is because he was incredibly good at mathematics and natural sciences.

Ahaha! Highschool geometry is easy. I'm doubled up in Geometry and Algebra II. And I will tell you Algebra is the harder of the classes. Then again we're allowed to use theorem notebooks with all of our theorems in it. Our teacher doesn't think memorizing a theorem will help you understand it.

[SgtHK]

Nagmahay na me!!!
Gaba nimo! :P

[TheBB]

Our teacher doesn't think memorizing a theorem will help you understand it.

This is true. On the other hand, if you want to understand a theorem you should read the proof. Read, reread, scrutinize until you get it. Parts which you don't find obvious you should try to prove yourself. Excellent training :).