My StarCraft Tattoo

[shinojoost]

Hey People, ive always loved starcraft. Maybe a bit to much...
I gotten someone to tattoo a Zealot on my back a few months ago and sort of started forgetting that i even had it.
So i decided to start showing it to the community and see what reactions come from it.

I expect a lot of people to say thats its stupid and a waste of money/body but i dont mind negative feedback so anything is welcome.

A video about it can be seen here.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ccqeWAJNrL4

this is one of the pictures taken a while back.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3769/pic1ii8.jpg

Sorry for the bad lighting.
And to be honest its only 95% done as i havent gone back to finish the swords yet...

Anyway, thanks for your time :)

[Cpt.Chronic]

That's actually really nice work. Props to the tattoo artist^^ What's the deal with his "tail" though?

Oh, and I just realized that's on your back, omg that tat is HUGE! How much did it cost?

[Protogod]

What's the deal with his "tail" though?



Thats a copy of the concept art. its not a tail, its part of the zealots long head-antannae thing.

[Ktan]

long head-antannae thing.
:o

Psionic Nerve Appendages!

And you call yourself a Protogod... :mad:

[shinojoost]

How much did it cost?


Actually not very much, its 25cm across (a bit more then 9inch i think). Ive had it done in England where i paid less then half the price that they asked in the netherlands. It was around 150-200 pounds i think.

[DoctorZettabyte]

Very nice...those colors are extremely hard to do well under normal tattoo conditions with one that size, and even more so with higher amounts. I suggest a generous tip to whoever did that for you...that takes extreme skill.

Very good selection, by the way. Could have been worse, like Kerrigan. Urgh. Green. Now you can't find that radioactive tumor anymore.[/bad_pun]

-DocTera

[DarkMirror]

That is really damn cool.
Although yes, somewhat overboard.

Also, you look cool. Your just... cool looking. And you sound badass.

[Basan]

It looks splendid, Shino'. :tup: A lil' overboard imho but a really well done tattoo. The brightest the colours, the harder it usually is to place'em under your skin since they have to go to deeper layers. An overall really nice piece of art work. ;)

Oh, and welcome on board too. :)

[TormentedGod]

That is the coolest thing ever because i saw at a tattoo place having gaming tatoo's and inside had a tychus and master cheif, i would of gotten tychus but cost $219.99

[Hydralisk1337]

Holy shit! It's okay to be addicted to SC, proves more of a blizzard fan you are! ^_^

[WhatIsStarcraft]

That's a good tattoo! And it is obvious that you are a SC fan.

[Alexisonfire]

you'll regret that one day

[shinojoost]

I'm only 23 and i already regret a lot of things dude.
But i live now and not "one day" in the future ;)

[Alexisonfire]

Bad way of looking at life it's very important to consider the future on major choices because all people are stupid at young ages.

[masterofhobbiton]

Man, it would suck if SC2 sucked or was cancelled like SCG... Noone would recognize it at all... T_T :D

[ChimTheGrim21]

I would've went with Zerg myself. :P

[T-Dawg]

Bad way of looking at life it's very important to consider the future on major choices because all people are stupid at young ages.

That's great logic -- what if a car hits you and you get struck dead tomorrow? Making that stupid and fun choice now would have been a great idea.
It's a simple existential paradigm -- one that I don't believe is any better or worse than the next way of viewing life, and I am not saying making plans for the future is a bad idea, its just about maximizing how you want to live life and what you want out of life.

Back on topic: Very cool tattoo, it looks badass. And if one day someone says that it is childish or stupid, i would respond: the zealot holds honor and sacrifice above all else, what greater symbol could I place on my corporeal flesh? *someone will say a cross or something I am sure*

[Cpt.Chronic]

That's great logic -- what if a car hits you and you get struck dead tomorrow? Making that stupid and fun choice now would have been a great idea.
It's a simple existential paradigm -- one that I don't believe is any better or worse than the next way of viewing life, and I am not saying making plans for the future is a bad idea, its just about maximizing how you want to live life and what you want out of life.

Back on topic: Very cool tattoo, it looks badass. And if one day someone says that it is childish or stupid, i would respond: the zealot holds honor and sacrifice above all else, what greater symbol could I place on my corporeal flesh? *someone will say a cross or something I am sure*
Well if you take probabilities into account, which you should, then Alex's logic is actually more sound than yours. You're basically saying there's nothing wrong with living your life like you're going to die tomorrow, but the probability of a healthy person living in a non-warzone area dying the next day is extremely slim, so it would be more logical to plan into the future as if you're not going to die tomorrow (or anytime soon for that matter).

[T-Dawg]

Cpt. Chronic I am more than willing to have a probability debate with you, but we should reserve that for an IR post or via PMing. Otherwise let's stick to the tattoo at hand.

On topic: Why did you choose the zealot as oppose to say a templar or archon?

[Cpt.Chronic]

Cpt. Chronic I am more than willing to have a probability debate with you, but we should reserve that for an IR post or via PMing. Otherwise let's stick to the tattoo at hand.


Actually, it's still on topic. Just because it is not in the narrow vein of discussing this particular tattoo does not mean it's off topic. Although, I suppose I understand if you do not want to debate something for which your initial stance defies logic.

[anderoo]

Actually, it's still on topic. Just because it is not in the narrow vein of discussing this particular tattoo does not mean it's off topic. Although, I suppose I understand if you do not want to debate something for which your initial stance defies logic.

gg no re

[T-Dawg]

How is this off topic?
1. The thread is talking about a tattoo. Particularly a StarCraft tattoo in a StarCraft forum. At the point where we either stop discussing StarCraft or tattoos the post is off-topic (in reality the thread should be about that particular tattoo or StarCraft tattoos at large).

2. You may try to reason that we are still talking about tattoos, but we are not as we have elevated the conversation into the philosophical debate of living in the short-term versus living in the long-term.

3. If you allow for linking of topics to qualify for “on-topic” I could then link talking about tattoos to talking about broccoli tattoos. At which point I can say I hate broccoli, and someone can say they hate Bush. A political discussion ensues. That discussion is still off-topic despite being linked with other topics.

How does my comment make logical sense?

First, let’s have the probability debate:

1. At the moment where you discuss taking into account probabilities you instantly fail. In no possible world can you take into account EVERY probability. Therefore, in order to live in the long term, you would have to spend your entire existence taking into account every possible option, doing nothing else before making a choice. You have thus wasted your entire life in indecision.

2. If you contend we should only take into account certain probabilities, you have provided no brightline to which probabilities we should take into account. Those over 75% only? Over 50%? Over 25%? Over 1%? I bet that if you are a home owner (or plan to be) you probably have or want to have home owners insurance that protects against fires. There were a total of 1,642,500 fires in 2006 (http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/statistics/national/index.shtm), 25% of those are residential. With total housing units of 126,311,823 (including those that are vacant!) there is a .3% chance that your house will even have a fire in America (http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ACSSAFFFacts). I bet you still have that home-owners insurance. Therefore strict probability is probably not what you are basing your long-term goals on. Therefore your argument has NO BRIGHTLINE as to when we should follow it; therefore we cannot use it as a moral standard.

3. Furthermore, due to Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, trying to figure out the probability of any singular REAL event is IMPOSSIBLE. Physical Laws prevent us from trying to figure things out. Not even that the system is too chaotic to just make it impractical, it is actually IMPOSSIBLE.

4. Living in the short-term GUARENTEES beneficial results that the long-term only can calculate as probable. Since probability has no brightline, we cannot follow it. Therefore we should live in the short-term since it provides REAL RESULTS, while long-term provides POSSIBLE RESULTS.

Let’s continue what my comment also entailed:

1. I am claiming that living in the short-term where there may be long-term regrets is a valid philosophy to live by. I link argument 4 of the probability debate to show why. Living in the short-term at least provides some benefits.

2. I don’t claim that short-term is a single day. I don’t even claim it to be any specific length of time. My brightline is that when you weigh making a decision, you value its immediate worth over emotional regret .That is to say that things like tattoos have NO MATERIAL RAMIFICATION on the person at hand , only a “I wish I never did that.” At the point where you weigh material ramifications you are simply doing a short-term cost-benefit analysis. IE There is no ability to bring up the event that the short-term philosophy would never buy a house, because the desire to own a house would factor into every short-term choice. This is to say that you can have a short-term desire that takes a long-term goal and still be living in the short-term. Summary: Short-term desires (ie buying a house) can create long-termed actions (ie saving the money to buy a house).

3. Also I raise an affirmative defense. Even if you destroy my whole short-term philosophy and prove it to be morally bankrupt, it doesn’t matter because I claimed it to be equally valid, and at the point where you can’t live by probabilities our values are both nil which are indeed equal.

[Neo]

See, this is why you can't have nice things.

-Neo