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Zerg_eater
01-03-2008, 2:04 PM
So, is anyone gonna watch it? When I saw it while watching Transformers I was intrested. It's based on Godzilla, because the director went to japan and saw some godzilla stuff.


THE MONSTER IS CHUTLU

Lithium
01-03-2008, 2:09 PM
Yeah, everyone was wondering what the hell it was. Seems cool.

EDIT: I've googled it...and it seems like it's spelled CTHULHU

And here's a picture:

http://www.apocprod.com/Pages/de_aequilibritatis_mundi/SB678_images/cthulhu.gif

DarkMirror
01-03-2008, 3:19 PM
Its not based on Godzilla, and its made by the guy who made LOST. All we really know from the new commercials is that:
1)Its all from a hand held cameras perspective.
2)The military doesn't really know what this thing is.
3)Something about it is infectious. People have been quarantined, and the medics pulled someone in yelling about "We have a bite!". The person was then dragged behind a curtain, screaming and thrashing.

Zerg_eater
01-03-2008, 3:54 PM
The monster is >.>, and I think the infectecious part answers the Comments for "OMG THE CRAB PEOPLE INFECTED THEMZ".

DarkMirror
01-03-2008, 4:14 PM
Uh, Z_E? Your not making any sense, dude. Have you been bitten? He has! Quarantine him, now! We have a bite! *Pulls Z_E, thrashing, behind a curtain*

Zerg_eater
01-03-2008, 4:21 PM
Er...Lemme Rephrase it. In youtueb commeents in the trailer people keep saying "ZOMG, CRAB PEOPLE ARE INFECTING PEOPLZ" or something like that. Now I know why, because something is infecting them.

And The movie was inspired by a toy godzilla.J. J. Abrams conceived of a new monster after he and his son visited a toy store in Japan. He explained, "We saw all these Godzilla toys, and I thought, we need our own monster, and not King Kong, King Kong's adorable. I wanted something that was just insane and intense."[9] In February 2007, Paramount Pictures secretly greenlit Cloverfield, to be produced by J. J. Abrams, directed by Matt Reeves, and written by Drew Goddard. The project was produced by Abrams' company, Bad Robot Productions.[10]
from wikipedia,

DarkMirror
01-03-2008, 4:27 PM
Alright, you win Z_E. Good job! *Throws lots of toys and candy at Z_E* But it wasn't actually "based" on Godzilla, just inspired by a toy of it.

TheOutcast
01-03-2008, 5:07 PM
Okay, are you serious that the monster is Cthulhu? That'd be pretty strange, I thought it was about a random alien monster. Because on Coming Soon.net they described the monster as "descending upon central park".

DarkMirror
01-03-2008, 5:13 PM
He was joking. I hope. But in truth, nobody knows, although I find it unlikely that its Cthulhu, to say the least.

Modred
01-03-2008, 6:06 PM
He was joking. I hope. But in truth, nobody knows, although I find it unlikely that its Cthulhu, to say the least.

There's been speculation of all sorts of things, from H.P. Lovecraft (so Cthulhu, most likely), to a live-action Voltron (well, I assume Voltron would smash the alien, not be the alien). But while the latter seems unlikely, the former could work.

DarkMirror
01-03-2008, 7:24 PM
I also heard of Voltron, although I think that they denied that.

Skullflower
01-03-2008, 8:25 PM
3)Something about it is infectious. People have been quarantined, and the medics pulled someone in yelling about "We have a bite!". The person was then dragged behind a curtain, screaming and thrashing.

Theres more to that scene. At the end she starts swelling up and then the scene cuts away.

Magmaniac
01-03-2008, 8:45 PM
You people should read the wikipedia article on cloverfield.

A lot of the stuff about the movie is secretive, but from what I have read it is either a new monster created for this movie or it is something along cthulhu lines.

DarkMirror
01-03-2008, 8:59 PM
I am aware of that, and I have read the article.

kongurous
01-03-2008, 11:55 PM
Requisitioning an increase in post quality, stat!

IrishDutchman
01-04-2008, 6:24 PM
Sounds like Michael Bay gone 'Blair Witch Project'. The subjective camera works in Blair Witch, but I don't think it will be great in a blockbuster like Cloverfield.
If they do the entire movie that way, I'm not watching it.

DarkMirror
01-04-2008, 6:33 PM
It looks fine from what I saw, although a few scenes might have been actual cameras.

Zerg_eater
01-04-2008, 6:54 PM
poopoo

DarkMirror
01-04-2008, 7:01 PM
New commercials have started, this makes number 3.
Seemingly all from hand held perspective.

Faiien
01-04-2008, 8:29 PM
imo its just a new marketing ploy -_-
its simple really
audience cat has no idea wtf is happening
cat gets curious
cat finds out that the truth really wasnt that exciting
the end ^^

Toucan
01-05-2008, 8:27 PM
I quite like the look of this. I use to sit up at night when I was a boy to watch Godzilla and stuff. Would sneak down after my parents would go to bed and put on the creature features, as they where called at the time.
Monster Zero was my favorite though, he could kick all there asses.

Did anyone notice that the Star Trek XI teasers are going to be released with Cloverfield?

britishbrat
01-06-2008, 4:17 AM
I think that it's gonna be a great movie. The perspectine adds to suspense and realisim.

Faiien
01-07-2008, 9:22 AM
viral videos for cloverfield
the three videos at the bottom are in a different language but they all talk about the same thing so theres no need to watch all three of them. Enjoi
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/06/video-footage-of-cloverfield-monster-destroying-chaui-station-rob-hired-by-slusho/

Icarus
01-07-2008, 6:43 PM
I'm seeing it opening day. I love a good monster movie, and the fact that it's much more hitchcocky is awesome. I can't wait to find out what it is!

btw, whatever happened to that one 30-day period where the entire ML, and other parts of WB, were basically obsessed with cthulhu?

britishbrat
01-07-2008, 10:19 PM
I really want to see it!!!

Skullflower
01-07-2008, 10:35 PM
I'm seeing it opening day. I love a good monster movie, and the fact that it's much more hitchcocky is awesome. I can't wait to find out what it is!

btw, whatever happened to that one 30-day period where the entire ML, and other parts of WB, were basically obsessed with cthulhu?

That was the warboards presidential election thing or something similar to that. I honestly dont remember much though.

Faiien
01-09-2008, 7:32 PM
i found a huge article about cloverfield
if anyone is willing to summarize it that would be awesome lol
http://laist.com/2008/01/09/laist_interview_88.php

IrishDutchman
01-10-2008, 1:08 PM
btw, whatever happened to that one 30-day period where the entire ML, and other parts of WB, were basically obsessed with cthulhu?

It was the warboards presidential election, and c'thulhu was in the running. That explains all the 'C'thulhu 2008' sigs and stuff.

Faiien
01-10-2008, 9:41 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRerxYg4Sh4
interview interview interview!!!

Zerg_eater
01-10-2008, 11:49 PM
Nice Monster footage and nice quote

The concept for the monster (affectionately known simply as "Clover" in-house) is simple, says Abrams. "He's a baby. He's brand-new. He's confused, disoriented and irritable. And he's been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years."
Abrams also says at one point the creature scratches the back of its head on top of a building to shrug off the parasites
that attack the humans so the creature and the parasites are 2 different entities not working together!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY4-drOE38s&feature=related

Faiien
01-13-2008, 11:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/ignatz/album%2034/cloverfield4flat.jpg
http://wayangtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/cloverfield-monster-picture.jpg
2 concepts of what the monster may look like
very interesting indeed

TheOutcast
01-14-2008, 12:48 AM
Yeah so ummm, If I saw that monster in real life, I'd probably shit myself five times over.

Wouldn't it be weird if the monster really was cthulhu?

Zerg_eater
01-14-2008, 7:38 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/ignatz/album%2034/cloverfield4flat.jpg[/IMG]
http://wayangtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/cloverfield-monster-picture.jpg[/IMG]
2 concepts of what the monster may look like
very interesting indeed
I saw the second one on youtube.

Toucan
01-18-2008, 9:12 AM
Cloverfield is a direct duplicate of Godzilla (In artistic concept), witch from an American point of view is extremely interesting.
Godzilla is an artistic depiction of the explosions that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Cloverfield is quite blatantly an artistic representation of terrorism and specifically the September 11 attacks on New York.

Although its extremely old, I highly recommend watching the 1966 original version of Godzilla for comparison. It's not a fantastic old film by any measure of the word, but it is interesting.

Comparing the two makes for some interesting thinking.


EDIT: Got the date of the first movie wrong. 1954 was the first movie. Damn, what the hell was I thinking of, that's miles away.

Icarus
01-19-2008, 12:15 AM
One word: EPIC. FUCKIN EPIC.

You know you hear those stories about those guys who saw the first star wars movie at the first screening, and how they remember that forever? That's what this was like. From the handheld camera POV, it felt so insanely real. The people were real, the effects looked real, the feel of just everything looked real. I'm just so phazed right now, It's been only about an hour since it finished and I still can't get over how much of an awesome movie it was... I'll edit this post once i'm settled heh

Cloverfield is quite blatantly an artistic representation of terrorism and specifically the September 11 attacks on New York.


I've read reviews that suggest this, and it's complete bullshit. There were only 2 minutes in the movie that looked remotely like 9/11. The kind of people who said this were obviously prejudiced and were LOOKING for shit in the movie to rip on.

Toucan
01-19-2008, 12:30 AM
How is that a rip on it? I think it's a compliment to it.
A reason for the artistic expression is better than no reason.

Magmaniac
01-19-2008, 4:10 AM
I saw this tonight and I must say it is definitely one of the best movies I have seen in a while. I would support seeing it two or three times if you could.
The monster looks somewhat like a mix between the ones in Fallen's post above, and the things that drop off of it reminded me of zerglings.

Galiant
01-19-2008, 4:31 AM
so... why was it titled 'cloverfield'? wats the significance of the title and the movie

Magmaniac
01-19-2008, 4:37 AM
No idea. The only mention of 'cloverfield' was at the beginning when it said something on the screen along the lines of

"This is document 51276 of cloverfield situation.
Found at _______ at ##:## on may whatever"

idk the actual wording or w/e but it was like a title screen for an evidence document thing.

Zerg_eater
01-19-2008, 1:56 PM
I saw it last night in Hollywood :D. It was pretty cool

Thedutchjelle
01-19-2008, 1:57 PM
I saw it last night in Hollywood :D. It was pretty cool

You fail with tags. Pretty bad.

Skullflower
01-19-2008, 2:43 PM
so... why was it titled 'cloverfield'? wats the significance of the title and the movie

Government Designation

Zerg_eater
01-19-2008, 2:43 PM
You fail with tags. Pretty bad.
I see no tags

kongurous
01-19-2008, 4:25 PM
I just got back from seeing it. I thought it sucked! Check hide tags for details.

Graphics: Graphically, the movie is impressive. The cities look convincing, the monsters were beautiful, the planes and helicopters flew well, everything looked like they went to incredible lengths to make it look convincing. Plus the monster looked like a gigantic Genestealer. However, this works against the movie with the CONSTANT SHAKING. I'm sorry to anyone who liked this, but it isn't hard to hold a camera level or straight. Even if you're drunk, even if you're in a scary situation. Especially since all cameras have stabilization in them these days. It's a little box with a lens at the end. It's not hard to figure out. Shaking is going to happen, that's a given. You can't avoid shaking, but shaking for no real reason? The camera being at unleveled except... once in the entire movie? Come on now. Also, what was with the monster arbitrarily changing size? I'd give it an 8 out of 10 for realism if it didn't give me a headache because they went overboard. 6 of 10.

Audio: The audio was amazing. The monster sounded good, the city being destroyed sounded good, everything sounded good. No complaints here. 9 of 10.

Story: What little there was did not move me or invoke any emotional response from me whatsoever. I understand it was supposed to look like a home video and thus I logically shouldn't care, but this is a review, not a dicking fest. 4 of 10 for lack of a decent plot, but the Monster part of the monster movie was quite awesome, if slightly reminiscent of a Genestealer so that gets an 8 of 10.

Ending notes: if they hadn't gone overboard with the shaking, I might have liked it more, but as it stands right now, I'm not a fan. Cloverfield gets a 6.7/10 overall.

West
01-19-2008, 4:52 PM
just watched this.. it was good, but i sat too close to the screen and
i felt like throwing up towards the end.


spoiler
i never really got this part, what happened
to the girl when they were in the store and everyone was screaming "SHE'S BEEN BIT SHE'S BEEN BIT OMFG!!!!1!!!1!!" what happened?

also i think it's called clover field cause they ended up dying in central park, aka clover field

Icarus
01-19-2008, 6:40 PM
You have to recognize that this isn't supposed to be from some sort of book, it isn't meant to have a story. It's supposed to give you the subjective feeling of living through this chaotic event, running around, getting scared, attacked, friends dying, etc. This wasn't written by Jane Austen. It's a monster movie. It's meant to be realistic while fantastic, and interactive. In that respect, I honestly can't think of a better movie. Just the fact it was 1st person was so much different, and better I might add, then the approach of other monster movies.

I'm sure there's going to be much more information on the DVD.
How is that a rip on it? I think it's a compliment to it.
A reason for the artistic expression is better than no reason.
Well right after I saw it, I remember picking up my newspaper and reading this article that was not accurate and all it did was bash on the movie, and used phrases such as "commodify-ing 9/11", and the fact that it misrepresented the movie so much just pissed me off.

Moser
01-20-2008, 12:12 AM
Godzilla + Blair Witch Project. Story line sucked they should have given more about how the Monster got to even be there..

DarkMirror
01-20-2008, 1:53 AM
How would the people filming this know how the hell the monster got there?

Zerg_eater
01-20-2008, 1:55 AM
What DarKMirror Said, and Moser, did you read this?
You have to recognize that this isn't supposed to be from some sort of book, it isn't meant to have a story. It's supposed to give you the subjective feeling of living through this chaotic event, running around, getting scared, attacked, friends dying, etc. This wasn't written by Jane Austen. It's a monster movie. It's meant to be realistic while fantastic, and interactive. In that respect, I honestly can't think of a better movie. Just the fact it was 1st person was so much different, and better I might add, then the approach of other monster movies.

kongurous
01-20-2008, 2:03 AM
Regardless of what it was supposed to be, the plot was non-existent. Circumstances apply, yes, but barring those, the plot just wasn't there. A monster attacks, it's the (shaky) story about how some people dealt with it. Complete with terrible acting and too much shaking.

In fact, I should make a movie. It's going to be shot with a cam corder, it's going to feature me running through the streets of downtown Jacksonville, breathing heavily and shaking the camera unnecessarily with some loud noises. I'm going to call it "Rosemeadow" and watch the money just roll in and immediately line my pockets in gold-encrusted diamond.

Darmago
01-20-2008, 2:59 AM
All that the cloverfield monster(I like to call him Chuckles) wanted was hugs...

then he hugged an oil tanker...

and the oil tanker hugged back with fire...

Chuckles didn't like being hugged with fire.

Toucan
01-20-2008, 7:08 AM
Well right after I saw it, I remember picking up my newspaper and reading this article that was not accurate and all it did was bash on the movie, and used phrases such as "commodify-ing 9/11", and the fact that it misrepresented the movie so much just pissed me off.
The funny thing is though, it just makes the reporters look like idiots, personifying the immensity of human fear is what the kaiju art form is all about. Expecting it to be anything other than what it is just shows they know sweet FA about the subject. This was an American kaiju, the personification of the fear and confusion people felt on the day, during the disaster, at ground zero on September 11 and the fear people feel in regard to terrorism ever since.

As I said before it really is a duplicate of the original concept behind Godzilla.
the original Godzilla, attempted to portray Godzilla as a frightening, nuclear monster. Godzilla was a representation of the fears that many Japanese held about the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as well as the fear of those types of attacks occurring again. As the series progressed, so did Godzilla, changing into a less destructive and more heroic character as the films became increasingly geared towards children.

I agree there was no plot, and seeing the beast fall from the sky into the ocean at the end of the film (Behind them as they sat on the ferris wheel, saying they had had a good day.) was no substitute for an explanation of where the beast had come from, but, this film was not meant to have a plot or explanation. It was an 8 hour outtake of a disaster. Who in the middle of a disaster knows what the hell is going on and why? I think the plotlessness of the movie was very intended.

I agree the cam was annoyingly shaky and I think pointless to the movie, we could have followed along with a group of people trying to survive more effectively than one of them having to film it to. In fact it even seems like a wasted opportunity for some awesome cinematography.

In that scene in central park where you saw the monster at full height, did anyone else think it looked way to small? It really seemed way to small to be so tough and be able to reach the helicopter in the air the way it did.

I dare say no.2 is already in pre-production.
At the end of the credits there is some garbled radio static with some unidentifiable words. According to a few things I have read here and there it was actually a recording played backwards that simply says "It's still alive".

kongurous
01-20-2008, 11:27 AM
I agree there was no plot, and seeing the beast fall from the sky into the ocean at the end of the film (Behind them as they sat on the ferris wheel, saying they had had a good day.) was no substitute for an explanation of where the beast had come from

Abrams said that the monster had been underwater for awhile and that it was waking up, confused and disoriented and smashing a city, but I really just don't like how the guy produces stuff. It's never a good idea to tell everyone everything too fast, but this guy seems to love taking it to the extreme.

In that scene in central park where you saw the monster at full height, did anyone else think it looked way to small? It really seemed way to small to be so tough and be able to reach the helicopter in the air the way it did.

That's part of why I didn't like it, just little things that didn't make sense (such as the monster changing size).

I dare say no.2 is already in pre-production.
At the end of the credits there is some garbled radio static with some unidentifiable words. According to a few things I have read here and there it was actually a recording played backwards that simply says "It's still alive".

They also said "subject is still active" even without reversing audio recordings.

Zerg_eater
01-20-2008, 2:00 PM
The funny thing is though, it just makes the reporters look like idiots, personifying the immensity of human fear is what the kaiju art form is all about. Expecting it to be anything other than what it is just shows they know sweet FA about the subject. This was an American kaiju, the personification of the fear and confusion people felt on the day, during the disaster, at ground zero on September 11 and the fear people feel in regard to terrorism ever since.

As I said before it really is a duplicate of the original concept behind Godzilla.


I agree there was no plot, and seeing the beast fall from the sky into the ocean at the end of the film (Behind them as they sat on the ferris wheel, saying they had had a good day.) was no substitute for an explanation of where the beast had come from, but, this film was not meant to have a plot or explanation. It was an 8 hour outtake of a disaster. Who in the middle of a disaster knows what the hell is going on and why? I think the plotlessness of the movie was very intended.

I agree the cam was annoyingly shaky and I think pointless to the movie, we could have followed along with a group of people trying to survive more effectively than one of them having to film it to. In fact it even seems like a wasted opportunity for some awesome cinematography.

In that scene in central park where you saw the monster at full height, did anyone else think it looked way to small? It really seemed way to small to be so tough and be able to reach the helicopter in the air the way it did.

I dare say no.2 is already in pre-production.
At the end of the credits there is some garbled radio static with some unidentifiable words. According to a few things I have read here and there it was actually a recording played backwards that simply says "It's still alive".Did you forget the Hide tags?
and The monster did seem too small. It looked Huge but, then, it looked just about the size of a 3 story building :|

Icarus
01-20-2008, 3:28 PM
seeing the beast fall from the sky into the ocean at the end of the film (Behind them as they sat on the ferris wheel, saying they had had a good day.)
I dare say no.2 is already in pre-production.

@hidden:Whoa I didn't even see that. Did that actually happen?

I hope that instead of having a full-fledged sequel which would probably just be more of the same thing, they have a sort of mock-government-report involving other films that show more info, or something like that.

As to the beast changing size, a simple explanation would be that it was not always upright. Most of the time I could never tell what kind of posture it was in, because you mostly see just portions of the monster's body. I don't remember any full-body shot

kongurous
01-20-2008, 4:14 PM
As to the beast changing size, a simple explanation would be that it was not always upright. Most of the time I could never tell what kind of posture it was in, because you mostly see just portions of the monster's body. I don't remember any full-body shot

The thing was never upright, it was always crawling along. It was certainly long the entire movie, but its height and proportion changed far too much to make sense.

Jimmy_the_saint
01-20-2008, 5:52 PM
Shitloads of spoilers.

At the end where they are in the ferris wheel and you can see the cruise ship if you look abit to the left of it youll see it drop out of the sky into the horizon. And yeah the little beasties reminded me of Zerg as well and mad funny noises. NOM NOM NOM. And I also have an explanation of why it seemed smaller. It has (from what I could see) a few joints down the length of its leg so it could of been crouching in CP and been at full length elsewhere and that would also explain the out-of-proportionness. The monster could of also used its tail to propel itself into the helicopter which leads me to the next statement.

Did anyone else notice that the big mob seemed to be following the party people. Cause When they where saving Beth you saw the mob coming to the building where they where at and being bombed from the front. It lunged at the helicopter after being bombed. I assume this thing has the capability to hear so after having a shitload of bombs dropped on you you wouldnt be able to hear the 'copter. So I found that it seemed to sense where the people where also appearing seemingly at random right before they go underground and get attacked by the "Zerglings"

Tell me what you think of my theories.

Zerg_eater
01-20-2008, 5:58 PM
You're theories are good.

How come I never saw the ferris wheel black thing part? And if it was in earth, then could that mean, that thing would've woken the baby up? Oh, btw. You were talking about mobs. What do you mean? the zerglings? lol.


EDIT
Taken from a website talking about this "Cloverfield Ending Credits

At the credits ending of Cloverfield, *Spoilers* the audio from the video cam says, "Help us!". But when played backwards, it says, "It's still alive!" This happens after the end credits of Cloverfield. Assuming the speaker was Rob, he suggests Cloverfield (the monster) is still alive. This also suggests a sequel for Cloverfield 2! *Spoilers*

The Japanese oil company TAGRUATO drops a satellite (Chimpanz III) into the ocean as part of viral marketing (shown at the end of the movie when Rob and Beth were on the ferris wheel). TAGRUATO works with SLUSHO (a slush company), as the main ingredient for SLUSHO is found at the satellite dropzone (deep ocean). While searching for satellite and ingredients, they woke Cloverfield (the monster).

The main ingredient of Slusho apparently turns a tiny fish into a HUGE whale, which explains the size of Cloverfield.

Rob apparently was going to be the Vice President of TAGRUATO in Japan.

Source from: http://www.cloverfieldendingcredits.com" Ah so I was right! the thing that fell could've woken up the baby, and/or made a fish turn HUGEEEEE

Kingscrab
01-20-2008, 8:44 PM
The movie was pretty good. Lack of plot and explanation for the monster was irrelevant. This movie was simply meant to be a survialist hand-cam adventure and nothing more. The movie definately accomplished what it set out to do, and any complaints I had were pretty minor. The only real problem (for me anyway) was the shaky hand-cam. I "get it"; it was supposed to be a Blair Witchesque filming style, but sadly, I found it physically exhausting to watch.

While I give the film high marks, it's a one time view for me, which is too bad.

I think they could have left the end of the credits with a better teaser than just one line of obscure dialogue. I think it would have been neat if they would have also added something like a 2 second shot of a busted up inland city sign or a trashed city scape (like Philly or something) to imply that the monster was alive and marching inland... Just a thought.

Zerg_eater
01-20-2008, 10:03 PM
I think the only one that survived was the girl in the other heli. Maybe she could be in the sequel, and like, get attacked.

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Jimmy_the_saint
01-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Z_E you still have yet to explain why it seemed to be following them around.

kongurous
01-20-2008, 10:48 PM
Indeed, the monster seemed attracted to the camera.

DarkMirror
01-20-2008, 11:09 PM
Maybe it was attracted to the EM? As unlikly as that seems (Them being in a city and all, massive power there), fish use a basic sense of EM to help them navigate/avoid being eaten/find prey.

Zerg_eater
01-20-2008, 11:26 PM
Z_E you still have yet to explain why it seemed to be following them around.
it was? I thought they were follwing it.

Toucan
01-21-2008, 1:31 AM
I was thinking today.

If we assume that the director would not make such a silly mistake as to get the size of the beast wrong in so many shots, then there is only one possibility, even though somewhat unexpected.

There was more than 1 beast.

Zerg_eater
01-21-2008, 1:37 AM
I really doubt that :|

ALL OUR GUESTS ARE COMING FROM GOOGLE SERIOUSLY

Jimmy_the_saint
01-21-2008, 2:00 AM
I was thinking today.

If we assume that the director would not make such a silly mistake as to get the size of the beast wrong in so many shots, then there is only one possibility, even though somewhat unexpected.

There was more than 1 beast.

Acctually I agree with that.
No-one said they where pests, the things dropping off it, so they could infact, if not killed by the military, evolved into more of them. It would also explain when Hud was looking up into it before it killed him there where the red bubbles next to its head and when it attacked the helicopter none could be seen. This would also explain the reversed "Help us" saying "It's still alive" as if they didnt know what the original one looked like they would not be able to tell the difference between that one or a different one.

If they where parasites (things dropping off big mob) they would of prefered him to eat as opposed to humans and turned around and jumped back on. This leads me to believe that they are big mobs spawn.

I have yet to come up with a theory why it was attacking the Protagonists.

Zerg_eater
01-21-2008, 2:05 AM
AH, I think Im getting clear with that point. But...now it sounds like starship troopers... Well, if they did a hammer down...thingy.. there should be atleast one right? I hope so.

Toucan
01-21-2008, 2:17 AM
ALL OUR GUESTS ARE COMING FROM GOOGLE SERIOUSLY
All our guests are spiders searching for pirate copies of cloverfield.

Kingscrab
01-21-2008, 11:44 AM
I think you guys are reading into this film WAY too much. :D

Zerg_eater
01-21-2008, 12:56 PM
Well, its interesting!

Icarus
01-21-2008, 5:18 PM
how the hell is "it's still alive" the backwards form of "help us"? The first phrase has 4 syllables, and the 2nd only 2 lol

Whoa that's not a bad inference, more than one monster...

Jimmy_the_saint
01-21-2008, 5:43 PM
I think you guys are reading into this film WAY too much. :D

I think your an asshole.......but thats just me. :)

Yeah I know we might bu it's a damn good movie. Seeing it for the third time today.:cool:

Zerg_eater
01-21-2008, 5:49 PM
how the hell is "it's still alive" the backwards form of "help us"? The first phrase has 4 syllables, and the 2nd only 2 lol

Whoa that's not a bad inference, more than one monster...
Actually, I thought it was a little garbled like eivl lits ti

Toucan
01-22-2008, 5:45 AM
I think you guys are reading into this film WAY too much. :D
I think you are quite correct, but it's fun!!! :P

And you have to admit it is a very artistic movie with a hell of allot to talk about and read into.
Like an artist that tries to put a message to his painting, a director can do the same and some times they will do it scene after scene after scene, remember this is their art. Both a director and a canvass painter treat and perceive their work in a similar way.
A movie like this is like a painting, with concept and idea presented to you one after the other.
Though for some people this is just a silly movie about a giant monster smashing up a city, for others it truly is hours of fun just thinking about the artistic ideas within the film. Both views are correct in my mind, it is both of those things.

It surprises me that no one has brought up the most obvious statement of the whole movie, that being the directors belief that liberty has been lost. Witch also changes the identity of the monster itself some what, as anti-terrorism laws where brought in by the US itself. A suggestion perhaps that the US is its own worst enemy??

There are many very bold statements in this movie, a little to bold perhaps, the reason maybe they have been made in such a way.

Kingscrab
01-22-2008, 9:18 AM
It surprises me that no one has brought up the most obvious statement of the whole movie, that being the directors belief that liberty has been lost. Witch also changes the identity of the monster itself some what, as anti-terrorism laws where brought in by the US itself. A suggestion perhaps that the US is its own worst enemy??

There are many very bold statements in this movie, a little to bold perhaps, the reason maybe they have been made in such a way. Yeah Toucan, I know... I know... It is fun to discuss.

I PRAY that the monster is not inteded to be some metaphore for "lost liberty" or something retarded like that. What ever happened to just making a monster movie for the fun of watching it eat New York... I think your an asshole.......but thats just me. Over-react much? :rolleyes:

Toucan
01-22-2008, 9:28 AM
The monster didn't represent the loss of liberty, the beheading of lady liberty did. I believe the monster's intended metaphor was primarily terrorism, but in this instance its kind of suggested that the monster is metaphorically the US, as the loss of liberty can be interpreted as a self inflicted blow. The US is the traditional kaiju metaphor.

Icarus
01-22-2008, 9:38 AM
Also it's interesting to think that this metaphorical beast, which I agree probably represents the U.S.A., was awaken by a flying object crashing into it, if what they're saying is true. The satellite was supposedly made by japan, a foreign power. It's very fun when the artists leave so much room to play with

Kingscrab
01-22-2008, 9:49 AM
The monster didn't represent the loss of liberty, the beheading of lady liberty did. I believe the monster's intended metaphor was primarily terrorism, but in this instance its kind of suggested that the monster is metaphorically the US, as the loss of liberty can be interpreted as a self inflicted blow. The US is the traditional kaiju metaphor. Either that or it simply saw a giant sized "person/enemy" when it popped out of the water and it just felt like taking a swipe at it. ;)

Toucan
01-22-2008, 9:58 AM
Either that or it simply saw a giant sized "person/enemy" when it popped out of the water and it just felt like taking a swipe at it. ;)
If it where a news report I would agree.
But it's a movie and one the produces have gone for a very artistic point view, right from the method they chose to film it.

Edit: not that such a news report could ever occur, but you get my point I'm sure.

Kingscrab
01-22-2008, 10:05 AM
If it where a news report I would agree.
But it's a movie and one the produces have gone for a very artistic point view, right from the method they chose to film it.

Edit: not that such a news report could ever occur, but you get my point I'm sure. The fact that nowadays anyone who uses NYC in their movie MUST be making a reference to "terrorism" and/or "loss of freedoms", makes me want to puke. They should give Guliani a walk-on cameo.

I haven't read any interviews with the director so I don't know what his intent was. It sucks though when filmakers take a really fun, cool idea and just have to politicize it. Yawn. :tdown:

Icarus
01-22-2008, 10:09 AM
I would say that unless artists use their work for larger purposes, their work is useless. If you took all the symbolism out of Cloverfield, if you have it in an obscure unnamed town in an obscure unnamed country under completely hidden circumstances, and all you see is the monster destroying shit, it's not nearly as good and meaningful as it is now.

Kingscrab
01-22-2008, 10:23 AM
I would say that unless artists use their work for larger purposes, their work is useless. If you took all the symbolism out of Cloverfield, if you have it in an obscure unnamed town in an obscure unnamed country under completely hidden circumstances, and all you see is the monster destroying shit, it's not nearly as good and meaningful as it is now. There is nothing useless at all about entertainment simply for the sake of entertaining.

Not everything has to have deep meaning. I prefer to leave that to poets and not monster movie makers.

Magmaniac
01-22-2008, 3:09 PM
There is nothing useless at all about entertainment simply for the sake of entertaining.

Not everything has to have deep meaning. I prefer to leave that to poets and not monster movie makers.

The issue here is that you assume there is a difference between these two types of people.

Toucan
01-22-2008, 4:33 PM
The fact that nowadays anyone who uses NYC in their movie MUST be making a reference to "terrorism" and/or "loss of freedoms", makes me want to puke. They should give Guliani a walk-on cameo.

I haven't read any interviews with the director so I don't know what his intent was. It sucks though when filmakers take a really fun, cool idea and just have to politicize it. Yawn. :tdown:
Movie makers are the modern day poets, do you even have any idea about the original concept of Godzilla? I have only posted about it three times now.
And in the very first interview Abrams gave about Cloverfield he explained that he stated that he wanted to make an American monster. He wanted to get back to the roots of the original art form as it was the original art form that was so successful and spawned the entire genre.
The most recent Hollywood attempt of Godzilla sucked because they didn't treat it as kaiju art. There was no political statement as was always intended and as a result the movie was weightless and pointless.

This movie would be ridiculous without political statements.

Anyway, did you watch the interview? Did you read up on kaiju art? or are you just trying to annoy people discussing some thing you cant get your head around?

TheOutcast
01-22-2008, 9:17 PM
I'm going to see this movie tonight and see what it is like. :)

Kingscrab
01-22-2008, 10:18 PM
This movie would be ridiculous without political statements.

Anyway, did you watch the interview? Did you read up on kaiju art? or are you just trying to annoy people discussing some thing you cant get your head around? I already mentioned that I have no idea if the director had any sort of metaphorical meaning behind it.

Apparently all that shit is not as relevant to the quality of the film as you think, for even I, lowly and untrained in Godzilla folklore, thought the movie did a fine job as a straight-up suspenseful monster flick. I didn't even have to read into it or decipher it's supposed political undertones!! Go figure!

And I thought I was an movie snob! Sheesh. You're killing me here, Toucan! :rolleyes:

Jimmy_the_saint
01-23-2008, 2:25 AM
New theory that ISN'T about what the story means, but about he content. This is also a joint theory about there being two mobs. You see one fall out of the sky. It lives in the water and is able to grow and evolve in the water and makes it mostly impervious to weapons. Explosion at the begining of the movie could be caused by the second mob falling from the sky, and the reason it didn't get killed is because maybe it was staying in hiding.

Toucan
01-23-2008, 2:53 AM
I'm killing you????
I already mentioned that I have no idea if the director had any sort of metaphorical meaning behind it.
Well, why don't you find out?

With all due respect Kingscrab, if it was just a suspenseful monster movie to you and nothing more then you have already stated that, I don't understand why you feel a need to flame the discussion.

Kingscrab
01-23-2008, 8:25 AM
With all due respect Kingscrab, if it was just a suspenseful monster movie to you and nothing more then you have already stated that, I don't understand why you feel a need to flame the discussion. Show me where I started to flame. :confused:

Toucan
01-23-2008, 8:47 AM
Perhaps flaming is to strong a word, badgering then :P (Sorry Crab)

But come on, if you really would like to discuss it with me and you know I would love to, then do me the courtesy of being a little more open minded, instead of just dismissing a metaphorical reference that I believe was made, why not point out why the metaphorical reference was not made.

The monster (That traditionally is the personification of the peoples current greatest fear, for Americans this is terrorism.) turns an oil tanker on its head and takes off the head of lady liberty inside of 5 minutes. That is very metaphorical to me.

Kingscrab
01-23-2008, 9:43 AM
Well, yeah... Dude, of course I understand what you're saying. My point was that it's just a huge pet peeve of mine when flim makers take something fun like monster movies and just have to get up on the soap box and attach some sort of political statement to it.

I go to the movies to turn my brain off and be entertained. I want bread and circus! Scare me, amuse me and thrill me but for christsake stop preaching to me!! Uhg. I'll watch Hardball when I want to hear political opinions.

Magmaniac
01-23-2008, 5:05 PM
Well, yeah... Dude, of course I understand what you're saying. My point was that it's just a huge pet peeve of mine when flim makers take something fun like monster movies and just have to get up on the soap box and attach some sort of political statement to it.

I go to the movies to turn my brain off and be entertained. I want bread and circus! Scare me, amuse me and thrill me but for christsake stop preaching to me!! Uhg. I'll watch Hardball when I want to hear political opinions.

I fucking hate people who say this.
Movies should provoke thought and meaning. Statements like this are only found in the idiotic brainwashed American public. OMG GUNS AND EXPLOSIONS AND TOILET HUMOR MAKES GOOD MOVIES I DON'T NEED A COMPLEX PLOT OR ANYTHING CHARACTERISTIC OF GOOD MOVIES WHATSOEVER DER DER DERRRR

Zerg_eater
01-23-2008, 7:07 PM
I second what magmaniac said. Even if a movi has OMG GUNS AND EXPLOSIONS AND HUMOR and s***. Doesn't mean it will always be good. To me, When I watch a movie like cloverfield. I wanted to feel like I was in it, and I wanted to know a lot of crap about it. Not just EVERYONE DIES and stuff.

TheOutcast
01-23-2008, 10:46 PM
I only go to see a movie if it has a good storyline or special effects. Looks like I'm in the bandwagon of general brainwashed American public.

This movie I want to see though, because it looks awesome and "riveting" at the same time with the monster and the special effects.

Kingscrab
01-24-2008, 10:23 AM
I fucking hate people who say this.
Movies should provoke thought and meaning. Statements like this are only found in the idiotic brainwashed American public. OMG GUNS AND EXPLOSIONS AND TOILET HUMOR MAKES GOOD MOVIES I DON'T NEED A COMPLEX PLOT OR ANYTHING CHARACTERISTIC OF GOOD MOVIES WHATSOEVER DER DER DERRRR OOHREALLY!!DO YOU!!!THAT'SJUSTSUPER!

I never said anything about not liking movies with complex plot.
I never said I enjoyed toilet humor. Brainwashed American public? It's fun to generalize isn't it? :D

Really, man, you need to take your medication. That GIANT TEXT SIZE is burning out everyone's eyes.

Magmaniac
01-24-2008, 8:14 PM
I never said those things about you, I was mocking the general american public after placing you in that group, meaning that you may or may not subscribe to the aformentioned views.
Edit: DER DER DERRRRRRRRR

Kingscrab
01-24-2008, 9:26 PM
I never said those things about you, I was mocking the general american public after placing you in that group, meaning that you may or may not subscribe to the aformentioned views.
Edit: DER DER DERRRRRRRRR Nice try. :rolleyes:

Here's a shovel you can use to dig yourself out of that hole.

TheOutcast
01-25-2008, 12:55 PM
I saw this movie last night and it was pretty cool, I just wanted to know a little more about the monster though....

Toucan
01-25-2008, 1:14 PM
I saw this movie last night and it was pretty cool, I just wanted to know a little more about the monster though....

Well, as I see it, the monster can be taken as a metaphorical personification of terrorism or possibly even a metaphorical personification of the US, in scenes where I think the monster is used to define the US, it is to suggest that the US is its own worst enemy. However, I thought that the monster could only really be the personification of the US when it took the head of Lady Liberty as enacting anti-terrorism law was a choice of the US.

As well as stating a belief that terrorism had destroyed both liberty and turned the oil industry on its head the director also made a strong statement that people that become suicide bombers are sick!! And are as much a victim to all of this as anyone else.

There is alot in this movie, it is one huge artistic statement from start to finish.

Zerg_eater
01-25-2008, 7:17 PM
I just read on Wiki that there is a possible sequel. Because, in the Bridge scen-
The brooklyn bridge scene, hud sees another guy recording with a camera before he looks at the decapitated head of the statue. then he looks again, and the other guy with the camera is looking at him. So there is a possible way that there is gonna be a cloverfield 2 with different people on it.

West
01-25-2008, 10:33 PM
that'd be pretty kool, maybe it would show a little more info on the mionster and improve
what they sucked in the original.

Galiant
01-25-2008, 11:08 PM
I just read on Wiki that there is a possible sequel. Because, in the Bridge scen-
The brooklyn bridge scene, hud sees another guy recording with a camera before he looks at the decapitated head of the statue. then he looks again, and the other guy with the camera is looking at him. So there is a possible way that there is gonna be a cloverfield 2 with different people on it.


hat sounds a bit stupid... But really hope it does have a sequel

Giggilyomeromicon
01-25-2008, 11:10 PM
Well, as I see it, the monster can be taken as a metaphorical personification of terrorism or possibly even a metaphorical personification of the US, in scenes where I think the monster is used to define the US, it is to suggest that the US is its own worst enemy. However, I thought that the monster could only really be the personification of the US when it took the head of Lady Liberty as enacting anti-terrorism law was a choice of the US.

As well as stating a belief that terrorism had destroyed both liberty and turned the oil industry on its head the director also made a strong statement that people that become suicide bombers are sick!! And are as much a victim to all of this as anyone else.

There is alot in this movie, it is one huge artistic statement from start to finish.

...you ever think that you're, you know, thinking too far into this?

Toucan
01-26-2008, 1:58 AM
Yes, but thats what its for.
I am certain these metaphorical statements are correct, even obvious. I'm pretty sure there are more as well.
Still would be good to locate some post release interviews with the director to get more of an idea of how far he went with it.

Defiler22134
01-26-2008, 6:35 PM
i just saw cloverfield! SCARY AND AWESOME! I LOVED THE SCENE WHERE THEY GET THE IMPALED GIRL OUT

DoctorZettabyte
01-26-2008, 7:07 PM
I'd love to go see Cloverfield, but I've heard it makes people motion sick. I personally get motion sick very easily, but never while playing video games, which also can get people really sick after just a few minutes. Any thoughts?

-DocTera

TinyDancer
01-26-2008, 7:12 PM
I've never gotten motion sick before in my life, and I felt a little queasy. Not bad enough to leave, but enough to be a little bit bothersome.

If you're prone to motion sickness, you'll probably yarp. Bring a barf bag if you decide to see it, or at least sit on the aisle seat so you can run out quickly.

Defiler22134
01-26-2008, 7:12 PM
its not that bad. probably like a few camera shake, like. try shaking your head up and down fast. for a second

kongurous
01-26-2008, 7:14 PM
its not that bad. probably like a few camera shake, like. try shaking your head up and down fast. for a second

It's bad enough to make my head hurt for a really long time. And I don't get motion sick.

TinyDancer
01-26-2008, 7:15 PM
It's a lot of camera shaking. In fact, the camera doesn't stop shaking at all during the entire thing, not even when the guy holding it is standing still.

Giggilyomeromicon
01-26-2008, 7:24 PM
The constant shaking did get a little annoying, but I never felt sick.

Toucan
01-26-2008, 7:38 PM
I found the shaky handicam quite annoying after a while as well, never felt sick or uncomfortable in any way from it but it was definitely annoying.
I don't think a handicam was ever meant to watched on a cinema screen.

TheOutcast
01-26-2008, 8:29 PM
I found the shaky handicam quite annoying after a while as well, never felt sick or uncomfortable in any way from it but it was definitely annoying.
I don't think a handicam was ever meant to watched on a cinema screen.
We got some clear shots of the monster, but that's only like 2 seconds of it. But I know what you mean.

Defiler22134
01-26-2008, 8:49 PM
I really want to -Edited-, just because I wanna research stuff and Tear apart the movie for answers! MOAR ANSOOWERS

Dusty
01-27-2008, 10:46 AM
There is nothing stopping you from going to the movies then coming home to research it. Anyhow I found the shakeycam really helped the atmosphere of the movie even if it did get old. I love how even though there was a big poster on the box office window warning you about motion sickness a lady was complaining to the manager demanding a refund becuase she had to go to the restroom during the movie.

Battlecruiser
01-27-2008, 6:51 PM
I watched it last night. It was insane. I thought it was a great movie because it offered something different from the stuff I usually watch. I never got annoyed by the shakey-cam. I actually liked that aspect of the film except for the few instances where I thought it was overdone. The plot was almost non-existent, but that doesn't hurt the movie too much because that wasn't the focus. Anyway, a 9/10 from me.

GrassDragon
01-27-2008, 8:18 PM
I saw Cloverfield with TD last Thursday and I felt sick from the camera. I had to step out of the theater for a few minutes to regain my balance. That was a real turnoff, but otherwise I thought the movie was pretty entertaining.

Not sure about all that metaphor crap though.

TinyDancer
01-27-2008, 8:26 PM
I read this thread before I saw it, so when Liberty's head goes rolling by, I was thinking "Huh. I mean, it could be a metaphor, but I'm pretty sure it's just supposed to be shocking."

Defiler22134
01-27-2008, 9:38 PM
I saw Cloverfield with TD last Thursday and I felt sick from the camera. I had to step out of the theater for a few minutes to regain my balance. That was a real turnoff, but otherwise I thought the movie was pretty entertaining.

Not sure about all that metaphor crap though.you guys know each other?! Whoa Ive never seen something like that.

Toucan
01-27-2008, 9:52 PM
I read this thread before I saw it, so when Liberty's head goes rolling by, I was thinking "Huh. I mean, it could be a metaphor, but I'm pretty sure it's just supposed to be shocking."
Not according to Abbrams, as he made the movie, one could assume he has an idea. :shiftyr:

I have been into kaiju movies of this type for the last 30 years. But just out of curiosity, how was Abbrams going to get back to the original kaiju concept with out making it metaphorical?

In order for it to even be a kaiju movie, it has to be metaphorical.

Cloverfield Metaphorical content (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Cloverfield+Metaphorical+content&meta=)

Defiler22134
01-27-2008, 10:01 PM
HEY GUYS I FOUND SOME NEW STUFF! ITS RELATED TO THE DRINK ROB HAD

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Toucan
01-27-2008, 10:10 PM
You need to learn how to post a youtube vid Defiler and that vid had me going for a couple of minutes.
Thanks for the great laugh. :D

TinyDancer
01-27-2008, 10:14 PM
you guys know each other?! Whoa Ive never seen something like that.

What, IRL friends? You've never seen them before?

That, Defiler22134, is evident. ;)

Defiler22134
01-27-2008, 10:52 PM
You need to learn how to post a youtube vid Defiler and that vid had me going for a couple of minutes.
Thanks for the great laugh. :Duh... how do i do it. sorry. im pretty new

TheOutcast
01-28-2008, 12:15 AM
uh... how do i do it. sorry. im pretty new
Well, I was wondering the same thing, follow this link.

http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=29286

GrassDragon
01-28-2008, 9:40 AM
In order for it to even be a kaiju movie, it has to be metaphorical.

It's possible that he meant to use a lot of metaphors in the movie, but none of them are really obvious. If he didn't say anything about them, no one would even notice.

Toucan
01-28-2008, 10:45 AM
It's possible that he meant to use a lot of metaphors in the movie, but none of them are really obvious. If he didn't say anything about them, no one would even notice.
If you had followed the link you would see that many people disagree with you, icluding Abbrams himself.

If you enjoyed the movie just because you like to watch buildings get smashed and people getting hurt, then smile, you should of had a good time. What is your problem with people that like to look for a little more?

I enjoyed the metaphorical content and I enjoyed thinking about it, speaking for myself, there was little else to enjoy in this movie, noone died in a heroic way, there was noone to admire, it was just mad death.

Zerg_eater
01-29-2008, 7:22 PM
TWUuntsVzFY
Sweet info Def! ^_^. I used to think that slusho was real. Anyway, I went to the website, and it said the side effect was "YOUR STOMACH WILL EXPLODE WIT HAPPY!"
Remember marlena?

Zerg_eater
02-02-2008, 3:53 PM
MARLENA! NOOOOOOO!
EDIT: Sorry, I chose Quote instead of EDIT

Galiant
02-03-2008, 10:37 AM
Q: What the hell does the monster look like? Is it a whale with feet?
A: It is not a whale with feet. But it is difficult to describe. I haven’t seen a monster quite like this before. That doesn’t mean that you don’t get a good look at him. You do. But even still. He kinda looks like a giant gray dinosaur with creepy backwards ostrich legs. But that’s not the scariest part. The legs are really meaty and almost look human-like. There are times when he looks like a biped and other times when he looks like a quadruped. He has a lizard-y face and he’s got sacs up by his temples when he breathes (I guess.) He also has some whippy tentacle arms that fly at you when you try to cross the Brooklyn Bridge.

Q: Is that the only monster in the movie?
A: No, the big monster drops these little buggy guys. They zip around like mini-versions of the bugs from Starship Troopers or like leggy facehuggers. They also make kinda silly squeaky noises – an audio reminder that this movie is PG-13 and not R.

Q: What happens when those little buggy guys bite you?
A: They must plant something in you, because you “get dizzy” and then you explode!

Q: Ahhhh! That’s insane!
A: Yeah.

Q: Let’s back up a bit. Is Cloverfield any good?
A: Sh*t yeah. Cloverfield is a baseball bat of thrills pounding you in the face. It isn’t perfect (the acting is problematic) and there are some mixed signals with tone (if this is supposed to be so naturalistic, why all the corny jokes?) but for a thrill ride’s sake, it is top notch. See it in a theater, you need to be in a big dark room of people screaming and you need to hear those sound effects. Another reason to see it in a theater - you will get to see the Star Trek trailer. They didn’t show this at the press screening. So, in a way, I suck.

Q: Sound effects? Does he sound like Godzilla?
A: Kinda.

Q: Do you ever find out what the monster is?
A: Not really.

Q: Does it end all lame like The Sopranos or does it have a real ending?
A: A little of both. You never learn what happens (everything you see is “discovered tape”) in the larger world, but you learn what happens to the characters you’ve been following.

Q: What happens to the characters we’ve been following?
A: Everybody dies.

Q: Oy vey!
A: But they find love.

Q: Really? Who cares?
A: You gotta make your movie about something. Otherwise it is just a lot of running. As it is, it still is mostly running.

Q: How long into the movie until we see the monster?
A: About 15 – 20 minutes in is the first attack. Even though you don’t see the monster during this attack (well, you see him for a flash) this is actually the scariest part of the film. And will be the most controversial. There is some imagery taken directly from the photos taken in New York on Sept 11, 2001 and that kinda made me a little queasy. 15 – 20 minutes after that you get some quality shots of the monster. And then there are more sprinkled throughout. By the end, he’s right in your face.

Q: Why is the movie called Cloverfield?
A: No real reason. The “found tape” that we see is labeled “Cloverfield” by the Defense Department. The tape is discovered in the “area formerly known as Central Park” and all we see is the tape. The tape, as you probably know by now, is meant to be a recording for a friend’s going away party. The party is interrupted by an attacking monster. In a dang clever move it is disovered that the tape with the bulk of the action is recording over something that was taped a few weeks past. We see flashes of this whenever the camera is knocked around too much or the shooter (a dude named Hud who is kind’ve a putz) stops filming for a minute. It is a cheap ploy, but it works.

Q: What else? Tell me tell me tell me!
A: Some awesome stuff right at the end. The monster is tearing up the area around Grand Central. We get in a helicopter. A stealth bomber starts blowing the hell out of the monster. We think we’ve won, but then the monster jumps up and smacks the helicopter. Everyone in the theater jumps. Then we crash in Central Park.

Q: Will sticklers about New York City geography be frustrated?
A: Actually, they do a pretty good job. Better than most movies. But anyone who has been at the 6 stop on Spring Street (or the entry into Bloomingdale’s from the 59th St station) will be a little vexed. Nothing takes me out of a movie faster than that.

Q: What other movie is this most like?
A: A little Poseidon Adventure, but with a monster. Although a fairly esoteric 80s flick Miracle Mile kept coming to mind. Ticking clock, searching for your lost love, no escape. Miracle Mile is a better movie. But Cloverfield has a kick-ass monster and many awesome sequences.

Q: Is the party scene an accurate depiction of young, upwardly mobile hipsters in New York.
A: Yeah, I hate to say it, but yeah.

Q: How come the only African-American men you see in this movie are looting an electronics store?
A: I dunno, but I was pretty flabbergasted by that and I hope someone calls the filmmakers out on it.

Q: What does Slusho have to do with the movie?
A: Nothing. Some dude wears a Slusho T-Shirt. Then he gets killed by a monster.

Q: Does it leave room for a sequel.
A: Hells yes. And I’ll be stunned if there isn’t one - a straight to DVD at least. So many unanswered questions. And all it takes is one of those little buggy guys to run across the George Washington Bridge into Jersey to come after YOOOOOUUUUU!!!!!!

I forgot where I got these... sry!

DarkMirror
02-03-2008, 7:41 PM
I know the movie came out, but shouldnt that still be in Hide tags?
So yeah, my fav scenes are with the Parasites. And to clear it up, they don't make you explode. They make your face, or at least your eyes explode.

What I think this is is an explosive brain hemorrhage, which could make your eyes explode. I think.

kongurous
02-03-2008, 7:43 PM
I know the movie came out, but shouldnt that still be in Hide tags?
So yeah, my fav scenes are with the Parasites. And to clear it up, they don't make you explode. They make your face, or at least your eyes explode.

What I think this is is an explosive brain hemorrhage, which could make your eyes explode. I think.

It's a thread about a movie that's out right now. Spoilers are going to happen and expecting any different is foolishness.

Giggilyomeromicon
02-03-2008, 11:15 PM
Q: What happens to the characters we’ve been following?
A: Everybody dies.

except for Lily

Nostradamus
02-06-2008, 4:35 PM
Saw it. 'Twas very good. I would give it a 4.2/5. I just think it lacked a certain something, I just can't quite place my finger on it.

Defiler22134
02-06-2008, 6:58 PM
except for LilyHave you noticed that in a lot of action movies blacks die first? (not being racist) but this time the white guy died first :D

TheDriver
02-07-2008, 12:28 PM
It's a lot of camera shaking. In fact, the camera doesn't stop shaking at all during the entire thing, not even when the guy holding it is standing still.

The actors were holding the camera the entire time. It makes perfect sense why it was shaking. Added some realism IMO but was nauseating . My cousin and his GF had to leave because of "motion sickness " :rolleyes:

Zerg_eater
02-09-2008, 3:50 PM
You know what would be aweome? If instead of a dvd, they make these special glasses and they put the movie in it, then you could strap it onto some chair thingy and put stuff on ur arms and legs so it would feel like ur in it! that would be sooo awesome!

Giggilyomeromicon
02-09-2008, 4:03 PM
You know what would be aweome? If instead of a dvd, they make these special glasses and they put the movie in it, then you could strap it onto some chair thingy and put stuff on ur arms and legs so it would feel like ur in it! that would be sooo awesome!

...what

TheDriver
02-11-2008, 10:45 PM
Saw it. 'Twas very good. I would give it a 4.2/5. I just think it lacked a certain something, I just can't quite place my finger on it.
Perhaps an ending that isn't anticlimactic?
Have you noticed that in a lot of action movies blacks die first? (not being racist) but this time the white guy died first :D

No, your aren't being racist that is the truth.

TheOutcast
02-15-2008, 11:00 PM
You know what would be aweome? If instead of a dvd, they make these special glasses and they put the movie in it, then you could strap it onto some chair thingy and put stuff on ur arms and legs so it would feel like ur in it! that would be sooo awesome!
Yes, it's called "virtual reality" and it only exists in sci-fi movies. :)

DarkMirror
02-15-2008, 11:03 PM
Lol, nice one. Yeah, I hope they make a sequel. It might be hard, but me and my friend were talking about it and thought maybe the next one could be an actual military reporter/reporter/documentary filmed system, with less shakiness and very professional at the beginning.

Then it could all go to hell near the end or whatever.

Galiant
02-16-2008, 2:21 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LjgEiebTm8s

A Better and clearer view of the monster

Zerg_eater
02-16-2008, 2:50 PM
Yes, it's called "virtual reality" and it only exists in sci-fi movies. :)
That's exactly what I meant! but, only in a little of our Technology right now :D

Nostradamus
02-17-2008, 3:05 PM
I saw it for the second time on Friday. It was again very good and I saw what would appear to be the monsters head at the end when they are on the ferris wheel.

As for a sequel, I think that the movie should be left alone, movies only really work with a sequel if there is a continuing storyline. I think the unanswered questions should be revealed in a book, perhaps preluded by more viral internet clues.

TheOutcast
02-17-2008, 7:26 PM
That's exactly what I meant! but, only in a little of our Technology right now :D
Well, maybe later your dream will come true! ;)

Zerg_eater
02-22-2008, 6:43 PM
I mean, aren't the glasses possible at least?

DarkMirror
02-22-2008, 8:33 PM
Yeah, but unneeded. Its a VIDEO RECORDING. Your not supposed to be there.

TheOutcast
02-23-2008, 10:12 PM
I mean, aren't the glasses possible at least?
Of course, but I'd be really hard to actually get an invention like this working perfectly.

Galiant
02-24-2008, 12:15 AM
how about making the movie all graphical and using headtracking technology by that korean dude to make 3d effects

Zerg_eater
02-24-2008, 12:26 AM
how about making the movie all graphical and using headtracking technology by that korean dude to make 3d effects
What I was thinking too. but thats imposhable

TheOutcast
02-24-2008, 12:54 AM
how about making the movie all graphical and using headtracking technology by that korean dude to make 3d effects
We have Imax, and Theatres, and TVs, so I don't think there would really be a need for that. If technology like this was ever created, it would most likely be used as a moneymaker, and as something so people can have that "I fucking want that" moment.

xodkrm
02-24-2008, 2:43 AM
It's probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Zerg_eater
03-06-2008, 7:41 PM
Please Explaun xodrm...I thought it was great

Kingscrab
03-07-2008, 1:07 PM
Please Explaun xodrm...I thought it was great Jesus. Let this thread die.