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SilverCrusader
12-20-2007, 10:40 PM
So I go about doing my tri-monthly reformat, then try to register... Yeah I think you know how the story goes. Well anyway, I'll try to describe the hell it was to get a new key. I know this happened to someone before, but I think we should make a Windows bashing thread.
Modred
12-20-2007, 10:42 PM
Getting a new key sounds more like you should bash Microsoft sales reps. They truly are a persistent and annoying bunch. I had half a mind to argue with one of them at a store when they tried to tell me how marvelous the Zune would be.
SilverCrusader
12-20-2007, 10:52 PM
You schooled them with your superior tech knowledge no doubt? Should of shown them BUG (http://www.buglabs.net/), that can even knock the socks off of the famed iPhone.
Or you could, you know, take care of your computer. There is no need to reformat unless you've seriously screwed up.
-Neo
FrankZ
12-21-2007, 2:35 AM
Neo is right, SC. You should have at least considered the safety of your OS before reformatting for any reason.
I'll probably reformat my drive next to X-mas because I can make backups of all my files into my external HDD and since am sure to have all the necessary keys to register all my stuff back again once I do that. ;) To be honest I'm pondering about doing this for a couple of years now and what has triggered me for good was my latest awry spyware encounter. :P
Modred
12-21-2007, 2:55 AM
You schooled them with your superior tech knowledge no doubt? Should of shown them BUG (http://www.buglabs.net/), that can even knock the socks off of the famed iPhone.
The buglabs stuff didn't even exist back then. And I highly doubt it will do any dethroning of iPhones or the like. =p
Pfft Basan.
Reformatting is unnecessary and a giant waste of time unless your system is unrecoverable.
But I went through similar stages, thinking that I should reformat and reinstall once a year at least. But at some point you'll realize if you just take care of your computer it'l be fine. Make sure to run defrags, CCleaner, don't install a bunch of superfluous programs, av scans and the like, and you'll be fine.
Not to mention that when you do reinstall you'll have to do more then just move the files you backed up -- all those little tweaks in the registry, for windows or other programs will have to remade. Programs you were used to, which had your favorite settings memorized (say a particularly layout for your favorite image or word processor) will be forgotten, etc...
R+R is a drastic method that is used far to often nowadays.
-Neo
Frattimonde
12-21-2007, 5:48 AM
Windows isn't really bad, if you exclude the makers.
Thedutchjelle
12-21-2007, 8:16 AM
A windows bashing thread? And it's not closed yet?
Oh I'm liking this place more and more everyday.
(@Fratti : Lol.)
Or you could, you know, take care of your computer. There is no need to reformat unless you've seriously screwed up.
if one can get a system to screw up with normal use, the system sucks.
technology is meant to make life easier, remember. a computer is a tool, and its software should need no mandatory maintenance.
just like how linux or mac os never runs any sort of maintenance routines of any sort right?
it's not windows fault because a ton of it's userbase is moronic.
-Neo
Basan
12-21-2007, 12:00 PM
Pfft Basan.
Reformatting is unnecessary and a giant waste of time unless your system is unrecoverable.
But I went through similar stages, thinking that I should reformat and reinstall once a year at least. But at some point you'll realize if you just take care of your computer it'l be fine. Make sure to run defrags, CCleaner, don't install a bunch of superfluous programs, av scans and the like, and you'll be fine.
Not to mention that when you do reinstall you'll have to do more then just move the files you backed up -- all those little tweaks in the registry, for windows or other programs will have to remade. Programs you were used to, which had your favorite settings memorized (say a particularly layout for your favorite image or word processor) will be forgotten, etc...
R+R is a drastic method that is used far to often nowadays.
I'm more inclined to it since the nasty spyware files that I've been mentioning around here hide themselves linked to key Windows OS executables and no way I try to remove'em does the job (even in "Safe Mode") although Ad-Aware SE detects them they still return 'cause they crash the OS during that program's removing process.
The second reason are some of the residual files n' folders that were left from my upgrade from the 2K into the XP (around 3 years back).
I'm not doing this light heartedly but since that sleazeware tries to creep around the system unchecked thus leaving me without much other options to solve the issue. :P
just like how linux or mac os never runs any sort of maintenance routines of any sort right?
it's not windows fault because a ton of it's userbase is moronic.
-Neo
while this thing is great in the aspect of not detoriating over time, its no way perfect
but don't think that manual software maintenance is a normal thing. it's not. it's just perpetually working around the flaws that should be fixed, curing the symptoms of the problem ignoring the cause.
So basan try something other then adaware, use a different scanner, run the recovery console and have windows replace any modified system files, etc...
-Neo
I don't advocate haphazard reformatting for minor spyware, but in cases with kernel level rootkits and other nasties, reformatting is the only way to be 100% sure you're clean.
Actually in that case, wouldn't nothing short of a writing zero's to all sector's really destroy the rootkit?
There are some pretty nasty ones out there.
-Neo
SilverCrusader
12-21-2007, 10:14 PM
Yeah... uhh. Windows is a pile of crap. Ever since they through the NT framework in there at least. And it all went downhill with Windows 98 second edition.
hammocksleeper
12-21-2007, 11:20 PM
I've had my Windows computer for four years now - never reformatted, never run a virus scan, never defragged, haven't run a spyware scan in two years. and never had a problem. and if i consider myself a "power user," what they heck are you guys doing to your computers?
FrankZ
12-22-2007, 1:40 AM
I agree. Windows is dang. hammocksleeper, if you are telling us that your system has been untouched by any means of an adware or malicious code for two consecutive years, then that should be put in Guiness or Ripley's and make other users worship it. Otherwise, I suggest you make a deep scan of your system for a about a day or two with AVG or HJT, then take a look at the log file.
Back to the topic: Rryhea. Windows is nothing but a pile of dung (already said that). Just take a look at what happened to this poor fella: http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=32304
Hey onto the 'Windows bashing', I just found a chinese corporation which develops minor operating systems. Recently they made and OS called 'Doors', and their tag line goes like this:
"Without walls and fences, we have no need for Gates and Windows."
Yeah, you guys are blowing smoke.
Windows does not suck, and XP is a rather stable version, when compared to Windows 98/95 or, god forbid we even acknowledge ME.
Threads like these are pointless, and way uncool.
The simple fact is that most of window's problems that you may have lie with YOU.
If you don't make sure to keep brake fluid in your car, who's fault is it when the brakes finally go out?
-Neo
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