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Toucan
12-13-2007, 9:29 AM
The human race gets pretty much wiped out by a botched attempt at curing cancer.
Only military virologist Robert Neville (Played by Will Smith) is immune to the effect of the mutating infection.
Everyone else has mutated into crazy mindless freaks that are allergic to sunlight. At night they all happily kill one another. Soon the mutated wreck of mankind will have wiped itself out.
I only recently heard about this movie, it's based on a classic old sci fi novel by Richard Matheson.

So, it's up to Will to save the world one more time.
I think this will be quite a good show, especially for those that don't mind a bit of a scare.

I am Legend (http://iamlegend.warnerbros.com)

Galiant
12-13-2007, 9:50 AM
lol... allergic to sunlight.. But IMO its a good action movie!

So.. let me get the strait on this movie..

Will smith is the last man on earth that was immune to that kind "disease" and he tries to survive every night against hordes of Gollums/Smeagols?

One thing bothers me though...

Is it going to end with a happy one? Like Will was not really the last man and there are other survivors and they repopulate earth again?

Darkslayer633
12-13-2007, 10:12 AM
lol... allergic to sunlight.. But IMO its a good action movie!

So.. let me get the strait on this movie..

Will smith is the last man on earth that was immune to that kind "disease" and he tries to survive every night against hordes of Gollums/Smeagols?

One thing bothers me though...

Is it going to end with a happy one? Like Will was not really the last man and there are other survivors and they repopulate earth again?

who knows all I know for sure is I already have plans to see it Friday, WOO will smith

Leosam096
12-13-2007, 12:25 PM
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fWJ6ux8PMHere's one on this post. *even though there is already one on the official website*

Thedutchjelle
12-13-2007, 12:29 PM
lol... allergic to sunlight..

Although it sounds cheap, be aware that this disease actually exists.

I've heard about this movie before, but I thought it was released months ago.

IrishDutchman
12-13-2007, 1:32 PM
Sounds like a great ride. Since I saw the first trailer about a year ago, I knew I had to check this one out.

Zerg_eater
12-13-2007, 7:55 PM
It is, i saw a few trailers. There's an online game for it too. But, it kinda sucks :/

Toucan
12-14-2007, 7:35 AM
Is it going to end with a happy one? Like Will was not really the last man and there are other survivors and they repopulate earth again?
It will be the saviour storyline I think, it will cost him his life to save us.
And then he will be, a legend.

DarkMirror
12-14-2007, 7:46 AM
Actually, he estimates that around 2% of the human population is immune to the virus. So he isn't really the last human on earth...

Galiant
12-14-2007, 8:20 AM
Is it just me or the music from the trailer sounds a bit like 'Lux Aeterna'

P.S.

What Virus was infecting the pipol?! I don get it!

Toucan
12-14-2007, 11:38 AM
What Virus was infecting the pipol?! I don get it!
From what I gather (this might not be quite accurate, haven't seen it yet) a cure for cancer is released in the form of a virus, in the belief that it will make mankind immune to cancer.
The virus mutates and creates a new and unexpected virus.

GrassDragon
12-14-2007, 12:28 PM
I'm seeing this tonight. Really excited!

Magmaniac
12-14-2007, 12:36 PM
This movie has been hyped for months. I want to see it but I am not sure if it will live up to it.

King_Critter
12-14-2007, 3:09 PM
lol... allergic to sunlight.. But IMO its a good action movie!

They're vampires, basically. :P

Is it going to end with a happy one? Like Will was not really the last man and there are other survivors and they repopulate earth again?Well, I dunno about the movie, but I read the Wikipedia article on the book, and it... doesn't quite end happily. :shiftyr:

Spoiler:
The main character finds out the vampire creatures he was killing are actually what's left of the human race. Then they capture him and sentence him to death for killing so many of them. He kills himself, instead. The end... for the book, of course. The movie is undoubtedly different.

LinkTheGameFreak
12-14-2007, 4:39 PM
seeing this sometime in the next week - looks great, and the book is fantastic so far!

hammocksleeper
12-14-2007, 5:40 PM
a couple of my roommates went and saw this movie today...i will tell you what they say when they come back

Galiant
12-15-2007, 3:01 AM
They're vampires, basically. :P

Well, I dunno about the movie, but I read the Wikipedia article on the book, and it... doesn't quite end happily. :shiftyr:

Spoiler:
The main character finds out the vampire creatures he was killing are actually what's left of the human race. Then they capture him and sentence him to death for killing so many of them. He kills himself, instead. The end... for the book, of course. The movie is undoubtedly different.

Lets hope so!!! I want this movie to have a sequel!!!!

hammocksleeper
12-15-2007, 3:02 AM
wow this movie is really popular (i had had never heard of it until today)

apparently 237 of my friends have already seen it as of 10pm tonight. they all said it was good though, maybe i will download a bootleg :)

Galiant
12-15-2007, 3:05 AM
They're vampires, basically. :P

Well, I dunno about the movie, but I read the Wikipedia article on the book, and it... doesn't quite end happily. :shiftyr:

Spoiler:
The main character finds out the vampire creatures he was killing are actually what's left of the human race. Then they capture him and sentence him to death for killing so many of them. He kills himself, instead. The end... for the book, of course. The movie is undoubtedly different.

Lets hope so!!! I want this movie to have a sequel!!!!

P.s.

Spoiler

After meeting two other survivors and developing a cure for the plague, he sacrifices himself so the other two immune humans can escape. They eventually travel to an isolated community of survivors. Neville's heroism, creating a cure and allowing others to escape the infected, leads to him becoming a legend, hence the title of the movie.

GrassDragon
12-15-2007, 3:46 PM
I really liked this movie. It ended up being more of a zombie-style movie than I had expected, but I love zombie movies so this wasn't an issue. Very suspenseful and the cgi was great. It was different from the original, but I didn't think this ending was unreasonable.

As for the title of the movie: (spoiler)

I think the title was also based on his obsession with Bob Marley, whose CD was titled Legend.

GroG
12-15-2007, 3:52 PM
How many different endings does this movie have? Jeeze.

Magmaniac
12-15-2007, 3:53 PM
I saw this last night. Excellent movie.
I recommend seeing it five or six times.

Dusty
12-15-2007, 5:40 PM
I loved it too just be warned its a very sad movie.

Toucan
12-15-2007, 6:20 PM
The original story was able to be much more thought provoking, even though it was about vampires.

Neville would spend a lot of time during the day trying to kill as many vampires as possible. In the end he finds out the vampires where only trying to get him because he was killing them during the day and that to them he was the monster that was preying on defenseless vampires while they slept. (Just as the vampire of legend use to do to us.)
So to the race of vampires he became the legend/monster of old stories.

Modred
12-15-2007, 9:38 PM
The original story was able to be much more thought provoking, even though it was about vampires.

Neville would spend a lot of time during the day trying to kill as many vampires as possible. In the end he finds out the vampires where only trying to get him because he was killing them during the day and that to them he was the monster that was preying on defenseless vampires while they slept. (Just as the vampire of legend use to do to us.)
So to the race of vampires he became the legend/monster of old stories.

Exactly. I like this ending much better than the Charlton Heston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omega_Man) version that they apparently used as a guide. Oh well. I'll still go see it.

Battlecruiser
12-15-2007, 9:42 PM
I want to see this movie. It's one of the few movies that I think are worth watching that have come out lately. Maybe I'll watch it tomorrow.

Faiien
12-15-2007, 9:49 PM
its great hearing that this isnt another one of those
humans get infected
humans kill each other
last surviving group keeps trying to survive
/to be continued lol
hint hint resident evil XD
i look forward to watching this movie.

kongurous
12-16-2007, 3:49 PM
Just got back from seeing it. Read on if you want to see what I think, but be warned for spoilers.

The beginning, I thought, was good. It showed New York City on pretty days with birds chirping (who are apparently immune to the virus), and then you see Will Smith speeding through Manhattan, hunting deer. You also see exactly how all this happened, helped along by the beginning of the movie and the newspapers around the city. It was all good, and the scene where Neville has to choke his dog is particularly powerful, but after he meets up with Anna it plummets down into the realm of camp and stupidity. The fight in his house was entertaining but the ending was lame.

Dusty
12-16-2007, 8:46 PM
I would have to agree the ending was botched but entertaining at least. It falls back to the fact its hard for a story with a unhappy ending to make it mainstream.

TheOutcast
12-17-2007, 4:36 PM
I hear that out of all the stuff this guy does in this movie, he only....

Don't read this because it's a spoiler...
Ends up saving 1 person and killing his dog.

Kingscrab
12-18-2007, 9:56 AM
Just got back from seeing it. Read on if you want to see what I think, but be warned for spoilers.

The beginning, I thought, was good. It showed New York City on pretty days with birds chirping (who are apparently immune to the virus), and then you see Will Smith speeding through Manhattan, hunting deer. You also see exactly how all this happened, helped along by the beginning of the movie and the newspapers around the city. It was all good, and the scene where Neville has to choke his dog is particularly powerful, but after he meets up with Anna it plummets down into the realm of camp and stupidity. The fight in his house was entertaining but the ending was lame. You summed it up pretty good. This movie could have been SO much better, but they cheesed out hard core about half way through. I have some major problems with this movie, but the "sole survivor" beginning was nicely done. His interacting/relation with the dog was actually the finest aspect of the film. Overall though, very dissapointing. The zombies were quite lame; I already saw that movie, and it was called I-ROBOT.

C+

PS. If you want to see a true pile if shit movie and piss away 8 bucks, go see the Golden Compass. I recommend staying home and chewing on glass though. It would be way less painful.

Neo
12-22-2007, 4:28 PM
Spoilers:
Ok, so I thought the movie was really good. I thought it was going to be a total zombie-cliched movie.

Wow was I wrong. The interaction between Neville and Sam was really awesome -- I basically thought the beginning was really good up to the reverse trap and Sam getting bit.

The only issue I had was that; at the start, there was something, not sure what, that just screamed "Sam is going to die" -- I spent the rest of the time up until he was sitting in his lab with Sam that Sam would survive. I kept waiting for some kind of twist in some manner -- like Sam had the key to the cure, or Neville would force himself to cure Sam.

I'll admit I was even teary eyed during this scene -- don't see how you couldn't be unless your a dog-hater. He started singing "everything's gonna be all right" and it just... Wow. Powerful.

I was hoping that he would take precautions, like when he snatched the woman 'darkseeker' -- but he didn't. You know the rat from the beginning appeared to have reduced aggressiveness and stuff, I was hoping that Sam would be the first "canine" to be cured. I mean, so yay, the humans are cured, what about the dogs?

The movie kind of went down hill after that. Smith's acting though was really nice up until the house fight/scene, then the entire movie went into "blah" territory. Just as soon as you think there's a light at the end, they snatch it away.

Definitely not a happy movie at all, though to be fair I didn't read the book, maybe it's better. But there was so much tragedy that it got kind of numbing after awhile.

I really got pissed as soon as "God" was mentioned. Now the ending is like some kind of retelling of the "Jesus story" and that really annoyed me. The symbolism was just so strong (Single Woman w/Child, Smith who feels responsible, ending up giving his life to save "us", etc....) i mean, come on. Heavy religious overtones near the end just ruined it for me.

Otherwise I thought the movie was great.

Did you catch it? The Batman/Superman poster near the beginning above that movie theater? You know, with their logo's fused? Release date of 2010? Heh. After the Dark Knight trailer, I was thinking how awesome would that be.

they'd have to recast superman though, superman returns was so lame

-Neo

kongurous
12-22-2007, 4:35 PM
Spoilers:
Ok, so I thought the movie was really good. I thought it was going to be a total zombie-cliched movie.

Wow was I wrong. The interaction between Neville and Sam was really awesome -- I basically thought the beginning was really good up to the reverse trap and Sam getting bit.

The only issue I had was that; at the start, there was something, not sure what, that just screamed "Sam is going to die" -- I spent the rest of the time up until he was sitting in his lab with Sam that Sam would survive. I kept waiting for some kind of twist in some manner -- like Sam had the key to the cure, or Neville would force himself to cure Sam.

I'll admit I was even teary eyed during this scene -- don't see how you couldn't be unless your a dog-hater. He started singing "everything's gonna be all right" and it just... Wow. Powerful.

I was hoping that he would take precautions, like when he snatched the woman 'darkseeker' -- but he didn't. You know the rat from the beginning appeared to have reduced aggressiveness and stuff, I was hoping that Sam would be the first "canine" to be cured. I mean, so yay, the humans are cured, what about the dogs?

The movie kind of went down hill after that. Smith's acting though was really nice up until the house fight/scene, then the entire movie went into "blah" territory. Just as soon as you think there's a light at the end, they snatch it away.

Definitely not a happy movie at all, though to be fair I didn't read the book, maybe it's better. But there was so much tragedy that it got kind of numbing after awhile.

I really got pissed as soon as "God" was mentioned. Now the ending is like some kind of retelling of the "Jesus story" and that really annoyed me. The symbolism was just so strong (Single Woman w/Child, Smith who feels responsible, ending up giving his life to save "us", etc....) i mean, come on. Heavy religious overtones near the end just ruined it for me.

Otherwise I thought the movie was great.

Did you catch it? The Batman/Superman poster near the beginning above that movie theater? You know, with their logo's fused? Release date of 2010? Heh. After the Dark Knight trailer, I was thinking how awesome would that be.

they'd have to recast superman though, superman returns was so lame

-Neo

Because when there's some vague analogue to a previous story, that automatically makes it heavy on overtones

Leosam096
12-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Heston's The Omega Man. :)
I want to read the novel too... after I watch the movie. :D
They're gonna show it here in January 8, 2008.

Toucan
01-03-2008, 7:56 AM
Damn, I had to wait a bit longer to see this, it wasn't released downunder until today. Silly bloody release dates.

I thought it was a great movie, I didn't even mind the religious overtone to finish it. I chuckled to myself that if a man found himself in such a situation, he best be hoping God was real.

I thought it touched very well on the original story of the book, Neville thought they had lost all sense of even instinct. But I think that darkseeker came out into the light in an attempt to retrieve the female darkseeker, not in a mindless attempt to get food. They also set a very elaborate trap to catch him and kept infected dogs as pets.
They where clearly still a heck of allot smarter than he gave them credit for.
And he was definitely a monster to them, how many had he killed attempting to find a cure?

All in all, I really enjoyed it, was a great movie.


I spotted the Super/Batman logo as well, interesting idea.

Faiien
01-03-2008, 8:28 AM
well the movie was good but it left me wanting more
i think all it needed was more content
go from a 2.5 hr to a 3 hr movie...lol i think it was 2.5 not sure but w/e you get mypoint

Kingscrab
01-03-2008, 9:07 AM
My biggest complaint with the movie was that they didn't explain AT ALL why ONLY ONE of the zombies had some form of intelligence. I've been told by those who have read the book that (if i understand correctly) there were varying degrees of infection which allowed some of the infected to be smarter than the others, but they didn't touch on this idea AT ALL in the movie. (it's a great idea, btw) Instead, there is just some random "smart zombie" who can train zombie dogs and set traps, and is motivated by more than "find food".

SO EASY. SO IMMENSELY LAME.

They could have really explored that idea and made a great addition to the movie. The concept of Will Smith being "the lone monster" who hunts them and threatens their "society" was also a great idea, but this wasn't explored either. My only consolation was the trap that captured Will Smith. I like to think that the trap was set by him, and his forgetting about it was a sign that he was slowly losing his mind. (as opposed to the lameness of the random leader zombie dude setting it, which is just a stupid idea, and pretty impossible...) This movie could have been so much better, but it cheesed out into a CGI zombie fest.

Very dissapointing.

Toucan
01-03-2008, 9:25 AM
I was a bit disappointed myself that there was no portrayal at all of what the zombie culture had become, it would have been interesting to see that side of the story explored as well. Though I took the smart zombie to be the leader so to speak, the strongest of the group, so the one that gets to call the shots. There was no suggestion made that he was the only smart zombie.
My only consolation was the trap that captured Will Smith. I like to think that the trap was set by him, and his forgetting about it was a sign that he was slowly losing his mind.
I hadn't thought of that possibility, its a good idea, though the zombie leader was right there at sundown ready to check his trap.

Kingscrab
01-03-2008, 9:54 AM
Though I took the smart zombie to be the leader so to speak, the strongest of the group, so the one that gets to call the shots. There was no suggestion made that he was the only smart zombie. That's just the problem though. Will's Smith's character claimed that all infected people lost complete ability to reason, then suddenly we see ONE lone zombie demonstrate intelligence and there's no explanantion whatsoever. It was just WAY to easy to insert into the plotline.
*point-click-insert generic CGI badguy here-click* = Shitty screen writing.

Another thing: WHY did the zombies have to be CGI? So they could have one shot where a bunch of them get to climb up a building a la IROBOT?

GAY.

I hadn't thought of that possibility, its a good idea, though the zombie leader was right there at sundown ready to check his trap. Meh. It was sundown and free food is danging right in front of his lair...

Toucan
01-03-2008, 4:16 PM
Will's Smith's character claimed that all infected people lost complete ability to reason
But he was wrong, the very zombie he observed then came to this conclusion was the zombie leader. He was wrong about how smart they where.
Meh. It was sundown and free food is danging right in front of his lair...
Exactly, the trap was right in front of the lair.

Though, could support your idea to. :)

Neo
01-03-2008, 5:38 PM
What bothered me most was the pace of the movie. It started off slowly, and IMO, really well done in that manner, then near the end it like picked up, then BAM over (along with a sappy ending).

I'd rather watch a 4 hour movie with a small intermission then a two and half hour movie with a hasty finish.

-Neo

Battlecruiser
01-03-2008, 7:01 PM
Just got back from seeing it. Read on if you want to see what I think, but be warned for spoilers.

The beginning, I thought, was good. It showed New York City on pretty days with birds chirping (who are apparently immune to the virus), and then you see Will Smith speeding through Manhattan, hunting deer. You also see exactly how all this happened, helped along by the beginning of the movie and the newspapers around the city. It was all good, and the scene where Neville has to choke his dog is particularly powerful, but after he meets up with Anna it plummets down into the realm of camp and stupidity. The fight in his house was entertaining but the ending was lame.

My views as well. It could have been an amazing movie all around, but the ending just sucked.

I also agree with Neo's comment above mine.

My rating of the movie, overall- 7.5/10. Excluding the ending- 9/10.

Kingscrab
01-04-2008, 8:52 AM
But he was wrong, the very zombie he observed then came to this conclusion was the zombie leader. He was wrong about how smart they where. Yeah, but the movie gave no explanantion as to how this occurs. And why just that one dude? Hmmmm...

Exactly, the trap was right in front of the lair. Though, could support your idea to. :) Well, yeah... That's where Will Smith would probably have set it, since he often captured them for testing. A zombie using the manequin as bait was pretty damn intelligent... too intelligent. So yeah... whatever. :P

Toucan
01-04-2008, 9:39 AM
Yeah, but the movie gave no explanantion as to how this occurs. And why just that one dude? Hmmmm...
But it was never suggested that he was the only one. A leader is determined amongst all pack animals, humans are no exception. I seriously took it that he was just the determined leader, not necessarily the smartest, but most likely the strongest.
Well, yeah... That's where Will Smith would probably have set it, since he often captured them for testing. A zombie using the manequin as bait was pretty damn intelligent... too intelligent. So yeah... whatever.
I think we are at a stalemate on this one, my good King.

Kingscrab
01-04-2008, 2:43 PM
I think we are at a stalemate on this one, my good King. *Tips hat to Toucan*

GrassDragon
01-04-2008, 4:52 PM
But it was never suggested that he was the only one. A leader is determined amongst all pack animals, humans are no exception. I seriously took it that he was just the determined leader, not necessarily the smartest, but most likely the strongest.

This seems right to me. It's possible that he wasn't the only intelligent zombie, just that he was the only one we were "introduced" to because he was their leader. Either way, I found it odd that the zombies only decided to set a trap and elect a leader several years after the virus spread.

Neo
01-04-2008, 4:59 PM
I took the trap to meant that the Lead Mutant laid... I read more into the movie possibly, but when that male walked out into the sun light, and didn't flinch, it indicated to me that he was determined -- far to mild a word though.

Obviously Will's character had been doing the same thing for a few years, the mannequins in the video place, for instance. All the dark seeker had to do was watch him from the shadows -- realizing that if he moved the mannequin it would attract will's character.

Plus you'll notice that he moved the one that was outside -- he didn't go INSIDE the store (at least don't think he did).

The movie seems to hint at the leader having more intelligent then the other ones. What I noticed: It was indicated the leader was mimicing (at the least) Neville's trap, as well as his dog. What clenched this train of thought was when the leader popped up with those mutant canines.

The problem with thinking that the trap was placed by neville, and he simply forgot about it seems folly for a few reasons, but the major one is this: The movie indicated that Neville used blood to lay the trap. Why would he place a mannequin instead? And why would he have placed the trap and simply forgot about it within a day or so?

There was also the confrontation on the Pier, and later the house invasion. Because of the way the leader acted, it was pretty obvious he wasn't mindless.

The end of that scene where he's smashing himself against the glass was also a pretty big clue -- the mutant dude's chick had been taken. He wanted her back, and was going to stop at nothing to get to her.

I dunno. Yeah Neville was probably going nuts, but forgetting about, and falling for one of his own traps doesn't seem likely -- he wasn't stupid, just lonely.

-Neo

hammocksleeper
01-04-2008, 8:46 PM
Maybe the leader was an immune human who was not infected and only pretending, in order to survive amongst the infected.

Toucan
01-04-2008, 11:27 PM
The movie seems to hint at the leader having more intelligent then the other ones. What I noticed: It was indicated the leader was mimicing (at the least) Neville's trap, as well as his dog. What clenched this train of thought was when the leader popped up with those mutant canines.
The leader must have been studying Neville, almost as intensely as Neville was studying them.
And your right it was one of the dummies from outside the video store.

It's true the leader wasn't mindless, but the way some of them just hurled themselves at Neville's car, many of them must have been just wasted. I don't think there would have been a lot of intelligent mutants yet, maybe he was more of an indication that they where beginning to adapt to the mutation. Witch would also explain why it took a while for a defined leader to come about, if there wasnt already a leader that hadnt been seen by Neville before.
Maybe the leader was an immune human who was not infected and only pretending, in order to survive amongst the infected.
I don't think he would have had the strength to compete.

hammocksleeper
01-04-2008, 11:32 PM
I don't think he would have had the strength to compete.

What do you mean? It's kind of an off-the-wall idea, but a human has more intelligence than a zombie, and so if this human figured out a way to make the zombies believe he was one of them, by eating human flesh etc, and used his superior intelligence to become their leader...you know that might be possible. It's not like zombies have magical detector ability to see if someone is a zombie or not - more like a dog: if he runs away, he's prey. If he stands his ground, maybe not.

Also how come the zombies don't eat each other?

X9
01-04-2008, 11:35 PM
Dear all,

The whole thing seemed fairly incredulous to me from a biological stand point, but that might just be because I do research. :P I was complaining to my lab head after I saw the movie about how terribly wrong the producers got their bio facts lol. Besides that tremendously nagging point, it was OK, except the ending was fairly terrible.

Regards,

X9, StarCraft.Org Fan Fiction Moderator

Toucan
01-04-2008, 11:46 PM
The whole thing seemed fairly incredulous to me from a biological stand point, but that might just be because I do research. I was complaining to my lab head after I saw the movie about how terribly wrong the producers got their bio facts lol.
I know what you mean, but it is a work of science fiction.
Thats sort of like watching Star Trek then and not liking it because there isn't really any such thing as warp drive.
Still a valid point of view though.

Toucan
01-04-2008, 11:47 PM
What do you mean? It's kind of an off-the-wall idea, but a human has more intelligence than a zombie, and so if this human figured out a way to make the zombies believe he was one of them, by eating human flesh etc, and used his superior intelligence to become their leader...you know that might be possible. It's not like zombies have magical detector ability to see if someone is a zombie or not - more like a dog: if he runs away, he's prey. If he stands his ground, maybe not.

Also how come the zombies don't eat each other?
But he was bouncing the other zombies off the walls.

Darkslayer633
01-05-2008, 12:12 AM
Seeing as the other "zombies" attacked the light posts seemingly knowing what they were instead of just running through them shows at least a speckle of intellect, not to mention that while they were just bashing into the car, they did seem intent on a direction which they wished to push the car which shows some intellect also. The other thing was the leader only mimicked wills actions, which seems like monkey see monkey do. I wold venture to guess that the leader was no more intellectual then your average monkey or gorilla maybe, and the others probably had similar intelligence, but much like gorillas or other animals of the like he was most likely the alpha male and since all good stories have a primary antagonist, we were introduced to him more.

As for why the traps were never replicated before, who knows, but learning takes a lot more time for a creature of limited intellect so maybe they just never figured it out, My other thought is that maybe the alpha male just never had a reason to care, they don't seem to show too much concern for one another, except if I recall correctly during the attack on the house ect there were no females. So maybe the alpha male now had a sensible reason to be pissed because his female was gone.

DarkGunner
01-05-2008, 12:41 AM
Long story short, it was a good movie with a bad ending.

Neo
01-07-2008, 2:11 AM
So book was better then? something with vampires at least.

-Neo

Lithium
01-07-2008, 6:49 AM
A grenade with that much firepower? One could argue that there were a lot of explosive contents in that room, but I don't think he could've killed that many zombies with one grenade. Also, he could've thrown it in the hole instead of jumping in there and killing himself like a dumbass. Who the fuck does that?

Ktan
01-07-2008, 3:01 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenade#Fragmentation_grenades

Fragmentation grenades

The fragmentation grenade (commonly known as a "frag") is an anti-personnel weapon that is designed to disperse shrapnel upon exploding. The body is made of hard plastic or steel. Flechettes, notched wire, ball bearings or the case itself provide the fragments. When the word "grenade" is used without specification, and context does not suggest otherwise, it is generally assumed to refer to a fragmentation grenade.

These grenades were sometimes classed as defensive grenades because the effective casualty radius of some matched or exceeded the distance they could be thrown, thus necessitating them being thrown from behind cover. The Mills bomb or F1 grenade are examples of defensive grenades where the 30–45 m casualty radius [1] matched or exceeded the 30 m that a grenade could reasonably be thrown.

Modern fragmentation grenades such as the United States M67 grenade have a wounding radius of 15 m (half that of older style grenades which may still be encountered) and can be thrown about 40 m. Fragments may travel more than 200 m.[2]

As to whether or not that would make it effective, I don't know. However, the actual explosion radius did seem quit large, in effect the fire doing the damage by incinerating a fair bit.

Of course, the grenade was let loose in a very confined space, which also left little room for both the main character and the fire to 'escape', since the glass was already cracked, so either the frag would finish the job or the inferno would simply burn through that hole. The only place to hide was that little shelter, and obviously there would have been a flaw in that plan...

IrishDutchman
01-07-2008, 4:11 PM
Yeah, the sacrifice was a bit hard to believe. He could have just waited in the escape route for them to break through, chuck the grenade and close the door.

kongurous
01-07-2008, 5:15 PM
Yeah, the sacrifice was a bit hard to believe. He could have just waited in the escape route for them to break through, chuck the grenade and close the door.

You're making the assumption he still had the capacity for rational thought at the time.

Ktan
01-07-2008, 5:20 PM
It would also assume that there was enough space for him in the shelter. For whatever reason, he concluded that the other survivors either stood a better chance or were more 'deserving' of survival, especially given that they had knowledge of where the refugee camp was, where as he only had a scant location name.

Darkslayer633
01-07-2008, 5:38 PM
There was in fact enough space, but remember that zombie isn't stupid, if he threw something I would have assumed the zombie would have taken note that it may have been harmful, and got away, only to return later after he could have assumed it to be safe, thus he decided it best to just commit suicide.

Not to mention that he had tried to commit suicide once before, and failed because of the other two people, as far as he was concerned he had nothing worth living for, and thus he killed himself.

That was my take

IrishDutchman
01-08-2008, 11:38 AM
You're making the assumption he still had the capacity for rational thought at the time.

Meh, it seemed rather obvious to me. Both me and my friends instantly went 'wtf?' when he did that.
Besides, he seemed like a rather cool and calculating guy throughout the movie. With the amount of near death experiences he'd been through, and the experienced way in which he dealed with them, would suggest that he would be able of rational thought.

Darkslayer633 makes an interesting point. Maybe he just offed himself because he was depressed (not too hard to imagine).

Toucan
01-09-2008, 4:47 AM
He believed he had confirmation of heaven and God. Death was suddenly a path to possibly see his wife and child again.
Death was no longer something to fear.

kongurous
01-09-2008, 6:54 AM
Darkslayer633 makes an interesting point. Maybe he just offed himself because he was depressed (not too hard to imagine).

Two things.

1) You can be insane and still be a rational thinker. He was paranoid, he was talking to mannequins. This doesn't strike you as odd?

2) I pretty much said that.

Lithium
01-09-2008, 7:36 AM
Then shouldn't the movie just be called I AM Insane or something? Because he didn't really find the cure. The religious overtones really fucked up this movie, and it could've been better if he didn't commit suicide. I couldn't believe the "Butterfly" bullshit.

That tells us two things:

1. The Producers were low on budget
2. And/or they were low on imagination

Overall: Big Disappointment.

Kingscrab
01-09-2008, 8:53 AM
2. And/or they were low on imagination This sums it up.

Neo
01-12-2008, 7:47 PM
I dunno, it started off REALLY awesome.

Then tailed off and got lame.

-Neo

Protogod
01-12-2008, 10:03 PM
The original (wierd) cliche' movie from the 70's. <3 Charlton Heston?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067525/plotsummary

Gunmonk
01-13-2008, 12:27 AM
I went to go see it with my friend, I felt like an ass. I thought the movie sucked, and I started laughing at the guy killing his dog while my friend girl was crying on my arm. So yeah... some things were good, the whole ending just killed it though