40k by Internet: 40k Module for Vassal

[DarkScipio]

I wonder if anybody here already uses the 40k Module for Vassal to play 40k games through the Internet?

http://hometown.aol.de/JTPeter/images/Vassal2.jpg

for more
http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/clubs-clans/91765-40k-online-vassal-mod-clan.html

more Screenshots and the english FAQ is also here:

http://www.gw-fanworld.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=70049

a german Battlereport is here:
http://www.gw-fanworld.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=70636


Here is a preview of our new Imperial Fists Sprite set:

http://hometown.aol.de/JTPeter/images/Imperial%20Fists.png

Perhaps it would be useful to post the links to download it. :)

You can download Vassal there:
http://www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php

and you can download the 3.2 module version there:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-415257/40KMod_vrs32.html

All you need is a opponent then, but there are usally some in the ,,lobby".

[kongurous]

...How legal is this?

[SHISHKABOB]

Oh my gosh, isn't this what we've been looking for?

[Darmago]

...How legal is this?

Don't ask questions, download it surreptitiously and quickly before they shut it down.

[DarkScipio]

But to answer the question: Its perfectly legal, as we are not using material from Games Workshop. So their trademarks or copyrights are untouched.

A new version will be out soon.

[Dezzick]

The 'Fist sprites are too green

http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/canandcant/1/

"* The game or mod must not devalue any Games Workshop product in any way."

Taken from the MODIFICATIONS, TOTAL CONVERSIONS, AND GAMES section of their extensive legal page.

I wouldn't be suprised to see this thread closes tomorrow, there was a recent thread about trying something like this, but we found out it probably would be shut down as well.

edit: Kongy, your tattoos are probably illegal as well.
"This also means that we cannot allow tattoos as an acceptable use of our IP as a third party necessarily has to perform the "service.""

Anyone want a scapel?

[DarkScipio]

The imperials Fists are yellow in game. :)

And as I said, the module is perfectly legal. :) You should also not think that only the things that Games Workshop claims to be legal is actual legal. In fact Games Workshop acts itself only at the edge of legality (no discount policy for example).

[kongurous]

Edge of legality isn't the question here (and discount policies aren't required where I come from.) I just don't want Games Workshop suing this site for this, nor any of our members.

[DarkScipio]

They cant. How should they?

But do what you desire, I only wanted to show it to you and canvass new players. :)

[Ktan]

IMO, for now, the IP policy seems a little too clear for us to even shield ourselves with any sort of 'legal grey area' shield.

And GW's legality is irrelevant. Tu Quoque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque) does not an adequate defence make.

However, kong's evaluation is that this is all legal, so it's his prerogative in this case.

[DarkScipio]

As I said. :) Btw. this was no tu quoque, more the opposite.

And here are more news:

Here is 3.4 wich is only a fast update until 3.5 comes out, but it features bases and many new sprites and usefull utilities.

Warhammer 40k Module 3.4 (http://www.bestsharing.com/files/kw7iU376163/FORDK1-1.zip.html)

In short (not complete):
--Necrons
--Map Layers – hills, vegetation, roads, buildings,infantry,vehicles,counters ( will keep models slipping under hills and such)
--private map windows for army composition (a place to put the models but not on the main map)
--movement trails
--multi board support ( done in 12” or 24” blocks?)
--Deviation Dice – located in Counters[Misc]. Random direction and hit/miss roll. Move forward 1”. Area of effect for 3,5,7 and 10 inch blasts.
- Cleaned out the terrain pieces. (free rotation eats up a lot of memory and doing it on large terrain pieces will eat up even more)
- Terrain can now be selected using Shift-Click. (Ctrl-Shift-Click would not work for me for some reason)
- Turn tracker intalled. Tracks turn number, player side and phase. Left in the ‘end of phase’ buttons just in case the turn tracker is not liked.
- Mouse over viewer will now show model information (wargear) instead of location
- Scatter dice installed. Located in the counters/misc folder. Put it on target and roll. Will randomly select hit or miss and rotate to a random facing. If a miss is indicated just move the piece that many inches (CTRL-UP ARROW). Has the option of 3,5,7 and 10 inch blast areas.
- Configurable sized maps. You can now select any number of 24” x 24” sections you want and each one can be a separate color if desired. (selection of 5 colors)
- 2 more map windows so people can organize their armies away from the map. Kind of on
Complete Editthe honor system if the other person is not supposed to see it until deployment.
-image capture added to table map window (snapshot of the current map. Nice for battle reports)

[kongurous]

As I said. :) Btw. this was no tu quoque, more the opposite.

And here are more news:

Here is 3.4 wich is only a fast update until 3.5 comes out, but it features bases and many new sprites and usefull utilities.

Warhammer 40k Module 3.4 (http://www.bestsharing.com/files/kw7iU376163/FORDK1-1.zip.html)

In short (not complete):
--Necrons
--Map Layers – hills, vegetation, roads, buildings,infantry,vehicles,counters ( will keep models slipping under hills and such)
--private map windows for army composition (a place to put the models but not on the main map)
--movement trails
--multi board support ( done in 12” or 24” blocks?)
--Deviation Dice – located in Counters[Misc]. Random direction and hit/miss roll. Move forward 1”. Area of effect for 3,5,7 and 10 inch blasts.
- Cleaned out the terrain pieces. (free rotation eats up a lot of memory and doing it on large terrain pieces will eat up even more)
- Terrain can now be selected using Shift-Click. (Ctrl-Shift-Click would not work for me for some reason)
- Turn tracker intalled. Tracks turn number, player side and phase. Left in the ‘end of phase’ buttons just in case the turn tracker is not liked.
- Mouse over viewer will now show model information (wargear) instead of location
- Scatter dice installed. Located in the counters/misc folder. Put it on target and roll. Will randomly select hit or miss and rotate to a random facing. If a miss is indicated just move the piece that many inches (CTRL-UP ARROW). Has the option of 3,5,7 and 10 inch blast areas.
- Configurable sized maps. You can now select any number of 24” x 24” sections you want and each one can be a separate color if desired. (selection of 5 colors)
- 2 more map windows so people can organize their armies away from the map. Kind of on
Complete Editthe honor system if the other person is not supposed to see it until deployment.
-image capture added to table map window (snapshot of the current map. Nice for battle reports)

How do I install this <_<

[SHISHKABOB]

It probably works the same way as the previous version, you just select the newer one when you open Vassal.

[DarkScipio]

Exactly, and do nut unzip it.:)

[Dayoh]

Question, Is there a Warhammer fantasy MOD also or just 40K.
This looks amazing, should have a game night of this :)

[singo]

Question, Is there a Warhammer fantasy MOD also or just 40K.

There is a Battlefleet Gothic mod somewhere, so I imagine there will be a fantasy one (not that BFG is obscure as hell or anything :P)

[DarkScipio]

Unfortunally there is no fantasy module, not long ago (before we did it:)) there was no playable 40k module also.

[singo]

Hmm, suprising that.

Probably a result of the steriotypical fantasy gamer (middle aged, beard etc) not being any good on a computer, it isnt true, but the steriotype is there.

[kongurous]

If anyone's up for a game, feel free to alert me.

[DarkScipio]

If you are interested Heresy Online is preparing an online tournament:

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=91

[Darkslayer633]

This seems legal enough from what I can discern, I mean they name it the warhammer whatev, but in the actual piece on mods, games and conversions this is completely legal assuming there is no commercial gain, that GW is properly credited in some attached document with the mod, and that the game is actually correctly the game it is meant to represent.

so yeah as long as it satisfies that stuff, as far as I can deduce its fine

[Ktan]

I've dabbled a bit in it. I was very impressed. Requires a fair amount of bookkeeping, and a sound knowledge of the rules, but that's fair enough.

Really, it just gives you the models and a table.

It's convenient enough to be useful, while not actually detracting from the plus sides of actual tabletop.

Also, it pretty much requires you have the BBB and codex for your units.

Overall, quite impressed. Further, it's simply a mod and it doesn't even infringe the stats of units. IT would just be like making a total conversion of another game to use 40K models instead, so it seems perfectly viable and I really doubt it constitutes a threat to GW's IP any more than making a TC would.

[DarkScipio]

I've dabbled a bit in it. I was very impressed. Requires a fair amount of bookkeeping, and a sound knowledge of the rules, but that's fair enough.

Really, it just gives you the models and a table.

It's convenient enough to be useful, while not actually detracting from the plus sides of actual tabletop.

Also, it pretty much requires you have the BBB and codex for your units.

Overall, quite impressed. Further, it's simply a mod and it doesn't even infringe the stats of units. IT would just be like making a total conversion of another game to use 40K models instead, so it seems perfectly viable and I really doubt it constitutes a threat to GW's IP any more than making a TC would.

Do you have any suggestions or whishes, how it could be better, or what should be impleted?

[Ktan]

Well, first, the Ultramarines don't actually have a Tactical Missile Launcher Marine. That's one thing that struck me. Also, I'd suggest a slight change in the dimensions of the Dark Angel's Landraider

Thus far, I'd simply suggest that you expand the sprites, more Chapters/Chaos Legions and Terrain, which is something I believe you are doing anyway. If I ever get round to it, I might dabble in making a couple for you.

If it's possibly, maybe an option to tell you how many, for example, 3+'s you rolled without having to manually count them, but I think I'm probably being a bit too picky and lazy there :P

If anything else springs to mind, I'll post it here or at Bolter & Chainsword

[DarkScipio]

Yes I am working on sprites all the time. 3.5 will include complete sets Space Wolves, Dark Angels and Raven Guard. New Imperial Guard and some superheavies and flyers. If you have time we are always happy to get new sprites/spriters.

We also made a dice bag.

[SHISHKABOB]

You should add Hierophants.

>.>

[DarkScipio]

Just sent us the sprite ;)

[DarkScipio]

http://hometown.aol.de/JTPeter/Vassal40kbanner.jpg

Now there is a ladder for your Warhammer 40k Module games on Vassal.
You only have to register and join the ladder and can report every game against other ladder members then:

Warhammer 40k Module online matches ladder (http://www.vassalengine.org/tournaments//ladder.php?ladderid=13)

It would be also possible to put up more ladders, like a special Warboards only ladder or sometimes a Forum ladder to find out which forum fields the best players. ;)

I hope you enjoy it.

[DarkScipio]

Here is the newest version 3.5.5:

http://www.mediafire.com/?df4ygbgbxvx

http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/310108145750_3-5Beispiel.jpg

V40k3.5.4
--fixed necron basing
--fixed ork basing and missiing warboss mega armor, tankbusta, kommando w/ big shoota, burna, shoota, trukk, stormboy nob. Removed second deff dread. Changed the mad dok image to the JT one, much better.
--fixed chaos basing
--Checked Dark Eldar
--Eldar basing checked, Swooping Hawks redone
--Eldar war walker now has layers for the different weapons layouts. (can you have 2 different weapons on the walker?)
--Resized and layered all Eldar vehicles and jet bikes
--Began adding new terrain sprites from JT
--Added Ultramarine Chaplain on bike, Adjusted bases on ultramarines
--replaced DarkAngel sprites with better ones. Missing quite a few but at least they look better now. DA Dread has configurable weapon mounts.
-- Change LOS thread to red. Shows up better on most terrain types
--Add text label selection for terrain pieces
--Casualty markers
--DE, 2 wyches with CCW + splinter
--Added new Avatar sprite, resized and layered the Eldar Wave Serpent, Fire Prism and Falcon.
--Added vehicle prototype. Includes Immobilised and Condition (shaken, stunned, destroyed) layers. Applied to all vehicles.
--Changed Tau Devilfish/Hammerhead/Piranha sprites. Added layers for weapon mounts.
--New Kroot sprite
--New IG sentinel, chimera, leman russ, demolisher, basilisk and hellhound with layers added, Pickle – The Boy Squig did the baneblade and Leman Russ Executioner. Basicly loads of new IG tanks added thanks to the Pickle man.
--New IG infantry done.
--Assassins added to Inquisition list
--IG Vulture, Valkyrie and Thunderbolt flyers added.
--Dice bucket implemented. Select the number of dice, hit ctrl p, push the button with your target number. All dice show the number and a big F if it failed the number. Rerolls are doable (rerolls the last set of failed dice, red Fs). Armor saves will be last and all failed armor saves will show up as big red Fs. Up to 120 dice can be rolled this way.
--Space Wolf predator and landspeeder put in with layers.
--Space Wolf should be complete now with all vehicles and infantry done.
--The Pickle warhound was put in.
--Scale has been changed to 25 pixels per inch
--Put bases on harlequins and wraithguard
--ork mek boy force field now has the 6” field effect as a key command
--many terminators have now been put on 40mm bases
--created the hellstorm apocalypse flamer template.
--Added transparent bases. You have to select no base and the hit ctrl-z for the AoE to activate.
--Added a marker that will show firing unit, direction and target. Place it on/near the unit firing. Point arrow at target and then place marker on/near target. It will leave a trail showing who is shooting what
--Dark Angels added
--Redid the UI to the simpler images and fonts and put similar buttons into sub-menus
--Each model has a 2” radius AoE. Just select your base size
--Smoke added to all vehicles
--Fixed issue where vehicles showed up as ‘Clear’ when the mouse over was used
--Added Stompa, Chaos Warhound, Reaver, Nightwing
--Deamon Hunters have been updated (Pickle). Most have layers
--Added a ‘go backwards 1 inch’ command to all pieces
--Added 2, 6, 12 and 24 inch range circles to all models that have a round base
--New kill markers done by DS. Randomly picks from 3 with random facing
--Necrons now have a repair layer


3.5.5:
- Corrected Grey Knight/Justicar weapon options
- Corrected Grandmaster layer bug
- Added Grey Knights Special Weapons
- Corrected =I= Stromtroopers, added two weapon options
- Corrected Gov. Palace and Streefight map tiles

Unfortunally the Raven Guard didn`t got in due to lack of time.

[SHISHKABOB]

Holy shit, is that a Warhound Titan I see in the upper left hand corner?

/me downloads

[SHISHKABOB]

Oh, hey guys. Version 5 of this thing has come out. It's really fancy with lots of new and nicer looking sprites.

:O
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mhn3r8jjba8

[MattTheFighter]

Thank you for posting, I would have never heard of this