December Melee Mapping Contest!

[Protogod]

Judges: (cannot post a map in contest)
-Protogod
-SilverCrusader
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(accepting applications)

Contestants: (minimum of 5, no maximum)
-TitanWing
-Dem0nS1ayer
-Neobowman
-Kawagata
-Polkaman
-Mjolniir
-Friedleaves
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Submitting your map:

-MUST BE YOURS! If I find you have stolen someone else's map and not given them credit, you will be removed from this competition without warning or any chance to redeem yourself. If you worked with a partner, that is OK as long as you give your partner credit otherwise I will count it as stolen.

-Must be a standard "low-money" melee map with anywhere from 2 to 8 players. This means no money/fastest maps and playable on the "melee" game setting on Battle.net. The only exception to this is an observer map, which is completly OK to post...but you will lose points if it does not work properly, so you might want to make sure.

-Post the final version of your map here. If you made a change to your map and want to resubmit the later version, be sure to tell me when you post it.

-A picture is required either attached or in a post or in a topic you make for your map here on WarBoards.

-Your map must be unprotected because I will be opening it in an editor to look at certain details, and because there is NO reason to protect a MELEE.
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Theme: "Bigger is Better"
The theme for this contest is the phrase "bigger is better." Interpret it as you will, your inclusion of these elements will be worth up to 10 points averaged into your overall score. Suggestions are big ramps, bridges, scenery, detail, and any sort of grandiose overdone terrain.

Bear in mind that the rule is "standard low money melee" which means "big money" will not count as an interpretation, nor will the obvious "256x256 is big." Be Creative. It'll get you a higher score.
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Grading: All judges will give their ratings on each map and the average score between them on each category is your final score for that section. Once all judges have been averaged in, I will accumulate your points into an overall score which will be your maps final score.

I will give you some quick notes when you first submit your map so you can fix any major issues I see at a glance. However, if you wish to edit, you must post it before the due date and before I grade you map.

-Positional Balance (are all start locations on the map fair?) - 10 points possible
-Racial Balance (balance depending on race matchup such as Terran vs Zerg) - 10 points possible
-Aesthetics (appearance/decoration, this includes doodads and mineral variety) - 10 points possible
-Creativity (unique features like custom terrain and experimental elements) - 10 points possible
-Focus on the Theme (Your interpretation of "Bigger is Better." 256x256 doesnt count in and of itself, nor does "bigger minerals" since therule is NONmoney) - 10 points possible
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Prizes: Fame and fortune of course! Everyone who participates will be mentioned in a news post on SC.org for the entire Starcraft branch of the .ORG network to see.
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D E A D L I N E:
You may submit a map from December 1st through January 1st. Maps will be graded on/after Jan. 1st so you can re-PM/post me your map any time before then.

Questions, comments and suggestions are welcome. Simply send me a PM or post in here.

[TitanWing]

Sign me up (contestant)!

[Dem0nS1ayer]

I'll join as a contestant.

[Protogod]

added both to contestants

[neobowman]

Oh my. Big. Big. Well, I'll join this time before I'm forced to make a quick map.

[SilverCrusader]

I'll join this as a judge as well.

[neobowman]

Will points be deducted for having small features in the map?

[Protogod]

Will points be deducted for having small features in the map?

No. Points will only be added to the Focus category for large things. However, if there is a problem with a large construct, or if they are entirely absent from the maps, your score may be adversely affected.

However, no, this is your interpretation of the theme, and thus, small things are not inherently bad.

[Kawagata]

sign me up.

[Polkaman]

Ill be a contestant :}

[Mjolniir]

kinda obvious isn't it, i'm in

[neobowman]

For the last two contests it seems like we've had a lack of contestants. The first time I think we had like 13. Second we had 7 but two didn't submit maps in time. Not sure about last time. Wonder if we could encourage others to join somehow?

[Protogod]

last time we had 6 but one didnt submit, so we had 5 in the last 2 contests.

I think We just need to keep it going and it'll gain popularity as word gets out.

[Mjolniir]

umm, didn't i join this?
kinda obvious isn't it, i'm in

why aren't i getting feedback on my map? i even added a picture...

no fair! everyone else gets feedback. all i get is thrashed by Dslayer for my temp ramps.

DMMC = December Melee Map Contest

therefore;

DMMC: glacial grave = December Melee Map Contest: glacial grave

some feedback please :_poke:

[Dem0nS1ayer]

no fair! everyone else gets feedback. all i get is thrashed by Dslayer for my temp ramps.

Heh, yeah, sorry about that...:P

[friedleaves]

Titan told me about this on SEN. Sign me up.

[Protogod]

Titan told me about this on SEN. Sign me up.
Welcome aboard. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

Good luck, you're facing some stiff competition.

[TitanWing]

He's not bad at all for a beginner, though you're right, there's tough competition. *cough* :D

[Protogod]

Demonslayer, someperson, neobowman, kaw, and mjolniir, and the other usual contestants are all progressing quite nicely, I dare say. It's more than just you now.

[friedleaves]

Well, I guess this can be a chance to get to know everyone here on WB.

[SilverCrusader]

He's not bad at all for a beginner, though you're right, there's tough competition. *cough*
Well, as tough as the competition might be, by practicing your skill in these monthly tournaments one's skill level increases dramatically.

[Protogod]

Well, I guess this can be a chance to get to know everyone here on WB.


HI, I'm proto. I'll be your tour guide. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. Welcome to WB and enjoy your stay.

[neobowman]

Good luck on the competition.:) I'm neobowman just so everyone knows.

[friedleaves]

Ty.

HI, I'm proto. I'll be your tour guide. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. Welcome to WB and enjoy your stay.

This tour sucks. The menu bar is too round and everything here is too gray. :P

[Protogod]

Ty.
This tour sucks. The menu bar is too round and everything here is too gray.


Grey = teh pwnage. Better than SEN where everything is too "gray", minus the "R", if you know what I mean. ;)

I kid, I kid. Anyway, map submissions are due in 21 days, aka, 3 weeks.

[SilverCrusader]

Well, I guess I should introduce myself as SilverCrusader. A triggerist.

[TitanWing]

Hi...I'm not TitanWing. ;)

[Polkaman]

Im polkaman, and no1 knows me. I live in the shadows where everyone bombs on my for my map submission this month. UMS Map Maker but you dont know that cause u dont know me and... .... ... ... . . ... .... ....

Moo

[TitanWing]

Of course not. Why on earth would you even begin to think about being called this, you say, Titanwing?
It's odd...people just seem unable to read or something. :D

Anyways, let's not spam the contest thread up, we've got a Member's Lounge for that.

[Protogod]

Just a reminder, your work time is officially 1/2 over in 2.5 hours (from the time of me posting this.)

15 more days.

[GroG]

I wouldn't mind judging. I don't know much about making maps, but I play quite a bit of melee matches. Let me know if you need a judge I guess.

[Twitch6000]

Ty.



This tour sucks. The menu bar is too round and everything here is too gray. :P
Hwello (yes Hwello stfu) I am Oo.Twitch.oO known as Twitch6000 here.
I am ums map maker mainly defense maps.

Please enjoy your stay :).Also if you are intersted in mapping classes we have some for you I bet.Look on protogod's siggy.

Anyways for my question Ill be judge if needed.I know the basics of terrian and melee,so yeah :).

[Dem0nS1ayer]

I'm going on vacation in two days, so I guess I'll just post my map now. Here it is.

The picture is the same as it was with the long bridge.

[KillerKow]

I'm going on vacation in two days, so I guess I'll just post my map now. Here it is.

The picture is the same as it was with the long bridge.

The gas only expos are more than a little redundant. There's tons of gas everywhere else on the map. The neutral buildings seem a little redundant too, seeing as the expos directly next to them have more minerals and are more easily defensible...

I like your deco though :P

[SilverCrusader]

Gas only expos are no-nos.

[neobowman]

I'm ready to hand my map in but I don't have access to it from the computer I'm using. It would be helpful if you could get the map from its thread. Thnx.

[Twitch6000]

I'm going on vacation in two days, so I guess I'll just post my map now. Here it is.

The picture is the same as it was with the long bridge.

From what i see in this map not only do you have gas expos in every expo.
You also have,expos in about every area.When you shoould only have about 2 or 3 max expos for each player.So yeah what silver said thats a no no :p.

[TitanWing]

I like your deco though :P
"Deco" is an understatement.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

lol, yeah i know, I put a bit too much doodads onto it, but i think that titanwing and proto liked the map, so I'm happy.

[SilverCrusader]

3 more days including today.

[friedleaves]

Yesterday was my birthday!

I'm ready to hand my map in but I don't have access to it from the computer I'm using. It would be helpful if you could get the map from its thread. Thnx.


The one on the thread wasn't updated, so I don't think it'll work.

[neobowman]

Clap clap clap. I sing happy birthday to you from my Californian vacation. Kinda sucks now that you tell me while I'm here. I'm pretty sure the one at broodwarmaps.net is updated. That one will do fine if you can get on the site. I can't download anything on this computer so I can't do anything about that.

[friedleaves]

Actually, the one at broodwarmaps.net is the very, VERY first one, before you made the entirely new map.

I guess you could ask proto if he would allow you to submit late or something.

[neobowman]

What? I don't think so. Are you sure? Damn. I can hand it in right after new years at the earliest.

[SilverCrusader]

24 hours remaining.

[Protogod]

I may very well accept maps submitted on the 1st, since I'll be rather busy, and dont wanna read through timestamps.

[TitanWing]

Here's mine.

Have fun grading! :D

[friedleaves]

And here's mine.

Modified it a bit, so it's different from the one on its thread.

I tried making it really open, to match the theme.

[SilverCrusader]

6 hours and 30 minutes left, unless you're neo.

[Kawagata]

Mulligan, not going to be able to make the deadline, I've need to deco a bit of the map and put in all the resources. So yeah, I'm DQed.

[neobowman]

I am back and was having technical difficulties. Anyway, here's my map.
Happy New Years!(I spent mine cramped up economy class on a plane)

[friedleaves]

My new year's sucked. Go to SEN and read about it.

When are the results gonna be posted? In like 2 weeks?

[SilverCrusader]

As soon as proto and I get them done.

[Protogod]

I think we're still waiting for a map or two, so I'll not be too *ahem* demanding, timewise. It is the holidays, after all.

I'll be gin grading thursday/friday. Grades should be up monday, I estimate (mine at least.)

[SilverCrusader]

You can count mine done by tomorrow.

[Polkaman]

Since im a nubcake, will the results be on a new thread or a comment on this thread?

[Protogod]

Since im a nubcake, will the results be on a new thread or a comment on this thread?

Maybe both, but this thread for sure.

[TitanWing]

Since im a nubcake, will the results be on a new thread or a comment on this thread?
They'll be in this thread and in a news post on the main page of starcraft.org, as Proto's done with previous contests.

[friedleaves]

So, not to rush you, but are your grades done by now, SC?

[SilverCrusader]

Yes yes, just need to post them up, which I can't do right now.

[Polkaman]

*Jepordy Music*

You got my submission, right? I posted it in a thread and that threads buried in page 3 or 4, so not sure if you got it...

[friedleaves]

You also have to post it on this thread.

Ya might wanna do that soon. The due date was a week ago.

[Polkaman]

Oh. Well in that case my post'll be up before you cna say tomarrow!

[SilverCrusader]

Tomarrow

Creator Name: TitanWing
Map Name: (2)Orpheus v1.4(o)
Positional Balance: 10/10
Racial Balance: 9/10
Aesthetics: 10/10
Creativity: 9/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 38/40
As expected from Titan :)

Creator Name: neobowman
Map Name: (2)Klyma(n)
Positional Balance: 9/10
Racial Balance: 7/10 - Long bridge..
Aesthetics: 10/10 - LAWL KERRY!
Creativity: 10/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 36/40
Very nice map. You have done well.

Creator Name: Dem0nS1ayer
Map Name: (2)Scattered Ruins(n)
Positional Balance: 9/10
Racial Balance: 9/10
Aesthetics: 9.5/10 - A bit heavy on doodad use.
Creativity: 9/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 36.5/40

Creator Name: friedleaves
Map Name: (2)Agorix1.2(n)
Positional Balance: 10/10
Racial Balance: 10/10
Aesthetics: 9/10
Creativity: 7/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 36/40
Not bad.

Comments: Not bad, I didn't grade as harshly on them, but I did manage to nail you guys on some minor stuff. I can tell many of you have gotten a lot better. And Titan remembered start locations :). All I can say is watch out for unbuildable doodads behind mineral lines.

[Protogod]

Add pythum's map to the list silver. I said so. =]

[neobowman]

Eh, not that I want a lower mark, but I really don't think I deserve a ten for aesthetics. I don't think the terrain varation was quite right and if I wasn't a bit less lazy I probably would've done better. Least you noticed Kerrigan :) (She was the theme of my map description) Nice set of maps this time.

[friedleaves]

Wow...:o

Not bad for my first contest ever.

[Protogod]

Bear in mind, my grades are still forthcoming, & may not be as kind as SilverCrusader's were.

[TitanWing]

Creator Name: TitanWing
Map Name: (2)Orpheus v1.4(o)
Positional Balance: 10/10
Racial Balance: 9/10
Aesthetics: 10/10
Creativity: 9/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 38/40
As expected from Titan :)
I didn't expect such a high grade...even though I tried pretty hard. You going soft on me SC!? :o :)
And Titan remembered start locations :)Not after having a last minute panic to look at the map to make sure. :D

[SilverCrusader]

Actaully I was moreso grading in comparison to WGT and ICCUP maps. Those maps would get low scores compared to what you guys got. But I was impressed with your map Titan. It was just spectacular. I was a bit soft on everyone, I think.

Eh, not that I want a lower mark, but I really don't think I deserve a ten for aesthetics. I don't think the terrain varation was quite right and if I wasn't a bit less lazy I probably would've done better. Least you noticed Kerrigan (She was the theme of my map description) Nice set of maps this time.
You had a Kerry on the map. How EFFING cool is that for aethetics. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure you could mind control it to....

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Gah, I knew that I would be screwed if Titan submitted Orpheus. Oh well, second place isn't that bad (compared to what I got in the first map making contest that I entered)... I just hope that Proto's grades don't change it much (unless for better.) :P

[neobowman]

Just a question. Who's hosting the January contest. *Gulp* Is there going to be a January contest?

[Protogod]

Just a question. Who's hosting the January contest. *Gulp* Is there going to be a January contest?


It's not looking likely. 10 days are gone. I'll be hosting the February Contest, though, so don't worry. It's finals now & I need a break to re-orient myself.

[Protogod]

My grades will be posted in a few minutes.

Grades for pythum's map are still pending.

neobowman (2)Kylma

Positional balance - 10/10
Racial balance - 8.5/10
Aesthetics - 8/10
Creativity - 8.5/10
Focus - 8.5/10
Total - 8.7/10

Titanwing (2)Orpheus

Positional balance - 9.5/10
Racial balance - 9/10
Aesthetics - 9.5/10
Creativity - 8/10
Focus - 9/10
Total - 9/10

friedleaves (2)Agorix

Positional balance - 10/10
Racial balance - 8.5/10
Aesthetics - 9/10
Creativity - 8/10
Focus - 7.5/10
Total - 8.6/10

Dem0nS1ayer (2)Scattered Ruins

Positional balance - 10/10
Racial balance - 9.5/10
Aesthetics - 9/10
Creativity - 9.5/10
Focus - 10/10
Total - 9.6/10

[SilverCrusader]

Creator Name: TitanWing
Map Name: (2)Orpheus v1.4(o)
Positional Balance: 10/10
Racial Balance: 9/10
Aesthetics: 10/10
Creativity: 9/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 48/50
As expected from Titan :)

Creator Name: neobowman
Map Name: (2)Klyma(n)
Positional Balance: 9/10
Racial Balance: 7/10 - Long bridge..
Aesthetics: 10/10 - LAWL KERRY!
Creativity: 10/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 46/50
Very nice map. You have done well.

Creator Name: Dem0nS1ayer
Map Name: (2)Scattered Ruins(n)
Positional Balance: 9/10
Racial Balance: 9/10
Aesthetics: 9.5/10 - A bit heavy on doodad use.
Creativity: 9/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 46.5/50

Creator Name: friedleaves
Map Name: (2)Agorix1.2(n)
Positional Balance: 10/10
Racial Balance: 10/10
Aesthetics: 9/10
Creativity: 7/10
Focus on the Theme: 10/10
Total: 46/50

My bad, I didn't realize it was out of fifty. Shame on me. I just added up the points you missed and then subtracted... from forty.

[Protogod]

youre almost right, akar. Now divide by five for a score out of 10.

Jesus....

[TitanWing]

So what exactly are the final grades?

[friedleaves]

The average of the two, I suppose?

Darn, I got the lowest. Whatever.

[SilverCrusader]

TitanWing - 9.6
neobowman - 9.2
Dem0nS1ayer - 9.3
friedleaves - 9.2

[Protogod]

Final grades (totals)

These are the averages of akar's grades and my grades totals. These are the ones that matter, & determine your position for the newspost.

Titan; 9.3
Neobowman; 8.95
Dem0ns1ayer; 9.45
Friedleaves; 8.9

[TitanWing]

Damn...

Well, congrats Dem0nS1ayer! :)

[neobowman]

Meh third. Congrats to everyone who participated. I applaud Dem0nS1ayer on your performance.

[Protogod]

There's still a little work to be done before the newsposts (both the Dec. and Nov. Contests are going up at once.) however the grades are in for you guys.

If you wanna know the truth, I am very impressed with Dem0nS1ayer. He turned his map in way early, and still had one of the most impeccable levels of detail I've seen on a real melee map. Although his design wasnt necessarily innovative, it was definitely pretty balanced, and just well-made overall.

[friedleaves]

Wow, congrats dem0ns1ayer.

I though Orpheus was going to blow away the competition, but I was wrong.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Wow... Two first places in a row... Thanks for all the congrats.

[TitanWing]

What exactly lost me 2 points in creativity anyways? I thought I was very original.

[neobowman]

I think it was beacuse there really wasn't that big of a new concept. Nothing against your map and I think it is wonderful but it really seems like somethings missing. Just my what I think lost you the marks.

By the way, when are the marks going to be posted on starcraft.org?

[Protogod]

By the way, when are the marks going to be posted on starcraft.org?

When I finish hunting down Pythum's map to give him some sort of credit for signing up.

Then I will post both November and December grades.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

Have you found Pythum's map yet??

[TitanWing]

If not, nobody cares. Just make the news post, he apparently doesn't consider it high on his priority list to get the map to you.

[TitanWing]

...or not.

[neobowman]

Really is taking a while. Who's hosting the Feb contest?

[TitanWing]

I'm retiring...seems the contest wants to go with me.

[Dem0nS1ayer]

I haven't seen Proto on (at least not in the Maps and Mods Depot) in a while, so I don't really think that the news thing will even go up...

[Protogod]

Really is taking a while. Who's hosting the Feb contest?
Me.
I'm retiring...seems the contest wants to go with me.
I'm just short on capable judges and members.
I haven't seen Proto on (at least not in the Maps and Mods Depot) in a while, so I don't really think that the news thing will even go up...
I've been on the forums, but you guys can take care of yourselves for the mostpart.

As for the newspost, I do have other things to do, atm, and I apologize, but they'll go up when I can get them up. WB interest stories go on the backburners when we have sc2 info to work on and an official tournament or two to think about.

But yeah, terribly sorry I'm not working within your schedule.

[TitanWing]

Alright, well just fit it in when you can.

[Protogod]

Alright, well just fit it in when you can.

The november contest results and mappack are up as of today, btw.

I'm hoping to post the December results and February contest thread on the 31st.