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CrazyTom
09-18-2007, 4:58 AM
http://marryourdaughter.net/index.php

Does this scare you as much as it scares me?

http://marryourdaughter.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=9

I'm not sure what scares me more, the fact that this site exists or the fact that someone would sell their duaghter like a piece of (expensive) meat. Then again, I suppose it could be motivated out of some twisted desire to protect their daughter by having her marry someone who has money, who they can vet... Or again it could just be sick parents who see their child as nothing more than a money-making opportunity.

The fact that it's based on Biblical references also disgusts me, especially since it's OT stuff. I guess that's because I consider the OT far different from how I view Christianity in general and how I go about my personal relationship with God. But, umm... thoughts?

Edit: http://www.coolnurse.com/marriage_laws.htm - is the site linked to by the website, and it's disturbing enough on it's own - in some states of America you can get married at under 15 years of age if your parents give permission. Is it appropriate to offer someone so young into a relationship that could easily turn destructive / abusive? Would a fifteen-year old know enough to make an informed decision either way?

Lazere
09-18-2007, 1:49 PM
Out of all the disturbing things on the internet (too many) this has to be the most disturbing by far... The fact that it's protected by the law is possibly the most disturbing thing there though...

BludSyko
09-19-2007, 8:15 PM
Holy fuck, that is sick! One of those girls is 14 (and a half -- the fact that there is a half makes it that much worse.).

I believe there are some religions/countries where it's customary to marry off your daughter to a man she doesn't know [arranged marriages], even at a young age. I guess the fact that it's protected by law is to support those religious traditions.

To me, I don't think any of that is right. Women are not expensive cuts of meat to be sold or married off.

SilverCrusader
09-19-2007, 8:58 PM
Eww... you can't sell love... and that isn't biblical... The bible didn't have prearranged marriages (I don't think), and they sure as hell didn't charge money for them. They aren't really following the bible at all.

masterofhobbiton
09-19-2007, 9:00 PM
Of course it had prearranged marriages, they had that through the dark ages. In medieval times families would marry off their daughters for social power reasons.

SilverCrusader
09-19-2007, 9:05 PM
Of course it had prearranged marriages, they had that through the dark ages. In medieval times families would marry off their daughters for social power reasons.
Probably did, but still. They aren't following the bible, THEY aren't prearranging marriages, they are selling their daughters.

Zerg_eater
09-19-2007, 9:21 PM
didnt kong show this to us in IRC? but still... Its possible the guy who craeted the site doesn't believe in his religion.

U-238
09-19-2007, 9:36 PM
Of course he doesn't he's just in it for the massive amounts of commission that's probably involved.

Personally I find that disgusting. I mean, back in the day they did that yea, but the thing is, is that they parents usually knew each other enough to make a good enough judgment. This is just sticking your girl on a site and saying "here she is! I want $30,000 and she's yours. I don't give a fuck that you're a falsified rapist who lives in malagawai."

SuiCidAl-KiSmEt
09-19-2007, 9:38 PM
With regard, I still found this a little overwhelming, and a bit humorous. Having some 15 year old or something saying that they want to commit to an awaiting husband's satisfaction and pleasures, and one descriptions said they want to raise at least four babies. - Kids wanting kids O.o

In finding a happiness in this age, you can find a relationship in an area around you, you could find a better one somewhere else. I don't want to support this thing, but I wouldn't immediately disrespect this. It's different, it might be wrong randomly destine their daughters lives like this, it might not be biblical but there is a good intention into this. They get to find love (probably), and they benefit the people they care about. Some daughters there seem to be satisfied with the idea. Maybe its smarter, or not, but at least you can earn some money for other people in need of a happier ending, e.g. help give a brand new car or a house to the loving caring people who sold you off. ;S

But I have to agree that marriage is a more of an adult thing and selling little girls is not the proudest way to make some cash.

BludSyko
09-19-2007, 10:04 PM
Eww... you can't sell love... and that isn't biblical... The bible didn't have prearranged marriages (I don't think), and they sure as hell didn't charge money for them. They aren't really following the bible at all.

Just because I said religious, it doesn't mean I'm talking about the Christian bible. I'm talking about (I believe) in India. *Thinks about Apu, from the Simpsons* Though, I could be fully wrong about India.

masterofhobbiton
09-19-2007, 10:17 PM
*keeps reading the site*

Wow, this couldn't have more sick humor if it wanted to, this is the sort of thing you'd see on the simpsons or family guy. Emphasis on sick.

From Testimonials:
“Our 15 year old daughter Mary wasn’t very popular and did nothing but mope around the house bringing everybody down, so we decided to marry her off through your site. Now our house is a lot cheerier and we love our new swimming pool and Jaccuzi! We’ve told our youngest that when she turns 15 we’re going to marry her off too!"

LinkTheGameFreak
09-19-2007, 10:23 PM
I call "shenanigans" on the site - it hasn't even been online long enough to be be archived on the archive.org website. And considering the amount of testimonials, I simply don't think they've been up long enough to get that number

That having been said, it doesn't sound serious to me - it looks more like a prank but if it's not I am sick by the audacity that these parents have to permit their children to marry at a young age, knowing full well that at 13 you are still maturing mentally and can't make a competent decision most of the time of what to wear the next morning, let alone make a decision that will affect the rest of your life.

And that having been said, I had a good laugh from the testimonials on the site, as well as one girl who was described as having gotten an "A in Home Ec!" and was like 13 and a half - funny stuff (if it's not true)

edit: Kristin J. looked familiar to both me and a friend of mine who saw the site - we think she might be an internet model - I'm gonna find out...

SilverCrusader
09-19-2007, 10:27 PM
Marry Our Daughter is an introduction service assisting those following the Biblical tradition of arranging marriages for their daughters.
Bible is in it.

Sarah calls herself a Goth but we insisted she not dress in black for this photo. She reads and writes a lot of depressing poetry and it takes a lot to get her nose out of a book. She says she’s an Old Soul in a new young body and she’s already been married lots of times and she might die again tomorrow so why wait?
Look! you can marry an emo for the mere price of 26,995$!

U-238
09-19-2007, 10:40 PM
I'm still looking through the bible for references to arranged marriage.

So far I've found a few instances of it, but absolutely nothing on the subject of condemning/condoning it.

CrazyTom
09-20-2007, 5:35 AM
I didn't realise the site might be faked, I guess that's a possibility. But I wouldn't know how to tell.

As for arranged marriages in the Bible... yeah, I don't think it has a 'stated view' per se, but there are a few instances of it occurring. There's the guy who works for seven years to marry his bosses' younger daughter, only to wake up in bed with the wrong one... and then works another seven years to marry the other daughter. I don't think they had much say in it.

There's also a good deal about marrying your dead brother's wife, or something, which implies the woman doesn't get much of a say in the decision - although that's more about supporting and looking after her, I think. (I need to read the Bible more. ;) )

LinkTheGameFreak
09-20-2007, 1:32 PM
I didn't realise the site might be faked, I guess that's a possibility. But I wouldn't know how to tell.

As for arranged marriages in the Bible... yeah, I don't think it has a 'stated view' per se, but there are a few instances of it occurring. There's the guy who works for seven years to marry his bosses' younger daughter, only to wake up in bed with the wrong one... and then works another seven years to marry the other daughter. I don't think they had much say in it.

There's also a good deal about marrying your dead brother's wife, or something, which implies the woman doesn't get much of a say in the decision - although that's more about supporting and looking after her, I think. (I need to read the Bible more. ;) )
well something else weird is now that it's been updated and some minor things changed since you first posted it and moved to a new domain (from marryourdaughter.net to marryourdaughter.biz)

Just out of curiosity, where did you first find out about the site?

CrazyTom
09-20-2007, 2:34 PM
A forum over on malazanempire.com.

LinkTheGameFreak
09-20-2007, 2:37 PM
Yeah it's a joke site >> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/please-dont-marry-our-daughters/

CrazyTom
09-20-2007, 3:51 PM
Yeah, I just found that link myself. You went to the same site?

SilverCrusader
09-20-2007, 5:26 PM
Hehe, thats good, because I really didn't think there were people that stupid...

BludSyko
09-20-2007, 6:08 PM
Hehe, thats good, because I really didn't think there were people that stupid...

I do.... In this case, it was fake, but there are people stupid enough to do something like that.

Side note:
Texas has a particularly ridiculous legal discrepancy, he says. Kids as young as 14 need parental permission to get married – unless, the law says, they have already been married before.

Wow....

Galiant
09-21-2007, 5:43 AM
you mean this website offers arranged marriage for money.
and that girl is someone who you havent met before?

...

Gives me shivers...

apostolos
09-21-2007, 6:27 AM
The sickiest thing ever

CrazyTom
09-21-2007, 10:25 AM
Yeah, it's not actually real. Turns out I lose the internet.

However, the legal discrepancy they pointed out confused me... how did a law that stupid get passed?

Oblongato
09-21-2007, 5:19 PM
Just because I said religious, it doesn't mean I'm talking about the Christian bible. I'm talking about (I believe) in India. *Thinks about Apu, from the Simpsons* Though, I could be fully wrong about India.

According to many (if not most) sources, Mohammed (the prophet in Islam) married his second wife, Aisha, when she was 6, but waited until she was nine to consummate it. (The marriage was, of course, arranged.)

TheRighteous
09-23-2007, 12:00 AM
http://marryourdaughter.net/index.php

Does this scare you as much as it scares me?

http://marryourdaughter.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=9

I'm not sure what scares me more, the fact that this site exists or the fact that someone would sell their duaghter like a piece of (expensive) meat. Then again, I suppose it could be motivated out of some twisted desire to protect their daughter by having her marry someone who has money, who they can vet... Or again it could just be sick parents who see their child as nothing more than a money-making opportunity.

The fact that it's based on Biblical references also disgusts me, especially since it's OT stuff. I guess that's because I consider the OT far different from how I view Christianity in general and how I go about my personal relationship with God. But, umm... thoughts?

Edit: http://www.coolnurse.com/marriage_laws.htm - is the site linked to by the website, and it's disturbing enough on it's own - in some states of America you can get married at under 15 years of age if your parents give permission. Is it appropriate to offer someone so young into a relationship that could easily turn destructive / abusive? Would a fifteen-year old know enough to make an informed decision either way?I think I heard this was a joke website one time.

CrazyTom
09-23-2007, 7:21 AM
Yeah, if you'd read the thread before posting you would have seen my realisation of this. However, the issue the website is intending to draw out is that the marriage laws in America are ridiculous - as young as fourteen (with parental consent) - and in some states, parents can marry off their children and be protected by law.

GenocideAlive
09-23-2007, 3:39 PM
The remark in testimonials regarding a "Trailer Park" was particularly telling.

Not that I knew straight away that it was a fake.

Neo
09-24-2007, 12:30 AM
...

Ok, so it's fake. Everyone got that?

Closed.

-Neo