New race possibility?

[TitanWing]

I know a bunch of people want the Xel'Naga or the Hybrids...or BOTH, but I was thinking about how the UED from BW were exactly like the hillbilly Terrans from the K-sector and how that didn't fit at all.

The K-sector Terrans were a bunch of criminals, psychics and various other...um, freaks I suppose I'll call 'em that the UPL wanted removed (via killing) from the human race. Instead of killing them, however, they stuck them on ships and threw them into space.

While the K-sector Terrans are essentially busy trying to survive and build a civilization from scracth (all the while trying to kill each other like the idiot criminals they are), what's the UPL/UED been up to?

The UPL was reformed into the militaristic UED upon the discovery of the Zerg in the K-sector. With the massive amount of funding going into the military, the best they could come up with was field medics and spaceships that (zomg!) shoot rockets? Blizzard themselves have admitted that what they did with the UED was sloppy and illogical. The UED should've had far better weaponry and technology than the other Terrans.

Do you think the UED would make a good 4th race in the SC2 expansion? I do.

[masterofhobbiton]

I think that the UED shouldn't be a wholly new race, they should be like WC3 naga or chaos orcs or dranei, where they get unique buildings and units and stuff but aren't a whole new race. You can use the map editor to use them instead of regular terrans though. :D

[ChimTheGrim21]

If there are any new races, they should remain campaign-only for storyline purposes. They shouldn't be playable competitively as it will make it more difficult to balance.

[Ktan]

I think in the campaign, factions like the Kel Morian Combine, Raynor's Raiders, the Dominion and the Umojan Protectorate (if they are in) could all benefit from slightly different tech trees in the story mode

This would help diversify ant TvT battles, add a little flavour and, because it's UMS, have no damaging effects balance wise.

It also allows the UED (if they return) to be totally different to the K-sector.

Outside of the story though, a 2nd Terran faction is a bad idea. If there's going to be a fourth race, it shouldn't be an offshoot of an earlier race.

[Basan]

I'm tending to agree with Ktan here. If the UED offsprings that differently from the Koprulu Terrans then why not having different Zerg gene pools according to their own specific Cerebrates (who dictate their own Brood's path)? *Thinks Daggoth's or any other Kerrigan renegading broods* :_poke:

[AzVortez]

my god, poor ted! his dog was the the root of the roverlisks, and now the cerebrate can create super-ligns (aka roverlisks)

too bad that cerebrate died.
anyways, like ktan said, i'd just be plain weird if there were two terran races. and i agree with every1's storyline ideas. :)

now lets open a thread where we meanginglyless post "I HAVE TO HAVE STARCRAFT TWO NOW!!!!"

[loads_of_fun]

Maybe possibly like the Naga in WarCraft III, but not as a main playable race. Tho I do not expect to see any new races till StarCraft III, Especially seeing as Blizzard said that they would not add a 4th race to StarCraft II (they did not say anything about the expansion but it sounded like more or less a 'period' thing).

[Faiien]

no ued would resemble the terrans too much with their tech and marines...

[Protogod]

4th race = FTL

are we done yet?

I mean really, they're all human, and the Terran got all their designs and such from earth. It makes sense that the UED would only have (slightly enhanced versions of) the same weapons.

[Kawagata]

i really think it should be the xelnaga, or maybe two new races? Ever think of that?? WW3 had elves and undead so it's possible but unlikely. I'd root for xel naga since it's the ideal possiblity. UED race?? Hell no, in BW they had the same stuff as the normal terrans. why change now??

[Protogod]

Ahem (http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=28772)
Blizzard has yet to publically announce any new races, or denounce them as it stands. However PC Gamer has proclaimed that there will be no new additions to the playable races (done in an exclusive interview.)

Blizzard Reps said this is because other games have added on one, two, or upwards of 10 races to their games, for the sole purpose of adding races. They, however, want to avoid such fiasco, and keep the game's soul for the time being. Instead, they hope to DIVERSIFY the three races already in existance, by stressing the strong and weak points in each race.

Although PC Gamer is a trusted source, and I agree wholeheartedly with their Blizzard Representative, no one on the official SC2 staff has specifically denied the existance of a 4th race, and speculation abounds because of a reference saying that "the xel'naga will play a major part in sc2." This quote, though, makes no indication that xel'naga will be any more playable or concrete than they were in the original.

There've been more developments in the "stfu 4th race advocates" area, but I'm too lazy to go find them atm.

[TitanWing]

i really think it should be the xelnaga, or maybe two new races? Ever think of that?? WW3 had elves and undead so it's possible but unlikely. I'd root for xel naga since it's the ideal possiblity. UED race?? Hell no, in BW they had the same stuff as the normal terrans. why change now??
Xel'Naga race sounds stupid to me...they're dead, let'em stay that way. :shiftyl:

As for your comment on the UED...did you even read my post? I explained that the reason they had the same tech as the K-sector Terrans was because Blizz got sloppy during the BW storyline, they've said it themselves that it didn't make sense for that. Same laziness that cause Artanis to have severed nerve appendages like the Dark Templar.

Oh and Proto, this is a thread for speculation, so can you quit bitching about the lack of proof to support new races in SC2? I said in the expansion anyways, so quit it already.

[Kawagata]

Ahem (http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=28772)


There've been more developments in the "stfu 4th race advocates" area, but I'm too lazy to go find them atm.
obviously.... It's fun anyways though..

Sure xel naga is pretty stupid but it's better then somehow magically have UED recieve mysterious tech.

If you fuck something up don't try to fix it by making it more fucked up. Refer to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEVzPCY2T-g

[Protogod]

Well, the UED came in and basically drafted most of the ex-confeds and small radical groups. That would explain the use of K-sector weaponry, and the prevalence of UED upgrades to said weaponry.

[TitanWing]

Charon boosters being the sole upgrade to K-sector tech.

[Protogod]

Charon boosters being the sole upgrade to K-sector tech.

Medics & valks dont exist?

[DarkMirror]

I say that if they make a new, playable race, I wont buy it. It would ruin starcraft if they added in hybrids and Xel'naga as playable races, and poorly thought oput ones at that, just to make it like WC3.

[Kawagata]

well if we HAD to have a fourth race.

[TitanWing]

Medics & valks dont exist?
Medics and Valks are K-sector in origin?

[DarkMirror]

No, they were made by the UED. So yes, I get what your saying. they UPGRADED the boosters for the K-sector Golioths.

[3Vee]

I'm not a fan of a fourth race. Not for any aesthetic reasons; purely because I believe it would be almost impossible to balance. (Witness: WC3, DoW, BfME.)

The easiest way to make a fourth race playable and plausible would be to include a hybrid "race". Xel-Naga would almost have to be over-powered to make sense. Any Terran variations wouldn't add a significant variation to the game, as has been said.

[AzVortez]

no fourth race, i thought blizzard made it pretty clear? not for multiplayer anyways.

GO UED!

[TitanWing]

You people don't seem to get it...

I'm not even talking about SC2, I'm talking about it's expansion and the UED's role as a SINGLEPLAYER-ONLY race.

As much as I'd like to see the UED as a multiplayer playable race (I'm a UED fan), that's a lot of balance work and they'll end up very similar to the normal Terrans in some ways.

[Faiien]

exactly...although the xel wouldnt necessarily make for a bad race or any other race as long as it has a unique storyline, its balanced within the game, and theirs only one new race not 9...lol

[AzVortez]

i dont think the xel are a combative race. they're just a bunch of scientists who like to mess with genitics and biology.
thats how they ****ed themselves with the Zerg

[TitanWing]

Agreed. As for hybrids...bleh, sounds stupid to me. Blizzard just doesn't have any good candidates for a completly new 4th race.

[Spiff]

mind if i butt in???

but in my opinion, it would be better if they just add the 3 (the hybrid, xel and the UED) to be a.....complimentary race..
it would be preeeety cool.. and the story is like the protoss revived the xel's, UED working with zergs and terrans managed to have the hybrids...

but... that would be unbalanced.:P

[Protogod]

mind if i butt in???

but in my opinion, it would be better if they just add the 3 (the hybrid, xel and the UED) to be a.....complimentary race..
it would be preeeety cool.. and the story is like the protoss revived the xel's, UED working with zergs and terrans managed to have the hybrids...

but... that would be unbalanced.:P


That made no sense. At all. If other people start noticing I'll delete it for your own safety.

[Thedutchjelle]

That made no sense. At all. If other people start noticing I'll delete it for your own safety.

To bad, i saw it already..
It's okay, my eyes don't bleed.. that much.

Honestly, i don't want a new race. I think the biggest mistake of Blizzard was to put that Duran mission in, it made things so horrid complicated for them.

[TitanWing]

mind if i butt in???

but in my opinion, it would be better if they just add the 3 (the hybrid, xel and the UED) to be a.....complimentary race..
it would be preeeety cool.. and the story is like the protoss revived the xel's, UED working with zergs and terrans managed to have the hybrids...

but... that would be unbalanced.:P
Maybe in some retarded noob campaign, or a SC2 version of "The Bob Levels", but NO!

[Spiff]

OOPPSSS!!!! sorry about that, wrong post...
i meant to reply to a different forum...
sorry...:confused:

[TitanWing]

Suuuuuure.

Still a bad idea wherever it is.

[Protogod]

I think that marks the end of this threads usefulness...

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