blizzcon

[AJ]

if you guys want to know something -- post it here so that it can get answered. ;)

[Neo]

way to hide ur thread.

If they announce anything diablo, I demand extra close coverage plz. Thanks.

Neo's Ghetto coverage; http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=29303

made an announcement to.

-Neo

[romus]

Have you seen any info or gameplay involving the zerg?

[Protogod]

Have you seen any info or gameplay involving the zerg?

as far as i remember, Zerg were not playable. Only P and T were.

[apostolos]

I hope they show some Zergs.

[Faiien]

most likely not, due to the fact that they havnt fine tuned the terrans yet so we might have to wait a lil while b4 z

[TitanWing]

They haven't finished the Protoss either.

Actually, NOTHING is finished.

[Protogod]

Ahzz & I are curious as to whether or not you experienced the ability to select multiple gates/barrackses at one time. We're concerned with the noobifying of sc2.

[Neo]

Isn't that just a given? Considering that its like that in almost every other current RTS?

-Neo

[TitanWing]

Ahzz & I are curious as to whether or not you experienced the ability to select multiple gates/barrackses at one time. We're concerned with the noobifying of sc2.
I don't really care anymore...

As long as the races follow the general theme of SC2, the game is balanced, I can afford the upgrade to my computer and most importantly...that it's fun, I WILL buy SC2.

I honestly don't give a shit if it's too "nooby" for the Koreans to play for a living.

[Magmaniac]

Isn't that just a given? Considering that its like that in almost every other current RTS?

-Neo

How dare you.
Starcraft is not every other RTS. :-P

[Protogod]

How dare you.
Starcraft is not every other RTS.

my sentiment exactly.

[Aqo]

For the sake of the argument, being able to select multiple gates won't exactly make this much easier for noobs if the gameplay remains similar. Macro is already the most basic aspect of the game, and this won't even help you much with it anyway.

[Neo]

Starcraft is an RTS, for it to not include something that most people expect, just because a minority think it will "noobify" the game is unbelievable.

-Neo

[bobboy]

Are there different death animations per character?
I.E. Marine gets killed by zealot vs seige tank.

[Faiien]

i think its fine if you can now select multiple barracks or gateways, yes it does noobify the game or w/e, but itll also concentrate the game more on strats then on clicking abilities

[SunTzu]

Does the Ghost drop pod ability create 6 marines out of thin air or do they have to be built already and positioned somewhere?

If they are just summoned out of thin air then does it cost minerals? Would it allow you to pass the pop cap? And what actually holds the nuke? The shadow ops building? The munitions building?

[Protogod]

Does the Ghost drop pod ability create 6 marines out of thin air or do they have to be built already and positioned somewhere?

If they are just summoned out of thin air then does it cost minerals? Would it allow you to pass the pop cap? And what actually holds the nuke? The shadow ops building? The munitions building?

dont know anything about the drop pods,really, but it looks like there are nuke silos, or they are held in munitions facilities.

[Faiien]

iam guessing nukes are gonna become more common now? O_O
which is bad...for toss players but especially zerg XD

[Protogod]

id be more concerned with drop pods. I mean a nuke you can hear about and try to run away from etc.

If you attack and suddenly 3-4 drop pods show up behind your troops, you're fucked.

[Faiien]

from behind?
that would suck lol
+points for pointing that out proto. i think the drop pods are even more deadly then the stalkers ability to blink which i think is very similar to the drop pods cause they both allow you to flank your enemy or catch them by surprise

[sdbolts11]

If you look at the Ghost abilities, they don't have lockdown.

[Neo]

If you look at the Ghost abilities, they don't have lockdown.

yet

-Neo

[bobboy]

Back to my question? Different death animations???

[sdbolts11]

Yes, there are. The most obvious being with the Ghost's headshot ability. The Terran infantry just drop dead, as opposed to being blown apart by Siege Tanks. Probably not for biological Protoss units since they just fade in a screen of energy or w/e. But for all other units thus far, it depends on the situation.

[DarkLStrike]

I don't think ghost's sniping ability would effect protoss units at all. Since all protoss units, including their infantry, is surrounded by shields. One sniper bullet wouldn't cut it against shields.

[sdbolts11]

Possibly. Would kind of be imbalanced too when your effortlessly owning those expensive Protoss infantry.

[Skullflower]

Back to my question? Different death animations???

Yeah. When Reapers die sometimes the jetpack flies off and sometimes they explode.

[TitanWing]

Most noticeable is the Marines however.

Collossus causes them to spray blood out their helmets and fall to the ground.
Zealots rip them in half.
Explosions cause them to die in a similar fashion as before...blowing up.
Ghost's Snipe causes them to spray a small amount of blood from the face and fall to the ground.

[apostolos]

This ads reallism in the game.

[TitanWing]

Thank you Captain Obvious.

[sdbolts11]

Ah seems there are two Captain Obviouses now :D
First me and now apostolos :D

[TitanWing]

You can be Captain Rediculously Blatently Obvious. :P

Full name.

[AJ]

Have you seen any info or gameplay involving the zerg?
I did get some info on the Zerg, however I cannot share it with you guys. Sorry!

Ahzz & I are curious as to whether or not you experienced the ability to select multiple gates/barrackses at one time. We're concerned with the noobifying of sc2.
You can select multiple gates/barracks and select a unit to build. The implications of this can be argued, and we'll see if it carries through to the final product.

Are there different death animations per character?
I.E. Marine gets killed by zealot vs seige tank.
There are. Some are based on the type of death, splash/direct .. others are based on which unit kills it. Some were still pretty graphical, which at times made it hard to tell if a unit was actually dead or not. I suspect this will change a bit.

[romus]

I did get some info on the Zerg, however I cannot share it with you guys. Sorry!



Does anyone else feel the urge to strangle AJ right now...? (j/k)

[DarkMirror]

Damn you, .Org Dietity, damn you!
I hate suspense.

[Protogod]

Damn you, .Org Dietity, damn you!

thats worth a +rep.

[DarkMirror]

Thanks. :)

[sdbolts11]

I did get some info on the Zerg, however I cannot share it with you guys. Sorry!

How about you spill the beans perhaps?

[Protogod]

How about you spill the beans perhaps?


Yes, because .org wants a broken non-disclosure agreement. Thats not gonna have lawyers on our ass at all...

[ecyor0]

Patience is a virtue my friends..... in time, the truth will be revealed......

Do you know if/when it will be possible to see the SC2 storyline video on youtube? My computer refuses to play the current one on SC.org

[West]

uh... did they announce the time-day-month-year SC2 comes out
(i know thats not a real question, but im so excited to talk to AJ im near
pissing myself twice)
and, did they announce anything about a fourth race? it sounds like we will meet the xel' naga from the movie they showed, also, did you get to play
SC2/WoW new expansion? and, (zomg im so excited ^_^) did they give you any information about mapping/modding SC2???

[TitanWing]

How about you do your own damn research instead of ask us stupid questions?

[Protogod]

The hostility is unnecessary. Just pull a proto, call him stupid, and answer one or more of his questions.

No, they did not announce when sc2 will come out.
NO THERE IS NOT A 4TH RACE FFS
and yes, sc2 was playable at blizzcon, but it was jsut abeta demo.

[TitanWing]

The hostility is unnecessary. Just pull a proto, call him stupid, and answer one or more of his questions.

No, they did not announce when sc2 will come out.
NO THERE IS NOT A 4TH RACE FFS
and yes, sc2 was playable at blizzcon, but it was jsut abeta demo.
"...and your stupid."

[Protogod]

"...and your stupid."

Almost forgot that part.

[AJ]

As proto said, no release date was set.
Browder and the entire Blizz team are going to release this when it meets their standards, so read whatever you want from that.

The storyline will involve the Xel'Naga, however no one knows for sure just to what extent, though I doubt we'll see a playable race .. probably more like the Burning Legion taking a role in the story but not playable.

Both games were playable at BlizzCon, I have been promising a write-up of my extensive time with the game and I'll try to get that up this week for you all.

Regarding the storyline video, we'll look for a better source, but for now it should work, make sure to check your settings inside your browser.

[pytum]

yeah... the havent finished the zerg!!
the devourers might be thrown

[sdbolts11]

Who said that?

[pytum]

i said that :P

[TitanWing]

Lol, yeah Pytum said that.

I think the Zerg units that need to watch out are:
1. Queen
2. Ultralisk
3. Devourer

[sdbolts11]

Ultralisk is the heavy assault unit of the Zerg. It can be compared to the Terran Siege Tank. It has to stay. However, queens and devies.... idk.

[DarkMirror]

Ultralisk needs to be replaced. It sucked.

[BlackDefiler]

Ultralisk needs to be replaced. It sucked
I don't know how many pro PvZ MUs you've seen lately, but let me tell you Ultraling is a common practice there. I hope the Ultra stays, although the Devie can go IMO.

[DarkMirror]

But you seem to be forgetting...
This is SC2, so old tactics wont work.

[BlackDefiler]

Sorry. I thought the past-tense suggested you were refering to something in the past (it suckED), but eighter way how do you know any SC2 strategies?

[DarkMirror]

I dont. But keep in mind, most of the old units are gone, and the new ones mean new stats. So ultras, if they stayed, might be useless.

[Ktan]

Ultralisk is iconic. Look at the StarCraft Ghost video. Here are the units shown:

Marines - IN
Firebats - OUT
Dropships - IN
Mutalisks - IN
Zerglings - IN
Hydralisks - IN
Ghosts - IN
Ultralisk - ?

Out of all those, only one unit has been dropped, and that's likely been replaced with the Reaper. The Ultralisk A) Still holds a role in the Zerg army as a heavy shock unit and B) Is a highly iconic Zerg unit. When you think of Zerg, you think Mutas, 'Lings, Hydras and Ultras. Units like the Queen, Devourer and Defiler aren't as iconic (the Defiler will probably still come back though, since it's so useful. Just possibly in different clothing.)

Sure, the Wraith kinda got ditched too, but it's probably one of the more surprising loses, like the Ultra would be. If the ultra does indeed 'suck', they could always buff it.

[DarkMirror]

I dont want all of the zerg units back. I want lings, mutas, hydras, lurkers, overlords, drones. Everything else needs to be diffreent.

[Protogod]

I dont want all of the zerg units back. I want lings, mutas, hydras, lurkers, overlords, drones. Everything else needs to be diffreent.

so guard dev scourge ultra defiler queen & anything i missed needs to go?

Thats alot of stuff, dude, especially given that the defiler was useful and the ultralisk was very common.

[AJ]

Everything is on the table in terms of getting cut or changed.
Try not to stay too attached -- everything has the feel of the appropriate race but isn't always the same.

I didn't miss the wraiths at all, you have plenty of air options now. Nor did I miss goliaths or any other replaced unit. The game changes and you change with it.

[DarkMirror]

I meant that they have to be updated/overhauled.
You can have a defiler, just make it not a defiler.

[TitanWing]

I like the looks of the defiler. I hope they don't feel the need to change EVERYTHING like they did to the tank.

[pytum]

ultras ftw!... they were very handy with reavers and dark archons... and now we have the colosus and the immortal... just nice

[UndeadBastard]

I like the looks of the defiler. I hope they don't feel the need to change EVERYTHING like they did to the tank.



Several space years after SC1..I think it's time for an upgrade =)

[TitanWing]

No it's not.

[IceSkirt]

Yea the Defiler has one of the best concept and look.

[sdbolts11]

Yup, looks like a tight kickass scorpion kind of thing.

[TitanWing]

The Captain Obvious thing is getting redundant.

[apostolos]

The Captain Obvious thing is getting redundant.
I thought that I was cpt.obvious:cry:


The defiler are kickass.They must not be changed

[TitanWing]

Defiler is definately the coolest spellcaster. I would be very disappointed to see it leave, even though I'm a Terran/Protoss player.

[sdbolts11]

I wish the Defiler would have a stinger on its tail so it could be more like a scorpion :D. It would be cool if it also has a melee attack that not only does a fair amount of damage but also POISONS biological units so they slowly lose HP. Not like Plague, as this isn't splash and would only apply to bio. units and decrease their hp at a slower pace.

IMO, just an idea for the Defiler.

[TitanWing]

No...
Agreed. It takes away from the uniqueness of the Defiler to give it an overused "poison" type attack...or any physical attack in general. It's a dedicated spellcaster.