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Dorkz
06-19-2004, 9:29 AM
I am sick of people banning me because I have to download the map. My download rate is actually fairly quick but as soon as I go into a game and start dling its: Ban.
Kick.
He laggs much.
And then they ban me!
Plz give me your views on this.

Nahotnoj
06-19-2004, 10:06 AM
I agree! its really friggin anoying, its like the same people who if you read the mission briefing, in game the say "WHO THE F*CK READ THE BRIEFING?!" and if the map has an option for in-game booting, they boot you. I think it can be understandable if you really hugely lag and it would take forever to dl the map, but they could just boot you.

assassin_666
06-19-2004, 11:38 AM
I am sick of people banning me because I have to download the map. My download rate is actually fairly quick but as soon as I go into a game and start dling its: Ban.
Kick.
He laggs much.
And then they ban me!
Plz give me your views on this.
they pretty mcuh have every right to ban you. if i get banend in a game i say oh well and look for a new one

peace_machine
06-19-2004, 12:10 PM
they pretty mcuh have every right to ban you. if i get banend in a game i say oh well and look for a new one
I kinda agree, but if you lag youll have a little trouble finding another game.

If somebody downloads a map it can also you may also be taken for a newb, some people like to play with others who have experiance in a certian map. (yeh there are like 50 versions of a single map)

Darkslayer633
06-19-2004, 12:14 PM
I agree but the main thing that p**ses me off is thise ppl that are testing a new map they just created and when u join the game u start to dl and no matte how fast it goes some ppl will still boot u
man those ppl are morons

Starscreamkavu
06-19-2004, 1:17 PM
Happens to me all the time. Therefore, I have learned a few rules to help those like me.

1. Avoid game names where it sez "no noobz" or "dl=ban" etc. Try to act like a noob until you have the map.
2. Get a faster internet connection. If you can't manage that, try a new computer (its just a suggestion, i say stick with the noob thing)
3. Make friends. LOTS of friends, so they don't ban you.
4. Keep saying "Hey I thought I had this map!" over and over. It always tricks em. :D
5. NEVER NEVER NEVER change ure screen name. Keep ure same account.

Hope I helped.

STARSCREAMKAVU

assassin_666
06-19-2004, 3:35 PM
dark those people could have reason you dont know of

Happens to me all the time. Therefore, I have learned a few rules to help those like me.

1. Avoid game names where it sez "no noobz" or "dl=ban" etc. Try to act like a noob until you have the map.
2. Get a faster internet connection. If you can't manage that, try a new computer (its just a suggestion, i say stick with the noob thing)
3. Make friends. LOTS of friends, so they don't ban you.
4. Keep saying "Hey I thought I had this map!" over and over. It always tricks em. :D
5. NEVER NEVER NEVER change ure screen name. Keep ure same account.

Hope I helped.

STARSCREAMKAVU
1.lil obvious not to go into dl=ban games
2. is important to have fast connection
3. its good thing to have friends but dont do it for the hell of it
4. saying you have the map is low
5. why not change account?

bluemicrobyte
06-20-2004, 3:05 AM
I agree but the main thing that p**ses me off is thise ppl that are testing a new map they just created and when u join the game u start to dl and no matte how fast it goes some ppl will still boot u
man those ppl are moronsI test maps and I don't boot people (exept if I'm waiting for my friend to join, which is almost never the case)

peace_machine
06-20-2004, 5:27 AM
Happens to me all the time. Therefore, I have learned a few rules to help those like me.

1. Avoid game names where it sez "no noobz" or "dl=ban" etc. Try to act like a noob until you have the map.
2. Get a faster internet connection. If you can't manage that, try a new computer (its just a suggestion, i say stick with the noob thing)
3. Make friends. LOTS of friends, so they don't ban you.
4. Keep saying "Hey I thought I had this map!" over and over. It always tricks em. :D
5. NEVER NEVER NEVER change ure screen name. Keep ure same account.

Hope I helped.

STARSCREAMKAVU
1) If you are not a noob then why avoid it? If you have the map then y avoif it?
2) A lil hard for me, I would have to pay for it myself and Im not about to waste my money like that.
3) Make good friends, yeah. (im still open)
4) That would get annoying, you are lying and it dosn't always fool anybody
5) Why?

I still don't see the big deal, at any given time there are a couple of thousand games running on battle.net so just join another one.

Dorkz
06-20-2004, 12:07 PM
The "I thought I had this map" works very good, but it still don't fool experts. Friends... I don't know about that. I have a school friend who plays on SC a lot but I'm not gonna wait half an hour for him to dl. I just ban him after ppl realyy start to complain. Faster connection - Getting broadband soon! Still, these don't work generally anyway apart from the friends and the "I thoght I had" because you get a rep as a lag after a while. Find a clan is probably the best way. You can play all you like and you are never, ever banned.

EdvardMunch
06-20-2004, 12:29 PM
I think the most important thing is to talk (intelligently) in the waiting room. You are no longer an anonymous screen name being banned, but an actual person.

For example, in Millgram's experiments with comformity, Millgram had volunteers shock other volunteers (they were actually actors pretending to be shocked, but the volunteers didn't know that) when they got a question wrong. Every shock would be 15 volts higher than the last, and the shocks went as high as 150 volts (I think) which was labelled "Extremely Dangerous". Millgram wanted to know at what point the volunteers resisted him and refused to continue shocking a complete stranger.

Millgram sometimes put the volunteers in the same room as the actor, and he found that the volunteers would resist earlier, as opposed to when the volunteers were in another room and could not see the actor.

The lesson from all of this? (One of many) Anonymity and passivity make a person a better victim.

Something else to say to not look like a newbie: "I love this map."

Of course, this is all moot if you get banned the second you enter the channel.

assassin_666
06-20-2004, 1:47 PM
saying you have the map can work cause there is glitches where you dl a map again or you could of dl a diffrent ver of it

GiaDragoness
06-21-2004, 2:34 PM
I agree! its really friggin anoying, its like the same people who if you read the mission briefing, in game the say "WHO THE F*CK READ THE BRIEFING?!" and if the map has an option for in-game booting, they boot you. I think it can be understandable if you really hugely lag and it would take forever to dl the map, but they could just boot you.'

Ha, whats even MORE annoying, is when you make a complicated game, that requires people to read the briefing, then everyone skips it, then asks "htf do you play?" When i say like 14 times in the waiting room "Read the briefing everyone or you will be lost." I think people like that are the kind of complete fucking morons who are way to fucking trigger happy and type in like "gogogog go ogogogo" Shit in the chatrooms because they are so fucking impatient, because they are just 14 year old litte fucks who didnt do their homework yet and are getting yelled at by their parents cause their disobedient and rude little fucks who dont know the value of a good lesson and are just plain straight up assholes!!!

wow, ok then. uhm, Let me see, now that i vented for the day, where was i? Ah yes. Anyways, People are just impatient and rude, and they all want to "go now!". They often skip briefing to save time. They ban you often because not just because they think "OMG! A NEWB! HE WILL KILL US ALL! HE WILL ASK TO MANY QUESTIONS!", but rather your dl no mater how fast is an inconveinece to them. People in america these days, I am one, and sorry if I offend any other americans, have in our lives, some stuff we need, and some stuff we dont. Too often, we put in too much of the stuff we dont need, then we race around, trying to get that ll done, plus stuff we need. We are so inconsiderate this day in age, that our oh so precious time, is so important to us, we would'nt spare a poor sap a second of our time to save someone's life. Many of us have gotten VERY greedy, and selfish. This does not only apply to americans, I have seen many other people act like this too. No race is exempt from this. People for the most part just don't really see what they are doing as wrong sometimes, and what's worse, even when they do, they just dont care. They could'nt give one damn less about someone they never met before. It's kinda sad to think We all, as (heavens forbid, a bible related opinion in america! oh no) God's children cant spare a minute of our lives to extend some decency to a fellow person. One we may have never met before, but that still in no way, takes away from the fact that there is still a human being on the other side of that line that you are shutting out just because it would be a minor "inconveinence" to you. Ok, now I'm just sick.


Uhg, before I get too much worse with thinking so much about this, all i can say is be pollite, dont act like first timer, and try to adapt as best you can. Follow what red does, quite often, he knows the way to go.



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peace_machine
06-21-2004, 10:08 PM
Do you feel better now GiaDragoness? Good.

Just curious, has anybody actually asked peopole to wait for a dl? If somebody askes me not to ban them or not to leave (if I joind another persons game and there are only 2 of us) I will usually do as they ask.

Or is that just me?

CODEZERO
06-21-2004, 10:30 PM
i agree god damn it if they would let me dl cause usually i only play games that i have exp on like dota for warcraft 3 just because there so many damn version that i have but soon a new one comes out and then u join they ban u because they think ur a newb or u lag i hate it ARGH

Battlecruiser
06-22-2004, 3:54 PM
I think people like that are the kind of complete fucking morons who are way to fucking trigger happy and type in like "gogogog go ogogogo" Shit in the chatrooms because they are so fucking impatient, because they are just 14 year old litte fucks who didnt do their homework yet and are getting yelled at by their parents cause their disobedient and rude little fucks who dont know the value of a good lesson and are just plain straight up assholes!!!
What is with people picking on 14 year olds. Everyone thinks that 14 year olds are immature and are complete retards. That isn't true. How do you even know they are 14? I bet you just assumed that. God... why don't YOU stop stereotyping?

GiaDragoness
06-23-2004, 4:08 PM
What is with people picking on 14 year olds. Everyone thinks that 14 year olds are immature and are complete retards. That isn't true. How do you even know they are 14? I bet you just assumed that. God... why don't YOU stop stereotyping?


First of all, I know what kids around detroit(where I grew up) were like when they were 14, second, it was a generalization, not a stereotype. I wanted to go lower like 10, but i was using this, not picking any peticular age bracket, but just that they were acting too immature for their age is what I was getting at. If you felt offended well then sorry, It was'nt my intention to offend you, oh mighty newb's weapon of chioce on the money maps (it's a joke, i'm poking at your name. see?), but we all gotta live with some "titles" we dont like. As it is, my whole town thinks I'm evil reincarnated (no joking). I dont think my recent act of scaring away the door to door mormons helped my reputation much though, hhhmmmm.......




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Battlecruiser
06-23-2004, 5:10 PM
First of all, I know what kids around detroit(where I grew up) were like when they were 14, second, it was a generalization, not a stereotype. I wanted to go lower like 10, but i was using this, not picking any peticular age bracket, but just that they were acting too immature for their age is what I was getting at. If you felt offended well then sorry, It was'nt my intention to offend you, oh mighty newb's weapon of chioce on the money maps (it's a joke, i'm poking at your name. see?), but we all gotta live with some "titles" we dont like. As it is, my whole town thinks I'm evil reincarnated (no joking). I dont think my recent act of scaring away the door to door mormons helped my reputation much though, hhhmmmm.......




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Yeah, well your not the first. So many people think that, and it got me pissed off. I mean, how old are you? I am sure there are many immature kids your age too, so stop picking on 14 years olds. Oh yeah, carriers are what newbs use in fastest possible maps, but so did one of the best protoss players. I think Reach.

Dark_Viper
06-23-2004, 6:43 PM
second, it was a generalization, not a stereotype. one thing you have wrong there... generalizations ARE stereotypes

Nahotnoj
06-23-2004, 6:54 PM
As it is, my whole town thinks I'm evil reincarnated (no joking). I dont think my recent act of scaring away the door to door mormons helped my reputation much though, hhhmmmm.......


wow... thats kinda disturbing and freaky...

stealthey
06-24-2004, 11:19 PM
First of all, GIA AND BATTLECRUISER, STOP FIGHTING!!!!! ok then, We've all forgotten the main topic of this forum, and we have turned it into a forum where you can express your anger! Anyway, Yes, I too think that it is not fair that you get banned just because you have to dl the map!

CODEZERO
06-24-2004, 11:59 PM
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I think people like that are the kind of complete fucking morons who are way to fucking trigger happy and type in like "gogogog go ogogogo" Shit in the chatrooms because they are so fucking impatient, because they are just 14 year old litte fucks who didnt do their homework yet and are getting yelled at by their parents cause their disobedient and rude little fucks who dont know the value of a good lesson and are just plain straight up assholes!!!
argh im 14 and right now i hate u for as rite now i want to burn u on fire

Ole-The-Murder
06-25-2004, 6:31 AM
Let's say following scenario:
You make a map and want people to play it, you haven't uploaded it somewhere else and you ban the people who try to download it because you are afraid of....SIC! Wasting time....then you end up with no players...ah, the luxury of impatience!...or more like the backside of. Bah. It isn't that damn crisis, when you don't give them a chanche to finish downloading it the lag will never happen again, so all you need is PATIENCE. ARGH! ARGH!!!! I such agree with Gia Dragoness, damn these rushing morons. I say, pin them in and drug them down! Fuckin' sickos.... :p

peace_machine
06-25-2004, 7:59 AM
...You make a map and want people to make it, you haven't uploaded it somewhere else and you ban the people who try to download it...
That dosn't really make sense? I make a map so somebody else will make the same map? Also not everybody who plays on battle.net makes a habit of browsing through all the SC fan sites for map dls.

And finally yes there are some impatient people out there, there are even people who will leave a room if they have to dl. They may want a fast game because tehy have an exam in a few hours and want to relive their mind of studying 5 text books that contridict each other so that no matter what which one you study the exam is going to make you want to shoot yourself, if not suicidal then shoot the fricking paper and the technician who fixed the printer that printed out the exam...

(twas my turn to rant)

Ole-The-Murder
06-25-2004, 10:20 AM
I understand. But not all these impatient people have problems with limited time frames, some - or even the majority - is just rushing, because well, they have the urgent need to "own" people, fast and simple, paying no heed to others. And uh, I meant "play" not "make" it...miswritten...you make a game room and want people to PLAY it..but you ban them because you won't let them download it....hahahhaha...rhetoric, huh? :D

Noodlz
06-29-2004, 12:11 PM
lol when i dl maps i ask them if they wanna hear a joke. Then i just make up soem lame jokes like

WHy did the chicken cross the road? lol

Ole-The-Murder
06-29-2004, 2:30 PM
That wasn't funny. Now I see the reason why DL'ers are getting banned; Not for DL'ing, but using their time to tell lame jokes.
*Bans NoodlZ while downloading a map and it's almost finished when Noodlz tells a lame joke. Bang. End of fun, huh?

Ikeren
06-29-2004, 9:41 PM
I think they have every right to do so, but they should really think for eight seconds, because it's likely (with the fast download rates and small map sizes) that you'lll have the game fill up faster if you let people download, rather then waiting till you find 1-7 others that already have this exact same map, version of map. One of the things that bugs me, is that I have something like 999 versions of really stupid money maps that some noob made and then when I asked if it was a money map they said "No"....want to strangle those people. That say it's not a money map, you only have 35 mineral spots with 15k mineral each.

GiaDragoness
06-30-2004, 1:11 PM
First of all Battlecruiser, there are no immature kids around my age bracket because people my age are only possibly kids at heart. I'm 20, and go to college. Enjoy your youth, mine has slipped away!!! *screams: NOOOOO!!!!*


wow... thats kinda disturbing and freaky...
You have no idea. lol. Trust me, I if I told you how I did it, none of you would beleive me. And those who did, probably would never talk to me the same way ever again. lol. Ah well, good thing about being a girl is you can get away with stuff like this a slight bit more than boys. ^_^ lol. (of course now my parents are making me go to catholic reform school. damn 11 & 12 year old kids i'm stuck with on the weekends. lol)



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Battlecruiser
06-30-2004, 9:36 PM
First of all, GIA AND BATTLECRUISER, STOP FIGHTING!!!!!
Ok... It was one post. We weren't fighting and if anyone forgot the main topic of the thread then that is sad.

Valjean
06-30-2004, 10:26 PM
No race is exempt from this.
Except the Dutch. ;)

Those damn Dutch...ies, making me look like an ass...*shakes fist*

What is with people picking on 14 year olds. Everyone thinks that 14 year olds are immature and are complete retards. That isn't true. How do you even know they are 14? I bet you just assumed that. God... why don't YOU stop stereotyping?
Heh, you 14 year olds have it lucky. Most everyone I've heard from when they rant call 12 year olds the retards. So annoying. Can't want till I'm 13. >_<

Trust me, I if I told you how I did it, none of you would beleive me.
Damn you, now you've made me all curious!! >_<

ON TOPIC:

Yeah, those bastards have no right in pulling that shit.

"OMFG! HE R TEH DL TEH MAPZ0RZ!1!1!!1! BANBANABANABANBANBaBnbanbanabnabagogogogogogoggo
ogogogogoogogogogogogogo!!!!!11!"

So damn annoying...>_<

Dark_Viper
06-30-2004, 10:38 PM
"OMFG! HE R TEH DL TEH MAPZ0RZ!1!1!!1! BANBANABANABANBANBaBnbanbanabnabagogogogogogoggo
ogogogogoogogogogogogogo!!!!!11!"

So damn annoying...>_<
i think i actally joined a game that said that exact same thing in that order...

Modred
06-30-2004, 11:34 PM
there are no immature kids around my age bracket because people my age are only possibly kids at heart. I'm 20, and go to college

You're right. There are no immature kids in college. But there are a large number of immature college students in college who will do the same thing.

As for banning for downloading, I really dislike people that practice that. Having 56k, I frequently am on the bottom end of the ping, however I do not lag very much in a normal game. But since 56k takes time to download on, I almost always get banned. And as several people have said, you usually don't have the map only because someone edited it and made their own version. Another reason to protect your maps.

Ole-The-Murder
07-01-2004, 7:51 AM
Three words: Get Cable Modem.
Pre' simple, huh? :D

Nahotnoj
07-01-2004, 9:53 AM
Three words: Get Cable Modem.
Pre' simple, huh? :D
Or instead, you could get dsl

Darobat
07-04-2004, 1:29 PM
Theres another view on this that also pisses me off. Its the map stealers. You create a game, and it fills up. A bunch of people are dling the map, but as soon as they finish they leave! wtf?!?! If they want the map, why dont they stay in your game and play it!?!? That doesnt make sense either.

Valjean
07-04-2004, 3:20 PM
Theres another view on this that also pisses me off. Its the map stealers. You create a game, and it fills up. A bunch of people are dling the map, but as soon as they finish they leave! wtf?!?! If they want the map, why dont they stay in your game and play it!?!? That doesnt make sense either.

Eh. Those are usually the people that go,

"GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGGOG GOGOOG
OGOGOGOO!o!GOo!og1o1go11og1og1ogg1o1goog1O1go!GO!G O!gO!GO!GO!GO"

and they're so focused on doing that that they don't realize either they're or someone else is still dling and then they leave because they're impatient fucks.

Idiots. :rolleyes:

peace_machine
07-05-2004, 12:04 AM
Eh. Those are usually the people that go,

"GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGGOG GOGOOG
OGOGOGOO!o!GOo!og1o1go11og1og1ogg1o1goog1O1go!GO!G O!gO!GO!GO!GO"

and they're so focused on doing that that they don't realize either they're or someone else is still dling and then they leave because they're impatient fucks.

Idiots. :rolleyes:
These are the kinda people I ban. God I hate flooders, spamers, opluckys.

GiaDragoness
07-05-2004, 4:02 PM
Damn you, now you've made me all curious!! >_<


Let's just leave it at it including me holding one of those wierd swurvy knifes with ketchup on it, red magic markered satanic symbols drawn all over me, and me standing and yelling at the door yelling curses in latin(or at least what i thought latin would sound like) at them. Oh, by the way, add no clothes to the picture whatsoever. and yes, I am serious. Mormons havnt been by our house since. LOL. I think my freinds's crazy impulsivness is rubbing off on me..... Anyways, my parents were not happy when they found out. Well, my mom was'nt, my dad was laughing his ass off.



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singo
07-05-2004, 4:10 PM
Let's just leave it at it including me holding one of those wierd swurvy knifes with ketchup on it, red magic markered satanic symbols drawn all over me, and me standing and yelling at the door yelling curses in latin(or at least what i thought latin would sound like) at them. Oh, by the way, add no clothes to the picture whatsoever. and yes, I am serious. Mormons havnt been by our house since. LOL. I think my freinds's crazy impulsivness is rubbing off on me..... Anyways, my parents were not happy when they found out. Well, my mom was'nt, my dad was laughing his ass off.



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lol, go gia, show those mormons who's boss

IceFlare
07-05-2004, 6:07 PM
Well i think it wud be justified. for example take this situation uve been playing new sunken defence for 10 games now and u always lose cuz some stupid n00b forgot to mine the dumb gas. id be pretty pissed off and so id like to stay away from n00bs and dling a map usually means u havent played the map = n00b. so just to be safe... BAN! i kno some ppl might have played it and are realli good but most of the time theyre not. if say we were all pros and lost cuz the level was too hard and everyone did very well with lots of upgrades and units and sunkens yet still lsoe..... id be disappointed but a gg nonetheless. i hate it when n00bs ruin games its not gg anymore its bs. thats my 2 cents.

peace_machine
07-06-2004, 1:31 AM
Well i think it wud be justified. for example take this situation uve been playing new sunken defence for 10 games now and u always lose cuz some stupid n00b forgot to mine the dumb gas. id be pretty pissed off and so id like to stay away from n00bs and dling a map usually means u havent played the map = n00b. so just to be safe... BAN! i kno some ppl might have played it and are realli good but most of the time theyre not. if say we were all pros and lost cuz the level was too hard and everyone did very well with lots of upgrades and units and sunkens yet still lsoe..... id be disappointed but a gg nonetheless. i hate it when n00bs ruin games its not gg anymore its bs. thats my 2 cents.
Ok a map dl can usually mean there is a newb about, but there are over 500+ sunken D maps. It is kinda impossible to expect somebody to own them all. Also all sunken Ds play in basically the same way don't they? Build sunkens?

What I hate are sniper newbs! God damn it! Can't expect everyone to be good but under 10 kills in half an hour is a joke.

Also sometimes you have to ban somebody to even up team games.

GiaDragoness
07-06-2004, 1:56 PM
What I hate are sniper newbs! God damn it! Can't expect everyone to be good but under 10 kills in half an hour is a joke.

Wow, you would'nt like me then, the last time i played sniper paintball, i lost like 40 times in a row because i could NEVER GET OFF A SINGLE DAMN SHOT! Even thouh i click on somebody, they shoot me first. Every damn time. After those 40 loses, i threw my laser mouse at the monitor and gave it up. Nether monitor or mouse has worked since.




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peace_machine
07-07-2004, 1:16 AM
Wow, you would'nt like me then, the last time i played sniper paintball, i lost like 40 times in a row because i could NEVER GET OFF A SINGLE DAMN SHOT! Even thouh i click on somebody, they shoot me first. Every damn time. After those 40 loses, i threw my laser mouse at the monitor and gave it up. Nether monitor or mouse has worked since.




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Pthhh paintball. Bald/AOD is the shit. There are alot of SC 'Sniper' clans who worship these maps. I am thinking they have secret training programs where they share luring techniques and teach how to effectivley use for of war and corners. Damn Koreans!