The "missing" enemy.

[Thedutchjelle]

Okay.

So at one point the Protoss had a enemy that we never learn much of.

Facts we have
1) You and Fenix were 'on the field of battle' in your youth.
2) Fenix recalls 'epic battles of his youth'
3) Considering Fenix is 'only' like 400 years old, it cannot have to do anything with the Dark Templar.
4) Aldaris says to the matriach that the 'zerg are unlike any enemy we faced before'

My first thought that it might be a protoss riot or something, but that can hardly been an 'epic battle'.

Thoughts?

[Hyperion]

I have 4 things...

1.) It could be the Aeon of Strife(The Protoss Civil War). But I(If I were a Protoss like Fenix) wouldn't call it a Epic battle. They killed their brethren in the battle field, which I believe Fenix wouldn't even "Enjoy". But since its the "largest" or Intense battle before, it could have been it. But If I'm right, the result of this Civil War, exiled the Dark Templars...which was the other faction. So it could be this because its the "largest" battle before, and it cant be because you said it couldn't have anything to do with the Dark Templar.

2.) It could be some other "extinct" and minor civilization that they battled before, on other planets.

3.) Or maybe they battled the Terran before. But since the first time(ON the Starcraft Timeline) the Terrrans encountered the Protoss, was when the Zerg came to infest other planets. I could presume that the Protoss "battled" with a Terran Faction before. They(Terrans) could have been a lone army. And when they battled the Protoss, none of them survived the Battle.

4.) Could be the Xel_Naga but I'd hardly call it a "Epic" battle. Because they fought them in space. And Fenix was not yet alive when they were here. So this couldn't be it....why did I post it anyway lol....


Well...this is what I think...what do you think?

[SilverCrusader]

It is probably the Terran, as it says in the stratergy guide the Terran were looking eagerly towards the resource rich planets of the enigmatic Protoss.

[Galiant]

My Guess is a Long Protoss Civil War or as SilverCrusader said, the Terrans met this Protoss Dude.

But in the Original SC. They dont even know the existence of the Protoss until Raynor came along.

Edit:

Remember the Campaign Legacy of the Confederacy? It was somehowed linked to the Starcraft History

or you can just read it here:

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_Prequel#Events_before_the_beginning_of_S tarCraft

Update:


During the Aeon of Strife, Protoss advancement slowed, and the tribes waged a massive war with each other, lasting hundreds of years. Little is known from this time, but it is known that the Protoss lost their psionic link with each other.

The Aeon of Strife was the longest, most devastating civil war to ever strike any currently known species. The most famous Tribe from this time period is the Akilae Tribe, which are to this day renowned as the Protoss' finest psionic warriors. During this time, the Protoss maintained colonies on other planets, but these too quickly became gripped with the Strife.

Later, Insidious and elusive in their tasks, the agents of the Overmind soon infested the colonial Terran worlds of Chau Sara, Mar Sara, Brontes, and Dylar IV, unnoticed by the denizens of those colonies. Yet, from out of the cold void of space, a mighty fleet of Protoss warships emerged to combat the Zerg invasionary forces. The Overmind, anxious to learn what it could about the enigmatic Protoss, decided to let them hamper the initial infestation process. Overmind tracked down Protoss to their homeland, Auir.

After Fall of Auir the remaining Protoss retreated to Shakuras to begin rebuilding their once grand civilization. Only the most powerful can gather all Protoss against Hybrid. And this war will decide who is the One.

Wow! I'm really interested in this thread!

[AzVortez]

eh, if i'm correct, i dont think the hybrids will really make much of a difference. guess it was just a buissness tatic teaser for SC2 :P

anyways, if you listned in science class, space is huge, almost unlimited, and probably millions of galaxies out there. with all those galaxies and planets, there are sure to be different civilizations with different races using different technologies. I wouldn't be surprised if one race used their urine to burn their opponents, you never know. Maybe the epic battles Fenix is referring to is probably an invading alien colony which they stopped and made extinct.

So many possibilities, yet only one answer

[Thedutchjelle]

The Aeon strife was BEFORE the Dark Templar banishment. As such, Fenix cannot possibly have been in the Aeon of Strife, as that ended atleast a few thousands of years ago.

I don't think it can be Terran either - Because of their Stewardship the Protoss were not engaging with any species what so ever, they were only burning the Terran worlds because of the zerg infestation.
But perhaps some odd Terran faction somewhere in the nowhere atacked the protoss - But in that case Protoss should be far more hostile towards terran as they are now, considering that the battle was 'epic' and they thus should have lost lots of units themself to.

[Protogod]

No. The protoss and terran had battled in the past, and protoss do have infighting. Protoss dont have some magical rule of non-intervention. They just know better than to intervene when its not necessary.

Also, the zerg had been hunting the protoss for years before sc original. Zeratul and the matriarch can say its unlike anything they faced before because they are DARK templar. They were banished to a completely separate world, and were not part of the zerg onslaught.

It was the very purpose of the zerg swarm to locate, absorb, and destroy the protoss on AUIR, which was no longer the home of the dark templar.

The "missing" enemy might not be so "missing" after all. ;)

[AzVortez]

no, the "missing" enemy is suppose to be who the Protoss have fought between the Aeon of Strife and before the burning of the Terran worlds, not who the Zerg are looking for. :(
i still agree with my above theory

[TitanWing]

It's either vs other Protoss or another race.

Most likely another insignificant race, because the Protoss would not be proud to kill each other and as far as I know, they didn't have any large scale battles against the Terrans. The Xel'Naga and Aeon of Strife were LONG before Fenix's time, 1000 years ago at least and he's "only" 400.

Dark Templar...I'm not sure about that one. It's possible, but I'm more leaning toward another extinct or at least minor race.

[Thedutchjelle]

I think we can all agree that it was indeed a minor race..

Wonder why we never heard more of it?

[Kawagata]

i'd just like to point out how geeky this discussion is. Secondly the missing enemy like Thedutchjelle pointed out, is very minor and could be ursadons.

[SilverCrusader]

zomg, the protoss poked them too much lawl.

[Protogod]

I think we can all agree that it was indeed a minor race..

Nope. If it was such a minor race, it wouldnt have been a "great war"

[TitanWing]

"Minor" as in inferior to the Protoss, but that doesn't mean they can't put up a fight. ;)

[Thedutchjelle]

Indeed.

Ok, their technology level had to be close to that of the Protoss (If they are stone-age the protoss will just walk over m), so they could not possibly be uradons >_>"

Oh and btw, that quote of Aldaris
'These zerg are unlike anything we faced before'

I think the 'we' refers to the protoss from Aiur, not the Dark Templar (Considering Aldaris isn't a DT)

[Hyperion]

You guys know about the "machine" doodad? The one on water and on land. Their enemy could have been a minor race, but a very fierce one and could have owned that machine. OR we can all conclude that what Fenix said was merely "for the show" and really meant nothing at all.

[Galiant]

Nope. If it was such a minor race, it wouldnt have been a "great war"

minor race but powerful technology

maybe that minor race relied on their Technology to Battle the Protoss and thus made it a 'fierce battle'

Or maybe it was another Faction of the Protoss Race

[ClintonM]

Maybe it was the Protoss Arch enemy the Contoss, who knows?

I personally don't think it really matters because I havn't even played the SC Campaign very far at all. Multiplayer ftw ^^.

You'll probably find out in the expansion anyway...

[TitanWing]

Lol, the "Contoss" +rep :P

[Thedutchjelle]

Wut? I didn't get it.

We must go on in the search >_>'

[TitanWing]

Pros and Cons? Don't get it?

[Galiant]

Pros and Cons? Don't get it?

Pros and Cons... Lol

[Hyperion]

Maybe it was the Protoss Arch enemy the Contoss, who knows?

I personally don't think it really matters because I havn't even played the SC Campaign very far at all. Multiplayer ftw ^^.

You'll probably find out in the expansion anyway...

Wut? I didn't get it.

We must go on in the search >_>'

Pros and Cons? Don't get it?

LOL, I actually searched it on Wikipedia....and then I found Titan's post...LOL XD....anyway I already gave my theories...

[Thedutchjelle]

Pros and Cons? Don't get it?

Ah, ok i see. I don't use those words much , please forgive me :P

[TitanWing]

Lol, English isn't your first language, so you have any excuse. :)

[Basan]

*Sigh* And me thinking that it was after Con' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict)Toss. I think too much it seems... :P

[Thedutchjelle]

Sorry for Necroing, but I think it should be noted that the 'Missing' enemy might be the Kalathi.

SC:L - The profile for the Colossus mentions the Kalath Intercession, or something along those lines. Could you explain what that was?
Metzen - Some centuries ago (after the exile of the dark templar) the Protoss of Aiur turned their energies to exploring the Koprulu sector and policing other planets. In the process, the Protoss intervened in the internal disputes of an alien race known as the Kalathi. The Protoss ended up virtually decimating the Kalathi in the process The Kalath Intercession is the Protoss' name for that entire shameful affair (including its disastrous ending for the Kalathi). It swiftly became a cautionary tale to the Protoss about the dangers of getting embroiled in the politics of a civil war. As a result of the Kalath Intercession, the Conclave placed further restrictions upon the Dae'Uhl, or "Great Stewardship". From that point on, the Protoss were never to interfere directly in the affairs of lesser races that were under Protoss protection. Thus, when Terrans arrived in the sector and began draining the natural resources from planet after planet, the Protoss were forbidden to halt the Terrans' reckless behavior.

I wonder though how these things make sense then:
Aldaris says to the matriach that the 'zerg are unlike any enemy we faced before'


(quoted from Protogod):
Also, the zerg had been hunting the protoss for years before sc original. Zeratul and the matriarch can say its unlike anything they faced before because they are DARK templar. They were banished to a completely separate world, and were not part of the zerg onslaught.



(quoted from Metzen):
How did the Khalis end up on Char? The Khalis remained with the Sargas tribe until the dark templar were banished from Aiur. Shortly afterward it was discovered that the exiles had stolen the Khalis and taken it with them. Some time after the dark templar settled on Shakuras, they (like the Protoss of Aiur) encountered the probes of the Zerg. Further investigation eventually led the dark templar to Char. The dark templar, like their kin back on Aiur, were greatly concerned about the Zerg and chose to test themselves in battle against small bands of Zerg on Char.

[neobowman]

How does what make sense? I would probably be able to answer if you elaborated.

[Protogod]

Lol jelle, because we totally knew that stuff before the lore interview. You just wanna rub it in.

[DarkMirror]

Yeah, probobly the Kalathi. Makes sense.

[vIsitor]

I am inclined to concur with jelle's conclusion. The Kalathi make the most sense.

[KomradRed]

This missing enemy brings up another plot hole. You play through the entire Protoss campaigns (Vanilla and BW) as the Executor. Considering that the position of Executor is supreme Protoss commander, your character seems to be good friends with Tassadar and Fenix, and the fact that you lead the Protoss military forces, and Raynor's Raiders in Eye of the Storm, through all the victories throughout both campaigns, you'd think the guy you play as would turn out the be one badass mofo, a hero of the same caliber as Tassadar, Zeratul, and Fenix. Yet you hear nothing about it. The Executor is never elaborated upon as a character, you hear no mention of him after the last Protoss BW mission and there is no mention of him/her as now. Now, if the Executor and Fenix had fought together against various enemy's of the Protoss across hundreds of worlds, you'd think these enemies and the Executor him/herself would be expanded upon.

Also, I cant really see the Protoss completely driving another species to extinction as a result of warfare. After their own traumatic experiences in Aeon of Strife, youd think the Protoss to be a little more understanding of just how terrible conflict can become. Also, because of the Stewardship, the Protoss would try to remain hidden from the species they were guarding, so it would either have to be a species they revealed themselves too, or a species that was advanced enough, and powerful enough, to detect the Protoss and give the Protoss such a fight that they would describe it as "Epic." I cant see it being hte Kalathi as the lore describes the Kalathi intercession as being shameful, so would the Protoss really see a screw up like that as an epic battle?

[vIsitor]

Also, I cant really see the Protoss completely driving another species to extinction as a result of warfare. After their own traumatic experiences in Aeon of Strife, you'd think the Protoss to be a little more understanding of just how terrible conflict can become. Also, because of the Stewardship, the Protoss would try to remain hidden from the species they were guarding, so it would either have to be a species they revealed themselves too, or a species that was advanced enough, and powerful enough, to detect the Protoss and give the Protoss such a fight that they would describe it as "Epic." I cant see it being the Kalathi as the lore describes the Kalathi intercession as being shameful, so would the Protoss really see a screw up like that as an epic battle?

Thats just the thing, now, isn't it? Before the Kalathi intercession, the Protoss (particularly the Templar) were more exercising the protection part of the Dae'Uhl, but after matters went south the Conclave decided that enough was enough, and forced greater emphasis on the non-interferrence part of the Stewardship so that no such catastrophe would again happen by their race's hands. It is ironic that the edict resultant from this lesson may have sealed Auir's eventual fate, as the Conclave forbade the Templar from protecting the Koprulu Terrans from the Zerg, an order which would eventually lead to Tassadar's desertion and the Zerg subsequently overrunning the sector.

As for how the Protoss sent the Kalathi to their collective mass-graves, well, remember that the Colossi are designed for war, and slaughtered the Kalathi with merciless efficiency. The Protoss either fought the Kalathi because they were advanced enough to detect the Protoss and declare war, or perhaps were embroiled in some strife of their own, which the Protoss decided to intervene against (to their error). As for the eventual fate of the Kalathi themselves, considering that things 'did not go well' for them, if they did not, in fact, go extinct, they are certainly not a major power anymore (if they ever were).

[Thedutchjelle]

Lol jelle, because we totally knew that stuff before the lore interview. You just wanna rub it in.

I'm just trying to find an answer Proto.

I mean, the Kalathi are an enemy the Protoss slaughtered, so all their 'we used to be together on the field of battle' related stuff makes sense now, except from the comment of Artanis against the DT 'These zerg are unlike anything we faced before'

KomradRed and visitor both bring up good points as well.

[DarkMirror]

No, the only thing that the Zerg comment means is that apposed to all other things the Protoss have fought, the Zerg are different.

[kirby]

its the dutch version of a socratic dialogue :)

[apostolos]

Everyone knows they fought Space Orcs.

Or an advanced race that got owned.

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

I agree with apostolos. Of course. A theory of StarCraft and WarCraft mixed together is obscured yet... maybe the Naga from WarCraft is actually the Xel'Naga. And does anyone see the resemblance of a Mur'gul and a Zergling? Didn't the Zerg used to fought the Xel"Naga and maybe infesting them at one point? Suspiciouuus... :P

[DarkMirror]

Also, a large number of the races are from other planets. Golblins used spaceships to get there.

[AzVortez]

goblins what? no they, used zepplins or whatever
besides, bullets would be the crap out of any warcraft unit. if the toss can burn a world with a couple carriers, what makes any warcraft unit resemblance to SC?
no. technology owns magic.

[masterofhobbiton]

Mur'guls don't look like zerglings. o_O

I do think that if the humans met the terran's force with Jaina Proudmore and sorcerousses at their forefront they would win easily. :D

[DarkMirror]

btw, goblins did come to the planet with spaceships. And they have nukes. You can see them underground on WoW.

[AzVortez]

psh. WoW.
anyways, just send in a couple of ghosts and boom! Jaina and her sorceresses have all been assasinated. terrific. then you send in the rines and firebats and rip everybody apart. may i remind you that the normal marine gun can shoot 300 bullets in 7 seconds? (something like that, go back and watch the cinematic trailer)
Bullets: Kill everything that isnt heavily armored
Fire : Melts everything else.

[Serban]

Only the most powerful can gather all Protoss against Hybrid.

Why does everyone hate me? :cry:

And this war will decide who is the One.

http://www.xkcd.com/117/

[LinkMaster]

i think its my turn to give my two cents about this very interesting topic that is to be about the "Missing" enemy...

If you brake down every theory mentionned here, the Kalathi is the race referred as "Missing" because they are'nt on the front line of battle... As for the Zerg quote made by Aldaris, would'nt it occure to you that he never actually met any zerg before? Or that the zerg that are on Shakuras are in a different branch of the hive clusters? Which in an overall term mean that they are smarter, more ruthless, bloodier, more insane? Who can really tell.... If you can actually make a Hydralisk talk some common words that is to be said in english and not in groans or grumbles (or whatever how else you wanna call how they communicate)....

I would tend to say that the Kalathi and Aeon of Strife wars can and cannot be claimed as "epic" battles seeing as they are wars and not battles themselves... a battle will go for about a day while a war can last centuries... which is very possible for the protoss, like a 300 years long war that Fenix participated in and that pretty much ended about 100 years ago (since Fenix is only 400 years old, aprox.)

I know i'm being obvious with the whole battle and war thing.... but think about it for a moment....

anyhow... the Conclave restriction of non-inteference with lesser races means that the protoss show themselves up to the terran in order to "push back" the zerg invasion/infestation of the humans worlds such as Tar Sara and Mar Sara... as for those colonies to be targeted by the zerg is fairly obvious, the zerg swarm came to know about the human's existance in that part of the galaxy it was infesting, so the Overmind, the being that can control and reincarnate all the cerebrates, decided that it would be wise to embend such a volatile and reckless race, trying to inherit and absorb all of, or most of, there technology and advancement in space travel... which would ultimatly give the Overmind the tech boost he needed to infest further apart worlds such as the distant Mother Earth and the hidden homeland of Aiur. Of course the Overmind manages to obtain his goal through different means, but it would've been much easier if the swarm had gotten what the terrans hone as there own, to travel freely in space...

at the end of BW, Kerrigan is the new (sort of) Overmind, controling the integrity of the swarm. As for the Dark Templars, Zeratul and his brethren, he finds nothing to be proud of... as for he had to kill his own Matriach, which can be seen as high treason among the dark templar community... but she was beginning to be infected, not by the swarm, but by Duran who's (i think that its safe to assume this fact) a hybrid of zerg and human...(most likely, i would have to say, seeing that he was with the terrans at first)

Duran, being among the human race for somewhat close to 27 years (correct me if i'm wrong, i'm just assuming is all) got the chance to learn how they work, as your the commander in the campaing your directly affecting how the gameplay turns out when he noobs you (even though its pre-determined)


i think i said all i had to say on the matter for now....

[AzVortez]

1. korpulu.. doesnt that belong to the terrans in original and bw or something? so the only way they could've gotten the colosseus design was AFTER bw.

2. So that means that they fought the Kalethi dudes AFTER bw

3. so that means your theory went out the door, unless someone proves me wrong otherwise, lol

[LinkMaster]

i dont believe it does "belong" to anyone in either Original or BW... i've been playing SC long enough to know that there is NO korpulu in the game...
i think your mistaken with SC2

As for colossus design, i would say that the UED terrans were the one to come up with its plans after BW.

On to the Kalethi... There is no other possible way that the Conclave restricts the Stewardship to come in contact with any deemed protected race...
The Kalethi War was a total Massacre, thus, more or less, forcing the Conclave to come up with such a restriction so that a similar tragedy and blood bath is to be repeated...

So there.... i defend my theory quite well myself :D

[Ktan]

"NO korpulu in the game..."

No, that would be because the game is in the Koprulu sector ;)

[AzVortez]

So there.... i defend my theory quite well myself :D

not really... lol
im VERY sure the korpulu belonged to the Confederates before the Zerg started hitting them. Then them confeds got themselves and their little 'uns blown up and massacred. Weee, go infesties!

so if the terrans lost the korpulu sector, and the protoss have only been to the korpulu sector to kill zerg infestations... then they went back for something and met the kalthel dudes.. however the hell u spell that. and they obviously didn't do that in sc:o or bw, because

1. never mentioned before sc2
2. colossues came out AFTER bw

so yeah.. :banana:

[LinkMaster]

aaaaah Koprulu.... makes muuuuuuch more sense said like that....

Thank you for pointing that out Ktan..... i did'nt know.... i only repeated his mistake XD

you actually say twice the same thing.... after BW and BEFORE SC2 means the exact same thing....

[AzVortez]

no, if i said after bw, that could also mean DURING sc2.
if i said before sc2, that could be BEFORE sc: o

see?

after bw
sc: o ----------------- sc:bw ---------------- sc2 ------------- more...

before sc2
sc: o ----------------- sc:bw ---------------- sc2 ------------- more...

[XarthatXio]

OK, we all know that Kalathi was the "missing" enemy. But what the hell is "Kalathi"? What was their origin?

I think the Terrans got some Colossuses during original SC or BW, while fighting Protoss and defeated some of these powerful warriors. That's the way Terrans got Colossus blueprints etc., I think so.

[DarkMirror]

Listen up, everyone who says that the Terrans own the Korpralu sector:

The protoss lived on the edge of it for a long, long time. Auir is their homeworld, its near the edge. They have been tending it for thousands of years. The terrans crashed in the middle of the sector. The Toss watched. Eventually, they made themselves known.

The SECTOR DOES NOT "BELONG" TO THE TERRANS.

That is all.

(PS: Why does anyone think the Terrans have collosii? Really, thats gay. They were in storage for hundreds of years.)

[XarthatXio]

Because of one of the bonus maps (I can't remember which one) the Cimmeran Pirates discovered a file about reanimating humans using Dragoon exoskeletons. It's why I think Terrans have any (or at least parts) of Dragoons.

[DarkMirror]

Yes, but the Collossii are completely different things. There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that the terrans have any. In fact, they were only just reactivated for use, so they wouldnt have even had a chance to get them.

And the file is titled "Reconstructing human limbs using Dragoon exoskeleton technology"

The "Reanimation" one was about Zerg.

[XarthatXio]

Maybe, I've just mixed some things together, I haven't playing SC for months. I've mixed up Colossi and Dragoons, and the title of the file... Very sorry, but I'm now waiting for SC2, not playing SC:BW once again...

[LinkMaster]

no, if i said after bw, that could also mean DURING sc2.
if i said before sc2, that could be BEFORE sc: o

see?

after bw
sc: o ----------------- sc:bw ---------------- sc2 ------------- more...

before sc2
sc: o ----------------- sc:bw ---------------- sc2 ------------- more...

its the same exact freaken thing idiot..... goddamn.... someone... please kill me for joining in this topic...

[AzVortez]

its the same exact freaken thing idiot..... goddamn.... someone... please kill me for joining in this topic...
apparently i graphed it and you still dont understand. you should be ashamed.

i thought the toss only atked the terran worlds because they were being infested by the Zerg. and if aiur was right next to the korpulu sector, how did the zerg not find them?

[Thedutchjelle]

apparently i graphed it and you still dont understand. you should be ashamed.

i thought the toss only atked the terran worlds because they were being infested by the Zerg. and if aiur was right next to the korpulu sector, how did the zerg not find them?

Aiur is not right next to the sector. The Protoss found the humans due to exploration, and they started to monitor them.

In fact, Aiur is not even part of the sector. It's god knows how far away.

[XarthatXio]

It can't be very far away, because Xel'Naga do not spent too many years to travel from Aiur to Zerus. It is surely out of Sector but I think it's so far as some may suggest.

[Thedutchjelle]

It can't be very far away, because Xel'Naga do not spent too many years to travel from Aiur to Zerus. It is surely out of Sector but I think it's so far as some may suggest.

..

Zerus is in the core of the galaxy. Also, these are the Xel'Naga we're talking about. We don't even know what they consider 'a long time', and we know nothing about their travel speed.
I think Aiur is pretty fucking far, considering no Terrans ever got on the surface cept for Raynor's raiders, and that the Overmind needed to create a special warp/worm hole to get there.

[XarthatXio]

considering no Terrans ever got on the surface cept for Raynor's raiders

False.
Schezar's Scavengers also got there, such as UED forces under DuGalle and Stukov, when they were chasing Raynor and Mengsk.

[LinkMaster]

But that is After the Zerg got to Aiur... thus having the terrans follow in some time after... Raynor got on Aiur with the help of Fenix and Tassadar... there could'nt be ANY possible way for him to know about the zerg being on the planet... most of the Toss campaing you spend half the time fighting Zerg, the other half fighting other Protoss... it can't be more simple as to when it comes down to it....

As for the UED, they tracked Raynor, Mengsk and other Terran forces up to the protoss sector, feeling the need to prouve something... to have full control of the entire situation... to control the zerg with the use of the psydisruptor... or whatever you call it....

[XarthatXio]

I know all this, but thedutchjelle stated that NO TERRAN (except Raynor's Raiders) ever stood his lumbering feet on Aiur. And that was false.

[Thedutchjelle]

False.
Schezar's Scavengers also got there, such as UED forces under DuGalle and Stukov, when they were chasing Raynor and Mengsk.

Aye, forgot about those. Sorry.

[DarkMirror]

I still say that Auir is on the edge of the Sector. We have no idea how big the sector is, so it very well could be and still be very far from any terran world. The Terrans crashed within the area that the toss protected, thats why they knew of them.

[XarthatXio]

Hey, if Aiur was so close, would DuGalle reach it so fast using conventional spaceships?

[DarkMirror]

What? I dont get it.

[XarthatXio]

If Aiur was so distant, so far away, UED would not arrive here so fast, using traditional spaceships. It taken only few months to chase Raynor and Mengsk from Korhal to Aiur.

[DarkMirror]

Ah, ok. I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or something.