View Full Version : SC Ghost: A disgrace to the name starcraft?
Starcraft is a realistic game about slaughter and brutality. If Blizzard want something to put cartoon images and childish themes, shouldn't Warcraft be the optimum choice? That already has the above.
Richardc269
06-17-2004, 3:31 PM
I say StarCraft:Ghost is a disgrace to the StarCraft series. I saw screenshots...it looked like a damned cartoon. It was gay as hell, the graphics fucking sucked!
Rich.
yes, the screenshots look a bit crap.
on the other hand, if they make it look and play good (realistic graphics and nice controls)
it has the potential to be, in the words of homer simpson, "groin-grabbingly transcendant"
but please blizzard, less of the cartoonyness.
LOL! At least you don't have to see pixels on your marine anymore. Its 20x better than Starcraft the original and Brood war PUT TOGETHER, you guys haven't seen a game with good graphics have you, or you are just familar with pixel graphics? please, this isn't the 70-90's guys, its 2k4....... Better graphics then Starcraft/Broodwar... come on.
BSTRhino
06-17-2004, 9:23 PM
Yeah, I think StarCraft: Ghost is great. We can't make any judgements about the storyline yet. All I know is it involves Nova Squadron and something called Terrazine Gas.
CODEZERO
06-17-2004, 9:26 PM
i dont think sc ghost is a disgrace i find the graphix quite good maybe u dont think so but i DO
Dark_Viper
06-17-2004, 10:04 PM
I like realism in my games.. and yes marines armor is bulky.. but in ghost they made it a little overkill on the size of the armor.. some of the zerg look like crap... dragoons look like they were modeled in a half an hour... and a whole lot of other shoty models im don't want to list.
other than that.. it looks good
Digfe
06-17-2004, 11:44 PM
LOL! cause you haven't seen them close up, dur! the dragoons look the same
the yellow stuff is part of their leg not like armor..... even look in a cutscene in BW or SC, you'll find a dragoon that looks exactly like it, Marines are suppose to have that big of armor for protection and to hold their huge gauss rifle (sp?) ........ come on.... ITS THE SAME EXCEPT BETTER GRAPHICS WITH A NEW STORY AND 3rd person view, with different play... You cannot compete a game thats RTS and a game that is Action/Adventure..... It just dosen't work out, you need the same category to compare, BW owns SC, for slightly better graphics, and new units, but they are the same genre so you can compare them, DON'T COMPARE DIFFERENT GENRES!
Also and thats how zerg look like, close up Do you know how it is to see those things close up? NO!
zaarock
06-18-2004, 4:21 AM
IMHO, Blizzard is expanding their players for their games, not all people like strategy games (i do), so blizzard is making a not strategy game for consoles, and this may put even more people who will buy SC 2 if it is done, and with WoW under works blizzard surely is starting to make new genre games, dont hate sc ghost, it might be useful, i think blizzard will make SC 2 like the made WC 3 wich i dont really like, but it IS inevitable.
singo
06-18-2004, 10:39 AM
nah, ive seen about two non-cartoonlike shots, if the graphics were less rounded and slightly darker it would look fantastic
Digfe
06-18-2004, 11:45 AM
Your picky, Singo.
zaarock
06-18-2004, 4:08 PM
i dont think sc ghost is a disgrace i find the graphix quite good maybe u dont think so but i DO
why are you talking like the graphics are the most important? oh well imho they aint
:D
Zaarock incase you haven't noticed about 99.999999% of your content with a game relies on graphics
Then starcraft sucks.... If it relies on its graphics....
Nahotnoj
06-18-2004, 5:17 PM
Ok, I think that starcraft ghost is not a dsigrace to the name of starcraft. If a game was only about slaughter and brutality, it woulnt have sold so well, unless it was a fighting game. Starcraft is a strategy game, and startegy games would be kind of pointless without storylines. Starcraft ghost just requires a different form of startegy, and for those of you who have played it, look at Zelda: the wind waker. Everyone thought the cel-shaded graphics would be horrible, but it turned out to be an amazing game, the cel-shaded graphics were awsome, and it did very well. To say a game will suck becasue of its graphics is just stupid.
Then starcraft sucks.... If it relies on its graphics....WOT THE HELL KINDA SC FAN R U??
Ark-templarius
06-19-2004, 8:19 AM
Zaarock incase you haven't noticed about 99.999999% of your content with a game relies on graphics
- Mechanics.
- Features.
- Fun.
- Replayability.
- Adaptability.
Without these, all the eye candy in the world won't make a game good enough. If it's all about the graphics, how can Nintendo still sell Gameboys?
Nahotnoj
06-19-2004, 9:09 AM
WOT THE HELL KINDA SC FAN R U??
he was contradicting you.. since you said that 99.99999% of a game relies on graphics, then that would make sc suck, it has 2d graphics.
Yeah but just because it is a 2d bitmap image game doesn't mean it has bad graphix. I think they r v good. Better than War3 anyway.
Maegtelluma
06-19-2004, 12:30 PM
I say StarCraft:Ghost is a disgrace to the StarCraft series. I saw screenshots...it looked like a damned cartoon. It was gay as hell, the graphics fucking sucked!
Rich.
If all you're going to do is bitch and moan about the graphics...well...you might as well find somewhere else to post. It isn't a "disgrace to starcraft". Its more realistic. You know (if you have any intelligence or common sense) that its not possible at this point to make every single freaking unit look exactly real and how it would look. They have to be more rounded so the game can handle it. If SC: Ghost was a kiddy game why would you be using a psi blade to stab a marine through the helmet?
Dorks, you're stupid. There are a lot of great games that have had pretty bad graphics of the time. An example would be Phantasy Star Online. The graphics aren't GREAT, but its still a good game because of everything that Ark mentioned.
If you don't like the "cartoony" graphics, you go ahead and make a BETTER version and then we'll tell you how we feel about it. You game?
zaarock
06-19-2004, 1:02 PM
Hehe, i just started a interesting conversation, meh anyways if u think sc has better graphics than wc3 thats just impossible, wc3 has 3d graphics so it has much more graphics of the same unit, u cant fit uber good graphics in a strategy game anyways in my opinion, sc rocks, not becouse of the goddamn graphics, but becouse of the fun, the replayability, gameplay ect ect, for examle staredit extends sc MUCH MUCH more replayability, and of course B.net even more.... eternal possibilities...
XTERMIN8OR1
06-19-2004, 2:07 PM
STARCRAFT: GHOST WILL ROXOR YOUR SOXORS! Sure; Original and BroodWar will probably still be the best, but just because they are the first one the series. In theorie, no single other StarCraft game can easily beat them. Or this other StarCraft game should be REAL good.
StarCraft Rules!
I never said it ALL relied on graphix, and wc3 graphix r even worse than wolf3d. Also, whatever idiot called me stupid can bloody well piss off and leave my thread alone. And the game is childish. It's just you.
Ark-templarius
06-20-2004, 7:45 AM
I never said it ALL relied on graphix
Yeah, only "99.999999%".
and wc3 graphix r even worse than wolf3d.
Ye gods, you're delusional.
And the game is childish. It's just you.
Blizzard made a console game. Get over it.
Nahotnoj
06-20-2004, 7:48 AM
I never said it ALL relied on graphix, and wc3 graphix r even worse than wolf3d. Also, whatever idiot called me stupid can bloody well piss off and leave my thread alone. And the game is childish. It's just you.
first of all... is it just me or do you have a quick temper dorkz?
Well you said it 99.99999% relied on graphics, which is close enough to be all.
I agree with XTERMIN8OR, the game is goping to be awsome and to say "the game is childish, its just you" isnt all that acurate seeing as how most of the people in the starcraft ghost forum are looking forward to it, otherwise they wouldnt be posting here.
TheEvilCubivore
06-20-2004, 10:08 AM
Its probably a good idea for Blizzard to do this. And who the fuck cares about graphics? We all know brood looks so realistic, im sure If a Zergling was real and it was scratching someone to death they wouldn't fucking blow up!, I mean, the marines blow up no matter what happens. C'mon, you have to be kidding me. Not to mention this game actually looks pretty good.
Dorkz
06-20-2004, 12:01 PM
Yeah, only "99.999999%".
Ye gods, you're delusional.
Blizzard made a console game. Get over it.
First, 99.999999% isn't all, even if it is a lot. Do you even know wot wolf3d is? And i couldn't care less if Ghost is a console game - I never said anything about that!
zaarock
06-20-2004, 12:50 PM
First, 99.999999% isn't all, even if it is a lot. Do you even know wot wolf3d is? And i couldn't care less if Ghost is a console game - I never said anything about that!
Ok, just one question, dont start bitching at me.
What would u think if starcraft&broodwar would have better graphics, but no more staredit nor b.net? that would be better in your opinion if graphics do matter 99.999999%?
Ark-templarius
06-20-2004, 1:05 PM
First, 99.999999% isn't all, even if it is a lot.
Which leaves 0.000001% for the aformentioned attributes of a decent game.
Do you even know wot wolf3d is?
Obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have said what I did. Seeing as how Doom and Duke Nukem proceeded to carve out a better path in the way of 3D graphics.
And i couldn't care less if Ghost is a console game - I never said anything about that!
Indirectly.
Zaarock - Depends. b.net is gr8, but I couldn't care less about staredit. I know how to use it but it takes way too long so I wouldn't be bothered. graphix - mesh models and 1024 x 860 pixels would be nice.
Whiteknight
06-20-2004, 2:55 PM
First, 99.999999% isn't all, even if it is a lot. Do you even know wot wolf3d is? And i couldn't care less if Ghost is a console game - I never said anything about that!
Which means that 1/100000000 games, or one out of every hundred million games do not rely on graphics. Just a bit off, graphics do help the game, but they are not the key factor.
Frattimonde
06-20-2004, 3:11 PM
The only thing that I´m negative about Ghost, Is
that It will only be for console. And for not PC.
At least what I´ve heard.
Otherwise It´s seems great.
Yes but you would say Doom is shit graphics wouldn't you? So lets take that as an example because its the only PC game I like better than Starcraft. It has balls graphics. We know. But, rewind time about 10 years, and it has state-of-the-art graphics, so even though it might not look it it theoretically banks on its graphics. Touchè.
Cyhawk
06-20-2004, 3:40 PM
LOL! cause you haven't seen them close up, dur! the dragoons look the same
the yellow stuff is part of their leg not like armor..... even look in a cutscene in BW or SC, you'll find a dragoon that looks exactly like it, Marines are suppose to have that big of armor for protection and to hold their huge gauss rifle (sp?) ........ come on.... ITS THE SAME EXCEPT BETTER GRAPHICS WITH A NEW STORY AND 3rd person view, with different play... You cannot compete a game thats RTS and a game that is Action/Adventure..... It just dosen't work out, you need the same category to compare, BW owns SC, for slightly better graphics, and new units, but they are the same genre so you can compare them, DON'T COMPARE DIFFERENT GENRES!
Also and thats how zerg look like, close up Do you know how it is to see those things close up? NO!
Um, Why are you bashing Starcraft's graphics? The game is freaking 7 years old! Came out 2 years after quake1! Diablo2 is 6 years old! You cannot compare Blizzard's graphics to anything because the games are extremely old now. The only game you can possibly compare to anything else right now is Warcraft 3 which is what, 2 years old now.. Still old.
Look. All in all, Blizzard's theme tends to be, Awsome freaking graphics for the day they are released. There was NOTHING better than starcraft when it was released. NOTHING better than Diablo when it was released. (Short of people using VoodoGFX cards and quake1/quakeworld.. thats different, SC/Diablo are Software Graphics ;)
Dont bash the Graphics. They WILL be the best possible quaility. Its Blizzard's Job.
and for the record, I hate console games, so yes SC: Ghost is a disgrace to the SC name ;)
Frattimonde
06-20-2004, 3:44 PM
Diablo´s actually 8 years old.
Just so you know.
CODEZERO
06-20-2004, 6:30 PM
ok if u think sc ghost is cartoony here proof that its not cartoony
http://www.neohazard.co.uk/naruto.jpg thats cartoony i dont think sc ghost looks like that not 1 dam bit
Um, Why are you bashing Starcraft's graphics? The game is freaking 7 years old! Came out 2 years after quake1! Diablo2 is 6 years old! You cannot compare Blizzard's graphics to anything because the games are extremely old now. The only game you can possibly compare to anything else right now is Warcraft 3 which is what, 2 years old now.. Still old.
Look. All in all, Blizzard's theme tends to be, Awsome freaking graphics for the day they are released. There was NOTHING better than starcraft when it was released. NOTHING better than Diablo when it was released. (Short of people using VoodoGFX cards and quake1/quakeworld.. thats different, SC/Diablo are Software Graphics ;)
Dont bash the Graphics. They WILL be the best possible quaility. Its Blizzard's Job.
and for the record, I hate console games, so yes SC: Ghost is a disgrace to the SC name ;)
1: The graphics dont really matter. Doom is better than pic-man... In my opinion.
2: I wasn't bashing, I was stating the improvements Blizzard made, also how they look, close up.
3: You are bashing me, for no reason, why be so dumb?
4: Starcraft didn't rely on graphics which equals goodness.
5: The reason you hate console games: Your to lazy to push all the buttons with 10 fingers, and having to exersice your hands more/ You spent your money on the pc/games.
Dorkz= You'd like a better detailed game of pong, then starcraft, do you?
I can fight fire with fire... Too.
Dark_Viper
06-20-2004, 9:36 PM
and i wasnt bashing the graphics either.. id just like them to be more realistic...
the graphics do look quite good...
and no Digfe.. the goons do not look the same in SC and SC:GHOST. they are much rounder and same with marines armor..
Ark-templarius
06-20-2004, 11:04 PM
Yes but you would say Doom is shit graphics wouldn't you?
At the time or compared to now?
Your picky, Singo.
yeah, i know.....but come on....great things are better than merely good ones.
so strive for perfection (if you can be bothered)
silent-killings
06-23-2004, 3:23 PM
i think star craft ghost sucks it nothing like the original and there changing the story line and the graphics are ok but choppy looking they should have took the movies and what not from the SC and SC BW and just remade them for star craft ghost:poke::blowup::alcoholicthe world of smilies as never seen before
Ark-templarius
06-24-2004, 6:31 PM
Now, ARK
People who didn't appreciate the games for their old school value would and you know it. :/
Could you rephrase that please?
Richardc269
07-03-2004, 6:25 PM
I'd like to intervene here in this little argument.
SC:Ghost as you say changed the story-line.
Companies should NEVER change the story-line. Why? Because then it would fucking suck. Why? Because your NOT supposed to change the story-line! SC:Ghost as you say changed the story-line.
Now...lets look at SC. You start out playing as the Terrans in single player. You fight with Mangsk and overrule the Confederacy. Then you play as Zerg. Zerg makes Kerrigan as a Zerg. Then you play as Protoss. You fight against the Zerg, Fenix dies and reborn a Goon. The Protoss (Fenix, Raynor and Tassadar), fight against the Conclave, then they destroy the Overmind.
Broodwar:
Protoss:
You start as the Protoss and fight the Zerg. Protoss kill Aldaris. Then they goto the Xel'Naga Temple and scour the Zerg off the planet.
Terran: You fight with Dugall (whatever you spell his name) and Duran with umm...whats his name, Alexi. Then you go and fight against Mengsk and take over Korhal.
Zerg:
You fight with Kerrigan and Duran, they bring Fenix and Raynor. They capture Mengsk and then he's on your side once again. Kerrigan then captures the Matriarch (whatever it's spelled) and then Zeratule kills the new overmind.
Now...does SC:Ghost follow this story-line? If it doesn't...then it sucks ass because it doesn't follow the story line if they changed it. Now, if this game is based on BEFORE SC was created, then thats a different story, BUT if the story-line is based on AFTER Kerrigan gained rule, then the game is lame. End of story.
Ole-The-Murder
07-06-2004, 3:29 PM
I totally agree on that one.
Kamikazie190
07-30-2004, 4:03 PM
Now...does SC:Ghost follow this story-line? If it doesn't...then it sucks ass because it doesn't follow the story line if they changed it. Now, if this game is based on BEFORE SC was created, then thats a different story, BUT if the story-line is based on AFTER Kerrigan gained rule, then the game is lame. End of story.That would make sense, Richard, and I would agree in full, if that was the case. The original storyline was supposed to be after Starcraft:Broodwars. They changed the Starcraft:Ghost storyline to match the events that already happened in the starcraft series. Its not changing the storyline of Starcraft we all know and love at all, its just changing its time frame, and thus the Starcraft: Ghost storyline had to be altered to match the current one.
Edit: whoa. I got here through a link. Did not know i was thread necroing.
IceFlare
08-03-2004, 10:55 AM
theres also something about a robotic overlord..
Cygnus
08-03-2004, 12:00 PM
Have some of you ever heard of prequels? They happen, you know, before the origional story. Like the Hobbit for LOTR or Episodes 1-3 for Star Wars. They don't alter the timeline in fact prequels usually help explain bits about the story that we don't know that much about or add to it. Maybe something story might set up SC2? Or maybe put something into a different light in the origional game or Brood War. And I'm probably just beating a dead horse, but graphics aren't everything.
Cell-Shaded graphics might not look totally up to standard, but I must say they can make very nice games. Wind Waker (as mentioned before), RoboTech, and Tales of Symphonia (awsome RPG that recently came out) all of these games have cell-shaded graphics and are very enjoyable. It gives the game a different feel, some may think of it as cartoony rather I like to say that they make the people look realisitc and that you can actually see a person's expression.
Also just because a game is console doesn't mean you should just say it's not worth it. Many console games are very well done and should be checked out. Even though many of my favorite games are on the computer I must say that many games that I have enjoyed playing are console games. Just because the graphics are different than what you're used to and because it's on a different system doesn't mean you should bash the game before it even comes out!
Topace
08-07-2004, 4:15 PM
Is SC:Ghost a disgrace to SC? All I have to say is, lets wait till it comes out to make out to make up our minds..
Ugh why the hell is everyone saying "Ghost is a disgrace to sc"? im guessing its because most want sc 2, but im not pissed that their makin ghost, i find it cool to be able to see my fav units close up in a 3D enviroment.
Keisuke-kun
08-25-2004, 8:14 AM
I like realism in my games.. and yes marines armor is bulky.. but in ghost they made it a little overkill on the size of the armor.. some of the zerg look like crap... dragoons look like they were modeled in a half an hour... and a whole lot of other shoty models im don't want to list.
other than that.. it looks good
The dragoon does look like crap but the other units look alright. I like teh original desighn from the cinematics for the dragoon. The other units look fine. except the zergling. The claws on its back are not only impractical but they are dumb too.
Geckat
08-26-2004, 9:48 PM
I thought the Terrans looked good. I haven't seen much for the Zerg except the Hydralisk which in my opinion looked AWESOME. The Dragoons always have looked stupid tho. Their legs look like crippled spiders, like those insect-wind-up toys that make too much noise for their own good. But still, I think Ghost should be alright. All I want is to see the Starcraft universe up close and personal. I couldn't care less about Nova and everything else. I just wanted to see Starcraft look awesome.
Crion
08-26-2004, 11:52 PM
i think star craft ghost sucks it nothing like the original and there changing the story line and the graphics are ok but choppy looking they should have took the movies and what not from the SC and SC BW and just remade them for star craft ghost:poke::blowup::alcoholicthe world of smilies as never seen before
Um, what? No. You're wrong. They are not "changing" anything in the story at all. Ghost takes place after Brood War. It is based off Brood War and the original StarCraft. It is in no way a revision.
And Ghost is not SCII. It is not a sequel. It is a completely separate game. Of course it's going to look different. Use your goddamn heads, people.
SSA_Ultimasheep
09-30-2004, 7:18 PM
Is SC:Ghost a disgrace to SC? All I have to say is, lets wait till it comes out to make out to make up our minds..
This is probably the first good idea i've seen in this entire thread. anyway i don't think it is a disgrace as i have no idea what the gameplay, graphics, and storyline will be like.
Demosthene5
09-30-2004, 9:14 PM
Is SC:Ghost a disgrace to SC? All I have to say is, lets wait till it comes out to make out to make up our minds..
I agree. Hopefully it isn't some useless genre-branch like that C&C atrocity Renegade. ugh. Im just hoping for an inventive adventure in the grungy future universe of sc that I love so much. And fun too. After all that is the point right?
personal note: I like the original ghosts better than this nova skank. Shes hot, but... she probably wont say "somebody call for an exterminator?" the same way.... *sniff* or say it at all! *sob* oh life is pain and misery!
Ugh why the hell is everyone saying "Ghost is a disgrace to sc"? im guessing its because most want sc 2
well I heard from a guy that heard this from some little birds somewhere in the amazon...
actually I just made this up, but it is feasable. Bear with me:
I think that blizzard is making scGhost just as an excuse to start production of sc2 without the publicity. Think of it... detailed character models just for a puny little 3rd person shooter? Im not saying that they have some game engine down next to the spaceships in area 51, but they could be using ghost as a test run for the sc2 3-d starcraft experience... Also making more sc style music and graphics and ambient sounds & whatnot could be more practice or fine tuning of the sc universe before they start programming sc2...
Sound pretty nuts? Well this is coming from a person that wakes up wondering if sc2 is in stores yet... like, if it were being secretly made without anyone knowing... ha geez i want sc2.
actually I want sc2 so bad, every time I say "sc2" I cream my pants. anyone gotta towel?
Spartan-II
09-30-2004, 10:21 PM
You should get that checked O_O
My long silence is broken!
I don't suppose anyone here apart from me actually still thinks Ghost is Crap? I dunno, haven't been here a while.
Hey Dark Viper Is A Domm Addict Like Me!!!! Woohooo!!!!!!
*doom
BSTRhino
10-12-2004, 4:09 PM
Actually, I have just been writing an article on Ghost, and one thing I said was that, the name 'StarCraft' in 'StarCraft: Ghost' has been a total hindrace to people liking the game. I often feel that if Ghost had nothing to do with StarCraft, people would actually see what it was -- a unique game with a lot of potential.
Yes, the graphics are stylised, but no more stylised than the movies in StarCraft.
StarCraft: Ghost is designed to put you in the world of StarCraft, so its designed to have a world-like feeling.
There's a lot of voice acting in the game, you'll often run into enemies who mid-conversation.
When you kill dead bodies they remain on the ground unless you move them, usually to cover your tracks, whereas in most games the bodies just disappear.
Characters are simulated using the Havok physics engine to give them realistic ragdoll effects.
A lot of work has gone into the artificial intelligence, you can see the arising suspicions of guards, watch zerglings run for cover, some hydralisks shoot into empty space trying shoot something they can't see.
Plus, Nova can run, walk, jump, climb, crawl, sidle, dangle snipe and everything in-between.
And how many games do you know have got cloaking, speed (the ability where time effectively slows down for the world outside by a factor of 2), sight, dangle sniping, lockdown grenades, EMP grenades, remotely controlled spider mines, open-ended gameplay and let you interact with an entire army behind you through Comsat Sweeps, Siege Tank barrages, and Nuclear Strikes, all in the same game?
Spartan-II
10-12-2004, 7:12 PM
None.
Calibur
10-12-2004, 9:43 PM
I say StarCraft:Ghost is a disgrace to the StarCraft series. I saw screenshots...it looked like a damned cartoon. It was gay as hell, the graphics fucking sucked!
Rich.
Hmm. you present a reasonable point but maybe this is why the game is still under development. Personaly I feel that blizzard will use Starcraft:Ghost to present a vital part of the Starcraft storyline, although I still think it should be for computer and not console.
Kamikazie190
10-12-2004, 9:59 PM
BST Said, and it was done. The arguement was owned. I don't think ghost sucks, and if you still think it has shitty graphics, you need to wake up a bit. Maybe you can argue that WC3 graphics were 'too cartoony' for your liking, at least it didn't entail having 4 pixeled sprites running around shooting gauss rifles. Blizzard, no matter how hard they try, is NOT going to get perfectly lifelike models for every single thing. Its simply not possible. Disgrace to starcraft? No, unless all you played starcraft for was seeing who could click 'BB MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM BS BS BS BBMMMMMMM' faster, then sending mass marines to their deaths. Starcraft is a tactical strategy game, masses can be owned by single units. Think about how tactical your going to have to get when all you have is a single ghost.
gershanecktj
11-06-2004, 8:20 PM
This thread is such a waste of time. You already know the majority would say no instead of yes.
117...out
Garrec
11-06-2004, 8:55 PM
I don't see why so many people judge graphics. I admit that I do sometimes, but I try not to. Though good graphics definitely make a game look more impressive. StarCraft's 2D graphics look pretty damn good. Awesome, in fact. Most buildings and units are very well done. Sure, some sprites are a bit pixelated, but 3D has the same symptoms. 3D games now are usually higher resolution, and objects seen from an extreme distance still don't look much better than 2D sprites used in 2D games. Another thing with 3D games is that sometimes on sharp edges you can still see the individual rows of pixels, and if there is movement on the screen, it becomes even more visible. I've seen the 3D models for Ghost, and I gotta say that I think the zerg and protoss were generally very poorly done. They looked so foreign, bulky, disproportionate from what they looked like in StarCraft. The zealot and hydralisk look so bloated. Open up the original StarCraft, go to the campaign select screen, and you will see, in all of it's 2D glory, images of a hydralisk and zealot that are FAR better than their 3D models.
But of course, 3D games require 3D models, and 2D just won't cut it here.
Majuub
11-21-2004, 8:05 AM
Common now, Now starcraft ghosts it might end the regular starcraft world, and the graphichs are bad dude, first of all the hydralisk is like 25 times the ghost.
hell diff from game, z lings are like big Bull dogs,, that look retarded,
and, well i only saw a few so yay, and its 1st Person, Make me anther Starcraft world game...
but i guess it will be ok... if they continue The Starcraft universe.
and some peps like 1st person so... i guess ok..
but common the Hydra is Like 20 times the Ghost man, its like a Giant,
thats the worst thing i say i saw, and since the Hyrda is taht big, Shouldnt the ultralisk BE huGE... see thats what i mean.... those things...
like if you wacthed the intro in Sc, u see them killin the D* Zerg, but yet
The hydralisk aint So huge and the zerglings arent so ugly.
RuneWalsh
11-26-2004, 12:00 AM
There are several problems with what you said. Granted the hydras shouldn't be that big, but they do look good. The best point of this game is seeing all of your favorite units in close up, detailed glory. The graphics are pretty good, not Meteroid Prime good, but still good.And besides, the pics look pretty good, and depending on the range, which may be close by looking at the background, they are about the right size. About the graphics, the game has not been released yet, so there might be some refinement.And, they Ultra IS HUGE. Look at the comparison of between the ghost(who looks a lot like Rikku from FFX for some reason). Wait until the game comes out to bash it. On one final note, it will not bring down a game with over 7 million users.
P.S:Learn how to type
ChunkyMunky
11-26-2004, 3:42 AM
Pardon for asking, but what is the point of this thread? The only complaints I've heard are "The graphics suck" and "It's on a console, so it sucks." Perhaps Blizz wasn't satisfied with them, so they pushed the game back? But that probably makes too much sense for the whiners on this thread. Also, Blizzard started out making console games, with Ghost, they're returning to their roots in a sense. In other words, if it weren't for Blizzard's first console games, there very well may not be a StarCraft to begin with. But here's the crux of the matter. Ready? Ghost isn't coming out for a few more months. Let's at least wait till our fave mags/webbies have reviewable copies before we bash it, like the Fable-haters did.
The only thing that bugs me about Ghost is that its Console only (ok not really bugging me, but they didnt make SC fans from Consoles, look what happened with Starcraft 64)
The real thing that bothers me is that Ghost seems like one of those standard (it seems) nowadays First or 3rd person view/shoot em up with a few puzzles, or 'stealth get throughs' or 'whatever else' added in to give it 'depth'
The only reason people will buy Ghost is the fact that its Starcraft. That is mainly the only reason. Other then that, many people could care less. And many others will just wait until a Transcript is put up and read that and be done with it.
Starcraft is Strategy, Not single-character fighting. The fact alone that Ghost centers on Nova makes it different then Starcraft. Since even the 'heros' of Starcraft werent all powerful, and could not get all powerful (ala War3)
But oh well.
Oh on a final note: Those of you even commenting on the FUCKING Graphics need to back off. We don't care if you look at a game and thing 'oh graphics are good games good' or 'graphics are spritey, it must suck!'
Graphics don't make a great game. Great Graphics make a good game... But then whens the last time you heard someone say Chrono Trigger or FF6 -- or another old 16bit or 8bit game was bad just becuase of the graphics? There are still people pushing the original Zelda.
Though I would never say no to a 3d-Modeled FF6. That would kick so much fucking ass.
-Neo
SnouroW
12-22-2004, 2:45 AM
sc:bw will own all your asses forever.. even if blizzard would run around naked and lick eachothers butts..
-SnouroW
Frattimonde
12-22-2004, 4:39 AM
sc:bw will own all your asses forever.. even if blizzard would run around naked and lick eachothers butts..
-SnouroW That's really just so immature to say, spammer!
ig0tfish
01-08-2005, 4:39 PM
hella naw the graphics are pretty much sorta like halo...i think its NOT a disgrace
Kazansky
01-16-2005, 2:35 AM
They should have made a choice between a male ghost and Nova. I don't like playing with female characters.
yah, what he said (i cant remember how to spell kaznaskery)
i like the ability to choose between my charachters
the_invisible
03-08-2005, 9:41 PM
Well i dont care about the character i care about the gameplay and that crap + ive seen great screenshots on www.blizzard.com
I AM GETTING IT.
Fred1000000
03-09-2005, 11:23 AM
Starcraft: Ghost pwns all other Blizzard games! I mean, Novas h0t, the other units look cool, who couldn't love a marine with more armor then a Battlecruiser???
ZeroCross
03-12-2005, 11:11 AM
SC ghost a disgrace? WTF? Are you drunk or soemthing?! SC ghost looks like it would be a well deserved pick-up to the series, and looks very good. I can't wait to get it. (of course, I am still in lack of system-age to play it >,<)
SC: Ghost is going to be a big release, for those fans of Starcraft, but not the bitchy/critical people. Who, if they're in control, would make x1,000 shittier models, only pros/veterans can make such good stuff like that, if not, worse. I don't see you busting your ass off trying to make better models then them, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T! You don't know how hard it is to make it, I've been trying to make a model for wc3 for over 3 months now, it is hard as hell! So if you have a fucking better model, submit it to blizzard, and see them piss on it, because of it's look, just like you are now, upsetting them. For people who have been working a lot for this game, and half the sc fans bash the shit out of the graphics is really bad, hell why didn't they just make a 3ps with the same graphics? You'd complain so much that it would be unbearable to read, but when they release these, saying it was a trick you'd be like OH sweet. So stfu about the graphics.
DragonPaladin
03-30-2005, 5:32 PM
There are lots of games pr movies with sweet graphics but no one plays them or likes them. Why? Cause it's not fun! There is not storyline! There is not FRIGGIN plot! The controls are whack! The characters are stupid.
Can anyone name some of those games or movies?
I guess you could include the last two Matrix movies. Some of it was good, but the plot just ended weird for me. But the graphics and figtening scenes were good.
Jaguar_King
04-01-2005, 4:06 PM
They should have made a choice between a male ghost and Nova. I don't like playing with female characters.
Agreed.
Mystikal
04-01-2005, 10:48 PM
I'm not judging it until I play it. Those screenshots were alpha at best, so that cannot possibly give a clear idea of what the game will look like.
DragonPaladin
04-02-2005, 12:04 PM
Take a peek at the alpha version of Starcraft...Ugh...Kinda fuzzy.
DeltaForce
04-02-2005, 12:59 PM
yes, but that's alpha, the very, very first version. what could you expect? get real, no alpha version will end up even close to the finished product unless the developers are lazy and juss say alpha is the finished
I've never seen the game screen shots can someone provide links so I can see them please?
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