Modred's Diplomacy Invitational

[Modred]

Game: Modred's Diplomacy Invitational
Map: Loeb9
Rules: DIAS, Coastal_Convoy, No_Retreat, Weak_Bounce
Start Date: June 12, 2004
End Date: --

Game Info:
Yes, after over a month and half of behind the scenes preparation, the first Invitational to grace WarBoards has finally come around to starting. The rules are a bit kooky, and the map a bit different, but I'm hoping for a good game from all. I would say a clean game...but some of the rules simply prevent that from being possible.

For those not in the game, I will explain the rules briefly.
DIAS (Draw Includes All Survivors) - If a game is to end in a draw, the vote must be unanimous.
Coastal_Convoy - Fleets on a coastal province may convoy an army to any adjacent coastal province (but not a landlocked province).
No_Retreat - There is no retreat phase, dislodged units are automatically disbanded.
Weak_Bounce - A unit that attempts an attack and fails has used its available power and thus has no defense to protect itself from a nother direction, allowing it to be dislodged by an unsupported attack. Example:

Russian A Sev-Rum (failed, dislodged)
Turkish F Bla-Sev
Turkish A Rum H

This occurs because A Rum held, thus allowing it to defend any attack. However, A Sev spent its strength in its attack and was easily defeated by the attacking F Bla. In combination with No_Retreat, carefully planned attacks such as this can devestate an enemy in the fall.

Players: Game is Full!!

OboeGuru
BlackHawk
Orodreth
WhiteKnight
Subjukator
TheGreatBrain
Nivek
Maegtelluma
Modred


Nation Assignments:

England: Nivek
France: Maegtelluma
Spain: BlackHawk
Norway: WhiteKnight
Germany: OboeGuru
Italy: Modred
Austria: Subjukator
Russia: TheGreatBrain
Turkey: Orodreth


Map:
http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/loeb9.txt

[Whiteknight]

Well, this certainly is going to be a doozy of a game.

I'm just wondering what happened to the other players. I mean, I know Cygnus left, but Shinigami is back. Hmm... oh well. This is going to be a steep learning curve with these rules. :)

BTW, what is wrong with the purple colour there? It has a lot of lines in it, same with some parts of Russia.

Wow, I just looked at the map, too. This is going to be one aggressive map, there are almost no open SCs.

[Maegtelluma]

I'll take the spot.

Yeah, Loeb9 doesn't have a lot of open Sc's. Most of them are only really accessible by Russia/Austria/Turkey, maybe Italy. Should be interesting.

[Modred]

Alright Maegtelluma, you are in. I think you have well grounded enough in the normal rules to try this out.

PMs have been sent to participants (except you maeg, since you just joined and know that it is starting).

Orders due by 10 PM EST on Monday June 14, 2004.

[Maegtelluma]

A'ight, thanks Modred.

[Whiteknight]

Oi, I've been planning orders and have just begun to see the intricacies of these rules. Hmm.

A few questions:

1. Are we allowed to move into the Arctic Ocean?
2. If we are, can fleets move there or armies? Or fleets in spring and armies in winter?
3. Are you going to fix up my colour?

[Modred]

Greetings fellow Diplomats and welcome to the European Summit at Rome.

I have invited you all here today for the purpose of discussion of treaties and military tactics, and hope that I shall be of close comradeship with all of you. As of now, I have extended offers of peace through non-agression pacts to the nations of France, Germany, and Austria. In the event that war should be declared by any of these, I currently must resign myself to neutrality, however circumstances may change later in the game and I would be proud to serve with any nation against a common foe.

May your victories be swift and death rain upon your opponents.

-Modred
Italian Premier and Host of the European Summit at Rome

Oi, I've been planning orders and have just begun to see the intricacies of these rules. Hmm.

A few questions:

1. Are we allowed to move into the Arctic Ocean?
2. If we are, can fleets move there or armies? Or fleets in spring and armies in winter?
3. Are you going to fix up my colour?

Sorry for double post if no one posted since my last post.

Fleets may move into the Arctic Ocean during the spring, however the ocean freezes in the fall. Thus the fleet may only move out the next spring. Armies cannot move into the arctic ocean.

Are you referring to the light blue lines inside both Norway and Russia? Those are simply little waterways and lakes and such. If you are referring to other lines, then check your display settings.

[Subjukator]

Turkey: Orodreth
England: Nivek

^^ These two players may or may not be showing up any time soon. So if two more volunteers show themselves, just post in here and I'm sure Modred will message you if an opening becomes available.

Figures... I get Austria yet again :rolleyes:

[Modred]

Turkey: Orodreth
England: Nivek

^^ These two players may or may not be showing up any time soon. So if two more volunteers show themselves, just post in here and I'm sure Modred will message you if an opening becomes available.

I have PM confirmation of acceptance of invitation from both of them. However, if they have not responded by the deadline, I will replace them.

[BlackHawk]

Hola, y día bueno my fellow leaders. I am glad to be here at the European summit with you all, and I thank Modred, the host, for the invitation. The Spanish people would like to extend alliances to the great countries of Italy, Britain, and Norway. We would also like to extend an NAP agreement to the French.

I hope the other countries will take no offence to be left out of my speech, but frankly you are to far east for me to really say anything to you except good luck. I would like to wish all the countries a prosperous future.

~ BH, Spaniard King.

[Subjukator]

OK, I didn't know. I just don't see them on ever/post.

The Austrian delegation would like to speak with German and Russian delegates on an alliance proposal with the Austrian Kingdom.

NAP accepted Italian Premier Modred. If we could agree for the Italian army in Ven to move to Pie, the Austrian fleet in Tri shall move to Alb.

[Modred]

The Italian government accepts the terms proposed by the Austrian Emperor. The Army Venice will move away from Trieste as soon as possible.

[Whiteknight]

Thank you for allowing Norway to this summit. The government of Norway has expressed interests in several countries and will prefer to take them aside in private.

[Maegtelluma]

The French will perform their communications out of the public eye.

[Subjukator]

Orders PMed

[Modred]

Orders PMed

Heh, around 3 hours ago. Yes, I was online and watched them come in. No, I haven't looked at them. I'm still an honest GM.

[OboeGuru]

The French will perform their communications out of the public eye.
Snooty French. ;)

PMage of Orderage for the Armies of Hilter.

Yes, I said Hilter . :)

[Modred]

Hehe...Hilter...

The dislexic Kaiser OboeGuru....

[Nivek]

Well, this is certainly interesting.

England accepts the Spanish alliance offer, and offers a NAP to Germany.

[OboeGuru]

Germany accepts English NAP.

[Maegtelluma]

Hitler working with England? Hogwash.

Orders are in

[OboeGuru]

Hitler working with England? Hogwash.
That's right. Hilter is working with England. ;) Sorta.

My orders do not change with the new NAP, by the way.

[Whiteknight]

ACK!

Sorry, doing stuff and all. Err... order very quickly in.

Orders PMed. Sorry for the delay, I was doing things for a while until now, otherwise it would have been in.

Also, if anyone in here has MSN, please add me. It would make discussing this much easier.

evan_s_@hotmail.com

[Modred]

Alright, I just need orders from Nivek and TheGreatBrain.

I gave Nivek and Orodreth an extra day (since they apparently hadn't checked their PMs) and will extend this to Brain as well. If either Nivek or Brain is still late tomorrow, one or both will be replaced. Nivek has been alerted to get his orders in, but Brain has not been online, so I don't know if he is even aware of the game starting. Nevertheless, if he does not get online, I cannot inform him, and he will be replaced.

[TheGreatBrain]

Sorry, sorry! *Puts on big Sabel hat

Russia offers an alliance to Germany.

Russian Orders:

F StP-Barents Sea
A Mos-StP
F Sev-Rum
A War Hold

[Modred]

Alrighty...I shouldn't have told Nivek I'd give him an extra day...now he's the only one late.

Shall PM him now...but he has a busy work schedule, so it will probably be tomorrow night.

[Subjukator]

Would Russia like to ally Austria? Or was your post an understood no?

[Modred]

Spring 1901
Date Processed: 6/15/04
Summary: One of the most agressive opening turns I've ever seen!!

England: Nivek
A Lvp - Wal
F Lon - Nth
F Edi - NWG

France: Maegtelluma
A Marseilles - Pied
A Paris - Bur
F Brest - English Channel

Spain: BlackHawk
F Por - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Madrid - Navarre
A Cordoba H

Norway: WhiteKnight
A Norway - STP
F Swe - Gulf of Bothnia
F Den - Kiel

Germany: OboeGuru
A Berlin -> Prussia
A Munich -> Bohemia
F Kiel -> Denmark

Italy: Modred
A Ven-Tyr
A Rom-Ven
F Nap-Ion

Austria: Subjukator
A Budapest-Serbia
A Vie-Budapest
F Trieste-Alb

Russia: TheGreatBrain
F StP-Barents Sea
A Mos-StP
F Sev-Rum
A War Hold

Turkey: Orodreth
A CON - BUL
A SMY - ARM
F ANK - BLA

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/s1901.txt

Orders due 10 PM EST, Friday June 25, 2004.

Sorry its so late, but I'll be gone until then. Map on Saturday morning if all orders are in.

[Sperate]

Wow. This is like..wow. Everyone is at everyone else's throat..

[Maegtelluma]

Wow. This is the first great start i've had in some time.

June 25th? Y'all had better not NMR. Thats a helluva lot of time.

[Nivek]

Wow. This is like..wow. Everyone is at everyone else's throat..
Not surprising, especially since there's one country *cough*Austria*cough* that is in a horrible position to start out with, and there are others who don't have much room to work with. Sitting on your hands early on is just asking for death.

[Modred]

I count 5 people moving on foreign territory and 3 people making potentially hostile movements either in their own country or in neutral territories.

Talk about tension!!

[Maegtelluma]

I'll say. Just about everyone could lose several SC's next turn, or take them away, lol

[BlackHawk]

I have to say, great choice of map Modred, it's great 'cause it just throws you into the action right away and makes the diplomatic part of Diplomacy more pronounced then usual. :tup:

[OboeGuru]

Renaissance-Variant Standard Diplo is very much the same way, too. I'll eventually start a game of that.

[Maegtelluma]

Yeah. More games = good. Just no reruns of the "BF tragedy" i've heard oh-so-much about....

[Modred]

Ok folks, update on the deadline situation. As you can see, the deadline is next Friday, the 25th, as I will be gone until then. However, I have discovered that I should be back at approximately 5 PM CST, so don't expect to get off easy if your orders aren't in!! ;)

[Sperate]

Map..gone..losing..consiousness..

[BlackHawk]

Map..gone..losing..consiousness..

Using my l337 haxxing skills the map is back up :).

[TheGreatBrain]

Russian Orders:

F Barents Sea-Norwegian Sea
A Mos-Sev
F Rum Support A Mos-Sev
A War-Gal

[Maegtelluma]

French orders PM-ed

[Modred]

Alright folks, I'm back, and the deadline still stands.

Unless I am mistaken, I need orders from OboeGuru, WhiteKnight, and BlackHawk. Get your orders in people.

And what's this about the map going down and l33t h4XXing?

[Whiteknight]

What? I already sent them... Alrighty, sending them again.

WB, too! :)

[Modred]

Well, WK, if you had already sent them, they got lost in the mail. But I have them now, so all is well.

[BlackHawk]

Orders PM'ed.

[TheGreatBrain]

Renaissance-Variant Standard Diplo is very much the same way, too. I'll eventually start a game of that.Yeah. I know from experience that that one is great fun. I almost won. :)

[OboeGuru]

Yeah. I know from experience that that one is great fun. I almost won. :)
If you're ever around the Diplo forum at BF again, join my Renaissance game there! :)

[Modred]

Ok folks, Orodreth pulled a fast one on me, and I do not have all orders as I had thought.

So, Orodreth, you have until the deadline.

[Modred]

Fall 1901
Date Processed: 6/25/04
Summary:

England: Nivek
F Nwg - Nor
F Nth S F Nwg - Nor
A Wal - Lon

France: Maegtelluma
A Bur - Bel
A Pie - Marseilles
F English Channel - London

Spain: BlackHawk
A Cordoba - Brest
F Mid Atlantic Ocean C A Cordoba - Brest
A Nav - Gas

Norway: WhiteKnight
F Gob - Stp SC
A Norway Support F Gob - Stp SC DISLODGED
A Den H

Germany: OboeGuru
F Kiel -> Denmark
A Bohemia -> Silesia
A Prussia -> Warsaw

Italy: Modred
A Tyr S a Ven-Pie
A Ven-Pie
F Ion-Tun

Austria: Subjukator
F Alb-Greece
A Serbia S F Alb-Greece
A Budapest-Vie

Russia: TheGreatBrain
F Barents Sea-Norwegian Sea
A Mos-Sev
F Rum Support A Mos-Sev
A War-Gal

Turkey: Orodreth
A ARM - SEV
F BLA S A ARM - SEV
A BUL S A BUD - RUM

Adjustments:
England: 3 Units, 4 Supply, 1 Build
France: 3 Units, 3 Supply, No Change
Spain: 3 Units, 4 Supply, 1 Build
Norway: 2 Units, 3 Supply, 1 Build
Germany: 3 Units, 5 Supply, 2 Builds
Italy: 3 Units, 4 Supply, 1 Build
Austria: 3 Units, 5 Supply, 2 Builds
Russia: 4 Units, 3 Supply, 1 Removal
Turkey: 3 Units, 4 Supply, 1 Build

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/f1901.txt

As a note, the next turn will be Winter Adjustments 1901. The only orders you should submit are Builds/Removals.

Also, BH has informed me that he will be away until July 7, so if he does not get orders in, I will wait for him (since he did inform me ahead of time).

Orders preferred by June 28, 2004.

[OboeGuru]

Hilter commands that: A Berlin and A Munich be formed

[TheGreatBrain]

A poor showing indeed.

I will disband [F Norwegian Sea]

[Maegtelluma]

I am never making a NAP again....:mad:

[Whiteknight]

The Norweigan leader believes that he shall build a fleet in Sweden

[Subjukator]

Yea, I'm going to need that due date to be later, like next weekend.

[Modred]

Sub, its just your builds. No negotiation is required. Get them in. BH's are in and he did inform me of a pending absence prior to my asking for orders.

En addendum: I have reviewed your circumstances, and would still prefer that you get those orders in by tomorrow. As you said, you can use the library. I will be generous with my time, and will be waiting on BH (and apparently you as well) for around a week. I would prefer however, to be waiting on Orders, and not Builds.

Also, you don't need a new comp just because a cooling fan broke. They aren't that expensive. Find a store that sells computer parts...there should be several in your area and most will install any hardware that you buy. Although, if you need a new computer anyway, don't let me stop you. :p

[Maegtelluma]

French orders are in.

[BlackHawk]

Modred, just wanted to tell you that I no longer need the extension, my mom has broken her arm (a day before we left on the trip) so we aren't going. So uh...yea I'm good. Thanks for waiting though.

[Modred]

Ok Sub, we are now waiting on you...and everyone else to submit their orders.

The deadline is still a day away, so I won't start yelling yet.

[Sperate]

You got mine, righty-o?

[Modred]

Um..not yet. I'll check again in the morning...

[Whiteknight]

Uhh... I posted my build in the thread. You just wanted builds and retreats, right?

[Modred]

Builds and removals...there are no retreats. So for everyone who is building, I need builds. For Brain, I get a disband. For those who broke even, I get nothing (except you WK, since you lost a unit and broke even).

At the moment I believe I only need Orodreth and Sub.

Correction: Orodreth builds A Con

I need orders from Nivek and Sub.

[Modred]

For those who didn't catch on the first three times I said it *cough*Maeg and Sub*cough*
This was a build/disband ONLY phase.
I will hold on to the orders you sent me, but for the future, please read the directions.

Winter 1901
Date Processed: 6/30/04

England: Nivek
F Edi

France: Maegtelluma
No Changes

Spain: BlackHawk
A Mad

Norway: WhiteKnight
F Swe

Germany: OboeGuru
A Ber
A Mun

Italy: Modred
F Ven

Austria: Subjukator
A Bud
A Tri

Russia: TheGreatBrain
Disband F Nwg

Turkey: Orodreth
A Con

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/w1901.txt

Spring 1902 due Saturday, July 3, 2004

Please notify ahead of time if you need a deadline change (or get your orders in before you go on vacation :p).

[OboeGuru]

I get a cookie for having orders in already!
http://images.oboeguru.net/cookie.gif

[Modred]

I have Maegtelluma, Subjukator, and OboeGuru. Not bad. Only need five more sets of orders and we're good.

[BlackHawk]

Orders PM'ed.

[Modred]

Woo, the orders are flowing in.

[Modred]

Let's see, I have Sub, Maeg, Nivek, BH, and Oboe (and myself of course).

So I still need Orodreth, TheGreatBrain and Whitekight. PMs will be sent shortly.

EDIT: It is currently 45 minutes after the deadline. I got orders from Orodreth right after I posted this. Brain and WK need to get their orders in as they did not tell me they needed a deadline change!

[Whiteknight]

BAH! I WAS IN THE CITY, WATCHING A MOVIE! IT WAS SPONTANEOUS! I thought I'd be here.

Ah well, getting them in, thanks for waiting. :p

A Stp S F Swe - Nor
F Swe - Nor
F Den H

[TheGreatBrain]

Sorry, sorry. I got wisked away for the weekend. :)

Russian Orders:

F Rum Hold
A Gal Support F Rum Hold
A Mos-Sev

[Modred]

Spring 1902
Date Processed: 07/04/04
Summary: Happy 4th of July!
Italy hunkers into a semi-defensive position.
Austria fails in attack against Turkey, while Turkey successfully invades Russia.
France is further devoured by España.
Germany tries to take Denmark...for the third time in a row!

England: Nivek
F Nth - Ska
F Nor S F Nth - Ska
F Edi - Nth
A Wal - Lon

France: Maegtelluma
A Marseilles - Gascony
F English Channel - Brest
A Bel - Burgundy

Spain: BlackHawk
A Gas - Paris
A Madrid - Cat
F MAO S A Brest H
A Brest H

Norway: WhiteKnight
A Stp(SC) S F Swe - Nor
F Swe - Nor
F Den H

Germany: OboeGuru
F Kiel -> Denmark
A Berlin -> Prussia
A Warsaw Hold
A Silesia -> Galicia
A Munich -> Bohemia

Italy: Modred
F Ven-Adr
A Tyr-Ven
A Pis S A Tyr-Ven
F Tun-Ion

Austria: Subjukator
A Budapest-Galicia
A Trieste-Serbia
F Greece S A Serbia-Bulgaria
A Serbia-Bulgaria
A Vie S A Budapest-Galicia

Russia: TheGreatBrain
F Rum Hold
A Gal Support F Rum Hold DISLODGED
A Mos-Sev

Turkey: Orodreth
A BUL H
A CON S A BUL
F BLA S A ARM - SEV
A ARM - SEV

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/s1902.txt

Oh yeah:

Orders due by 10 PM EST on Tuesday, July 6th, 2004.

[Modred]

Alright, I had planned for the deadline to be tonight.

And I have NO orders.

[OboeGuru]

What, no adjustment phase?

[Modred]

What, no adjustment phase?

Grr....read carefully Oboe. That was a Spring turn. There are no adjustments after a Spring turn. And since we are using no_retreat, there is no retreat phase.

The orders due are Fall 1902.

[OboeGuru]

D'oh. This is what 4 hours of sleep does to me...

Orders PM-ified.

[TheBB]

Wth?? We do adjustment phases here? Finally...

[Subjukator]

If an army fails in its attack even thought it was supported, does that mean A Serbia has expended its strength?

[Modred]

Wth?? We do adjustment phases here? Finally...

Well, not everyone is yet...but I know at least one other person is...can't remember if it is Oboe or BlackHawk...but somebody else is! And I will be doing it in all of my future games.

If an army fails in its attack even thought it was supported, does that mean A Serbia has expended its strength?

Yes. The support was to Bulgaria, so if a foreign unit (other than Bulgaria) had attacked Serbia, it would have been overcome. However, since it was not attacked, it is still in play and may be used.

[TheGreatBrain]

Russian Orders:

F Rum-Sev
A Mos Support A Rum-Sev

[BlackHawk]

Well, not everyone is yet...but I know at least one other person is...can't remember if it is Oboe or BlackHawk...but somebody else is! And I will be doing it in all of my future games.

'Tis both of us :D.

Btw, Orders PM'ed.

[Modred]

And I noticed that SunTzu is doing an adjustments phase also.

[Whiteknight]

I am going to when needed.

[Maegtelluma]

Orders in, sorry for the delay

[Modred]

I have orders from everyone save Nivek.

EDIT: I have all orders now, will make the map later.

[Modred]

Fall 1902
Date Processed: 7/8/04
Summary: Norway and France each down to one SC.
Germany takes an early lead in size, albeit a small one.
Both Austria and Italy stagnate, while Spain and Germany grow

rapidly.

England: Nivek
F Nth S German F Kie - Den
F Ska - Swe
F Nor S F Ska - Swe
A Lon H

France: Maegtelluma
A Bur - Paris
A Gas - Cat
F English Channel - Irish Sea

Spain: BlackHawk
A Cat - Marseilles
A Brest S A Paris H
A Paris S A Brest H
F MAO S A Brest H

Norway: WhiteKnight
F StP - Gob
F Swe - Norway DISLODGED
F Den H DISLODGED

Germany: OboeGuru
F Kiel -> Denmark
A Prussia HOLD
A Warsaw S A Bohemia -> Galicia
A Silesia S A Bohemia -> Galicia
A Bohemia -> Galicia

Italy: Modred
A Ven-Tri
F Adr S A Ven-Tri
A Pie S Spanish A Cat-Mar
F Ion-Gre

Austria: Subjukator
F Greece Hold
A Serbia-Alb
A Trieste Hold
A Galicia-Budapest
A Vie S A Trieste

Russia: TheGreatBrain
F Rum-Sev
A Mos Support A Rum-Sev

Turkey: Orodreth
A SEV H
F BLA S SEV H
A BUL H
A CON S A BUL H

Adjustments:
England: 4 Units, 5 Supply, 1 Build
France: 3 Units, 1 Supply, 2 Removals
Spain: 4 Units, 6 Supply, 2 Builds
Norway: 1 Units, 1 Supply, No Change
Germany: 5 Units, 7 Supply, 2 Builds
Italy: 4 Units, 4 Supply, No Change
Austria: 5 Units, 5 Supply, No Change
Russia: 2 Units, 2 Supply, No Change
Turkey: 4 Units, 5 Supply, 1 Build

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/f1902.txt

Winter 1902 Adjustments due on Saturday, July 10, 2004.

[Sperate]

F Smy

[BlackHawk]

Modred, TheBB will be taking over for me from now on starting with the Winter Adjustments. I'd like to thank all the other players for a great game, especially France for the war we have just started that looks like it's going to be great fun (to bad I'll have to miss it :( ). Long live Spain!

[TheBB]

Where are you going anyway?

[Maegtelluma]

Aiee.....I've been had. Good game, BH.


My orders are in, for what they're worth.

-Maeg

[Modred]

Alright, I only need OboeGuru. I will be away from home from tomorrow (Sunday) through Friday afternoon. I would prefer to get the adjustment map up so that you all can prepare your movement rather than sit around waiting.

I will have computer access, only it will be on public computers that I have to wait in line to use, so no time to make maps while I am gone. :(

[OboeGuru]

Graa... this is what happens when I actually go somewhere for a day...

Build A Mun, A Kie.

[Modred]

Winter 1902
Date Processed: 7/10/04

England: Nivek
F Lvp

France: Maegtelluma
disband F Iri
disband A Cat

Spain: TheBB
F Cor
A Mad

Norway: WhiteKnight
No Change

Germany: OboeGuru
A Mun
A Kie

Italy: Modred
No Change

Austria: Subjukator
No Change

Russia: TheGreatBrain
No Change

Turkey: Orodreth
F Smy

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/w1902.txt

[Subjukator]

So when these orders due?

[TheBB]

Modred's away till friday anyway. Mine are in.

[OboeGuru]

PLEASE NOTE:

Anyone that wishes to speak with Germany has only Thursday to do so, unless orders are going to be due around Tuesday next week, which is doubtful. Otherwise, I will be AFK until around that day, and speaking with me is pointless because I will not reply.

[TheGreatBrain]

Russian Orders:

A Mos-StP
F Rum-Sev

[Sperate]

Come on Modred, I need to talk with you on AIM...

[Modred]

Alright, I am back. There are some orders that I don't have yet, and I will be leaving again Monday afternoon to return next Thursday, so those who needed to talk or whatever before the next adjucation, get it done quickly and get your orders in so that I may put another map up before I leave again. Yeah, I know; I am gone too much in July. But we will just have to deal with it.

[OboeGuru]

You could always delegate someone to make one map, but eh, your choice.

My orders are in, I believe.

[Sperate]

Well, mine are in...

[TheBB]

You have mine right?

[Modred]

I just need Maegtelluma's order.

[Maegtelluma]

Terribly sorry. It's in now, thanks for waiting.

[Modred]

Err...I know you are going to be upset...but I fogot to save Orodreth's orders...am working on having him resend them...

[Modred]

Spring 1903
Date Processed: 07/18/04
Summary: A very bloody Spring.
France and Russia are reduced to unitless status.
Norway is in danger from German inroads into Russia.
Turkey and Germany look prone for large gains.
Italy makes the first successful attack against Austria.
England finally heads for Ireland, while a Spanish fleet appears in the Channel.

England: Nivek
F Lvp - Iri
A Lon - Bel
F Nth CONVOY A Lon - Bel
F Nor S F Swe H
F Swe S F Nor H

France: Maegtelluma
A Bur - Bel DISLODGED

Spain: TheBB
A(Mad) - Cat
F(Cor) - MAO
A(Mar) - Bur
A(Par) s A(Mar) - Bur
A(Bre) - Pic
F(MAO) - ENG

Norway: WhiteKnight
F Gob-Stp(SC)

Germany: OboeGuru
A Warsaw -> Moscow
A Galicia -> Vienna
A Prussia -> Livonia
A Silesia -> Bohemia
A Munich S A Silesia -> Bohemia
F Denmark HOLD
A Kiel S F Denmark HOLD

Italy: Modred
F Ion-Alb
F Adr S F Ion-Alb
A Ven-Tri
A Pie H

Austria: Subjukator
A Trieste S A Vie
A Vie S A Trieste
A Budapest Hold
A Alb S F Greece DISLODGED
F Greece S A Alb

Russia: TheGreatBrain
A Mos-StP DISLODGED
F Rum-Sev DISLODGED

Turkey: Orodreth
F BLA - RUM
F SMY - AEG
A SEV S F BLA - RUM
A BUL - GRE
A CON - BUL

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/s1903.txt

Fall 1903 Orders due Friday, July 23rd, 2004.

[Maegtelluma]

hold on....what blocked me out of Belgium? Maybe this is a result of one of the variations...but what didn't work?

[OboeGuru]

England convoy to Belgium.

[Modred]

England convoy to Belgium.

And since BB supported his attack on Burgundy, which was unneccessary with the weak bounce rule (unless you didn't move), dislodging your unit and thereby disbanding it.

[Maegtelluma]

Oh, I missed the convoy, my mistake.

Good game :)

[Subjukator]

Ok please tell me why almost all my orders are in red because its disconcerting

[OboeGuru]

Cut supports. Simple as that.

[Subjukator]

So they havent lost their "strength" right?

[OboeGuru]

...Right? I'm not sure what you mean. If you're referring to that whole "Weak Bounce" thing, it wouldn't apply because not a single one of your orders was a move.

[Subjukator]

ok that was all I needed to know thanks

[Sperate]

And weak bounces only apply for that phase, anyways..

[Modred]

Alright, I am back, so if anyone needed to speak with me, you may now do so.

[Modred]

Ok. The deadline was an hour ago, and I have four sets of orders.

I still need OboeGuru (is he away? haven't heard anything from him in a while), Orodreth, and TheGreatBrain (Maeg doesn't need to submit orders since he has no units).

[Maegtelluma]

heh, go me!

[OboeGuru]

I've been having computer problems, sorry.

I'll get them in in a few minutes.

[TheGreatBrain]

Oh, right, the army from Moscow.

Russian Orders:

A Mos Retreat Sib

A Sib-StP

[Modred]

Wait a sec...sorry about that Brain. Didn't need any orders from you after all. Forgot all of your units were destroyed (remember, we are playing without retreats ;))

Ok, so I just need Orodreth.

[Sperate]

E-mailed.

[TheGreatBrain]

Oh right. Nevermind! :)

[Modred]

Fall 1903
Date Processed: 07/25/04
Summary: Blood! Blood! Blood!
Spain finishes off France, while Germany finishes off Russia and Norway.
Italy makes the first gains against Austria.
Germany moves toward foreign borders; for defense or for invasion?
Spain enters the Irish Sea!

England: Nivek
F Iri - Ire
A Lon H
F Nor - St.P NC
F Nth - Hol
F Swe H

France: Maegtelluma ELIMINATED
No Units

Spain: TheBB
F(ENG) - IRI
F(MAO) - ENG
A(Bur) - Bel
A(Pic) s A(Bur) - Bel
A(Par) hold
A(Cat) - Mar

Norway: WhiteKnight ELIMINATED
F GoB-Stp(SC)

Germany: OboeGuru
A Kiel -> Holland
F Denmark -> Skagerrak
A Livonia -> St. Petersburg
A Moscow S A Livonia -> St. Petersburg
A Munich -> Ruhr
A Galicia -> Ukraine
A Bohemia -> Galicia

Italy: Modred
A Ven-Tri
F Adr S A Ven-Tri
F Alb S A Ven-Tri
A Pie H

Austria: Subjukator
A Vie S A Trieste
A Trieste S A Budapest-Serbia DISLODGED
A Budapest-Serbia
F Greece S A Budapest-Serbia INVALID

Russia: TheGreatBrain ELIMINATED
No Units

Turkey: Orodreth
A BUL - SER
A CON - BUL
A SEV S F RUM - UKR INVALID
F AEG - GRE
F RUM - GAL INVALID

Adjustments:
England: 5 Units, 6 Supply, 1 Build
Spain: 6 Units, 7 Supply, 1 Build
Norway: 1 Units, 0 Supply, Disband F GoB
Germany: 7 Units, 9 Supply, 2 Builds
Italy: 4 Units, 5 Supply, 1 Build
Austria: 3 Units, 4 Supply, 1 Build (Waived Automatically as there are no open HSC))
Turkey: 5 Units, 6 Supply, 1 Build

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/f1903.txt

Winter 1903 Adjustments due Tuesday, July 27th, 2004. Earlier if possible.

[OboeGuru]

Meh, way to go Austria...

[TheBB]

F Por

Am away for a week now.

[Whiteknight]

And with that, the great existance of Norway popped out of existance. Can't we all just get along?

[Modred]

I still need Nivek and Orodreth. You have a little under a day left.

[Sperate]

A Ank

[OboeGuru]

Wow, I just realized how truly bad my last moves are/were... *sigh*

[Modred]

Nivek is late. He has been notified.

[Modred]

Winter 1903
Date Processed: 7/28/04

England: Nivek
F Lvp

Spain: TheBB
F Por

Germany: OboeGuru
F Ber
A Mun

Italy: Modred
F Nap

Austria: Subjukator
No Change

Turkey: Orodreth
A Ank

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/w1903.txt

Spring 1904 Orders due Sunday, July 31, 2004.

[TheBB]

Sunday July 31? Wtf? Did someone get his day count wrong? =)

[Modred]

I got it wrong on Imperial too. The deadline is today, Sunday August 1st, 2004.

I need everyone (except Nivek) to get their orders in.

[TheBB]

Just sent mine.

[Modred]

I still need Subjukator and Orodreth.

[Modred]

Spring 1904
Date Processed: 8/2/04
Summary: England and Spain trade blows.
Germany attempts an attack against Norway and enters Sevastapol.
Italy and Turkey are poised to divide the remaining Austrian land.

England: Nivek
F Lvp - Iri
F Ire S F Lvp - Iri
F Nor H
F Swe S F Nor H
A Lon H
F Nth - Eng

Spain: TheBB
A(Pic) - Wal
F(ENG) c A(Pic) - Wal
F(IRI) s A(Pic) - Wal DISLODGED
A(Par) - Bur
A(Mar) - Bur
F(Por) - MAO
A(Bel) h

Germany: OboeGuru
A Kiel S F Skagerrak -> Denmark
A Ruhr -> Holland
F Skagerrak -> Denmark
F Berlin -> Baltic Sea
A Munich Hold
A Galicia -> Rumania
A Ukraine S A Moscow -> Sevastopol
A Moscow -> Sevastopol
A St. Petersburg -> Norway

Italy: Modred
A Tri H
F Adr S A Tri
A Pie-Tyr
F Alb-Gre
F Nap-Ion

Austria: Subjukator
A Vie S A Budapest-Trieste
A Budapest-Trieste
F Greece-Alb DISLODGED

Turkey: Orodreth
A SEV S F RUM H DISLODGED
F RUM S A SEV H
F AEG S A BUL - GRE
A BUL - GRE
A CON - BUL
A ANK - SMY

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/s1904.txt

[TheBB]

No_Retreat my ass. :(

[Modred]

No_Retreat my ass. :(

Sorry BB. If it makes you feel any better, you aren't the only one who got hurt by it.

[OboeGuru]

Meh, meant to Hold StP, but I guess the end is the same.

This is what happens when you come up with like 3 different order sets... they get mixed up.
I think there's a lesson for everyone there...
...
...
...
Nah, there isn't. :p

[TheBB]

Sorry BB. If it makes you feel any better, you aren't the only one who got hurt by it.

Figures.

I'm just making wrong assumptions. =\

[Nivek]

Oh, shit.

[Subjukator]

A Vie S A Bud
A Bud S A Vie

Those'll be my orders for the remainder of the game! :)

[Modred]

Alright, I didn't actually set a deadline, but I have several orders. I'll go check around and see if I need anymore.

I have Oboe, Sub, and Nivek.

Therefore I need:
Orodreth and TheBB. BB should be back sometime tomorrow...

[Cygnus]

Remember his days are earlier than ours too! :D

[Modred]

Remember his days are earlier than ours too!

Ooh...quite correct you are.

[Modred]

Fall 1904
Date Processed: 8/10/04
Summary: Germany takes a decisive lead, while England and Turkey are reduced to equal status as Italy.
A clever move on the English part prevents Spanish growth.
A dastardly move on the Turkish part, prevents Italian movement while at the same time giving himself to Germany.
Italy executes an interesting move that could give him leverage around the Aegean Sea.

England: Nivek
F Iri - Lvp
F Ire - Iri
A Lon H
F Nth S A Lon H
F Nor S F Swe H
F Swe S F Nor H DISLODGED

Spain: TheBB
A Wal-Lvp
F ENG H
F MAO-IRI
A Par-Bre
A Mar-Bur
A Bel H

Germany: OboeGuru
A Kiel -> Denmark
A Holland Hold
F Denmark -> Sweden
F Baltic Sea S F Denmark -> Sweden
A Munich Hold
A Galicia S A Ukraine -> Rumania
A Ukraine -> Rumania
A Sevastopol S A Ukraine -> Rumania
A St. Petersburg -> Norway

Italy: Modred
A Tri-Ser
A Tyr-Tri
F Alb-Gre
F Ion-EMS
F Adr-Ion

Austria: Subjukator
A Vie S A Bud
A Bud S A Vie

Turkey: Orodreth
A BUL S A SMY - GRE
A GRE - SER
A SMY - AEG - GRE
F AEG C A SMY - GRE
F RUM H DISLODGED

Adjustments:
England: 5 Units, 5 Supply, No Change
Spain: 6 Units, 7 Supply, 1 Build
Germany: 9 Units, 13 Supply, 4 Builds
Italy: 5 Units, 5 Supply, No Change
Austria: 2 Units, 3 Supply, 1 Build
Turkey: 4 Units, 5 Supply, 1 Build

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/f1904.txt

[OboeGuru]

Spain has 7 supply and 1 build. ;) And I build A Kie and A Ber.

[Sperate]

I pass my build.

[Subjukator]

ROFL! I get a free build but can't use it!

[Modred]

Spain has 7 supply and 1 build.

Hush. So I can't count past four.

[OboeGuru]

Are we waiting on BB's build?

Mine are in, and I guess Oro's is forfeiting his, and Sub's is useless...

[Modred]

I've got BB's build now [A Mad] (the wonders of IRC). And I'll make this map after I do Imperial.

Oboe, I don't have your builds. Haha...just kidding. Don't you love hidden text?

[OboeGuru]

:p
Yes, I do in fact love hidden text, I am to be wed to it in 2 months. I expect a bachelor party, you bums.

[TheBB]

You just felt like telling him my build before collecting his?

[Modred]

BB, his builds were in long before yours. Read the "invisble" text in his post from earlier and my post. ;)

Besides, I had to write down your build somewhere.

Winter 1904
Processed on: 8/13/12

Germany
A Kie
A Ber

Spain
A Mad

Austria
waives build

Turkey
waives build

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/w1904.txt

[OboeGuru]

Y'all are slackers! :p

I've had orders in since the map was up (just about).

[Modred]

He's right. I have Sub and Oboe (and myself of course), so I still need Orodreth, TheBB, and Nivek.

[Nivek]

The map confirms what we all already knew:

I'm fucked.

Oh well, at least I can attempt to outlast some of the other countries.

[Modred]

Ok, I only need TheBB. I'll PM him.

[OboeGuru]

3 days... anything yet?

[Modred]

None...I shall badger badger badger badger badger, etc. him until he mushrooms some orders, less I release the snake.

[OboeGuru]

Release the snake! I want Map! ;)

[Modred]

This is the part where we mutilate theBB.

[TheBB]

Meh.

A Bur - Ruh
A Bel s A Bur - Ruh
A Mad - Cat
A Bre - Pic
A Wal - Bre
F ENG c A Wal - Bre
F MAO s F ENG

[Subjukator]

Just like a side-note, if any player wants me to do something with my two armies, just ask and I'll probably do it.

[Modred]

Ok, I have all orders, will make the map.

[OboeGuru]

Ok, I have all orders, will make the map.
Okay, so where is it, lard-ass? ;) :smirk:

[Modred]

Spring 1905
Date Processed: 8/28/04
Summary: Spain is once again hit by the Weak_Bounce rule.
Italy makes major gains in the Mediterranean.
Spain retreats from the British Isles, however apparently did not infrom the English Prime Minister beforehand.
Germany makes a minor gain in the capture of Norway.

England: Nivek
F Iri - Lvp
F Ire H
A Lon H
F Nth S A Lon H
F Nor H DISLODGED

Spain: TheBB
A Bur - Ruh DISLODGED
A Bel s A Bur - Ruh
A Mad - Cat
A Bre - Pic
A Wal - Bre
F ENG c A Wal - Bre
F MAO s F ENG

Germany: OboeGuru
A Holland S A Kiel - Ruhr
A Kiel - Ruhr
A Munich - Burgundy
A Berlin - Munich
A Denmark - Kiel
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
F Sweden - Norway
A St. Petersburg S F Sweden - Norway
A Galicia Hold
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Rumania Hold

Italy: Modred
A Tri-Ser
A Tyr-Tri
F Alb-Gre
F Ion S F Alb-Gre
F EMS-Smy

Austria: Subjukator
A Vie S A Bud
A Bud S A Vie

Turkey: Orodreth
A BUL S ITALIAN A TRI - SER
A GRE - AEG - CON
F AEG C A GRE - CON
A SMY - ARM DISLODGED

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/s1905.txt

[OboeGuru]

Weak bounce? I control Burgundy now.

[TheBB]

Spain retreats from the British Isles, however apparently did not infrom the English Prime Minister beforehand.

Sure as hell I did. I think the English Prime Minister is incompetent.

[Subjukator]

Weak bounce? I control Burgundy now.

Nope, Modred's mappage looks correct unless I'm missing something.

[OboeGuru]

Nope, Modred's mappage looks correct unless I'm missing something.
You are. Burgundy bounced out of Ruhr, and I attacked Burgundy; because of Weak_Bounce, A Burgundy is destroyed and my A Munich occupies Burgundy, and my A Berlin occupies Munich as a result. Nothing else tried to move to Burgundy so I could not have bounced out.

Please rectify this, Modred.

[TheBB]

I have an invisible wall of spanish energy channeled from the ancient gods blocking your entry to Burgundy. Sorry, and better luck next time.

[Modred]

Gah...got confused there Oboe. Sorry bout that. For some reason, I applied the support from Belgium to the failed Burgundy as well. Ouch BB...

[Nivek]

Sure as hell I did. I think the English Prime Minister is incompetent.
Or doesn't check his PM's.

[OboeGuru]

I have an invisible wall of spanish energy channeled from the ancient gods blocking your entry to Burgundy. Sorry, and better luck next time.
You dastardly fiend!

[TheBB]

Oh no! The ancient gods betrayed me! I shall need something stronger for next season!

[OboeGuru]

PMage of Germany's orderage has commenced.
I like how Orodreth is giving his land up to Modred to alter the balance of power...
Next person to get orders in and anyone with orders in before me gets a cookie. :)

[Modred]

Then you should send cookies to Sub and BB.

[TheBB]

I'll get them in in 2 hours.

Edit: Uhh.. wait. Mod that's not right. I haven't sent orders in have I? Which means I shouldn't get a cookie? Right?

[Modred]

I have a message from you entitled "Spanish Ordz" from Monday. Would you like for me to send them back to you to check them out, or will you just resend them?

[OboeGuru]

If Oro is late getting his orders in, we really don't have to wait for him, since he's just giving you all his territory, Modred. So we're really just waiting on Nivek?

[Modred]

Darn, you saw through our plan!! =P

[OboeGuru]

Oro tolod me himself he was going to "throw the game to you" if I didn't meet his demands.

A bit lame, but it certainly makes things a little more interesting now.

[Modred]

It makes it more interesting, provided that Turkey is still doing something. As you probably know, he is still in a position to greatly alter the game. I am currently looking for a replacement.

[Cygnus]

I guess I'm your man for Turkey. Except you'll have to run by me all the special rules again.

EDIT: Retreat in

EDIT 2: Or do you combine the retreat with the next turn?

[OboeGuru]

What the deuce?! Why didn't you say you were looking for a replacement for this turn?! This changes everything; I demand that either time be allotted to reform all plans or that Cygnus begin acting as replacement NEXT turn.

EDIT: BTW, Cyggie, there is no retreat phase. ;) :P

[Subjukator]

Yeah Cygnus. Didn't u know that? lol...

[Cygnus]

Alright I'll fix that... oh and the people I sent PMs to, please check them.

EDIT: Corrected orders now in

[Modred]

Ok everybody, talk to Cyg, fix your orders, map Wednesday, rather you've got new ones in or not. And Cyg, please pay attention to my PM, if you don't mind.

[Cygnus]

I did. Thanks for updating me with the no retreat things.

Re-re-resending orders. :)

[Modred]

Alright folks, I have orders for everyone...considering that this game has waited long enough, please get any updates in tonight, warn me that you need a day to talk with Cygnus, or forever hold your peace.

[OboeGuru]

Okay, I'm set to move along.
No changes to my orders.

[Modred]

Whoops, sorry bout that folks. I just sort of...forgot to you know...get on the Diplo Forum for a few days. Map will be up tonight.

[OboeGuru]

It's alright, I did the same for about a week, so I'm a much worse person. ;)

[Modred]

Fall 1905
Date Processed: 09/17/04
Summary: Things spice up as a new Grand Turk ascends to the throne and the Kaiser lends his aid to the beleagered dual-kingdom.
Italy spreads thinly across the Mediterranean, putting itself in a precarious position that could prove disasterous.
Spain solidifies it's defense in France, however stands unprepared to further defend Belgium against German reinforcements from Kiel.

England: Nivek
F Cly - Nwg
F Nth S F Cly - Nwg
A Lon H
F Ire H

Spain: TheBB
A(Cat) - Mar
F(MAO) - Bre
A(Bre) - Gas
A(Pic) - Par
A(Bel) h
F(ENG) s A(Bel)

Germany: OboeGuru
A Holland S A Burgundy - Belgium
A Kiel - Ruhr
A Burgundy - Belgium
A Munich - Burgundy
A Denmark - Sweden
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
F Norway - North Sea
A St. Petersburg - Norway
A Galicia S A Rumania
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Rumania S Austrian A Budapest - Serbia

Italy: Modred
A Tri S A Ser
A Ser S A Tri DISLODGED
F Smy-Aeg
F Ion S F Smy-Aeg
F Gre-Bul(sc)

Austria: Subjukator
A Vie-Trieste
A Budapest-Serbia

Turkey: Cygnus (Replacement)
A Bul S AUSTRIAN A Bud-Ser
F Aeg-Smy
A Con S F Aeg-Smy

Adjustments:
England: 4 Units, 4 Supply, No Change
Spain: 6 Units, 7 Supply, 1 Build
Germany: 11 Units, 14 Supply, 3 Builds
Italy: 4 Units, 7 Supply, 3 Builds
Austria: 2 Units, 3 Supply, 1 Build
Turkey: 3 Units, 3 Supply, No Change

http://www.geocities.com/jrus05/inviteone/f1905.txt

Winter 1905 Adjustments preferred by Monday, September 20th, 2004

[Subjukator]

A Budapest

[Modred]

The Prime Minister of Italy sends his congratulations to Berlin, as he now sees that it is impossible for any other power on the map to win in light of a recent communique with the leaders of a few other nations.

As the leaders of Europe are no doubt aware, the nations of Italy and Turkey were long allied in the struggle to control the Balkan region. After the successful Italian attack on Trieste, the plan had been established for this alliance to quickly finish off the resisiliant Austrians and proceed to create a solid defense against the already looming German presence. Crushing both Russia and Norway, and then attacking his allies from those crusades, the German military became a threat that must be dealt with harshly or else the sheer power of said forces would overrun the continent while the collective leaders of Europe were distracted by their own petty differences.

Luckily, the Spanish were vigilant enough to see this as well, however a lengthy and fruitless war against the Britains wasted precious time as Germany spread across the former English and Turkish territories in Russia and Scandinavia. As the situation began to look grim, the leader of Turkey offered an opportunity to hand over a certain amount of his supply center in hopes that the extra power given to my nation would help to stall off the German advances.

Unfortunately for this plan, a dissident faction within the Turkish government removed the Grand Turk and a new leader ascended to the throne. At this time, the Italian units were already in the Turkish territories, however the new leader did not request that Italy withdraw. A logical argument as to his adequacy to defend against the Germans himself would have been ample to convince the Prime Minister to withdraw his forces, as the only reason they ever moved into the Easter Medditerranean was due to a Turkish plan.

No such explanation or request ever came. Instead, the Turkish military foolishly attempted to destroy the Italian fleets that had sailed into the port of Smyrna and supported the an Austrian move against it's ally, Italy. Rather than use his great tact and logic to come to an end, the new leader of Turkey allowed the larger threat, being Germany, to advance into Turkish territory into a position that will cause Turkey more harm than if the Italian units had been requested to withdraw.

Believing that perhaps this new government would listen to reason, I sent correspondence requesting a peace between our nations for the purpose of stalemating the ever advancing Germans. In response, this ally responded that his interests were to "preserve Turkey," which involves, no not negotiation, but misguided force that is counterproductive to the very aim of preserving Turkey.

The conclusion is this:
Germany and Spain are will soon be locked into quagmire, as Germany slowly gains the advantage on the seas against England. Meanwhile, as Turkey and Austria fight against Italy, Germany will be forced to attack those nations in order to reach the requried victory conditions as extracting those supplies from Spanish conquered France would take far too long. In effect, a draw would now be possible if only one nation, Turkey, would agree; however this nation's leader is selfish and is not concerned with his survival, but rather a misplaced pride that blinds his judgment and prevents him from seeing that Italy was his ally and Germany is positioning for attack. Under his reason, it is less important to save Europe than it is to squabble over lands that were granted to the Italians. Negotiation is useless! He thinks only of force, and knowing he can repel Italy, he strives for nothing else.

The arrogance of this leader has doomed all of Europe. I pray you find comfort in this knowledge.

Modred
-Prime Minister of Italy

[OboeGuru]

Forgive me for butting in on this dramatic speech, but a draw is NOT possible under the current conditions. There are no two single powers that wield 2/3 control, nor three powers that wield 3/4 control.

Turkey, I recommend that you begin talks with me to avoid unnecessary conflict, I have no desire to squlch a potential ally, but be aware that your first communiqué did not inspire any sympathetic relations, and discontinued contact will only further that assessment.

Germany wishes to stress the importance of communication between (potential) allies and iteslf to ensure cooperation and success.

[Cygnus]

See player status to get some hint as to why I haven't been able to communicate.

A Turkish rebuttal to the Italians statement will come later tonight.

[Subjukator]

*Somewhere in a bomb shelter deep in the capitol of Austria, a radio transmission is sent to the leaders of Europe*

"The Italians will burn for their betrayal against us! Germany and Turkey are the true allies of Austria and will see your end come to life! Death to Italy! Victory for all!"

[Mattimeo]

Kekeke, Modred's plan failed and now he wants a draw. Squelch 'em Oboe!

~Don't Panic

P.S. This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were removed.

P.P.S. Don't yell at me for posting in your thread, I'm just bored waiting for a game to end.

[OboeGuru]

Come on, I already have orders made, slowpoke(s) ;)

[Modred]

Kekeke, Modred's plan failed and now he wants a draw.
That is generally the second best option to victory. :D

Forgive me for butting in on this dramatic speech, but a draw is NOT possible under the current conditions. There are no two single powers that wield 2/3 control, nor three powers that wield 3/4 control.
Draw must include all survivors, which means that we would either continue in stalemate forever or you would eventually give up on your conquests and accept the draw. That is simply how it works.

Turkey, I recommend that you begin talks with me to avoid unnecessary conflict, I have no desire to squlch a potential ally, but be aware that your first communiqué did not inspire any sympathetic relations, and discontinued contact will only further that assessment.
To my Turkish counterpart, I hold this up as evidence. Veiled though it may be, this is little more than a threat. An attempt to coerce you into submission. A warning that if you do not perform a certain action, he might find you at the wrong tip of his sword. I can do nothing to stop you from your current course of action, however we could have both benefited if we had more communication before this turn rather than resorting to warfare.

I am always willing to put aside my grievances against another ruler and join together with him for the greater good. Do not inhibit yourself and those who could save us.

"The Italians will burn for their betrayal against us! Germany and Turkey are the true allies of Austria and will see your end come to life! Death to Italy! Victory for all!"
Considering that Turkey supported the Italian attack into Serbia, and then supported the Austrian attempt to retake Serbia, how can you be sure of who is on your side? A fickle ally is a dangerous ally. Is he any more trustworthy than I? You yourself have seen how Turkey promised Italy a certain amount of builds, and then attempted to deny them. Will you allow yourself to be played upon as a pawn? Stand up for yourself, prove that you are the great leader of the dual-kingdom.

You even have a chance to regain your lost position, the only one who could stop you is Germany, but I wouldn't fear him, as he is the only local power who has not invaded you. He really has no reason to invade you, I mean, he only needs a minor amount of SCs to reach victory, he can surely get there without taking your lands.

--------------------------------------

I have builds from Sub. I require them from TheBB and Oboe.

[OboeGuru]

I gave them to you an AIM immediately after you posted the map...
But here they are again anyway: F Kie, A Ber

Draw must include all survivors, which means that we would either continue in stalemate forever or you would eventually give up on your conquests and accept the draw. That is simply how it works.
Gah, forgot about that one. You know I'll never agree. ;)

Considering that Turkey supported the Italian attack into Serbia, and then supported the Austrian attempt to retake Serbia, how can you be sure of who is on your side? A fickle ally is a dangerous ally. Is he any more trustworthy than I? You yourself have seen how Turkey promised Italy a certain amount of builds, and then attempted to deny them. Will you allow yourself to be played upon as a pawn? Stand up for yourself, prove that you are the great leader of the dual-kingdom.
Need it be reminded that the Turkey that supported Italy was a radical that was duly put out of power in favor of the now-sensible leadership? 'nuff said.

[Subjukator]

The Austrian government stands firm to its earlier statement.

[Modred]

Gah, forgot about that one. You know I'll never agree.
So you would go though years upon years of stalemate rather than give up on your solo victory?

Now you can all see his true motives.

Of course, we all want to win, but it is obvious that Germany cannot win without stabbing someone, or else defeating England and Spain at once. If you wish to hand yourself over to him, so be it. I've still got a few tricks up my sleeve to make your lives miserable, or hopefully at least draw a laugh. ;)

[OboeGuru]

Hey, you missed the wink that implies that the statement was made in jest.

You have made no draw negotiations with me, so obviously I won't agree to a draw that doesn't exist. :smirk:

[Modred]

You have made no draw negotiations with me, so obviously I won't agree to a draw that doesn't exist.
Well, why would I negotiate it if I wasn't sure everyone else would go for it? So we still come back to Cygnus. ;)

[Cygnus]

And Austria. Why must you pin all the blame on me? ;)

Modred, saying such things really makes me want to join up with you... Really!

[Subjukator]

yah so... at least close the thread if ur not going to make the map anymore

[Modred]

You haggle BB. I told you from the start this game would not have any NMRs.

[Subjukator]

didnt he get banned?

[Modred]

Um...no, he didn't get banned. And I've had a few contacts with him over the last few days through PM, so I hope he gets the message I just sent...

EDIT:
Haha...this is my post number 1337 =D.