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GroG
03-07-2007, 3:03 PM
What: Map contest by me.
Prize: Reputation, and playtime/reps.
When: *new* Sunday March 25th, 6pm EST is cutoff. Judging will be complete by the following Wednesday.
Where: Post your best map as an attachment here in this thread.
Tileset: Black Citadel or Outland
Size/Intended Play: 1v1 or 2v2 size Melee Map


How I'll judge: I will give numeric scores (I'll actually do this on pen and paper, and if you guys want I can give everyone their scores in each area, not just the winner, so you'll have feedback) based on these 4 categories:

1 - Balance. I'm looking for balanced map for all races, so basically map size is an issue (huge map + easy natural expansion = too good for human, too many small chokes is too good for UD, etc). I would also like shops included, including a tavern. Make sure these are relatively balanced to each players spawn, etc, so that not one spawn has the easiest time getting to shop.

2 - Flow. I don't want to try and scout my opponents spawn or expansion and have my scouter instantly aggro'ed by creeps and die. I also don't want to have to creep 23948248 spots before I see my opponent. A couple of bridges are nice, but not too many. I also don't want my units that are rallied to my hero to be aggro'ed by creeps on their way to my army. I want to be able to expand, but not directly next to my base (unless it's a small map and my opponent can make me pay for it).

3 - Appeal. I'm looking not only for a good ladder 1v1 or 2v2 map, but also something that looks fun. I want to see things I don't normally see in ladder (thus why I chose that tileset). Make it fun, and visually appealing (mini-map as well). Quick load times are a plus. Have a good name for the map. All those things. I really want you to wow me with a mixture of successful ladder based map plus new and fun things us players who play on the same 10 map rotation don't normally see.

4 - Replayability. I plan on hosting a tournament in the Wacraft Townhall section after this contest (and I plan on holding 2 more, for a total of 3 maps). I don't want to just play this map once and be done with it. I'm thinking of all the players who will play and how much they will all want to play in them. I want us all to like the maps and to possibly play customs on them as well. Pretend you are submitting this map to the B.NET monthly map submission and you are hoping your map is chosen to be the month of March for a melee ladder map. Maybe take a look at the melee maps currently in rotation and try and figure out what makes them successful and incorporate those into your map as well.

So each section will have some comments by me, as well as a score from 1-10 (1 being lowest, 10 being highest), for a total of 40 points. I will also hold a hopefully successful tournament using this as one of the maps in rotation, so you will actually get to see player comments (possibly bitching), and replays on the maps.

Good luck to everyone who submits a map!

Tom

Basan
03-07-2007, 5:30 PM
'Stickied' to see what our WB'dian mappers can do. And with luck, some of the not so regular mappers here as well. :)

Sid
03-07-2007, 9:19 PM
Sign me up! Never made a Melee map since ages...
Outland! Hmm.. Prepare for some real challange players!

Blacker
03-08-2007, 3:37 AM
Hmm,I would like,but I have no intelect for exatly Terrain editor and I can't play online.This what you looking for is very expensive and takes time,but it's great idea.So,mappers,let it look like hell :)

WarInSerbia
03-08-2007, 4:27 AM
Hardly a chalenge you'l soon get something.Just asking,can i make a epic map.

uberfoop
03-08-2007, 4:49 AM
Yea, if you want it to be one weird freakin 2v2 battle.

Blacker
03-08-2007, 6:46 AM
Yea, if you want it to be one weird freakin 2v2 battle.
Got right,create good epic map for 10 days and you'll need 20 minutes time to find or either attack your opponent/s.Let it be small,or if there are thousands of ideas in you head,medium :D

WarInSerbia
03-09-2007, 6:05 AM
Got it.A epic map coming in about a week.

Blacker
03-09-2007, 6:25 AM
I'll realy got to try that.Don't you think it's little harder to create good melee epic map for week?

GroG
03-09-2007, 8:16 AM
A week is rigorous, yes, but that's what makes it a competition. And may the best mapper win!

Blacker
03-09-2007, 8:08 PM
We got a deal.Here's a medium map for few days,maybe a week!

Dayoh
03-11-2007, 2:57 AM
ill make a melee map, but i wont enter it in this. Melee maps take way more then a week or if u want something totally imbalanced go for it.

Yoda
03-11-2007, 4:24 AM
A week is rigorous, yes, but that's what makes it a competition. And may the best mapper win!

But you've imbalanced it in another regard - what if some of the pro-mappers have a busy schedule this week?

RedRagToAnOrc
03-11-2007, 5:36 AM
I look forward to seeing some of the entries! However, I think it should be longer than a week. Doing all the terrain, creep aggros and testing/debugging all the maps is going to take a while. Make it a fortnight IMO.

Blacker
03-11-2007, 7:01 AM
Yeah,I started creating medium size map,I got extra idea about map and surely it'll not be done for a week.

It realy takes time to create,so maybe for month,because that's 3rd map I editing.

WarInSerbia
03-11-2007, 9:47 AM
I started editing in 12 am saturday.This is the progress I made.That map "The siege of Shadowmoon" will be done in friday or sooner.

Blacker
03-11-2007, 10:45 AM
I started editing in 12 am saturday.This is the progress I made.That map "The siege of Shadowmoon" will be done in friday or sooner.

Looks fine,we will see in the progress!

GroG
03-11-2007, 11:56 AM
Ok, I can extend it I guess. What's the standard time? A month? My original intention was that since it was spring break, people would have time to do something. I'll extend it by another week, and if you guys say you need even more I'll do it for a month.

Basan
03-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Yeah, two weeks seems fair for a melee map (new date in 1st post is now the 25th, same time). :)
Path testing (for balance and unknowingly engaging creep camps) is one of the worst things I hate to do when making my maps. A real conception time sinker, if ya ask me. :_poke: ;)

Blacker
03-11-2007, 6:16 PM
If you have all day time 8.00 - 2.00h and patience,map is done for a day!

Basan
03-11-2007, 6:27 PM
No Blacker. 6 pm EST is the same as 18 H in EST. Which in turn translates to 23 H GMT of that day, give or take a couple of minutes. ;)

Blacker
03-12-2007, 1:18 AM
I realy can't translate this,but I thought playing 18 hours on WE :D

WarInSerbia
03-13-2007, 12:05 PM
What is the prize for the best map?

Basan
03-13-2007, 12:21 PM
What is the prize for the best map?

Read this thead's 1st post. *Hint, hint* :P

GroG
03-13-2007, 3:34 PM
Just a reminder, everyone has 9 days left. Who's started?

GroG
03-16-2007, 12:14 PM
6 days left guys!

Dayoh
03-19-2007, 8:38 AM
Next time when u host a comp dont make it a melee map for one melee is dead and second noone maps melee maps here only UMS.

GroG
03-22-2007, 8:23 AM
Well I thought I had made the maps due today, so I was about to say remember to post your maps before the end of tonight, but it seems I slipped up and put Thurs 25th, which is actually Sunday. So maps are due by this Sunday people! Start getting them posted before Sunday!!!11

GL to all!

WarInSerbia
03-24-2007, 9:52 AM
My friends made some maps.
1st Autor's name Mislji.4 player map.map Name Hellfire.
2nd autor Mladen 6 player map name demon's crossing.
They told me that they made those maps in a week.Sad for me I didn't finished my map.But still I will post that map in www.epicwar.com.

GroG
03-24-2007, 10:27 AM
Alright people, remember maps are due tomorrow!!!1

GroG
03-25-2007, 12:11 AM
Dude, Warinserbia.. aren't those blizzard maps?

..yep, they are. Look in your Frozen Throne map section, those are both in there. Sorry, I can't judge those maps.

Did anyone else have any submissions? If not, I guess you can de-sticky this Basan. I guess no one wanted to make a melee map.

/grumble

Yoda
03-25-2007, 12:45 AM
A few people seemed interested, maybe they just haven't finished or something.

Blacker
03-25-2007, 6:39 AM
Dude, Warinserbia.. aren't those blizzard maps?

..yep, they are. Look in your Frozen Throne map section, those are both in there. Sorry, I can't judge those maps.

Did anyone else have any submissions? If not, I guess you can de-sticky this Basan. I guess no one wanted to make a melee map.

/grumble

Yeah,warinserbia,he got right.But GroG,why don't you use blizzard maps?

A few people seemed interested, maybe they just haven't finished or something.

He got rights,too...

GroG
03-25-2007, 10:12 AM
I can't judge a map that has already been created by Blizzard. The intent for this was for original and new creations to be judged and later played on in a tourney I was going to host in our WC3 melee section. I thought feedback and replays from melee players while playing on the winning map would be something not only informative and possibly motivating, but also fun.

Heck, if I knew how to make maps and I won this, it would be extremely neat watching replays of people duking it out on a map I had made.

Oh well, dreams are just that.. dreams.

Basan
03-25-2007, 12:13 PM
Furthermore I don't think that maps made by non-WB's members should be in the fold to be judged. If they submitted it themselves am fine with it. :)

To be honest, I don't even wanna consider the implications of someone stepping in and telling that the map was divulged without their consent or that they made it and were ripped off by the submitter.
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Final note: Now unstuck. It was fun while it lasted, although sadly it didn't had quite the punch I expected. :shiftyl: