View Full Version : Mistakes made when first playing SC.
King_Templar
06-02-2004, 4:46 PM
This is an idea i have had. Why not make a list of the really dumb things we did when first playing SC. This will help new players to know what mistakes to not make. Passing of the knowledge of mistakes so that people won't constantly have to make the same mistakes as someone else. I'll go first:
When i was first playing SC, i got it into my head that the first thing that i should make was a Refinery. I am serious. I saved my first 50 minerals and mined until 100 and then built a refinery. This is a bad idea. A very bad idea. I got my just punishment when someone got me with 5 SCVs, as i had only 4, i lost. So remember, starting your military is more important than getting vespene. Lest you be defeated in a really humiliating way.
assassin_666
06-02-2004, 8:37 PM
we all done some stupid things but theres so many ways noobs can go wrong in the begining its better just to correct them if they make the mistake and show them the right way.
One big mistake that has come to my attention only recently.. playing money maps. O_o
Darkslayer633
06-02-2004, 9:35 PM
I am a newb when it comes to starcraft but i know a problem that is not finishing the blizzard made campains if you can't do those you don't have a chance online
trudt me i know
Sambo83
06-03-2004, 2:58 AM
the blizzard campaigns are good for people who have never played rts. It introduces you to all the races, and the tech tree in a very useful fashion. But unless you're a total idiot, you're better off just starting online, and finding someone to teach you.
Schwitzer
06-03-2004, 3:56 AM
A couple of very common newbie mistakes...
Not having enough workers. You should have two workers per mineral patch and four per guiser, and be churning out more in preperation for expansions. Which leads me to another couple of points...
Castling. You can't win by playing defensively. You can barracade yourself inside your starting position with an insane defense, but your opponent will merely take over the rest of the map and own you... unless they're a newbie, and your 12 BattleCruisers actually manage to beat them (not likely, though).
Expanding. Don't wait until you're mined out before you consider expanding.
assassin_666
06-03-2004, 1:48 PM
some would say 3 per gas ^^
Sambo83
06-03-2004, 2:36 PM
Yea, 3 per geyser, but also, rather than trying to figure out how many 2 per patch is, and how many more you need, just keep building them all game, till like 150 supply. When you expand, you just move some to the expansion.
Battlecruiser
06-03-2004, 5:12 PM
Oh yeah. Another mistake is putting latency to extra high. I don't really want to explain what it is so this is the rule. Low latency is for fast games, usually played on cable where no one lags. Extra high latency is for when the game is laggy.
King_Templar
06-03-2004, 10:33 PM
Just becuase i feel this is getting put together wrong, let me say it again. This is supposed to be about mistakes that YOU made as a newbie. Not common newbie mistakes.
Battlecruiser
06-03-2004, 11:24 PM
Just becuase i feel this is getting put together wrong, let me say it again. This is supposed to be about mistakes that YOU made as a newbie. Not common newbie mistakes.
Ok, but THAT was a mistake I made.
King_Templar
06-04-2004, 12:16 AM
Ok, but THAT was a mistake I made.That's fine. Some people just seem to not be relating things as if they were personal experiences.
By the way, what do ya'll think of that really dumb blunder i made and related at the beginning of this thread?
Battlecruiser
06-04-2004, 12:56 AM
That's fine. Some people just seem to not be relating things as if they were personal experiences.
By the way, what do ya'll think of that really dumb blunder i made and related at the beginning of this thread?
To tell you the truth, I never did that. Though I did do refinery before supply once. But it didn't work out too good.
Fenix-MSG
06-06-2004, 9:50 PM
That's fine. Some people just seem to not be relating things as if they were personal experiences.
By the way, what do ya'll think of that really dumb blunder i made and related at the beginning of this thread?
I actually did that once cause i had a friend who like to tech to vultures real quick, and since i was a noob at the time i thought they needed vespene.
I used to turtle all the time. Don't do that. So i had turtle for a long, long time and had gathered quite a force behind my bunkers and siege tanks. I attack where is initial base was. I took that out rather quickly. He puts on shared vision and he ALL of the other minerals and an army of guardians, mutas, and hydralisks. It hurt.
I would also try to nuke with nothing but a ghost. It usually wouldn't work, but every once in a while i would find some one as new as me and it would. Soon though i found out how to do it from a boxer replay, i was only able to pull it off successfully once or twice. If you arent good at microing your units, it wont work for you. Take a ghost equiped with nuke and cloaking, a science vessel, a couple of vultures, and two medics(must have blind.). May want to bring an additional dropship for more defense for you ghost. Then use your science vessel to look for any cloaked units, or an observer if they play protoss. Then use the blind on their detectors, and you should be able to finish the nuke. Just dont try to nuke the zerg, i've never found a way too. Darn those overlords.
I always used to stuff my base with static defenses. Never do this either! I thought i was good, cause i was fighting off waves of their men. Of course, it was costing me alot of mine too though. So i thought, "Bunkers, Bunkers, Bunkers!" So they send in some archons, used an EMP then was able to kill them. Now here comes a couple of units, and i thought i had them too. Then a few of those blue scarabs come from out of the fog of war and blows up a bunker. They slowly pushed my defenses back, if it was before i learned to expand i would have lost.
Well that brings me to my next thing. I used to not expand alot. I would spend all my time in one base because i thought it was easier to mantain. If you stay in just one base, then you have no chance of winning. It is impossible to keep up with them as far as resources go. If you expand, you can get more resources.
Wow, now that one brings me into my next one. Dont be afraid to spend your resources. I thought, "Oh well, what could having more minerals hurt?." If you arent getting a large enough resource flow this is a big problem. If you have more than enough, then build more units. I like to try to have units coming from each one of my buildings if i can. If you still have money left, build another building to help with research. I mena being able top research siege tank damage and defense at the same time wouldnt hurt would it.
Im having alot of fun now. Another thing you have to do is research. At first i thought that just one more defense or a few more damage wouldn't help any, but it does. I remember one time i had failed to upgrade anything on my zealots. I sent an army of them in, accompanied my a few dragoons, to lay siege on their base. Well here comes fully upgraded lings(this guy called them cracklings. Is that really what they are called) Well i figured no big deal... it was. Well normally 1 zealot is worth a number of zerglings. Well these little cracklings, they could almost take out one of my zealots.
One more thing for the zerg players, but its not something i did wrong. I'm not the greatest zerg player, but im not the worst. Zerglings aren't as bad as you'd think. Against building or large units, such as the goliath, siege tank or the dragoon, they can take out these quickly if they succeed in surronding them.
....I just realized how horrible I was when i started playing. OH well i had fun doing it, maybe i will think of how i was even worse and post it here. :o
CODEZERO
06-06-2004, 10:09 PM
oh i kno
my first mistake on SC was using valks against ground btw this was my first time ever playing sc
One big mistake that has come to my attention only recently.. playing money maps. O_o
True dat.
PowderBB3D
06-20-2004, 6:53 AM
Workers workers workers. In the early days I would never expand, and I'd build maybe one or two additional workers. My rationale was that since workers cost 50 minerals I could just save that money and use it elsewhere.
Another dumb mistake was when my friends and I played we all used to be Terran and then lift off at the start of the game and make a common base. We figured that we could have three times the defense. This of course could not be so since we only got 1/3rd the money. Of course we didn't realizet this until 2-3 games had ended in spectacular losses.
- P
First mistake as a total newbie online= Massing 1 unit for military, while not worrying about anything else including vespene gas/turrets/science vessels, I massed marines, I had 150 of them, in my choke, the thing is I couldn't move them fast enough to get away from 3 nukes.....
Battlecruiser
06-23-2004, 7:20 PM
Workers workers workers. In the early days I would never expand, and I'd build maybe one or two additional workers. My rationale was that since workers cost 50 minerals I could just save that money and use it elsewhere.
Another dumb mistake was when my friends and I played we all used to be Terran and then lift off at the start of the game and make a common base. We figured that we could have three times the defense. This of course could not be so since we only got 1/3rd the money. Of course we didn't realizet this until 2-3 games had ended in spectacular losses.
- P
Haha, good one. By the time all of them have landed in one place, your opponent will most probably have their basic attack unit. Haha.
Ikeren
06-23-2004, 9:41 PM
I used to select all my gatherers at the same time and throw them at my mineral patch. That doesn't work so well...
PhoenixNo13
06-24-2004, 12:17 AM
First mistake as a total newbie online= Massing 1 unit for military, while not worrying about anything else including vespene gas/turrets/science vessels, I massed marines, I had 150 of them, in my choke, the thing is I couldn't move them fast enough to get away from 3 nukes.....Hahaha i had 120 marines and 40 medic.:D But ......hix..... not fast enough.....5 nukes was finish them off......... hix:cry:
bluemicrobyte
06-24-2004, 12:51 AM
I tried to attack with dropships.......what? I didn't know what they were!
Kamikaze_Chicken
06-24-2004, 7:14 PM
hmm... mass scv's lol
TankSpecialist
06-25-2004, 2:09 AM
I would only build about one factory and tried building an army of vultures. I thought vultures were the coolest units because they could lay spider mines.
Spdstr
06-25-2004, 3:58 PM
I am a newb when it comes to starcraft but i know a problem that is not finishing the blizzard made campains if you can't do those you don't have a chance online
trudt me i know
Um, I never beat it and I'm still good online ;).
PhoenixNo13
06-25-2004, 9:27 PM
LOL
when i was a newb. I tried use medic to heal Dragoon.... ^^
BroodBoy
07-07-2004, 4:25 PM
i would only build one factory or barrack to build units and would start gas right away which didn't let me build infantry fast enough to stop a rush or do one.
Omega_dragon
07-13-2004, 3:59 PM
I sucked so bad i only built defence at my entrence to my base and no where else. Then some one droped atleast 36 tanks at the back of my base! lol I have come a long way from there but i still kinda suck! lol
Cpt.Chronic
07-13-2004, 4:05 PM
I would only build about one factory and tried building an army of vultures. I thought vultures were the coolest units because they could lay spider mines.
But vultures are the coolest unit because they can lay spider mines. I've won games before with just a single spider mine...guess how (not you sambo, b/c I'm sure you know).
Spdstr
07-13-2004, 4:33 PM
LOL
when i was a newb. I tried use medic to heal Dragoon.... ^^
You can heal a Dragoon with a medic ;), just not his shields.
Member,
~ Spdstr
P.S. Nice Siggy of Sephy, I love that part of the game, the flash back and all...
Sambo83
07-14-2004, 6:41 AM
Mistake most warboards newbies make is mouthing off to sambo, then losing badly.
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