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AJ
05-31-2004, 7:48 PM
So if you're a smart cookie, you may have discovered the arcade is now installed on our forums under the Games dropdown on the navbar up top.

So now that you've enjoyed yourself with some games up there -- feel free to supply your advice and feedback here. I'm going to be selecting maybe what I feel to be the best 10-15 games currently out for the Arcade and installing them a bit later.

I'm not a huge fan of massive hacks, so I think we'll remain with things as they are, no gaudy awards in the postbits, etc.

ZeroDarkStar
05-31-2004, 7:49 PM
Sweet! Thank you!




You are the best!

Whiteknight
05-31-2004, 7:50 PM
Hmm, I'll try them out and see. Still come for the forums, stay for the forums, games can be a little nicity while you wait.

hammocksleeper
05-31-2004, 7:51 PM
Abra cadabra, Hocus-pocus, 1, 2, 3, cut and paste!

Cool beans man.

But let's at least get some different games than those other forums have. Get the good ones, not these old, tired games. I'm sick of these games. Originality, that's where it's at!

assassin_666
05-31-2004, 7:52 PM
aww and i wanted a trophy or something under my name. maybe ill secretly install awards onto warboards :ninjar:

AJ
05-31-2004, 7:54 PM
I believe I said I'll be changing the games around a bit later, just got home from a little vacation.. so appreciate what you've gotten.

This is a rather time-consuming hack, lots of edits, etc.

pixels
05-31-2004, 8:07 PM
so... addicting...

w00t snake

assassin_666
05-31-2004, 8:08 PM
dont forget to add towerball ^^

Maegtelluma
05-31-2004, 8:30 PM
towerball is like the only game i'm good at, i had the record on that for a few days once.

Carnage
05-31-2004, 8:32 PM
We Love You Aj!!! O_o

WeekendLazyness
05-31-2004, 8:34 PM
I don't like the helicopter one.

Whiteknight
05-31-2004, 8:35 PM
I love snake and helicopter!

I'm not a fan of asteroids and the rest.

EDIT: OMG!!! DUCKHUNT!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

assassin_666
05-31-2004, 8:40 PM
Nooooo The Helicopter Where Is It My Record =-(

Maegtelluma
05-31-2004, 8:42 PM
Duck Hunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yayayayayayayayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!

AJ
05-31-2004, 8:42 PM
The Helicopter game has left us.
So Sad. *cough*

assassin_666
05-31-2004, 8:45 PM
allright i get a feeling aj doing that to me on purpose. hes jealus of my helicopter skillz.

Whiteknight
05-31-2004, 9:09 PM
Hmm, the duck hunt doesn't live up to it's nintendo. I do like that weird game where you have to shoot at the middle thing.

WeekendLazyness
05-31-2004, 9:41 PM
Does Duck Hunt go on forever?

Also:
AJ, your sig of the Mac eating the Dell, IBM, and Windows Logos breaks the 25KB size limit. Along with some copyrights, I'm sure.

AJ
05-31-2004, 9:51 PM
Forget copyrights. ;)
But thanks -- corrected.

Schwitzer
05-31-2004, 10:00 PM
AJ, your sig of the Mac eating the Dell, IBM, and Windows Logos breaks the 25KB size limit. Along with some copyrights, I'm sure.
Hahaha, you tell him!

Whiteknight
05-31-2004, 10:25 PM
Hehe. Well, my first sig gave it's run for it's money. :)

Time to check out the arcade again.

BTW, WL, do you go around checking everyone's signatures or something?

WeekendLazyness
05-31-2004, 10:42 PM
Of course not. :shiftyl: :shiftyr:

Whiteknight
05-31-2004, 11:28 PM
Ahah! WL, your signature exceeds the current limit for the signature. I suppose you will have to change it now. :p

WeekendLazyness
05-31-2004, 11:32 PM
25.97 KB? Is .97KB too much? I can change that.

Whiteknight
05-31-2004, 11:36 PM
Well, if you are so anal about something, I suppose someone else has to be. ;) Bah, w/e, I was just kidding around, you don't have to reduce it.

BTW, it's 1.7kb over the limit.

WeekendLazyness
06-01-2004, 12:09 AM
That depends if you think a kilobyte is 1000 or 1024 bytes. And I can't change it, stupid PS won't start.

Whiteknight
06-01-2004, 1:43 AM
Well, a kb is technically 1024 bytes, but I didn't feel like converting it.

Oh not! 0.97 of a kb! You must change it, for you have sinned! Begone, they sinner!

/me get's all worked up about 1kb

Dont' change it ...it's one measly kb. I'm sure the 56ker can wait an extra half a second, eh?

Schwitzer
06-01-2004, 1:59 AM
The signature limits are in place to prevent outrageous signatures... we don't want to turn into signature nazis or anything...

Nahotnoj
06-01-2004, 8:23 AM
sorry to break up this little signiture discussion, but how do you shoot in asteroids?

hammocksleeper
06-01-2004, 8:24 AM
sorry to break up this little signiture discussion, but how do you shoot in asteroids?You need a special keypad. Costs about $20 at Best Buy.



































Hit spacebar, man :rolleyes: :)

Nahotnoj
06-01-2004, 8:26 AM
thnx you.... im 2 tired, i almost believed that thing about the special keyboard...

Schwitzer
06-01-2004, 8:47 AM
When you don't know the controls to a game, your best bet is to start by trying the arrow keys and the control keys ([ctrl], [alt], [shift] and [space]).

XTERMIN8OR1
06-01-2004, 9:37 AM
Those arcade games are freakin' addicting!

Nahotnoj
06-01-2004, 1:29 PM
its fun to play ateroids without shooting, just to see how long you can survive...

Battlecruiser
06-01-2004, 2:24 PM
When you don't know the controls to a game, your best bet is to start by trying the arrow keys and the control keys ([ctrl], [alt], [shift] and [space]).
Yeah and if it is a shooter or something try "w,a,s,d"

AJ
06-01-2004, 9:26 PM
New games.

Whiteknight
06-01-2004, 10:11 PM
New games.
I <3 you AJ for the spiked hair guy one. So fun, and the music just doesn't get out of your head.

Battlecruiser
06-01-2004, 10:20 PM
Haha, the equalibrium game is fun but hard.

AJ
06-01-2004, 10:34 PM
So far most of these are games I think that will stick around for quite some time.
I'm looking at some others, but these are some of the more high-quality ones.

AJ
06-02-2004, 12:17 AM
Sonic has been added.

Mtank
06-03-2004, 3:52 AM
i cant play sonic..it doesnt load for me!

ps: maybe one day we should look toward games made by warboard members (if any good ones are ever made)


like maybe whack the fenguin or Mod-bot.

AJ
06-03-2004, 9:10 PM
Sonic is a larger file, perhaps issues with that. Working fine for others.

Added a couple more games.

Whiteknight
06-03-2004, 11:00 PM
Sonic is a larger file, perhaps issues with that. Working fine for others.

Added a couple more games.
I love you even more for adding the Sonic and old-school ball rolling game which I used to play on my sega. ^_^ These are much better than at BF.

AJ
06-03-2004, 11:21 PM
Heh, thanks.
I try and add more as time progresses, but I really only wish to put good quality games -- so it may take some time. ;)

Neo
06-04-2004, 2:52 AM
You know what would kick ass?

Something like an old SNES game, like Super Metroid, or Megaman or something converted entirely to flash... omg or even like FF6 or CT xD

*Rambles on*

We need another action game besides the Stick Fighter thingy... Ooo... Old School Doom in Flash format :D

-Neo

Mtank
06-04-2004, 7:50 AM
maybe we should have a Wb game project group thingie....might be fun.

assassin_666
06-06-2004, 7:09 PM
it says mini-put 3 added but there is only 1 and 2

AJ
06-06-2004, 8:11 PM
Indeed it does.

AJ
06-06-2004, 11:26 PM
In case you missed it, the arcade now requires users to have 10 posts on the forums and to have been registered for a minimum of 3 days.

Perhaps this will encourage posting over simply playing in our arcade, eh? ;)

Battlecruiser
06-06-2004, 11:29 PM
In case you missed it, the arcade now requires users to have 10 posts on the forums and to have been registered for a minimum of 3 days.

Perhaps this will encourage posting over simply playing in our arcade, eh? ;)
Thank you. Some person named Stoner and his friend Tsunade tried to dominate our arcade. Luckily our awesome arcade players, whiteknight, and schwitzer and a few others took them out.

Uh oh. I checked out the records. Stoner has become champion in alot of games.

AJ
06-06-2004, 11:38 PM
In an effort to keep our arcade free of .. score-fiddling and other less than good attempts at raising one's score, I'm about to reset the entire scoreboard.. and will have the arcade purge itself of scores every 15 days.

This will be our ladder length for now.. perhaps I'll expand that time if you guys find it is somewhat short, but I think this will allow you all a fair chance to get to the top of each game, and will allow for some more heated competition .. perpetually. You'll always get another shot at the person who beat you last time, etc.

TimP
06-06-2004, 11:47 PM
So in an effort to make everyone feel like a winner, the efforts of the better players will be erased? Who would want to waste their time playing if they know all their effort will be in vain.

AJ
06-06-2004, 11:49 PM
This is how ladders work, buddy.
Otherwise the Arcade eventually just becomes a collection of incredibly high scores, most gained through loopholes within the games, and discourages newer members from playing and having fun.

The idea of this Arcade is fun, with the added effect of some competition.. I'll probably expand the period of time to perhaps a bit longer, but I like the idea of resetting the scores and allowing for renewed competition.

TimP
06-06-2004, 11:52 PM
Nothing stops the same players from setting their "incredibly high scores" again on the day of the reset.

AJ
06-06-2004, 11:56 PM
If they've nothing better to do with their time then continuely take the time to abuse the games to reach such unattainable scores, then they're welcome to it.

And if I find them doing such, I'll take appropriate action. However, this is for friendly competition and allows for more possibility for those with less experience in the games, perhaps.

Regardless, your opinion is noted, thank you.

OboeGuru
06-06-2004, 11:58 PM
If they're so obcessive-compulsive that they have to have the highest score for that game, more power to them.

Might it be possible to keep a record of the highest score from each ladder session? Just so the current highest knows how they measure up to previous highests. In the interest of the whole competitiveness thing.

AJ
06-06-2004, 11:59 PM
Oboe, you're welcome to start a record of that.
At the moment there's nothing in the system to allow for that.

OboeGuru
06-07-2004, 12:10 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of coding that in. I can envision it getting pretty messy though, if anything's just a little off... Meh.

Schwitzer
06-07-2004, 12:22 AM
Is it that hard to generate a list of champions just before you purge the scoreboards? I would've thought it'd be a pretty straight-forward bit of coding, but I haven't looked at the arcade code.

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 12:30 AM
lol i know if my scores got erased every 15 days i would stop playing allthough that would only encourage you to do that.

Battlecruiser
06-07-2004, 12:31 AM
lol i know if my scores got erased every 15 days i would stop playing allthough that would only encourage you to do that.
Isn't it erased every 13 days in blizzforums?

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 12:32 AM
bf doesnt do that. i just saw the scores on wb get erased i guess we can say bye bye to my 4 championship titles

Tsunade
06-07-2004, 12:40 AM
Congrats on inducing me to post for the first time. Yes, I was a big player of the arcade until these regulations were put into place Sunday, but I never used "loopholes" or other malicious methods to get my scores. Before the boards were suddenly wiped clear, I had only one high score, so I was hardly "dominating" the arcade in any sense of the word. Stoner had many high scores, but he got all of them through hard work and skill alone and they were being challenged and overturned pretty frequently. The recent regulations seem to be an effort to take away all our high scores and shut us, being new members, out of the arcade for a few days. There was a great deal of competition already before these drastic changes. For instance, I had a tough battle for the high score in disc dash on Sunday and I set a new record as a result. The only way this makes the arcade more friendly to new players is that is discourages skilled players from working to set new high scores because they'll get wiped in a week or two.

The idea that Stoner and I were in some sort of conspiracy to control the arcade is total lunacy. We were not abusing the games to get unattainable high scores, we were just putting effort into setting scores with all our pure skill at the games. These scores may be unattainable for some people, but not for people like us who can actually play these games well. As soon as Stoner and I can actually play in the arcade again, we will just set the high scores all over again if the group of people playing these games doesn't change.. it is that hard to believe that we are just the best at the arcade games? It's not Stoner's fault that he is the best one playing the games and setting the scores, so why is he being punished for it?

Personally, I worked quite a bit for those high scores in disc dash and I was pretty indignant about having them suddenly erased. Isn't the whole point of the arcade system to bring the best players to the top to get the high scores? This wipe probably has more to do with us beating the scores of admins regularly than anything else... how is that fair? AJ probably doesn't even care what we say, as he seems set on doing this, but the same patterns of high scores will fall into place again once Stoner and I are able to play on the arcade. Enjoy your days of free practice and savor your high scores while you can, we will be back on top in no time.

Fenguin
06-07-2004, 12:41 AM
Is it that hard to generate a list of champions just before you purge the scoreboards? I would've thought it'd be a pretty straight-forward bit of coding, but I haven't looked at the arcade code.
There's actually a "weekly high scores" thing in the arcade. If we were to set it to be the default high score list or something, and the top 10 high scores to only exist as a link from the weekly high scores page, I think it would work. :) I think that would be easier than writing a all-time-high-scores listing from scratch.

AJ
06-07-2004, 12:44 AM
Attitude will get you nowhere in life.
And I'd like to note that we have 3 admins. Edge who hadn't played. Fenguin who I'm sure didn't care, and AJ who had all of 2 scores in two games, because I really don't care to hold highscores.

I'm usually a nice guy, but you act as if the world is out to get you. Perhaps you should realize I'm running a forum here, not your local game shop. The arcade is merely a perk of the forums.

And yet again, you must realize it is about the experience for the sum of the members here, not solely you and Stoner, who your post eludes to your comradery, etc.. but this is immaterial. The fact of the matter is, users with 0 posts should not have been allowed in the Arcade in the beginning anyhow. That's my own mistake.

Stoner
06-07-2004, 12:46 AM
Since there is basically no point in ever returning to the Arcade now, I'm done with these forums. For a brief period of time, I had actually considered becoming a member here, as I thought I might have some decent input in WC3 topics. I guess we'll never know now, huh? Before I leave, I would like to respond to a few of the more intelligent statements I've read.


Battlecruiserhttp://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-top-left.gifQuote:http://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-top-right.gifhttp://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-by-left.gifOriginally Posted by AJhttp://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-by-right.gifhttp://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-top-right-10.gifIn case you missed it, the arcade now requires users to have 10 posts on the forums and to have been registered for a minimum of 3 days.

Perhaps this will encourage posting over simply playing in our arcade, eh? ;) http://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-bot-left.gifhttp://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/misc/quotes/quot-bot-right.gifThank you. Some person named Stoner and his friend Tsunade tried to dominate our arcade. Luckily our awesome arcade players, whiteknight, and schwitzer and a few others took them out.

Uh oh. I checked out the records. Stoner has become champion in alot of games.


I retire from the Arcade with eight records that will never be beaten no matter how often you play or how many times you decide to perform a cowardly reset of all the scores. For the record, neither myself nor Tsunade were "taken out" by the "awesome" Arcade players Whiteknight and Schwitzer (that is, if you define awesome as spending over two hours on a single game). Of course, I'm talking to the Master of Games himself, Battlecruiser, who, by his own logic, must fall into the category of "awesome" arcade players with his incredible Asteroids accomplishment. After all, you didn't dominate that game at all with your score did you, you smart hypocrite fucker? Back to my initial argument, if you look at the statistics, Tsunade and myself recently owned your heroes in a combined total in some four or five games, not by any loopholes but by a measure of skill you cannot begin to comprehend. I think Schwitzer held two records last I checked, and Whiteknight just one. We were taken out? Battlecruiser: a piece of advice for you in future posts; it might be wise to reread what you type before you post it so you don't sound like a dumbass.

AJ: This is how ladders work, buddy.
Otherwise the Arcade eventually just becomes a collection of incredibly high scores, most gained through loopholes within the games, and discourages newer members from playing and having fun.

The idea of this Arcade is fun, with the added effect of some competition.. I'll probably expand the period of time to perhaps a bit longer, but I like the idea of resetting the scores and allowing for renewed competition.

Ah, AJ, the man, or should I say boy, behind it all. I must say, this was an apt and intelligent move on your part. You probably fap yourself silly when you go on this site and look at all the power you command... power over the high scores of some twenty or thirty people who derive pleasure from playing the games you and ten million other sites provide. I mean, isn't the purpose of playing games to enjoy yourself? You claim that the idea of the Arcade is fun, but if people play for fun, they won't care how high the scores are. If they do, they are obviously playing for competition, but not the kind of competition you endorse... it's more of a corrupt competition that enables players to go beyond their limits and spend in excess of two hours on a single game. Is that what you are trying to encourage, AJ? You are obviously making a huge assumption about the values of new members, and the added requirements not only discourage new membership but discourage people who don't like to post as much, though they may be active gamers on your forum. Why are you going at cross-purposes to yourself... are you MPD or something? Finally, you make a statement about your actions provoking "renewed competition." Renewed competition among whom, AJ? My previous arguments aside, wasn't your "challenge" function intended to be the harbinger of competition among members? You're not making much sense here.

To conclude, I would like to say that your resident moderator has done well in perpetuating the negative side effects of our capitalistic system in this microcosm of an Arcade. By enforcing these requirements, you have not only weakened competition but, likely, participation as well. I would, however, like you to know that I do thank you on some levels. I'm content knowing that I earned my eight records through skill, and I don't need the accolades of a bunch of strangers to confirm that. Erase the evidence as you will, almost every new top score you earn will be an empty victory, at least in terms of skill. I also seriously hope that this will discourage people from spending such obscene amounts of time on any one game...

P.S. Tsunade deserves none of this. If you had some kind of personal vendetta against me for breaking all your records, you could have just banned me and gotten rid of them. He earned a legitimate score on a hard fucking game, one that even I had difficulties in, and if you weren't wrong for all the rest of it, you at least owe him an apology.

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 12:49 AM
lol who cares about a mesely 10 posts? but maybe you should have something like have a list for the weeks best and a list for all time high. at least keep the personal best other wise thats not your personal best up there.

Battlecruiser
06-07-2004, 12:53 AM
Haha, since when did I say I was good at arcade games you retard? I could own you anyday at Halo or Battlefield 1942. That I know for a fact because I am one of the best players on Battlefield 1942 and my skills in Halo are similar. And because you somehow read between the lines you must have somehow concluded that I am the master of games. And where could ou have gotten that? Maybe your online dis maker that you employ to dis others. Oooooh now that I am called the master of games, I am so insulted. Should I start crying now? Or should I tell my mommy?

AJ
06-07-2004, 12:58 AM
Well then. Good ridance to bad garbage.
I'll leave your post stand as a testament to what I won't be missing.

And yet again, you seem to think that I get a kick out of this all for some reason. Putting up with crap like this is just another thing we grin and bare and move on from. Regardless, one more little pest doesn't affect my daily work, and I hope you find more pointless games in life that you can claim victory at, so when the time comes to win the true game.. the real game.. you'll find just how far behind you've fallen.

Regardless, cut the attacks.
Stoner, you've become rather sparky in your whole two posts. You're free to post if you will, or don't return and play/post in these boards again. Your choice. You won't be banned.

Tsun, this is not directed at you or anyone else in specific. I'd discussed it with some of the other staff previously and we'd decided to go ahead with it. The fact that you held a high score and weren't able to play due to new restrictions is merely coincidental. I'm sorry.. but is it truly too much to ask for players in the arcade to have given 3 days and 10 posts to the forum?

I want all personal attacks to end now. Post, Play, Be merry. Or something like that.

Whiteknight
06-07-2004, 1:07 AM
There's actually a "weekly high scores" thing in the arcade. If we were to set it to be the default high score list or something, and the top 10 high scores to only exist as a link from the weekly high scores page, I think it would work. :) I think that would be easier than writing a all-time-high-scores listing from scratch.
You know, I like implementing this idea the most.

People who play for fun and are somewhat competitive can have a good time just beating people every week, and although they know their scores will be erased, they also know that they are not good enough to hold a title and enjoy the limited time title.

For those who are extremely competitive, there will still be the high scores of it. They can still push themselves to reach the top score and can feel good when they reach the top.

The weekly high scores would be shown, and you would have to click at tab to get the all time high scores. I think that would be a great solution. I don't quite care for wiping scores.

The ten post rule I agree with. This will not allow people just to mooch off our forums for the games that we get. This will *hopefully* get them interested in the forum as well.

Battlecruiser
06-07-2004, 1:11 AM
The ten post rule I agree with. This will not allow people just to mooch off our forums for the games that we get. This will *hopefully* get them interested in the forum as well.
Same here. Stoner just do the ten posts and stay here for a while if you want to play the arcade. No one is going to say anything is wrong with that. But of course, it is your choice like AJ said. I hope you can understand why we are saying this.

Tsunade
06-07-2004, 1:11 AM
Considering the facts that someone just broke the 1 million barrier on disc dash on their 3rd score above 10,000 and pre-wipe my top score was 450,000 this new system is really not stopping abuse and cheating.

Wow, now that disc dash is gone from the arcade because someone clearly exploited it with a program, I hope you'll see this was probably a mistake.

OboeGuru
06-07-2004, 1:20 AM
Maybe by playing the games here, people will look around a little and get interested, any of you think of that??? Hmm???

Fenguin, if the ton ten/weekly high scores is anything like in the IPB arcade, which is derived directly from the vB arcade (I believe), they will be erased along with all the scores. So it's back to square one.

That's why I highly favor coding a special archival high score thing.

This argument is getting very childish very quickly.

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 1:29 AM
just to point out something about the either getting rid of scores every 15 days or keep highest scores and have a weekly score. a week or 15 days is kinda short specialy a week maybe something liek a month would be good

Fenguin
06-07-2004, 1:32 AM
Fenguin, if the ton ten/weekly high scores is anything like in the IPB arcade, which is derived directly from the vB arcade (I believe), they will be erased along with all the scores. So it's back to square one.

That's why I highly favor coding a special archival high score thing.
That's why you never reset the scores. You just set the weekly ones (can be changed to monthly, etc) to be default, so the high scores users see first are the weekly ones. Then, if you want to see the all-time top scores, you click the "top 10 scores" thing.

Stoner
06-07-2004, 1:32 AM
Okay, if you want to sound like an educated person when you make an argument, it helps to have correct spelling and grammar. Seriously, I come back to see if there are any fallacious statements to strike down and get a few indirect responses capped off by this utterly unintelligible phrase:

Maybe your online dis maker that you employ to dis others.
I want to refute something, but I don't know what the hell to refute!

I like the new scores idea (I believe it was initially proposed by Feng), and it's a shame I won't be around to see it. I'm not going to spend a few more days (yes, I think it took me six hours over a period of three or four days to earn all of them) getting my scores back, especially when people can hack the new scores in the ten minutes after they're reset. BTW AJ, way to shoot down my compelling and specific arguments by calling me "garbage" (childish, unsupported insults always work) and making a few general statements that have no basis beyond opinion.

Later friends, I guess it's time to get back to my other "pointless games," like having a life. AJ, I'll leave you to your daily work of sitting in a chair, spending hours upon hours in a forum, and not getting any sun. I truly hope I haven't fallen behind in the true game... the real game... which is... oh yeah, I haven't got a damn clue. I hope you don't mean life, as that would make you a hypocrite, and we don't want that, do we?

P.S. I love arguing, so please give me some new material ;)

OboeGuru
06-07-2004, 1:37 AM
That's why you never reset the scores. You just set the weekly ones (can be changed to monthly, etc) to be default, so the high scores users see first are the weekly ones. Then, if you want to see the all-time top scores, you click the "top 10 scores" thing.
Oooooooohhhhhhhhhh, I get it now.

I like that. Do it. Or I'll tell Kupa to send his Moogle army after you. ;) :)

Please stick around Stoner, we need to keep the members that argue intelligently and post in proper grammar on a regular basis.

Tsunade
06-07-2004, 1:41 AM
I think you don't have to worry about Stoner coming back and "abusing" the arcade at this point... he's gone.

Whiteknight
06-07-2004, 1:45 AM
I'm just wondering if anyone recorded the scores before they were reset. Did anyone? Then we could implement fenguins idea (which seems to be a well thought out one) and give the scores back to the highest people there.

Stoner, it is nice to see someone who argues intelligently, but if you feel you must go, then go.

OboeGuru
06-07-2004, 1:56 AM
I'm just wondering if anyone recorded the scores before they were reset. Did anyone? Then we could implement fenguins idea (which seems to be a well thought out one) and give the scores back to the highest people there.
The point of the abrupt reset was to erase them from known existence, I believe.

Are you at least going to stick around, Tsunade?

Schwitzer
06-07-2004, 2:19 AM
I think what everyone needs to realise is that the arcade is just a handful of little games to enjoy when you're feeling bored. Sure, it's great to be a champion of a game - or even better - to be champion of several, but that doesn't justify getting as emotional over lost high scores as some people seem to be.

I've had quite a bit of spare time lately, so I drained a bit of it into the arcade. I'm not sure if that "two hours on a single game" comment was directed at me, but I'm hoping not because it'd ring as "bullshit" to my ears. At any rate, I get concerned when people start playing these things religiously.

It is not a case of the staff trying to dominate all the high scores, as someone claimed before. Even if we were to partake in such a pointless, stupid and above all hallow form of entertainment I'm sure we could find much more effective methods than erasing the entire scores table (i.e. wiping our own top scores in the process).

Also... this is not a case or regular posters vs. Stoner and Tsunade, as everyone seems to be convincing themselves. Seriously.Whiteknight and I, as well as Stoner and Tsunade, merely played games that we enjoyed and managed to get a bit of healthy competition going in a couple of respective games. Arcade games are an individual thing, anyway, so the whole idea of teaming up with someone to dominate it is stupid.

Stoner, if you are so caught up in the arcade that you're going to stamp your feet and yell, "I'm taking my bat and ball, and I'm going home!" then off you go; just don't try to start labelling other people as childish while you're pulling this stunt. A pity, though, because your debating ability was above the standard I usually witness in online forums.

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 2:52 AM
so umm about high scores is there anyway we gonna get pernament high scores yes or no?

edit: they took out dish dash. 1st helicopter now this GRR!!!!!! :cuss:

ShawnManX
06-07-2004, 3:29 AM
No one wants to play in an arcade w/o tetris.

Fenguin
06-07-2004, 3:47 AM
But we have Tetris, so we're fine. :D
*hint there's 2 pages to the arcade hint*

Neo
06-07-2004, 4:01 AM
Awe to bad, I beat Stoner @ his old score @ gold miner, and Fenguin topped out @ something like 100 million+ on the Arkanoid before it was removed.

To bad eh? "skill" got you 717k on Arkanoid... Hahaha.

Some dude named Semi got 1 mil on the Disc Dash so Aj removed it... but he added more golf XD

-Neo

ShawnManX
06-07-2004, 4:12 AM
Thankees Fenguin.

Tsunade
06-07-2004, 11:16 AM
In response to Oboeguru's question, I'm going to stick around, but it's sad that people utterly abused arkanoid and disc dash after the wipe.

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 12:41 PM
i dont aprove of takeing out games but why u take out helicopter no1 cheats in that

Neo
06-07-2004, 1:42 PM
Becuase AJ didnt like it.

And ladder seasons are fun... 15 days is enough time IMO :)

-Neo

ShawnManX
06-07-2004, 2:38 PM
I got the breakoutball stuck, help, it's been there for an hour.

http://apotheosis.tv/files/Image18.gif



http://apotheosis.tv/files/untitled15.GIF

Tsunade
06-07-2004, 3:42 PM
That's pretty damn disturbing...

ShawnManX
06-07-2004, 3:43 PM
Still there, and those had better be contacts, or you oversaturated the image, it's cool, kinda creepy but cool, in reference to the sig.

Stoner
06-07-2004, 4:03 PM
Okay, I really wish I could be done with this but some of you people are still under the impression that you can win back some credibility by putting forth a new bunch of dumb, opinionated statements.

I was hoping for some kind of factual counter to my earlier arguments; as of yet, I have gotten nothing to that effect.

I've had quite a bit of spare time lately, so I drained a bit of it into the arcade. I'm not sure if that "two hours on a single game" comment was directed at me, but I'm hoping not because it'd ring as "bullshit" to my ears. At any rate, I get concerned when people start playing these things religiously.

No, Schwitzer, that comment was not directed at you. It was directed at Whiteknight, who spent a period of some 7300 seconds getting his latest top score in Equilibrium. If you do the math, it comes out to over two hours of play. And yes, when you see something like this, you do get concerned.

Then we have this:
Stoner, if you are so caught up in the arcade that you're going to stamp your feet and yell, "I'm taking my bat and ball, and I'm going home!" then off you go; just don't try to start labelling other people as childish while you're pulling this stunt. A pity, though, because your debating ability was above the standard I usually witness in online forums.

Well, I can't argue with the last statement. I don't blame you for calling me childish, either; you weren't affected the way I was, so you probably can't fathom my response. Allow me to simplify it for you using your own logic. Let's say that you join a forum because some friends tell you there are some cool games there. Of course, the fact that you can get lasting high scores on the forum are an added bonus. Being a competitive person (and I know you are; everyone has seen your Space Invaders and Starcastle scores), you decide to make it your goal to get top scores in as many of the games as possible. When you've just about reached the pinnacle of your achievements, a forum admin decides to not only mandate additional requirements for playing the games, but makes sure to erase all the scores you'd obtained previous to the change. Not only that, but he erases everyone else's scores and blames it on you for being "just too good." Along with this, you get a nice little PM from this particular admin that says something along the lines of "Hehehehe, think you're all that? Try this on for size!" I suppose, by your logic, that you would accept this and say "Yeah, I guess I was dominating too much; the purpose of the scoring system is not for people to strive for high skill-based scores, but for everyone to have fun! That admin was right in depriving me of my hard-earned accomplishments, even if he can't logically justify his actions or present a compelling argument against my accusations!" Yeah, okay.

Awe to bad, I beat Stoner @ his old score @ gold miner, and Fenguin topped out @ something like 100 million+ on the Arkanoid before it was removed.

To bad eh? "skill" got you 717k on Arkanoid... Hahaha.

Some dude named Semi got 1 mil on the Disc Dash so Aj removed it... but he added more golf XD

-Neo

By "awe to bad," I am assuming that you are enraptured by a state of wickedness? No? Oh, then maybe you meant "Aw, too bad." If you beat me in Goldminer, all power to ya. It's not that hard a game. For the record, Fenguin hacked Arkanoid, and I know it's possible because I know how to do it. I just don't, because that, um, defeats the purpose of the games section. I've also heard that Semi used a program to hack Disk Dash, and I wouldn't be surprised if these guys found ways to do it for every other game.

Finally,
Get used to it. Have you ever had a real life? If you did it must have never involved going outside. People don't waste hours typing one post like you do. I type it fast, and if I make some grammar mistakes then too bad. I am pretty sure that was understandable. Of course you may be an english teacher who goes nuts if something is spelled wrong. You sound like you never heard slang before. Wow, that is just sad. Or maybe your some old person who uses 20s lingo who can't understand anything associated with today's generation. Maybe you should go outside. No, I don't mean outside your room, I mean on the sidewalk. Or maybe talk to a few people. Yes, I understand that could be hard for people like you because you won't understand what they are saying. Or you could stay the way you are, and keep sipping your Earl Grey Tea with some wafers. Also you can play your "sport" of hitting some ball with a hammer.

Ah, Battlecruiser, you are truly a gem. It's rare that you find someone who can actually support your side in a forum war without trying to, and I thank you for it. From what I can divine from your well-written response, you seem to be presenting two arguments against me. And I can tell that you took my advice of rereading before you posted because your response is so chock full of facts that anyone would be a fool not to believe you! First off, I love how all of you people use the last-ditch "you have no life" argument when backed into a corner. That's like when you're in a trial and the prosecutor presents all manner of evidence saying you did it, and you respond to the accusations with the eloquent statement "yeah, well your mom's a whore." It's fantastic how you can claim I have no life when I have four posts and spent three or four days in the Arcade (and that was purely based on initial innovation value). You, on the other hand, possess no less than 1900 posts. Sorry, but my Nerd-o-meter is going off the charts on this one. Also, where do you get the idea that I spend "hours" on my posts? My first post took me some twenty minutes, my second ten minutes, and this one probably twenty minutes as well. It doesn't take me long to type them because I am a fast typer, but I like to look them over when I am finished so I don't sound like a complete dumbass. I don't normally criticize people for grammatical faults, but when you have enough to obscure the meaning of a sentence, I think that deserves some attention. By the way, where did you get the 1920's from? Are you sure you didn't just pull a time period out of your ass in a pathetic attempt to sound remotely intelligent? Let me give you some more advice: proper spelling and grammar are not the bastion of English professors who like nothing more than pointing out faults in others' writing. They make you sound intelligent, give others the impression that you know what you're talking about, and generally get you ahead in life. You would be wise to learn that, but I see you still have some growing up to do. And yes, I understood your slang; I knew that you were talking about an "online diss generator (after a few minutes of hard scrutiny)," but it was more fun to diss you for misspelling the word diss, and for phrasing it in an incomplete and incoherent sentence. Anything else you have that I can counter? Hmm... hypocritical and trite statements about me having no friends... offensive English stereotypes... nope, don't think so.

hammocksleeper
06-07-2004, 4:16 PM
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Closed.

If you (meaning anyone, I'm speaking generally) have vendettas, take care of them through PMs or IMs or EMails please.

Carnage
06-07-2004, 4:36 PM
Stoner sux.

I haven't heard such irritating whining since the English Patient.

Just let it go, you big loser. =|

ShawnManX
06-07-2004, 4:37 PM
I wish I had a nerd-ometer, that'd be cool, I'd be all like, hey wanna hang out and be nerdy together.

On second thought, I'm too nerdy for you.

No I'm too me, for you.

And you too you for me.

We all have lives here, for some of us this is our life, it's still a life, so long as we breath, and our heart is capable of pumping blood through our veins.

What? You don't consider this a life? Do I care what you consider a life? Not really, because that's how you choose to constrain your life.

I consider each moment I am alive my life

My life is here, my life is @ work, my life is walking the dog, my life is running, swimming, jumping, laughing, loving, crying, hating, fighting, bleeding, hugging, stomping, yelling, screaming, singing, dancing, gaming.

Some lives are more some lives are less, some are long, some are short, some can be called wastes, and some can be called miracles, in death we are all the same, we are earth, we are all dirt, every year the earth collects approximately one hundred thousand metric tons of space dust; Which will be used in the construction, and nurturing of our offspring, the planet is growing.

The more I think about transience the more sense it makes, people are really given alot of time on earth, ~100 years, that is alot, It would take 2 years to travel the world on horseback, what are you going to do with the other 98? You could travel by foot, that's 5 years. Now what? You can go anywhere, you can do anything, you could go for 3 years by foot, find a heard of wild horses, tame one and finish your journey around the world thats only 20 years, it's next to free. What are you going to do with the life you've been given? There are worse ways to spend the time, you could become addicted to every artificial narcotic out there, and if you survive that you could go for rehab, even that's only 50-75 years, you could do that and still get a horse. You could spend it in a large mansion collecting money by the truckloads, but that's no fun, one person can only spend so much. I have decided to limit myself to $10 million if I ever get close to that. That's 100,000 /year for the next 100 years, hell I could buy a nice 500,000 doller house and I'd still have enough money for the next 95 years, I cannot fathom some one actually spending over 100 million dollers in one lifetime, on just themselves.

And yet there are those talented enough to do just that

My sreen doesn't like this it's going all retarded.

Sorry, didn't mean for that to actually be posted, my screen farted up and I noticed that where I typed it became nrmal, so I started typing random stuff, and then the creen sorta *Splige* and went all grey and I tried clicking things, and I hit the post reply button.

OboeGuru
06-07-2004, 5:42 PM
This never would have been a problem if someone hadn't whined endlessly about Stoner having a bunch of highest scores.

And if people hadn't eaten up the whining and started siding with the whiner(s), we wouldn't be in the nasty situation we have now.

None of you have any idea how irritated I am that this whole Arcade scores business got to the point that it's at right now, so NOBODY talk about irritation.

By the way, I'm so irritated with everyone that keeps prodding the situation that I WILL tempban the next person (or people) that bring this up. Yes, I am essentially saying: drop the arguments on the whole ordeal or you can have a time-out. The arguments are starting to get ridiculous and childish from the people siding with the whiner(s).

Get on with your arcade gaming lives, and to borrow a phrase from a popular sports radio show around where I live: Just shut up!

Graeme
06-07-2004, 5:53 PM
I thought that the ability to temp ban people was restricted to Senior Moderators and Administrators, no?

Windwalker
06-07-2004, 5:56 PM
I dont know what the F this thread is about, but since it says arcade can you add this arcade game then?

http://2flashgames.com/f/f-619.htm

OboeGuru
06-07-2004, 6:03 PM
I have no desire to detail how it will be done (to preserve anonymity of involved parties), just realize that it will.

If you look, there are no Senior Mods. In essense, we do not follow typical Staff structure anymore. That's all I'm entitled to say.

I dont know what the F this thread is about, but since it says arcade can you add this arcade game then?

http://2flashgames.com/f/f-619.htm
Games can only be added from a special database of games.

To be put into the arcade, games have to undergo a modification process to allow for the submission of scores to the arcade script.

Whiteknight
06-07-2004, 6:09 PM
I think this arcade seems to be more trouble than it's worth. Sure it provides some entertainment, but with this much fuss over it...

It was directed at Whiteknight, who spent a period of some 7300 seconds getting his latest top score in Equilibrium. If you do the math, it comes out to over two hours of play. I just wanted to clear you up on this. First off, it was not that much. It was roughly and hour and a half. In Equilibrium, I score at a faster rate. The reason that it was so long was because several times, I put the game on pause (after dying, leaving it) to do other things, like eat and tramp. I did not spend that much time on the game, I lose interest, which is why I put it on pause, then I pick it up again later to play. This is so that I do not have to start over again.

Maybe we should just get rid of scores alltogether. That would mean that the arcade would just be used for fun, nothing else.

assassin_666
06-07-2004, 6:27 PM
maybe we should get rid of it all it does now is annoy me sinse there is no pernament high scores

Semi
06-07-2004, 6:29 PM
Theres no reason to remove a game just because I got an unobtainably high score. The ladder resets after 15 days anyways, and I am not using my little proggy to steal the awards and whatnot. I am merely doing it to practice my rusty visual basic skills, and now that its finished, theres no reason for me to continue using it (and i wont either). I am not hacking into anything whatsoever, so it will not harm wb more than anyone else playing it normally.

Thus, don't make any changes because of me. I am merely a programmer who wants to brush up, and is finished. I havent done it since, and Ive played everything else legitly.

AJ
06-07-2004, 6:45 PM
The game itself has a large loophole within it, hence its removal.
THIS ENDS NOW, folks.

I want feedback and issues in here, all your little squabbles are to find their way off my forums, else you'll be banned for however long seems fitting. capice?

Carnage
06-07-2004, 6:50 PM
The game itself has a large loophole within it, hence its removal.
THIS ENDS NOW, folks.

I want feedback and issues in here, all your little squabbles are to find their way off my forums, else you'll be banned for however long seems fitting. capice?

Everything but capice...

What's that, some kind of rice? O_o

Battlecruiser
06-07-2004, 7:18 PM
Ok, Whatever. I had meant it as friendly competition in the beginning but it turned into something else. I would respond to your comment Stoner, but apparently I am not allowed to because my comment will be immediatly deleted because it is considered flaming and off topic. For some reason your comment stayed which I don't understand.

Fenguin
06-07-2004, 7:33 PM
I am amazed at what has happened. A seemingly innocent upgrade to the forum has led to this whole mess. Why oh why?

Please, guys. Let's just forget this whole thing. I'm sure we all had some sort of faults that may have indirectly led to this ordeal, but I think it's time for this to stop. I realize that the argument now transcends petty bickering over a high score, but it's time we realized that such an argument would only serve to destroy the forum.

I will thus close this thread, since any further discussion would only worsen the tension. I will make a new suggestions thread; guys, try to keep it civilized in there. :)

Members, just remember: none of you are at fault anymore. This whole thing is over. I hope nothing like this ever happens again.

Thank you.