Battle.net S4 Finals

[Nedech]

Taken from; http://www.wcreplays.com/scene.php?get=729

"This weekend the Battle.net Season 4 Grand Final is taking place in Cologne, Germany. 16 players from all over the world have managed to qualify themselves in either the European, American or Asian regional qualifier. All of them will be competing for the first place of $10,000. The top 2 of each group will advance to the double elimination bracket. All games today will be played in a best-of-three format."

Here we have the group results;

Group A

MYM]Lucifer
4K^ToD
SK.Fire
verGe.Shriek

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifverGe.Shriek
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/DE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifSK.Fire
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/DE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifSK.Fire
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifverGe.Shriek
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/DE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifSK.Fire [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifverGe.Shriek

Group B

4K^Grubby
BeT-Sweet
verGe.Sonkie
verGe.Glaive

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gif verGe.GLaiVe
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifBeT-Sweet [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifverGe.SonKie
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifverGe.SonKie
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifBeT-Sweet [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gif verGe.GLaiVe
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifBeT-Sweet
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gif verGe.GLaiVe [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifverGe.SonKie

Group C

NoA)ShowBu
ReiGn
SK.Insomnia
PiG.KiWiKaKi

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/BG.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifSK.Insomnia [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gif ReiGn
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifNoA)ShowBu [2:1] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/CA.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gifPiG.KiWiKaKi
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/BG.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifSK.Insomnia [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/CA.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gifPiG.KiWiKaKi
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifNoA)ShowBu [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gif ReiGn
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/BG.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifSK.Insomnia [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifNoA)ShowBu
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/CA.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gifPiG.KiWiKaKi [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gif ReiGn

Group D

WE.IGE.ReMinD
Mouz.SaSe
wNv.FoV
verGe.LongWalk

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifverGe.LongWalk [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifwNv.FoV
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifMouz.SaSe
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifverGe.LongWalk [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifMouz.SaSe
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifwNv.FoV
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/US.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifverGe.LongWalk [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifMouz.SaSe [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifwNv.FoV

Nothing to fancy here, i was hoping that Glaive would've qualified but he can't take on Grubby and Sweet, he just can't.

Same with Insomnia, he really sucks at the moment. He used to be really good and now he's on a losing streak.

And here we have the finals;


http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifReiGn
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifMouz.SaSe</SPAN> [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifBeT-Sweet
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD [2:1] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifNoA)ShowBu


Winner bracket round 2

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby [2:1] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD [2:1] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD


Winner brackt final
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD


Loser bracket round 1

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifReiGn [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifMouz.SaSe
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifBeT-Sweet [2:0] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gifNoA)ShowBu


Loser bracket round 2

http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/SE.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifMouz.SaSe [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifBeT-Sweet [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer


Loser bracket round 3
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/FR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/human.gif4K^ToD [0:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer


Loser bracket final
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer [2:1] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/NL.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/orc.gif4K^Grubby


Grand final
http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/undead.gifMYM]Lucifer [1:2] http://www.wcreplays.com/images/flags/KR.gif http://www.wcreplays.com/images/nightelf.gifWE.IGE.ReMinD

As a swede, i wanted to see SaSe in the Grand final, but no such luck.;)
Grubby is a mean guy, i lost around 800gold and rank 10 on GG.net thanks to him. Surprisingly, he lost to Remind and eventually to Lucifer. The third game against Lucifer was just awful, anyone saw that? He camped in his base while buying healing scrolls instead of killing Lucifer's army and stop the production of destroyers.
The games he had against Remind were great though. Remind is defenitly better than Moon at the moment.

My predictions and hopes is that Lucifer wins the final. All in Lucifer.

I was wrong. ReMinD won. Bullshit.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

I was wrong. ReMinD won. Bullshit.

ReMinD was on fire throughout. The first game against Grubby was one of the most incredible games I've ever had the honour of witnessing, with fantastic play from both players, but Grubby was simply playing at a different level to ReMinD for those 20 minutes.

Afterwards, however, he seemed to have an extreme drop in form all of a sudden. It happens to everyone, and I'm a little gutted that he didn't win (I always enjoy seeing Orcs win big tournaments - Grubby has never won a BNet Ladder Season, despite winning tens of other major tourneys) but when I saw it was a Lucifer/ReMinD final, I expected ReMinD to win.

[Nedech]

I'd say ReMinD has been on fire for a good chunk of time. He's the new Moon, if i may say so. Besides, he's a god when it comes to mirror, which Moon is not.

[Prozerran]

Remind is no Moon, though I have to say I've kept my eye on him. WCReplays has an interview with Remind posted, it was up for quite a while. From what I remember from the interview, Remind respects Moon a great deal and has hoped to reach a point in his gaming where he could rise above Moon and win a tournament. Remind is the next Remind, and his gameplay proves it.

[h0bgawblin]

Shit, i've missed a lot *sniff*, ok so basicly up and coming prodigy player. season four is under way. Remind comes before tod, simply because remind is a damn dirty elf. My vote goes with tod.

I find it kinda wierd how sky and moon are not to be found in this tourniment. What ever though, if they were in every tourniment, no other players would be allowed to win. I'd like to see this remind guy, if anyone has a vod.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

Shit, i've missed a lot *sniff*, ok so basicly up and coming prodigy player. season four is under way. Remind comes before tod, simply because remind is a damn dirty elf. My vote goes with tod.

I find it kinda wierd how sky and moon are not to be found in this tourniment. What ever though, if they were in every tourniment, no other players would be allowed to win. I'd like to see this remind guy, if anyone has a vod.

Sky couldn't make it to Germany because of Visa restrictions.

[GroG]

You guys do know remind has been playing for a long time, he isn't new or anything.

I'm glad Lucifer made it as far as he did, he's a great player and his hero micro is simply put, amazing. By far the best UD I've ever watched, and I've watched several UD style's. I wouldn't even attempt to do half the strategies he does, simply because his micro is far superior to anything I've ever seen.

Too bad he didn't win it, that would have been nice.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

and his hero micro is simply put, amazing

Grubby surrounded his Death Knight after losing both heroes. :)

And yes, ReMinD has been playing for a long time, the big deal about him being so good is that he didn't have any extreme "talent" - he worked hard to get to where he is.

[h0bgawblin]

All players at that level work extremely hard to get where they are. I don't know whether or not he did more, but still. I can only imagine moons play hours, as well as the thought he puts into his gaming. Same for some of the big name players. My friend has 300 days played on wow, that's probably nothing in comparison. At that level, the word life is only used to discribe the hp of a unit. Not to shoot down what your saying redrag, but I just read that and starting thinking about who hadn't worked hard. Perhaps you can give an example?

[RedRagToAnOrc]

All players at that level work extremely hard to get where they are. I don't know whether or not he did more, but still. I can only imagine moons play hours, as well as the thought he puts into his gaming. Same for some of the big name players. My friend has 300 days played on wow, that's probably nothing in comparison. At that level, the word life is only used to discribe the hp of a unit. Not to shoot down what your saying redrag, but I just read that and starting thinking about who hadn't worked hard. Perhaps you can give an example?

You'd be surprised. There was an interview with fnatic.Bjarke (the Scandinavian Human player) once, where he was asked about his beginnings in Warcraft 3.

His answer was something along the lines of "I used to play it for fun, but then I hit second place on solo ladder and I started playing seriously at that point". ReMinD is the exact opposite, in that he started off largely like you and I.

Some people have talent. Look at FPS games, (although aim is slightly more talent-based than Warcraft,) and there's the same effect there - I've never had a particularly good aim, so I'm not too good at FPS games. My brother is generally good at them, because his aim is very good.

[Monty]

In fact, didn't ReMinD say that Soju was a better player than he was, and that he'd learnt more from Soju than anyone else? Or something along those lines...

Anyway, the point is that ReMinD worked exceptionally hard on his game, honing what were usually simple strategies to no end. If Moon is known for his flambouyance, then ReMinD is known for his consistency.

I think the ReMinD versus Swain BO5 was when people stated to take notice of him. He definitely likes this B.net tournament, though.

[Prozerran]

In an article I read about 8 months ago, Remind recalled spending time with Todd, Soju, and a few others at a major tournament (I believe the finals for the World Championship or something big) including SK.Insomnia. I believe he was with WE.IGE at that time, and he was rooming with several players we would give just about anything to play one game with just to lose and hope for feedback on how to improve. Long-winded sentence? Yep. At any rate, I think the article is in the WCReplay interview archives if anyone wants to take a look and post a link. I'm too lazy.