Ktan
01-15-2007, 1:54 PM
I posted this on Relic News. Have a gander, will you please?
Link (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=133296)
I've not played 40K (TT) in ages so it's been rather hard to test out my army lists. However, a while back I fell in love with Immortals after proxying some for my unfortunate first army list. I'm going to put some down and ask for different types of feedback from each one:
(Sorry for a lack of pts cost, just trying to stay on the right side of that rule)
HQ
Lord: Orb+Veil
ELITES:
5 Flayed Ones (no df)
TROOPS
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
FAST ATTACK:
4 Destroyers
HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith
1 Tomb Spyder (2 CCW)
What I found with this list was a distinct tack of Long range firepower that just led to me getting swamped in CC. It didn't help I often played a nids player :P
I also found the Destroyers, although handy, ultimately had no impact since they were wiped out very quickly due to unit size.
Old Spydie was useful in the odd pinch so I'm not so abject to Spyders.
Is there a way I could have played this list well? The irony is, I bulked it with warriors to AVOID the phase out that always occured :P
Came some time ago. Due to my losing streak, I became disillusioned with my 'crons. Maybe I was playing badly. Nevertheless, I perservered (or perhaps was pushed). For a couple of games, I decided to drop two squads or Warriors. My memory is a little hazy, so forgive me if I don't total it up correctly.
HQ
Lord: Orb+Veil
ELITES:
10 Immortals
TROOPS
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
FAST ATTACK:
10 Scarabs
4 Destroyers (?)
HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith
1 Tomb Spyder (2 CCW)(?)
I found that the Scarabs formed a vital defensive screen against those blasted assualts and the Immortals excelled themselves, taking out a Hive Tyrant and a Carnifex to boot. I feel quite confident with this list but got less time to test it.
HQ
Lord (guess what he has...) Ord+Veil
ELITES
10 Immortals
10 Immortals
TROOPS
10 Warriors
10 Warriors
FAST ATTACK
3 Wratihs OR 10 Scarabs
HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith.
Somehow I feel that the Scarabs would be a better investment
HQ
Lord
ELITES
20 Imms
10 Pari's
TROOPS
20 War's
FAST ATTACK
10 Scarabs or 6 if I give the Lord an Orb(...duh)
1
HQ
Lord, 200 pt wonder with Orb + Veil
TROOPS
10 Warriors
10 Warriors
ELITES
10 Imms
6 Pariahs (I don't know why. I'd happily drop them)
FAST ATTACK
5 Destroyers
HEAVY SUPPORT
2 Heavy Destroyers
2
HQ
Lord 1 Veil+Orb
Lord 2 Orb, Veil, Destroyer Body, Phylactery, Gaze of Flame
ELITES:
6 Flayed Ones (Maybe Warriors or Scarabs instead.)
TROOPS
10 Warriors
10 Warriors
FAST ATTACK
3 Wraiths
5 Destroyers
5 Destroyers
3
HQ
Lord Orb, Phy, Gaze of Flame
TROOPS
12 Warriors
12 Warriors
12 Warriors
ELITES
10 Immortals
3 Spyders.
I also feel like I should work some Heavy Destroyers in to counter things like Wraithlords and Carnifexes which don't have an AV but are rather tough.
Link (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=133296)
I've not played 40K (TT) in ages so it's been rather hard to test out my army lists. However, a while back I fell in love with Immortals after proxying some for my unfortunate first army list. I'm going to put some down and ask for different types of feedback from each one:
(Sorry for a lack of pts cost, just trying to stay on the right side of that rule)
HQ
Lord: Orb+Veil
ELITES:
5 Flayed Ones (no df)
TROOPS
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
FAST ATTACK:
4 Destroyers
HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith
1 Tomb Spyder (2 CCW)
What I found with this list was a distinct tack of Long range firepower that just led to me getting swamped in CC. It didn't help I often played a nids player :P
I also found the Destroyers, although handy, ultimately had no impact since they were wiped out very quickly due to unit size.
Old Spydie was useful in the odd pinch so I'm not so abject to Spyders.
Is there a way I could have played this list well? The irony is, I bulked it with warriors to AVOID the phase out that always occured :P
Came some time ago. Due to my losing streak, I became disillusioned with my 'crons. Maybe I was playing badly. Nevertheless, I perservered (or perhaps was pushed). For a couple of games, I decided to drop two squads or Warriors. My memory is a little hazy, so forgive me if I don't total it up correctly.
HQ
Lord: Orb+Veil
ELITES:
10 Immortals
TROOPS
10 Warriors (no df)
10 Warriors (no df)
FAST ATTACK:
10 Scarabs
4 Destroyers (?)
HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith
1 Tomb Spyder (2 CCW)(?)
I found that the Scarabs formed a vital defensive screen against those blasted assualts and the Immortals excelled themselves, taking out a Hive Tyrant and a Carnifex to boot. I feel quite confident with this list but got less time to test it.
HQ
Lord (guess what he has...) Ord+Veil
ELITES
10 Immortals
10 Immortals
TROOPS
10 Warriors
10 Warriors
FAST ATTACK
3 Wratihs OR 10 Scarabs
HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith.
Somehow I feel that the Scarabs would be a better investment
HQ
Lord
ELITES
20 Imms
10 Pari's
TROOPS
20 War's
FAST ATTACK
10 Scarabs or 6 if I give the Lord an Orb(...duh)
1
HQ
Lord, 200 pt wonder with Orb + Veil
TROOPS
10 Warriors
10 Warriors
ELITES
10 Imms
6 Pariahs (I don't know why. I'd happily drop them)
FAST ATTACK
5 Destroyers
HEAVY SUPPORT
2 Heavy Destroyers
2
HQ
Lord 1 Veil+Orb
Lord 2 Orb, Veil, Destroyer Body, Phylactery, Gaze of Flame
ELITES:
6 Flayed Ones (Maybe Warriors or Scarabs instead.)
TROOPS
10 Warriors
10 Warriors
FAST ATTACK
3 Wraiths
5 Destroyers
5 Destroyers
3
HQ
Lord Orb, Phy, Gaze of Flame
TROOPS
12 Warriors
12 Warriors
12 Warriors
ELITES
10 Immortals
3 Spyders.
I also feel like I should work some Heavy Destroyers in to counter things like Wraithlords and Carnifexes which don't have an AV but are rather tough.