MSPAINT vs. Photoshop

[WeekendLazyness]

So I was messing around in mspaint when I realized I could create the kickass siggy and avatar I've switched to. I don't have Photoshop, and I haven't used it in awhile. But seriously, why do you need it when you can make stuff like this in mspaint?

http://www.techepics.com/files/beautiful_mspaint_artwork_t.jpg

[BlackHawk]

I use Photoshop because the interface is a hundred times easier to use and it is just a much more advanced program. Of course I am very surprised you managed to do that to the picture in MS Paint :o.

The only time I ever use MS Paint is to save something as a .bmp. The only time I have to do this (so far) is when I make a skin for Launchy (www.launchy.net) which isn't very often xD. For some reason Photoshop doesn't have the option to save as a bmp, or, at least, the option I found was very bad and didn't work well :\.

[Gladstone]

So I was messing around in mspaint when I realized I could create the kickass siggy and avatar I've switched to. I don't have Photoshop, and I haven't used it in awhile. But seriously, why do you need it when you can make stuff like this in mspaint?

http://www.techepics.com/files/beautiful_mspaint_artwork_t.jpg


O.O, wow you got some skills here... but people use photoshop because its easier to use, and has more tools as the above comment stated ^^

[The_Maker]

Photoshop is popular because of the bling things you can create with it, paint has no (real) GUI, Effects, Text Tool, Gradients etc.

Paint is well... paint. =P

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

He didn't made that painting, unless WeekendLazyness is Jim Warrens. [x (http://images.google.com/images?q=paintings+mspaint&ndsp=18&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=tp0&start=0&sa=N)]
Of course anyone can make a master peice, it just takes a lot of time. But there's better stuff out there that makes things much faster, which makes all the other stuff...kinda obsolet.

I certainly don't want to live in a house made of straw instead of bricks and I don't want to make a lighting effect without Photoshop instead of Mspaint.

[Modred]

Photoshop, by far. Where's the comparison? "You can make stuff like this in MS Paint." And how many people have the time to make something like that in MS Paint? Or the patience?

Here are just a few things about Photoshop:
More color modes (RGB, CMYK, Greyscale, B&W)
More control over color depth
More output formats
More control over output formats (changing amount of compression, what metadata is saved, etc)
Levels & Curves to fine tune color balance and contrast
Can "Undo" all the way back to when the file was opened
More painting tools
Customizable brushes for said tools

And those are just areas that it compares to MS Paint. We could get into the useful things that MS Paint comes nowhere close to competing.

Layers
Filters
Masks
Transparency
Dodge, Burn, and Smudge tools
Sharpen and Blur
Anti-aliasing

Should I continue?

And cost isn't really a matter either, as all of the features I just listed are also available in the GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/), which is completely free.

If you're just doing some little piddly thing, then sure MS Paint can be fine. But if you're seriously creating, you need something more powerful; or else an ungodly amount of determination.

[Aqo]

Photoshop is an image-creating program.
Paint is an image-editing program.

I use both, a lot, and both are useful.
If I wanted, for example, to resave 100 bmps as pngs, I'd use paint and not photoshop because it loads faster.
If I wanted to create a siggy, I'd create its parts in photoshop, then paste into paint and add them together so that they look good.
Etc

Gimp is nice too.

For example in my current signature, I created the base text in paint, by making the blue text several times on top of each other and than the white text above it. I added the blur in the corners in Gimp, than put back into paint, added the two lines and black text, moved it to be exactly where I want it, and saved.

[Darkslayer633]

Photoshop is an image-creating program.
Paint is an image-editing program.

I use both, a lot, and both are useful.
If I wanted, for example, to resave 100 bmps as pngs, I'd use paint and not photoshop because it loads faster.
If I wanted to create a siggy, I'd create its parts in photoshop, then paste into paint and add them together so that they look good.
Etc

Gimp is nice too.

For example in my current signature, I created the base text in paint, by making the blue text several times on top of each other and than the white text above it. I added the blur in the corners in Gimp, than put back into paint, added the two lines and black text, moved it to be exactly where I want it, and saved.

could you not have done all that in GIMP/Photoshop?

Just as easy, less transfering

[Magmaniac]

Microsoft paint because fuck you.

Actually I use a program called paintdotnet that i think is better than either.

[Aqo]

could you not have done all that in GIMP/Photoshop?
Just as easy, less transfering
It's a hell lot faster to make texts and move them around in Paint than it is in photoshop, and transfering is just Ctrl+A,Ctrl+C,Ctrl+V which takes like 1 second each time for a total of 2 times.

[TinyDancer]

GIMP is what I use. Free and effective. Plus they don't make photoshop for Linux.

[Ktan]

While I admire the effort that some people put into MS paint and do like how quickly it loads, ultimately if you want to create something quickly and effeciently you need a more powerful tool.

I have the GIMP and PSP 8 on my PC. PSP came with it and I dl'd the gimp, hearing you could make animated gifs with it. I tend to use PSP for making anything when I ever do make it because I learnt its interface first and the speed at which it loads quickly is enough of a trade off for the extra gubbins it has.

I've not really used Gimp, mainly due to laoding times. I should try to one day though, I expect it will be more powerful.

[U-238]

I use GIMP too mainly because it's more powerful than paint. And I don't have the money to spend on PS or PSP and I'm really not interested in trying "other means" to get it. From what I've seen GIMP's just as good and I like the UI a little better. Seems more friendly.

[Neo]

When there exists Paint.NET (www.getpaint.net), why even bother with Photoshop?

Paint.NET is incredibly cool, and nifty. My mother was able to use it right out of the box -- which is saying a lot. Even my grandfather has been able to use it pretty easily. It also weighs in at like a little less then 3 megs, and is FREE. Plus, its a bit less funky then GIMP =P

People who "paint" with MSPaint make me sad =/ Its like, such an incredible waste of time.

That said, I still use Photoshop, cause im lazy.

-Kupa

[Magmaniac]

That's what I said, NEO, in not so many words.

I use paint.net for everything, and I am very... bad... at that sort of thing. It makes it easier for me. :)

[Modred]

Neo, change the link to getpaint.net, not getpaint.com. ;)

Anyway, Paint.NET sounds quite good. I'll have to give it at try.

[Tenebrae]

My avatar was done using MS Paint.

[DragonPaladin]

I use Paint because I can use my screen captures with it, without having to fiddle around a whole bunch of times.