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Mafiozi
05-25-2004, 3:31 PM
If you were around for its unveiling at the Tokyo Game Show in 2002, you might recall that back then it was supposed to tell a new story, just after the conclusion of the Brood War (http://www.1up.com/article2/0,2053,1312578,00.asp) expansion. Now, however, its events take place concurrently with the original StarCraft (http://www.1up.com/article2/0,2053,1312574,00.asp), beginning with the Mar Sara infestation that introduced humanity to the Zerg.


i red this in gamespy preview....:\ So its not betwen BW and SC2 now...:cry:

Icemant90
05-25-2004, 4:59 PM
O right. I like perspective stories.

BSTRhino
05-25-2004, 6:36 PM
You're kidding? Have you got a link?

Mafiozi
05-25-2004, 7:10 PM
It was writen in the gamespy review which ar on news page of starcraft.org

Battlecruiser
05-25-2004, 7:12 PM
It was writen in the gamespy review which ar on news page of starcraft.org
Haha, BSTRhino is the person who posts the news at starcraft.org. If it had said that he would have known.

Mafiozi
05-25-2004, 7:13 PM
I know, but that doesnt mean hee readed the previews...
Personoally i hope that author made that up himself judging from the Mar Sara screeens, and that this is not true..I hope there will be a new sotry..:(

Mafiozi
05-25-2004, 7:17 PM
ooops..sorry not the gamespy one but this one http://www.1up.com/article2/0,2053,1592428,00.asp

Visions_of_Khas
05-25-2004, 7:39 PM
I think what they are doing is actually retelling the story through the eyes of the warriors there, not actually rewriting the story.

Hmm, this made me think about something. Perhaps Mengsk was partially correct when he spoke of the Zerg as being an experiment of the Confederacy. Though we know the Zerg were created by the Xel'Naga, we also know the Confed scientists worked a bit with the Zerg and their ghosts. Perhaps they were trying to control the Zerg and use them on Chau Sara, as per Mengsk's assumption of coming in later and acting as heroes? Or perhaps its as simple as the Zerg severing all communications to and from the planet, to solve why the Confed didn;t rescue the colony...

BSTRhino
05-25-2004, 7:54 PM
Heh, I read like, four of the previews, including the gamespy preview. For the other ones I just skimmed. But I didn't notice any funny things when I read the gamespy one, so that's why I asked.

About a story where the Zerg are being controlled, again... I'm getting really bored of those storylines. I hope it's not that, again.

Maegtelluma
05-25-2004, 8:47 PM
The zerg controlling is no good. It was ok the first time...but...yeah.So wait...is it really going from the beginning? That doesnt seem to make much sense, it would just be a retelling of the original campaigns. I dont like the sound of that...

Visions_of_Khas
05-25-2004, 11:17 PM
Hopefully, they'll only be "recapping" the events of the previous StarCraft games.

Now, as for controlling the Zerg, I was just speculating. We know the confeds have been doing experiments with the Zerg and their ghosts. Whether or not it was to see if the Zerg were controllable is debatable. They may have been doing it merely to find out more about the Zerg. This may be where the Overlords come in: scientists are trying to gain a deeper understanding of psionic energies.

I was just wondering if they had at least partially succeded. Mengsk said he thought the Zerg were actually made by the corrupt government. Perhaps all they did was plant a few psi emitters on Chau Sara to see if they worked on the Zerg.

Mafiozi
05-26-2004, 3:12 AM
BSTRhino i gave the link :)
I hope that author made that up himself :)

RelinaIonna
05-26-2004, 1:34 PM
In the "Enslaver Campaign" Alan Sheezar uses Ghosts to control the Zerg Brood with the help of a Protoss artifact. But in the book "Liberty's Crusade" Kerrigan explains that ghosts can sence the Zerg communication but its mind splitting to consentrate on it, let alone control them. Khadarin Crystals are the most likely artifact; Templar use them to help expand there mental abilites.

Schwitzer
05-26-2004, 9:33 PM
But in the book "Liberty's Crusade" Kerrigan explains that ghosts can sence the Zerg communication but its mind splitting to consentrate on it, let alone control them.
Is that so? That's very interesting... hmm...

Visions_of_Khas
05-26-2004, 9:51 PM
Makes me think of Borg Cubes, with the endless whispering and constant voices, all garbled beyond comprehension. And yet it drives a drone nearly mad without them...

Ark-templarius
05-26-2004, 9:59 PM
Unless the story continues into Brood War and ends at a critical juncture between Brood War and SC II, some things aren't going to add up. Namely, the Protoss Vindicator and Terran Assault Dropship. :/

Battlecruiser
05-26-2004, 10:25 PM
In the "Enslaver Campaign" Alan Sheezar uses Ghosts to control the Zerg Brood with the help of a Protoss artifact. But in the book "Liberty's Crusade" Kerrigan explains that ghosts can sence the Zerg communication but its mind splitting to consentrate on it, let alone control them. Khadarin Crystals are the most likely artifact; Templar use them to help expand there mental abilites.
You should write an article on this and send it in to starcraft.org. Your idea sounds interesting.

Visions_of_Khas
05-26-2004, 10:30 PM
Mojo himself said that the Ghosts were using Khaydarin Amulets to take control of the Cerebrates. Though I must wonder, how did they do it? Was it because Ghosts and Zerg have similar psi energy patterns? (Like DTs and Zerg. This is what allows Zerg to home in on Ghosts.)

Ark-templarius
05-26-2004, 10:39 PM
I remember someone at BF (might have been Kimera or Mythology) who said it might have to do with the dark entropy generated by Ghosts because of their training.

Visions_of_Khas
05-26-2004, 11:16 PM
I think I actually came up with a theory about that. ^_^

This may be how it is: Aiuran Protoss, connected as they are to one another via the COmmunal Link, draw their powers from ambient psi energies, ie Creation. However, Dark Templar severed their nerve appendages, thus can no longer take power from Creation. Thus, they were forced to draw upon the power of the Void to sustain themsevles. Also, Terrans are likewise alone.

But what about Zerg? There are trillions of them, all connected! Well, yes and no. For the most part, the Swarms are slaves to brood masters called Cerebrates. Well, what of cerebrates? They are all interconnected beings! Well, yes and no. Certainly, to us, they appear to be independant being connecyed by a common psychic link. But also consider the fact that they are all separate facets of an even greater being, the Overmind. So, in affect, there is one entity in the Swarms, the Overmind.

However, what about Kerrigan? She does not contain the Cerebrates' respective personas, as far as we know. Then again, perhaps she does store them.

Okay, but if the Cerebrates are all one and the same, why are they still around after the Overmind was destroyed? A good question indeed. Perhaps the separate personas of the Cerebrates were cut loose when the Overmind's connectivity was destroyed. The period of confusion after the Overmind was obliterated may have been a psychic version of a rubber band reforming (After it has been stretched [natural connectivity of the Swarms] it violently assumes a "regular" shape once let go. This may have led to their mass psychic confusion; they had to get used to being independant in entities before they could regroup).

Still, this doesn not necessarily explain why they were able to resurrect in the period of time between the Overmind's death and when Kerrigan reigned in the broods. Perhaps the dead Cerebrate personas would find they had a cusion in their fellow Cerebrates, which would take their knowledge and place it in another shell.

Confusing you yet? ^_^;;

I should write an article about this for StarCraft.org, too!

Ark-templarius
05-26-2004, 11:26 PM
Um.. okie. A bit confusing, but very good nonetheless. Oo;

(btw, I'm the one who just recently added you to my MSNIM list since we seem to be mutual friends of Adam.)

Visions_of_Khas
05-27-2004, 6:56 PM
That MSN won't do you much good. After a virus got onto my comp, MSN hasnt been cooperating. AIM and Y!IM, oddly enough, do work.

Now, if there is something you don't quite get, ask. I'll try to explain to the best of my (obviously lacking) ability. ^_^

Dr_Inferno
05-27-2004, 8:03 PM
All the pics for tis game are of marines. If there's so much hype about the zerg, maybe Blizzard should release a few pictures of 'em

Visions_of_Khas
05-27-2004, 8:56 PM
They want to surprise us, I blieve. Fellow Terrans we are more used to, thus there will be less to spoil with them. Zerg and Protoss? Well, if the few things we've seen thus far are so awesome, just imagine about the other two speices... or three, if we're lucky...

Dorkz
06-18-2004, 4:27 PM
I personally disagree with almost everything about SC Ghost, but the story can hardly change. It'll just be the same plot with a few tweaks to make it seem like you are in a different view of the situation (which is true).

Nahotnoj
06-18-2004, 5:21 PM
I think what they are doing is actually retelling the story through the eyes of the warriors there, not actually rewriting the story.

Hmm, this made me think about something. Perhaps Mengsk was partially correct when he spoke of the Zerg as being an experiment of the Confederacy. Though we know the Zerg were created by the Xel'Naga, we also know the Confed scientists worked a bit with the Zerg and their ghosts. Perhaps they were trying to control the Zerg and use them on Chau Sara, as per Mengsk's assumption of coming in later and acting as heroes? Or perhaps its as simple as the Zerg severing all communications to and from the planet, to solve why the Confed didn;t rescue the colony...
The zerg where made by the xel'naga? I thought they just created the protoss...

where does it say that the zerg where created by the Xel'Naga?

Frattimonde
06-18-2004, 5:26 PM
The zerg where made by the xel'naga? I thought they just created the protoss...

where does it say that the zerg where created by the Xel'Naga? http://www.blizzarduniverse.net

Try this site.

I think had It something about the SC stories.

Visions_of_Khas
06-18-2004, 8:56 PM
In the StarCraft manual, first page in the Protoss race history. However, if you don't have the manual, StarCraftLegacy does. Check out the StarCraft Story section.

PowderBB3D
06-26-2004, 9:05 PM
The Protoss evolved independantly. The Xel'Naga came in at a some point during the natural evolutionary process and began to lean on them, silently coaxing them towards a particular evolutionary cycle (probably introducing different stimuli at critical junctures throughout their growth).

The Zerg were almost entirely created by the Xel'Naga. At first they were just worms on the planet Zerus, looking like the larvae that you see in-game now, albeit smaller. The Xel'Naga literally genetically engineered them to be able to infest other animals on Zerus and take control of their bodies. The Xel'Naga also created the overmind to rule all the Zerg. They were, in a much more literal sense than the Protoss, created by the Xel'Naga.

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