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GSG-9
02-08-2004, 7:22 AM
If Kerrigan wasn't left in the platform to be infested, how much would it affect the StarCraft universe? In Brood War, Daggoth and the others merged into an Overmind, which was taken over by the UED. If Kerrigan wasn't present, I doubt it would be the 'end' of the Zerg, with them being in control of the UED. And of course, regardless of Kerrigan, Duran would still be out there, experementing on the hybrids. What are your thoughts?

Antius
02-08-2004, 8:35 AM
I think it's pretty much pointless to speculate... since it happened. Eh?

GSG-9
02-08-2004, 8:46 AM
Actually, this is a thread to make our brains work. However, should you persist, start speculating on StarCraft 2. That should be more interesting.

Schwitzer
02-08-2004, 9:48 AM
If Kerrigan was never infested, than neither would Schwitzer have been ;)

I'm not sure how to answer this question properly; everything would be entirely different. I guess the short answer is that Blizzard would have robbed themselves of one of the more interesting twists in the StarCraft plot...

Staind
02-08-2004, 9:51 AM
Maybe, but Kerrigan really wasn't that interesting.

SunTzu
02-08-2004, 12:42 PM
All I know is that if Kerrigan wasn't infested Mr. Jimmy would be getting some on the side instead of having acid spores shot at him day to day. ;)

mcflurry_1982
02-08-2004, 3:49 PM
Maybe, but Kerrigan really wasn't that interesting.
kerrigan wasnt that interesting becuase they didnt develope her character enough. if she were not infested the ued would not have been able to take the overmind in BW. Raynors group would be more powerful and the zerg would be weaker. BW's storyline would have sucked major becuase it would just be a repeat of SC.

Visions_of_Khas
02-08-2004, 5:59 PM
If Kerrigan were left on the platform above Tarsonis, the entire war would be different.

If she were not infested, it would be unlikely that the Cerebrate would have been created, for its main task was to protect the Queen of Blades and serve as commander for her brood. Without the Cerebrate, the Swarms would not have been able to make the progress that they did on Aiur. And, if she hadn't been infested, Tassadar and the Dark Templar would have done far more damage to the Swarms, for Kerrigan's powers would not have been unleashed, which is what allowed her to sense their presnece on Char. Though it would probably be inevitable until the Overmind discovered the secret base of the Protoss on Char, many more Cerebrate would have been destroyed, hampering the Zerg severely. With the command structure of the Zer ashambles, the Protoss of Aiur would have been able to outmaneuver the Zerg Swarm, perhaps even route them on Char.

But let's say that Tassadar was indeed discovered (though he would have still done a considerable amount of damage to the Zerg hierarchy). The Zerg forces weeded out the Protoss presence, eliminating that threat. From there, the Zerg would rebuild their forces, and invade Aiur. But since the Cerebrate wasn't created, they would have a long, gruleing battle on their claws, but they probably would have succeded anyways. THe Executor would fight them as was done in the Protoss campaign, and the fleet would be sent to Char to find and arrest Tassadar. However, the Executor would side with Tassadar, help the Dark Templar, go back to Aiur, fight the Conclave, and destroy the Overmind, with similar opposition and results (though it might be a bit easier, since the Zerg lost many Cerebrates). Instead of 70% of the Homeworld's population destroyed, perhaps around only around 60%, or 50%. Nevertheless, the Protoss would probably have to regroup at Shakuras, and fight the Zerg there. However, Kerrigan wouldn't be there to tell of the new Overmind, and when the fleet of the Executor reached Char in search of the Khalis, they may have a harder time in securing the crystal. Or not, seeing as how there would be only a scant few Zerg Cerebrates left to defend it, aswell as a larger Templar fleet. The Protoss would have used the Xel'Naga Temple to scour the world's soil of Zerg, and would rebuild. However, since the Khalai wouldn't be as weak since a fewer amount of their people were killed, the peace with the Dark Temoplar probably wouldn't be as peaceful, since they wouldn't have to depend on the Shadow Hunters as much.
The UED campaign would be much harder to analyze, due to many factors. Back at Tarsonis, was Kerrigan just left to die, or was she rescued by the SoK? If she were rescued, then Raynor would still be with the SoK, and later the Dominion, as would Sarah, provding the Domion more power. Also, without the infestation of Kerrigan, would Duran still be there to aid the Confederacy, or would he be with the Confederacy's remnants elsewhere, or even join the Dominion? In whatever case, the Domion would put up a bigger fight then they did, and may have even fought DuGalle's forces to a stand-still. Still, though I can fathom many possibilities beyond this point, there are far too many.

Kerrigan plays a pivitol role in the StarCraft universe, whether or not her characters design had been better made. Without, it would be a much difference galaxy then it is now. For all we know, without Kerrigan, there would be no StarCraft:Ghost, maybe not even a StarCraftII!

CODEZERO
02-12-2004, 9:23 PM
if keriggan didn't become infested Raynor would have killed mengsk no offence but he would of

Traken
02-12-2004, 11:35 PM
If Kerrigan was never infested, than neither would Schwitzer have been ;)


Kerrigan's your mother? ;P

Schwitzer
02-13-2004, 4:08 AM
Kerrigan's your mother? ;P
In as many words, yes.

Think about the Overmind as her father and you see how it all works out... :rolleyes:

BobTheRaver
02-13-2004, 11:56 AM
If Kerrigan wasn't left in the platform to be infested, how much would it affect the StarCraft universe? In Brood War, Daggoth and the others merged into an Overmind, which was taken over by the UED. If Kerrigan wasn't present, I doubt it would be the 'end' of the Zerg, with them being in control of the UED. And of course, regardless of Kerrigan, Duran would still be out there, experementing on the hybrids. What are your thoughts?
every race needs a leader..Kerrigan is the leader of the zerg it would be alot different without her

BobTheRaver
02-13-2004, 12:05 PM
wow i have to say... just wow that was kinda over the top their... i need to catch my breath after reading that... just wow calm down.. no really that was in-depth and really thought out...but wow long... if that was a cliff and i jumped off it id fall asleep and wake up before i hit the ground.

dunchy
02-14-2004, 12:17 AM
if keriggan didn't become infested Raynor would have killed mengsk no offence but he would of


I'm a bit blurred how, could you explaign more? Without Kerrigan infested, how would have Raynor met Mengsk?

ZeroDarkStar
02-14-2004, 12:24 AM
They met before Kerrigan was infested.

Geno
02-14-2004, 12:26 AM
If Kerrigan wasn't infested, half of what went on might not have happend. Also, most of the last bit of the campaign would have been different. I also think that without Kerri, a lot of what the Overmind planned during the first stages wouldn't have been planned so well. I mean, without her, a lot of things wouldn't have been revealed. Oh well. Also, I think that in the BW campaigns, most, if not all, events were somehow connnected to her. Without her, most of the BW campaign wouldn't exist, and not really develop the story. The only thing that was underdeveloped was her character. I wish they told us more about her. THe reason for her being there, where she came from exactly, how they picked her, etc. You know, the life story. SC II... I wish there was such a thing, except, I wish it was years EARLIER, not FARTHER AHEAD... I mean, you can speculate very far ahead, but if you think about the time BEFORE all of this, you could have one hell of a story! ^.^

~Larry "Tired Geno" Meyers

P.S. If this post was off, sorry. Been working since 4:30, and finally got to posting. I'm out. Night! x.x

Schwitzer
02-14-2004, 5:37 AM
The trouble with prequels is been bound by having to remain true to the games that they are being set before. Personally, I think a prequel to StarCraft would be extremely boring and dumb. I only want to see the StarCraft universe go forwards; not backwards :)

And yeah, dunchy: Raynor and Mengsk stayed on board the BattleCruiser that was in orbit while Kerrigan lead the defense of the Zerg structures from the Protoss. I'm still not entirely sure how Kerrigan's infestation saved Mengsk from being killed by Raynor, though...

GSG-9
02-14-2004, 6:00 AM
Mengsk should've been massacred by Raynor, regardless of whether Kerrigan was infested or not.

Terran-Civilian
02-15-2004, 4:50 AM
All i know is that if kerrigan had never been infested then jim would be stickin his duke in her Megellan as we speak

wraith_captain
02-19-2004, 12:49 PM
The Zerg would probably not be as powerful during Episodes 2+3, and the death of the Overmind might have been the end of the Zerg. Also, Raynor might have stayed with the Sons of Korhal, at least for a little while.

RelinaIonna
02-26-2004, 2:02 PM
OK heres what I have to say:
-If you've ever read Liberties Crusade, you would have known about Michael Liberty, plus his pivotal role in SC.
-Kerrigan is a reasonably developed character if you read the book.
-And heres a kicker, the Dominion probably would have been a devastating force in the Korprulu Sector, because Mengsk would have been a very competent leader with patience and deep cunning making him a very dangerous man. (Reader will know what I mean.)
-As Kerrigan’s Guardian Cerebrate in SC I was pro Overmind and in BW Kerrigan displays that she was a true manipulator of the game, next only Durran. That cunning is why I like the Infested Kerrigan.
-Daggoth is a traitor, he had his secondary Cerebrates merge into the Overmind, Daggoth didn't join with them, he would have use the new Overmind as a puppet to control Kerrigan’s forces as well as his own.
-Last but not least Michael Liberty and Raynor had an equal shot with Kerrigan, had she not been infested.

Well thats about it, so one bit of closing advice: Read the SC novels, they're worth it. You'll know alot more stuff and see a new side of SC you never saw before. Heres one: Did you know Raynor was married? Its true. So order some SC novels from your local book store today. Chow!

cloaknblade
03-03-2004, 6:21 PM
Rashagal wouldn't have been brainwashed by Kerrigan and Duran mentioned something about Kerrigan becoming infested moved along Duran's experiments at a faster pace for some reason during that hidden level.

Valjean
03-03-2004, 6:50 PM
Rashagal wouldn't have been brainwashed by Kerrigan
Rashagal is dead, Zeratul killed her because Zeratul did not want to see Pashagal be Kerrigan's puppet. Rashagal WAS brainwashed.

=P

cloaknblade
03-04-2004, 9:56 PM
They were speculating on what would have happened if Kerrigan hadn't been infested. Rashagal wouldn't have been brainwashed by Kerrigan if she had never been infested is what my point was.

Geckat
03-20-2004, 7:55 PM
If Kerrigan were never infested, the Zerg would be just part of the UED. Instead of the clean, refined Zerg ruling the universe, that bad ol' UED would have been ruling everyone right now.

GSG-9
03-20-2004, 9:05 PM
If Kerrigan were never infested, the Zerg would be just part of the UED. Instead of the clean, refined Zerg ruling the universe, that bad ol' UED would have been ruling everyone right now.

Yeah, but there is still *gasp* Duran.

Geckat
03-20-2004, 9:15 PM
Yes, but Duran is still working on his crap. The UED would have had the entire Zerg race under their control way before Duran was ready to face them. Personally, I think Duran's experiments will be a major thing in Starcraft 2 Come.

Visions_of_Khas
03-20-2004, 9:46 PM
-Daggoth is a traitor, he had his secondary Cerebrates merge into the Overmind, Daggoth didn't join with them, he would have use the new Overmind as a puppet to control Kerrigan’s forces as well as his own.

I must disagree. Daggoth was the Overmind's mosy loyal Cerebrate, the oldest of them all. I believe he was following his prime directive and was recreating the Overmind in order to once more bring the Swarms back under control. Kerrigan was the traitor: she wished to enslave the broods and kill all opposition.

It is hard to say whether or not the UED would have been able to ensalve the Zerg if Kerrigan hadn't been infested. The variable is Tassadar and Zeratul. Kerrigan was able to detect them because of her advanced psionic abilities. With her not being there, the Protoss may have been able to do far more damage to the swarms than they were able to. Just how much damage cannot be determined. If it was a significant amount, then the Overmind would have withdrawn his swarms to Char instead of invading Aiur, and would have tried to deal with the ubseen threat. If the Overmind was able to kill them more easily, then it would have taken Aiur, and the Overmind destroyed. However, since Kerrigan wasn't infested, the Swarms would have been able to pull themselves back together more easily because she wouldn't have been there to kill so many Cerebrates, wouldn't have told the Protoss to kill them all. This would have meant that the Zerg would have been even stronger, so the UED would have had an even harder time taking over.

Duddits
03-21-2004, 9:48 AM
All I know is that if Kerrigan wasn't infested Mr. Jimmy would be getting some on the side instead of having acid spores shot at him day to day. ;)
I agree, we'd probably have lil' Kerrigan's and Jimmy's running around the barracks if it wasn't for her being infested.

Visions_of_Khas
03-21-2004, 10:46 PM
Well, one must wonder: to prevet the infestation of Kerrigan, was she killed on the station, or was she rescued? I vote for the former. It eradicates the Kerrigan factor completely. Thus, no mini-marshalls and ghosts.

Duddits
03-22-2004, 4:52 PM
No fun fun for Jimmy either T.T