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TSOShadow
10-13-2006, 7:30 PM
Ok. Now that I got you attention, I wish to discuss GenocideAlive’s closing of the thread “Should Euthansia be legalized?”.

He reasons being. Well none. He didn’t say any reason for closing it… nor must he give one. :confused:

But then what was the point of earlier posting about Futurama in the thread and then suddenly deciding to close the thread? If he gave an interest as to post him self (even if he completely violating rules he him self should be enforcing and going off topic) then once more why close it? :mad:

He later gave me an infraction later for:

Reason: Posting one-liners in the IR
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One-liners are not allowed in the IR, and I've had enough of your spam. Stop and (re)read the rules about posting in the IR before going any further.
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I went one rule at a time for him in a PM and not one seemed broken in the IR rules. And he gave no real counter as to the true infraction. :concern:

Now my one liner was (this in a completely different thread [Should Tobacco be Criminalized?]):

Well you must consider they had secret messages put into advertisements in the old days... It must worked on someone for it to be done :p...

Which was to continue on the point of the user Morkeliph:

I do hope that the comment on mind control via advertising was facetious, otherwise it's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in weeks.

Who was responding to my older post:

Some people seem to have trouble with quiting and willing them selves to do things....

(Likely the part of the population susceptible to advertisement Mind Control techniques and such...)

Has anyone read into mind control and advertising? Interesting effects it has...

Now I’m not sure if that had anything to do with my thread he chose to close but if so is that a legitimate reason?

Considering:
*He him self posted off topic in the thread.
*He gave no warning or reason.
*The discussion was progressing well.
*(And as soon to be mentioned) My grammar couldn’t have been so “borderline gibberish.” if we came to a decision about the topic.

To continue on his actions he (Geno) also had sent me a PM to me saying:

Your grammar sucks and you rarely manage to complete an idea. Oftentimes you use an ellipse (three periods in a row) in place of proper punctuation. At best, it's annoying. At worst, it makes your writing completely indecipherable and borderline gibberish.

As his reasons for giving the infraction when I told him that as long as people are understanding me and continuing to discuss the topic with me that there is no reason to close my thread.

Now if the thread was able to reach a decision on the topic (Which I my self typed up and questioned) was my grammar bad enough to close the whole thread?

Now I understand posts like this in a completely different thread (Should Tobacco be Criminalized?):

Some people seem to have trouble with quiting and willing them selves to do things....

(Likely the part of the population susceptible to advertisement Mind Control techniques and such...)

Has anyone read into mind control and advertising? Interesting effects it has...

Is a reason to give an infraction if I don’t stop after the first time. But simply closing another thread of my own that is progressing well? What is it that went through your mind as to think it worth closing?

Continuing about this new thread (Should Tobacco be Criminalized?):

I also understand someone chose to report that post I made. Rather then both people asking for me to elaborate (or allow time to edit and post my research). He gave an infraction. They did not also consider that I did not continue to talk about mind control techniques to much because I felt it would lead off from the thread topic.

I may not have said it as well but I was posting to
expand on a previous point I believe is important.
As the forum rules allow. Since my post came right after Cpt.Chronic’s I figured in the manner of reading from the previous post to mine. Would clearly mean I’m continuing from his post with what I was talking about.

I was expanding on a post made by Cpt.Chronic:

Yes you can. I've done it myself. Just because it may be physically addicting doesn't mean that the choice to quit isn't still yours. Even if you get sick at your stomache and throw up because you haven't had a smoke in 3 days, the choice is still yours. You can stop smoking and be sick for a short period of time (not saying this happens to everyone-- I'm talking about extreme conditions) OR you can continue to smoke because it makes you feel better. If someone wants to quit, then they need to be willing to accept the consequences of quitting. Otherwise, they don't really want to quit, they want to smoke.

And since I met that rule as I thought. I figured it worth posting with the remaining time I had. (Later I would have gathered a link to evidence. If I had not been given an infraction which has now taken my time.)

I also know about this:
All rules listed here (plus any at a moderator's discretion) are valid and binding.

What rule was made with out me knowing? If it’s about my grammar shouldn’t all posts be properly edited? :mad:

Also I would like to know who thinks he had good reason to close my thread? Why so?

And what should/will be done? :concern:

If you don’t want to argue about it GenocideAlive then don’t post. I’ll simply seek majority rule. If most agree with good reason then I'll give up trying to find "proper" post style. :shiftyr:

Also keep in mind this whole post has been checked over by Word Processing (Which I use on most of my posts that get long or people have a hard time understanding me.) And there are no errors as far as it goes. And it makes sense when I read it. So there shouldn’t even be a problem with spelling or grammar.

All words more advanced then usual for me I looked up. And I’ll be getting around to starting a thread about “Communication” since it’s such a HOT topic.

Neo
10-13-2006, 9:20 PM
Uhm. Venturing into IR is sort of an "AT-YOUR-OWN-PERIL"

Moderating is heavy (or not, depending on your point of view).

The fact is that GA had every right to close said thread, and/or give you an infraction. YOu broke the IR rules. Granted that the one-liner rule isn't exactly enforced uber-strictly (since sometimes it can be appropiate), but still =/

Anyways, this is a poor attempt at grabbing attention. If you had a problem with GA, you needed to take it to PMs, failing that, or failing an outcome you would find acceptable, your second choice needed to be to PM Schwitzer about it, since he is technically our "boss" 'round here.

Instead, you've decided to post contents from PMs, which, is in very bad taste, regardless of the reason.

Contact schwitzer is you feel you've been picked on by GA or whatever.

But I can probably tell you the same thing he would -- IR is heavily moderated. There is no reason to be irritated if "your" threads get closed.

oh, and FYI: there is no rule about grammar.... why you would act like there was, I don't know O_o

-Neo

Schwitzer
10-13-2006, 10:00 PM
Moderators are allowed to close any threads they feel require it. Sometimes they will give a reason, but that's not compulsory.

Intellectual Roundtable has the bar for quality posts set higher than any other forum on WarBoards. Posting styles that would be acceptable in the Members Lounge, for example, may not necessarily be adequate for IR. The IR moderators are told to maintain this level, and as such the moderation in IR is stricter than other forums.

Probably the best advice I can give you is take all this in stride and endeavor to raise your own posting style to the high level required by IR. The way you set out your post in this thread was far better than how you normally post, so it seems like you have in fact walked away from this that little bit wiser.