Zerg vs Protoss

[neobowman]

i play zerg and my friends,(all of them)protoss. I want to prove them wrong and protoss aren't the best race. i need some tips on microing my units and on basic macro

[Alexisonfire]

learn basic builds buddy and what units to use then worry about micro/macro

p.s. my orignal idea was to call u a noob but i think i should try to lengthen my posts and c how that works instead

[B.A.Baracus]

Just lurk contain and mass expand, tech slow and mass,
oh ya and tech slow and mass. When you have 2-3 expo make muts for expo harras, and when you have 3-5 expo mass ultra/crack till hes dead.

[Protogod]

WTF!? you should not be having problems with this. Zerg have an advantage ZvP. They have ample expoing capabilities, while the Protoss are handicapped in that area. LIngs rape anything except high tier units (like archons ht and reavers)

muta rushes are a great way to keep them on guard, and spending much needed money. Lurkers in their natural are a nasty lil' bugger, that cannons and obs are needed to stop. lings rape goons and massed lings rape zlots, not even mentioning muta support.

Remember to have overlords at your expos to stop them from DT sneaking.

make sure they dont expo, most of all.

[ShadeZ]

Why can't he have trouble with zvp? Plenty of zerg have trouble with zvp, it all comes down to what they like more and what they practice more, which are usually related ^^

Anyway if protoss is better then zerg protoss wins... simple, so the trick is to become better then protoss. Some protoss players best at pvz, all preferance, apparently you're worst at it :P

[Protogod]

its wideley accepted that ZvP favors Z. It's just the aspects of their playing styles that favors Z. It's closer than I may make it seem, but Z is usually the favorite.

[B.A.Baracus]

Why can't he have trouble with zvp? Plenty of zerg have trouble with zvp, it all comes down to what they like more and what they practice more, which are usually related ^^

Anyway if protoss is better then zerg protoss wins... simple, so the trick is to become better then protoss. Some protoss players best at pvz, all preferance, apparently you're worst at it :P

Ditto, they say pvz is imbalanced on shak cuz they full of shit, simple. If p is conservative and doesnt act stupid they do just fine, if they stay just one expo behind z the mass casualties they inflict will let them stay in the mineral race. Don't spread bullshit, thats my job.

OP JUST MASS CARRIER ANDS YOU WIN ALL GAME!!1!

[Protogod]

OP JUST MASS CARRIER ANDS YOU WIN ALL GAME!!1!

it seems to work on ixion an bluc...

[GroG]

The only way to get good at micro and macro is to play a lot of games. Start playing public games on ladder maps, or join PGTour.

Good luck.

[Sambo83]

If your newbie friends think protoss is better than zerg, have them ask SCC-Sureilldoit on east for a game, lmao.. he'll spank em with pure hydra :P

On the newbie level, protoss has a large advantage over zerg because protoss is much easier to macro, and you just need to move your force as one large group. So that's probably the problem the original poster is facing...

Once the game moves to a higher level of skill where the zerg knows when to power.. when to mass and how to position his units for a flank is where zerg gets the advantage. The first thing to learn about playing zerg is that you always need to flank your opponent.. your units are far less effective than the other races when they come in a striaght line.

You need to be attackign from as many sides as possible so all your units can attack at once and also be less susceptible to storms. Then the next key to master is when you need to power/expand and when you need to mass. GL with that lol.. zerg is probably the hardest race to get good with.

[lammas]

blah why do everyone talk about only zerg? Boys play terran, terrans are much cooler, cuter, and better. :>

p.s. my orignal idea was to call u a noob but i think i should try to lengthen my posts and c how that works instead

that explains a lot... after reading the first line I was sure that someone had taken your account :D

Ditto, they say pvz is imbalanced on shak cuz they full of shit, simple. If p is conservative and doesnt act stupid they do just fine, if they stay just one expo behind z the mass casualties they inflict will let them stay in the mineral race. Don't spread bullshit, thats my job.

in pvz games toss wins 45%. Imo that 5% shows it imba.

I dont actually have anything to say about zvp as iam not zerg, just wanted to post something ._.

[blupp74]

I dont actually have anything to say about zvp as iam not zerg, just wanted to post something ._.

I know the feeling. I don't have anything to say about ZvP either, or even your post. I also just wanted to post something.

[neobowman]

Unfortunatly one of my friends do something called zealot suicide squads. Dpn't ask me? Hopefully the rest of the strats will help me out.

[Sambo83]

if you 12 pool, u should be able to rape his zealots if they leave his ramp.

[U-238]

ZvP is probably the hardest mu for Z. (some may say ZvZ but from my expierience ZvP is by far harder) Basicly it comes down to how well you can contain P while expanding and massing. A weak contain isn't going to get you anywhere whereas a good one wins you the game easy. It's hard to give any advice because a lot of it is contingent on what P done/ the map/ etc..

blah why do everyone talk about only zerg? Boys play terran, terrans are much cooler, cuter, and better. :>


Amen to that brotha....










Amen.

[Sambo83]

heh.. i was under the impression that the general concensus was that ZvT was hardest.. your flank has to be perfect and you have to have enough troops... otherwise u end up suiciding your army onto his and that's gg.. but who knows.. maybe thigns are different now : )

[GroG]

How can zerg have the hardest time vs. itself? It's all preference and your own weakness that determines your "weak" matchups..

[blupp74]

My main problem TvT is that my opponent can do anything I can do.
This is an advantage in that I know pretty well what strategies are available, but at the same time it leaves me with no "racial advantage".

Hard to explain...but I guess the same would go for PvP and ZvZ.

[ShadeZ]

It's all personal who has a hard time with what, personally, I have a hard time with zvp :P

[neobowman]

also my friends say Halo is more balanced than starcraft (idiots)

[own3d0406]

Im with Blupp TvT is the hardest for me and TvZ seems to be the easiest.

I wanted to just post something too.