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Schwitzer
08-20-2006, 11:12 AM
We've got a WarBoards StarCraft group, and on the cards is a WarBoards WarCraft III clan. I'm tossing up the feasibility of creating secondary usergroups for these groups that will display a membership icon in the postbit, exactly like how the ORG Staff icon works.

Adding (or removing) people from these usergroups would have to be done by the administrators, but that wouldn't be a problem.

By offering sexy icons, it gives (further) incentive to our members to join in with other WarBoards members when participating in these games. My only concern is that I don't want to clutter up the postbit and make it ugly, but I feel suitable membership icons could be easily arranged.

Thoughts?

ice
08-20-2006, 11:15 AM
only one thing :


I LOVE YOU :)

Basan
08-20-2006, 11:16 AM
May I carry your kids, Schwitty? :rolleyes:

Anyway... Thoroughly agreed (specially for WC3-TFT). It might even spark a few more presences at the Op Org.Network channel at the U.S. East's B.Net server. *Strongly hopes so* :)

Holocaust
08-20-2006, 11:51 AM
That'd be pretty awesome.

EDIT: Question already answered -_-

But I'm wondering if the members could pitch in on the design these icons :)

ZeroDarkStar
08-20-2006, 11:56 AM
only as long as they are small (20x20?)

Aqo
08-20-2006, 1:23 PM
What kind of groups are those going to be exactly? I mean, random melee regular SC clan thingies, or more official stuff like the SCTC for example?

Markpyro
08-20-2006, 1:55 PM
I'm excited to see their use, but I'm not sure what they'll be used for. Interesting. I've always wondered why we didnt make use of the groups feature :P

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hammocksleeper
08-20-2006, 3:47 PM
only as long as they are small (20x20?)

I was thinking more like 10x10. :)

EvilEmpire
08-20-2006, 5:07 PM
What criteria will be there for acquiring membership for a group (followed by shiny thingies)?
Uh oh! Maybe for the official clan members and the crew of voluntary map gurus, which list i was just searching for, but its gone...
On the other hand .. naah never mind...

Veeger
08-20-2006, 8:14 PM
Ah, very good idea Schwitz! Very good indeed. I'm for it.

Simple designs are essential, yes. I don't think all of the members should have a say, only the administrators (ie: in the Starcraft Clan, only U-238, Middy, and Ahzz) should design the icons themselves -- afterall, it is their Clan, not our's. They are just kind enough to allow us to claim affiliation with them. :)

If they choose to show us their designs for approval, that would be their call IMO.

Holocaust
08-20-2006, 11:13 PM
Ah, very good idea Schwitz! Very good indeed. I'm for it.

Simple designs are essential, yes. I don't think all of the members should have a say, only the administrators (ie: in the Starcraft Clan, only U-238, Middy, and Ahzz) should design the icons themselves -- afterall, it is their Clan, not our's. They are just kind enough to allow us to claim affiliation with them. :)

If they choose to show us their designs for approval, that would be their call IMO.

"Not ours"?
It's everyone who's in the clan's

"They are just kind enough to allow us to claim affiliation with them. :)"
Do I detect hints of sucking up?

U-238
08-20-2006, 11:28 PM
Yea it's not "our" clan it's warboards clan. I'm just heading it and middy and ahzzy are helping.

I think that little icon dealys would be neat. It'd keep things neater as to who's in the clan and such. As for your idea veeger why not have the best of both worlds? have a icon for members and one for leaders? Seems like a good idea. I'm for it.

Basan
08-21-2006, 6:11 PM
How about a clan thread/announcement pinned on each forum and there it says the leaders and all of it's eventual 'gimmicks'? ;)

I don't know about you but am thinking that it might spawn some weird elitism of some sort. :shiftyl: Edit add (pondered on further explaining): Although, if we're all equal (as in, same clan icon) and only have an agreed/appointed leader I humbly think that that's all that we really need. ;)

SuiCidAl-KiSmEt
08-21-2006, 10:07 PM
Simple designs are essential, yes. I don't think all of the members should have a say, only the administrators (ie: in the Starcraft Clan, only U-238, Middy, and Ahzz) should design the icons themselves -- afterall, it is their Clan, not our's. They are just kind enough to allow us to claim affiliation with them. If they choose to show us their designs for approval, that would be their call IMO.
btw, GrimTerror made the clan. GrimTerror appointed Ahzz, Midy, Ahzz, who knows who else, GrassDragoon annouced it, Grim made me secound bot moderator, and U-238 inforces the clan. Maybe more people got involved into it also.


Edited: After a friendly pm, someone helped me got my facts straight. Grim created and annouced the channel that the org.network members use. U-238 decided to make it into a clan and appointed Ahzz and middy to the "top spots". I was let secound moderator. GrassDragoon planned the warboards game night where all the SC players got together to play games.

Besides the clan belonging to all of us, it's pretty hard to say who has the say in the first place.

Schwitzer
08-21-2006, 10:07 PM
I never intended to make a separation between the "leaders" and the "members" - that was a concept you guys threw into the mix.

mcflurry_1982
08-22-2006, 5:04 PM
would sc and wc3 be only the beginning? could we possibly see a group LoD, halo, etc? and what happens if people are members of multiple groups?

Sikawtic
08-22-2006, 8:08 PM
WoW clan ftw.

kongurous
08-22-2006, 8:59 PM
WoW clan ftw.

There isn't a warboards guild in WoW.

Sikawtic
08-23-2006, 12:48 AM
There isn't a warboards guild in WoW.This is talking about clans here, right?

MatGeo
08-23-2006, 9:22 AM
Cool having such icons like admins and mods sounds cool....great idea Schwitzer....

U-238
08-23-2006, 10:03 AM
would sc and wc3 be only the beginning? could we possibly see a group LoD, halo, etc? and what happens if people are members of multiple groups?

Actually there probably wouldn't be clans for those groups. The only clans here atm are just blizzard gaming related (SC and WIII) and it'll probably stay that way. It's not like we've got a halo specific forum or an LoD area. So I think that it's pretty much going to stick with blizz games.

AJ
08-23-2006, 11:08 AM
You DO know there're Diablo forums here, right? ;)

ice
08-23-2006, 11:22 AM
WoW clan ftw.


cool icon you make there Sik' maybe you can try to make some models for the warcraft / starcraft ones? ;)

GenocideAlive
08-23-2006, 11:54 AM
That'd be kind of interesting. It'd also make for a nice incentive. You may be our only administrator, Schwitz, but you're the best. It's cool to see someone movin and shakin.

AJ
08-23-2006, 1:07 PM
who said he's the only admin around here? :P

ice
08-23-2006, 1:16 PM
*points GA*

he did he did :D

GenocideAlive
08-23-2006, 4:20 PM
Aren't you the owner? Owners aren't admin, they're a class apart. It's like talking about God and Jesus except it doesn't fucking work that way in Christianity and it makes no motherfucking sense but we all pretend it's logical anyway. You would be God and Schwitzer would be Jesus. Jesus can die (I remember when Schwitz wasn't even a mod. :) ) and God can't. Wow, this sort of wandered off topic. Anyway, the short version (Chicklets): I don't consider you an administrator. Schwitz is our lone administrator (begin Lone Ranger music).

AJ
08-23-2006, 4:27 PM
When was Schwitz not a mod? You mean that short interval of time where he pissed me off?

He's been around longer than anyone else on staff I think, minus perhaps Neo, the baseline for that comparison beginning at BF.

Basan
08-23-2006, 7:14 PM
Now, now boys... we're here to throw a few ideas and see it's feasibility to improve WB's. And not to start a pillow fight over a few intricate classification details that aren't worth this whole arguement, imho. Or at least that's what I thought... *Tries to make AJ & GA shake hands* ;)

AJ
08-23-2006, 7:22 PM
Umm.. who's arguing here?

kongurous
08-23-2006, 11:06 PM
This is talking about clans here, right?

Don't argue semantics -_-'

Sikawtic
08-23-2006, 11:41 PM
You're not making any sense.

This isn't about in-game clans, it's about groups HERE.

mcflurry_1982
08-24-2006, 4:01 AM
its both actually. groups here for in game clans and making icons for those groups

kongurous
08-24-2006, 5:17 PM
You're not making any sense.

This isn't about in-game clans, it's about groups HERE.

You're the one who isn't making sense. The icons are for members of the Warboards SC and WC clans. Because there is no WoW guild, and since you technically aren't a clan in WoW, an icon isn't practical or needed.

ice
08-25-2006, 1:08 AM
maybe some1 will decide to make one in the near future? :)

Nahotnoj
08-27-2006, 9:45 AM
This would be sweet. What would be even cooler though would be if we had them for "clubs", such as the ender club (:P) or the Ninja club. (well it doesn't exist... YET!)

MatGeo
08-29-2006, 6:18 AM
Ok... ok... back on topic: Any news about the icons schwitzer??

Schwitzer
08-29-2006, 7:03 AM
AJ and I had a quick talk about it, and we like the concept of offering something to the StarCraft and WarCraft groups. We haven't decided exactly how to do it - whether to run with postbit icons or coloured user titles or whatnot. We'll let you know.

GenocideAlive
08-29-2006, 1:33 PM
Translation: STFU NOOB. I WAS TRYING TO FLY INTO THE TREE. YOU GET MORE POINTS THAT WAY. I'VE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME FOR SIX YEARS.

Basan
08-29-2006, 4:00 PM
AJ and I had a quick talk about it, and we like the concept of offering something to the StarCraft and WarCraft groups. We haven't decided exactly how to do it - whether to run with postbit icons or coloured user titles or whatnot. We'll let you know.

Just wondering about the nick's colouring... what colour would a user have if it belonged to both? :P
For sums, the icons - which was the initial concept/idea, btw - were more fitting (and pleasing to masses), imho. ;)

Dayoh
09-03-2006, 6:01 AM
Little icons, will rule, better then little color squares or circles below our names.

Schwitzer
09-22-2006, 1:38 AM
Bump.

Holocaust
09-22-2006, 11:19 PM
I'd like to contirbute some draft designs on how the icons would look like.
If the Clan icons would look exactly like the staff icon, white and beige rectangle if memory serves, it'd look a bit passive. Perhaps the face of a particular hero as the bg (Thrall for WC, Kerrigan for SC)

Something along these lines, but much smaller, like the staff icons
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/K7Eternal/HobbyIconStarcraftBroodWarP.gif

SuiCidAl-KiSmEt
09-26-2006, 5:55 PM
Hey, I see that the StarCraft.org staff has a lovely SC.org logo under their names. Where are our StarCraft clan logo? You can't hide it, we all know it can be done. :<

MatGeo
09-28-2006, 6:22 AM
Ya it shouldn't be too hard i mean if the staff lacks ideas(i hope not) u can always take holo's model, it's pretty cool.

kvil0
10-04-2006, 11:43 PM
what's halo's model?

MatGeo
10-05-2006, 1:11 PM
I'd like to contirbute some draft designs on how the icons would look like.
If the Clan icons would look exactly like the staff icon, white and beige rectangle if memory serves, it'd look a bit passive. Perhaps the face of a particular hero as the bg (Thrall for WC, Kerrigan for SC)

Something along these lines, but much smaller, like the staff icons
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/K7Eternal/HobbyIconStarcraftBroodWarP.gif

This moddel. And it's holo's not halo's. :P

Schwitzer
10-05-2006, 1:12 PM
That logo is far too huge to consider.

We'd be thinking something more along the lines of the new ORG Network Staff badges I made, if we did run with the icon idea.

MatGeo
10-05-2006, 1:21 PM
Ya the staff logos are cool. They'd work. :D

Basan
10-06-2006, 3:49 AM
Really liked the new staff ID'ing icons. And my 1st glimpse at'em was Ktan, so that explains my eyes' gazing over... Anyway if the clan one turn out as good as those, sure, count me in. ;)

Sikawtic
10-11-2006, 8:00 PM
Grawr.

Basan
10-12-2006, 3:14 PM
Nice one Sik'. ;) Although wasn't the initial (siggy) title in the same shade of blue that the SC logo is written? :o

Sikawtic
10-12-2006, 3:56 PM
Haven't the foggiest.

Holocaust
10-14-2006, 8:36 PM
Very nice Sikawtic. Except text on the right is barely readable.
Might I suggest a bright colour as an outer glow?

Sikawtic
10-15-2006, 12:19 AM
I had a blue glow on it, but didn't like ... went with the white stroke instead. I'll add the glow again... and repost it.

Holocaust
10-15-2006, 9:41 AM
Now that looks awesome ;)-b

Basan
10-15-2006, 9:46 AM
Yeah, Sikawtic. This one looks great! :)

Black.Ice
10-15-2006, 3:24 PM
Schwitzer, what are your thoughts for an RP group?

AJ
10-15-2006, 3:30 PM
Define RP Group more specifically.

Black.Ice
10-16-2006, 1:29 AM
Define RP Group more specifically.

Well, I've had the idea of an RP group for a long time but I never got around to working out all the details.

Basically, I was thinking of a small group of talented RP'ers. They'd have multiple responsibilities including:


Voluntary reviewing of RP's. People would contact the group and ask them about a story / idea that they had before posting it to insure a higher quality.
Big-Brother Program. It'd be a voluntary program where someone new to RP'ing would ask that someone experienced look over them. The "big brother" would read all the newbies posts, and give personalized advice catered to what they can improve on.
Monthly RP's - Every month, there would be a small community RP released that has a short lifespan. The members would be required to participate. Because of their experience, it should turn out to be good. Other people would be able to join as well, and have a chance to RP with experienced players giving them a chance to "play with the pros", so to speak. It'd give newer members a sure way to RP with all of the more experienced people in one RP, as opposed to 1 or 2 of them in the regular RP's.Those are the three ideas off the top of my head.

Neo
10-16-2006, 10:31 AM
I've been thinking that these...clans, should be more like "groups" as such, they would only be groups on Warboards.

I know that while I've played various Blizzard Games, sometimes I'll join a clan/guild, and I would hate to force people to choose between WB and their guild.

Perhaps what we should do, and it was something similar I did on d2p (well somewhat) is create some mini-icons (reminiscient of perhaps those Mini-Avatars from days gone by) for each game that is currently "popuplar" with Warboard's members. IE: Halo, CS, and of course WoW/War3/SC/etc...

Then we put something (an option, checkbox) in each persons profile, that could read like "I play Starcraft!"

Then, it would show a little starcraft icon down right below their signature (the "bottom border" of the post bit there -- I think that would work out best wouldn't it?).

This would then allow people to "join" multiple groups, but without something as official as a clan or whatever. IE: I could pick Diablo, and War3 since I play both.

This would then allow us (staff) to add furthur "icons" such as ones for Starchitects, or other warboard's based groups.

Then, we could furthur allow people to request that another game be added to the list (ie: Spore or whatever) based on its popularity.

Though reading over this, this would seem to cause way more work for AJ then I meant... Since its easy to assign an icon for one usergroup, but I don't think you can belong to multiple usergroups with multiple icons... can you? xD

Oh well. Just a thought.

I'm still without my computer (later tonight, hopefully), so this is just a rambling "Ideas by Neo" post.

-Neo

Black.Ice
10-23-2006, 5:01 PM
AJ / Schwitzer, what are your thoughts about the RP group? Am I going to have to force Ender to do sexual favors for you guys to get stuff done?

(low blow to Ender, just because)

Ender
10-23-2006, 10:07 PM
Oh, great. You know, BI, when I was the NEW moderator and you were the FORMER moderator, we never made jokes about you. Am I relegated to this treatment from now on?

Well, I've had the idea of an RP group for a long time but I never got around to working out all the details.

Basically, I was thinking of a small group of talented RP'ers. They'd have multiple responsibilities including:

* Voluntary reviewing of RP's. People would contact the group and ask them about a story / idea that they had before posting it to insure a higher quality.
* Big-Brother Program. It'd be a voluntary program where someone new to RP'ing would ask that someone experienced look over them. The "big brother" would read all the newbies posts, and give personalized advice catered to what they can improve on.
* Monthly RP's - Every month, there would be a small community RP released that has a short lifespan. The members would be required to participate. Because of their experience, it should turn out to be good. Other people would be able to join as well, and have a chance to RP with experienced players giving them a chance to "play with the pros", so to speak. It'd give newer members a sure way to RP with all of the more experienced people in one RP, as opposed to 1 or 2 of them in the regular RP's.

Those are the three ideas off the top of my head.

I'm not really for this - hey, you PMed me for my opinion. First off, it formally establishes an heirarchy...I mean, it's kind of cool and everything, but I'm not sure separating so-called "superior/experienced" players...

As for reviewing, it already happens. Everyone reviews RPs and either goes "Ya I'll join" or "This fucking sucks." I know what you mean - before posts. Some people do this. Sirion can't start a RP without asking for my opinion first, and it's happened with others before, so I don't really think we should have a panel for saying "Yeah, this is playable."

If I recall correctly, the Big Brother program was tried. I think I even did it at some point - tried to organize it, I mean. We had plenty of volunteers to be the big brother, but no one wanted coddled. It didn't work.

Monthly RPs...I guess that could make sense...but you want to be open to both, so wants the point of the group. This is kind of like the idea I mentioned to you via PM.