Reputation

[Protosschick99]

So I see we have rep now...But when I try to give it it doesn't work >.<

Is there a reason why?

[B.A.Baracus]

Rep? Wach you talkin 'bout Willice?

[Protosschick99]

Look at the little dot under you name :P

[B.A.Baracus]

Yeah I noticed, what does it do? I dont understand "add to reputation".

[own3d0406]

"Protosschick99 is on a distinguished road, WTF?

[TranquilNightElf]

Ya.. rep = reputation. In a nut-shell,you can give reputation to a person's post and thus add to his rep count. there are different titles for different levels of reputation

~TNE

[Protosschick99]

"Protosschick99 is on a distinguished road, WTF?

And so are you, lolz :P

But when I try to give someone rep--It doesn't do anything...It just....Stays the same >.<

[TranquilNightElf]

Ya I think AJ said there was a glitch present and that it should be fully functional in a while. So no worries :)

~TNE

[Protosschick99]

Cool--Thanks TNE mah homie! :D

[B.A.Baracus]

huh?? PC open the rep thing in a new winder, it brings you to a page asking if you aprove of the post. I think I gave you "rep" 0,O

[ice]

check the thread bug more often :) you see that AJ is curently trying to figure it out :)


got it homie ? :P

[TranquilNightElf]

Also, you need to spread reputation around before giving it to the same person again.
But I wouldn't worry too much about the workings of reputation. Best not to get sucked into it.

And a hearty hello to you too PC :D

~TNE

[ice]

but how do you give reputation to some1?

[TranquilNightElf]

Small button besides the report post button

~TNE

[ice]

aaaa :)

it's looks like a T for me :D

later edit : i gaved you some reputation TNE for helping me out :)

[Protosschick99]

I tried giving it to you TNE--But it says that I gotta spread it around more :(

And to those who don't have any rep yet (Their buttons are gray) it doesn't do anything >.<

[Schwitzer]

Yeah, we're bringing the reputation system back.

In a nutshell, reputation is a system that allows you to commend other users for amusing, interesting, insightful or humourous posts. By doing this, reputation is aimed at letting members know their efforts are appreciated, and hence encourage contributions.

By going to your UserCP (http://www.warboards.org/usercp.php), you can see who has given you "reputation points" and for what posts.

To give someone reputation, you (will) click on this button: http://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/buttons/reputation.gif. Unfortunately there is a slight bug with the DHTML that AJ needs to sort out before the window works properly. As others have mentioned, you can open the link in a new window or tab to use it.

Every user has a certain amount of "reputation points", and also a level of "reputation power".

Reputation points are earned by people commending your posts. Please do not beg, whine or advertise for people to give you reputation. If someone genuinely feels that you deserve it, they will give it to you. Also, "reputation sharing" (you give me points and I'll give you points) is shallow and frowned upon. Anyone caught doing any of the above will have their reputation points reset.

As your reputaton points increase, you will ascend through "reputation levels". Hover your mouse over the grey / blue sphere on one of your posts to see what it has to say about you.

Reputation power is how many points you add to someone's reputation when you approve of one of their posts. Without giving you the exact formula, you get additional power for posts made, time since registration, and your own reputation points.

Some restrictions:
- Anyone with less than 25 posts give 0 reputation points
- Anyone with less than 10 reputation points give 0 reputation points
- You can only give 10 posts reputation per day
- You must give 20 different users reputation before giving the same person reputation again

People with grey reputation spheres give 0 reputations points.

This system carries over from when we previously had it; those of you who gained reputation previously will still have it.

[Protosschick99]

Awesome--Thanks for clarification Schwitzer :D

[TheBB]

- Anyone with less than 10 reputation points give 0 reputation points.

Must be a flaw. Noone could get any reputation then, if everyone started at zero, which, after all, is the reasonable way to do it. :P

[Yoda]

Must be a flaw. Noone could get any reputation then, if everyone started at zero, which, after all, is the reasonable way to do it. :P

I think that rule must come into effect later or something.... right? Unless certain members are allowed to give positive reputation if they started on zero?

This is always positive, right?

[Yoda]

By going to your UserCP (http://www.warboards.org/usercp.php), you can see who has given you "reputation points" and for what posts.



Would they be on that exact page? Or at some link in the UserCP? I do not see the word "reputation points" written anywhere, although it's unlikely that I've received any yet.

[TheBB]

I have mine right there under the "subscribed threads" box. Maybe you haven't got any yet.

I think that rule must come into effect later or something.... right? Unless certain members are allowed to give positive reputation if they started on zero?

I guess moderators and admins enjoy a bit more freedom. Besides they don't start at zero - it carries over from the last time we employed this stuff. But still, it's a funny rule to have. It makes perfect sense but allows for the entire thing to simply not work also.

[Yoda]

I have mine right there under the "subscribed threads" box. Maybe you haven't got any yet.


I just checked, and found that someone had given me one. In between this post and the one earlier. Although it didn't specify who... Hey, thanks, whoever you are. Now I only need 9 more.... :tup:

[AJ]

It only allows for it to not work if we had been starting at a blank slate and if the staff weren't in a position to always be able to give reputation.

[Schwitzer]

Yeah... anyone with blue reputation spheres is at least capable of giving points. :)

[kongurous]

Distinguished road? kongurous? Ha ha, that's real funny. I bel-aired a thread.. can't be very distinguished.

[Basan]

And to think that when I initially saw it have thought that it was another presence globe, just tinier. *Then saw the scale button* >_<

Anyway, congrat's on bringing it back... let's all hope that a better maturity will prevent the 'bumpy' road from the last time to occur. ;)

Edit add: Nevermind, my rep' globe worked after the edit... :confused:

[GrassDragon]

Would they be on that exact page? Or at some link in the UserCP? I do not see the word "reputation points" written anywhere, although it's unlikely that I've received any yet.
Your rep listing should be at the bottom of the User CP, underneath any subscribed threads or infractions.

[Neo]

EEEK, This is going to be so cool ^_^

For some reason I love rep >_>

20 different people seems rather excessive, at least to me O_o

-Neo

[Seal]

why, we have over 100 semi-active people here.
and yes, the pop-up widget seems a bit buggy. i had it kinda work for a sec but it was all glitched heh.

[Basan]

Btw, after seeing my two year old karma points I've seen a new strange reference there or was I granted with a karma point at the v3.6 vB bug thread? I didn't expect that... that's for sure. :o

[Modred]

why, we have over 100 semi-active people here.
and yes, the pop-up widget seems a bit buggy. i had it kinda work for a sec but it was all glitched heh.

Going with the "around 100" mark, you have to give karma to around 20% of the active members before returning to the first one? Something tells me I won't be giving much rep out, even if I want to...

[Basan]

Going with the "around 100" mark, you have to give karma to around 20% of the active members before returning to the first one? Something tells me I won't be giving much rep out, even if I want to...

Just not to mention that it still remembers to whom ya gave karma... even if it was two years ago. :rolleyes: That kept me from giving some karma away today...

[Schwitzer]

Heh, we might re-evaluate a couple of the settings. That's just what it's on for now.

[Markpyro]

It will cause people to think about how they posts, a plus, but then there are all the people who try to make funny threads that arent funny, etc., in the attempt to gain more reputation.

We took away Karma for a reason, I'm not all that excited about it coming back.

[Battlecruiser]

I guess moderators and admins enjoy a bit more freedom. Besides they don't start at zero - it carries over from the last time we employed this stuff. But still, it's a funny rule to have. It makes perfect sense but allows for the entire thing to simply not work also.

On another forum that I go to, they have this rep thing also, and a funny effect of this rule is that at first there is hardly anyone with reputation, but then after a while, it like exponentially grows and everyone will have a lot of reputation.

By the way, this was a result of the last time we had a karma system.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/8070/karmacrazysv1.jpg

That was someone's signature. Really.

[Basan]

'Pyro & BC, hence my comment that a better maturity (http://www.warboards.org/showpost.php?p=357693&postcount=27) would prevent things of the past to repeat themselves over this time. It's only an alert, at best, but hopefully it'll serve for something. ;)

[Modred]

Can we implement a negative rep system as well? Only make it such that only certain people can give negative rep...mods for instance. Or just let AJ and Schwitzer wander around the forum giving neg points to anyone being incredibly irritating / idiotic to the point of excess. Or we could vest all of this power into one person...I would propose Whiteknight. He would undoubtely regain his status as forum scapegoat quickly if he alone possessed the power to destroy your reputation on a whim. ^_^

[Markpyro]

I thought about negative rep points, but sometimes I make stupid posts that I regret and edit later, and I dont want to be punished for a few stupid mistakes. Anyways, newbs wouldnt really care about negative reputation, though they are the main source of trouble.

[AJ]

already in place.

[Seal]

negative rep you say?

[Vhaeraun]

I'm almost surprised this was brought back. After hearing of the trouble we had last time - I was inactive or w/e last time this was effective (at least I don't remember the karma system) - I thought it wouldn't be brought back.

So, whee. Maybe I'll start using the rep system

[bluemicrobyte]

EEEK, This is going to be so cool ^_^

For some reason I love rep >_>

20 different people seems rather excessive, at least to me O_o

-Neo
I agree, 20 seems a bit high. Maybe a separate "cooldown" timer for giving rep to the same person would work - like you can only give rep to X person once every week, AND you must give rep to at least 5 other people before you can give them rep again.

But I wont argue against our current system, I'm sure it will work out just fine either way.

why, we have over 100 semi-active people here.
and yes, the pop-up widget seems a bit buggy. i had it kinda work for a sec but it was all glitched heh.

Indeed, but are all 100 of them karma-worthy? :P

On another forum that I go to, they have this rep thing also, and a funny effect of this rule is that at first there is hardly anyone with reputation, but then after a while, it like exponentially grows and everyone will have a lot of reputation.

By the way, this was a result of the last time we had a karma system.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/8070/karmacrazysv1.jpg

That was someone's signature. Really.

I think asking for rep points in a post OR signature should be a punishable offense. But I haven't seen much of it recently which is good.

[GrassDragon]

At least we know that the memberbase is interested in what goes on here.

[Stonehand]

Hrm... Maybe it's just me, but I've get a bad feeling that this will cause a seperation of members... or it could be my paranoia acting up again... pretty much is the same thing <<.

[Vhaeraun]

Hrm... Maybe it's just me, but I've get a bad feeling that this will cause a seperation of members... or it could be my paranoia acting up again... pretty much is the same thing <<.
How? As long as it isn't abused, I believe it could work perfectly.

[Protosschick99]

Honestly I think ppl get all worked up over nothing--It's just rep ppl! Who cares if someone has more than you--I don't--I'm here because we all have one thing in common--And that's gaming--We all love to game--So that's that :P

[Markpyro]

PC- Not many people are mature enough to have your outlook. Think of the n00bs :P

[Whiteknight]

AJ, would it be possible to tie the infractions to karma, so that if one is given an infraction then reputation would automatically drop a set amount?

[ZeroDarkStar]

Reputation..? REPUTATION?!

I don't need this new fangled system. I already have a sweet reputation - people already know me world round as th Amazing Trapeze-Swinging Penguin-Juggling Boy from Mars TM

[AJ]

I'm not sure WK i'll look into it.

[Schwitzer]

I'm under the impression that if we leave the karma system be for a while, the "over-excitement" we saw last time will settle down and it will end up being just another beneficial feature of our forums.

[ZeroDarkStar]

I'm under the impression that if we leave the karma system be for a while, the "over-excitement" we saw last time will settle down and it will end up being just another beneficial feature of our forums.

i agree. leave it! :D

[Protosschick99]

PC- Not many people are mature enough to have your outlook. Think of the n00bs :P

You're right--So sad, so sad, lolz :P

[Yoda]

Ok, I have a serious question. When do the rankings change? It seems that everyone is on "a distinguished road", except Schwitzer who "will become famous soon enough." How many do people need to advance from being merely on a distinguished road? :)

[GenocideAlive]

I like this idea. It sounds fun.

[Schwitzer]

Ok, I have a serious question. When do the rankings change? It seems that everyone is on "a distinguished road", except Schwitzer who "will become famous soon enough." How many do people need to advance from being merely on a distinguished road? :)
It's a secret ;)

[Basan]

Reputation..? REPUTATION?!

I don't need this new fangled system. I already have a sweet reputation - people already know me world round as th Amazing Trapeze-Swinging Penguin-Juggling Boy from Mars TM

And me thinking that the old trio that Feng' used to be in was it... :D [/Jesting]

I'm under the impression that if we leave the karma system be for a while, the "over-excitement" we saw last time will settle down and it will end up being just another beneficial feature of our forums.

Ditto. Although a bit more of info about it - how it works, etc. - wouldn' hurt (imho)... ;)

Ok, I have a serious question. When do the rankings change? It seems that everyone is on "a distinguished road", except Schwitzer who "will become famous soon enough." How many do people need to advance from being merely on a distinguished road? :)

Since someone stated that the system was brought back from the dead, I'd get a shovel (http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=3793&page=1&highlight=karma+faq) if I were you... :smirk:

It's a secret ;)

*Lol* If only that answer was (really) a surprise... :) *Would give + karma to ya if only could*
Now for real, I think that perhaps the 'general populace' could improve on knowing a tad more about it... somethin' à la squares postbit came to mind. *Cough*Karma FAQ (http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=3595&highlight=karma+faq)*Cough*

Edit add: Btw, the multiquote function still gives me the finger. Lucky for you that I already learned this new postbit coding system. :P

[AJ]

what about multiquote?

[TheBB]

It only allows for it to not work if we had been starting at a blank slate and if the staff weren't in a position to always be able to give reputation.

Didn't I say precisely that?

[AJ]

Yup, just alieviating your concerns. ;)

[TheBB]

Lol... I'd prefer "confirming my immense genius", but what the heck. :P

[AJ]

haha i'm sure you would.

*strokes BB's ego*

[Schwitzer]

*strokes BB's ego*
Ewww... you don't know where that's been :/

[Yoda]

*Lol* If only that answer was (really) a surprise... :) *Would give + karma to ya if only could*
Now for real, I think that perhaps the 'general populace' could improve on knowing a tad more about it... somethin' à la squares postbit came to mind. *Cough*Karma FAQ (http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=3595&highlight=karma+faq)*Cough*

Edit add: Btw, the multiquote function still gives me the finger. Lucky for you that I already learned this new postbit coding system. :P

Ok, 50. Thanks for telling me. :)

[Schwitzer]

Ooh... I should've just copy-pasted that from last time we had karma, haha.

I'm going to try dropping the user spread limit down from 20 to 10 for a while, and see how it goes... Let me know what you think about that. :)

Additionally, I'm going to incorporate an updated version of my old "karma FAQ" into the official WarBoards FAQ.

Hey AJ, would it be possible to have karma display as the "levels" that some forums use (they use it for post count, I believe). Basically, it looks like the hero experience bars in WarCraft III, and shows how much "experience" that member has until they hit the next level. I think that would be kinda cool. :)

Edit: The reputation FAQ has been added to the WarBoards FAQ. Whee!

[TheBB]

Ewww... you don't know where that's been :/

Dude, what? I always clean my ego after it's been in use.

[GenocideAlive]

Dude, what? I always clean my ego after it's been in use.
Yeah, right, that thing would be scrubbed half to death. LOLZ GENOCIDE IS FUNNAY.

Anyway, it'd be interesting to see how most of it works. I was unaware that Staff were always able to give karma, which immediately implies that forumers have an exhaustible supply. I look forward to the FAQ so I can get a better idea of what's going on, here.

I also like the idea of some kind of display for purposes of "showing" kharma. It'd be cool if you could give different kinds of kharma ("crazy", "logical", "intelligent", etc.) that award special sub-name icons; although I'm probably getting way ahead of everything in terms of implementation. I'm just excited to see something unique and interesting for WB.

[Schwitzer]

Er, only administrators are always able to give karma... moderators play by the same rules as everyone else. We already have quite a few members who have the ability to give karma, though.

Perhaps - at least for now while it's getting off the ground - we should consider lowering the karma requirement before people can give others karma? I'm considering setting it to something like 4 or 5, instead of the current 10.

[Seal]

[...]We already have quite a few members who have the ability to give karma, though.

Perhaps - at least for now while it's getting off the ground - we should consider lowering the karma requirement before people can give others karma? I'm considering setting it to something like 4 or 5, instead of the current 10.

its fine, we do have enough populace giving out karma like crazy. some people might not get their karma-spouting abilities just as fast though.

[Basan]

Ok, 50. Thanks for telling me. :)

Eh, no problemo. Although I can tell that you usually don't hover your mouse when reading text replies... *Cough*'Dig' harder*Cough* :smirk:

Ooh... I should've just copy-pasted that from last time we had karma, haha.

I'm going to try dropping the user spread limit down from 20 to 10 for a while, and see how it goes... Let me know what you think about that. :)

Additionally, I'm going to incorporate an updated version of my old "karma FAQ" into the official WarBoards FAQ.

Hey AJ, would it be possible to have karma display as the "levels" that some forums use (they use it for post count, I believe). Basically, it looks like the hero experience bars in WarCraft III, and shows how much "experience" that member has until they hit the next level. I think that would be kinda cool. :)

Edit: The reputation FAQ has been added to the WarBoards FAQ. Whee!

*Lol (thinkin' helmet and 'shovel' paid off)* That's what I thought... let's take advantage of the already written stuff. ;)
And as within the suggestive spirit that this thread is taking off, I'd consider (if possible, in your own opinion) to also throw in the "helpful" bit over the paragraph that describes reputation (http://www.warboards.org/faq.php?faq=faq_reputation#faq_faq_reputation_what is). Imho, it may aid boosting a more helpful mood around and perhaps drop somewhat on the harassing/flame baiting 'factor' (that we all complain about sometimes). Later on, please tell me what do ya (staff/admins) think.

I also like the idea of some kind of display for purposes of "showing" kharma. It'd be cool if you could give different kinds of kharma ("crazy", "logical", "intelligent", etc.) that award special sub-name icons; although I'm probably getting way ahead of everything in terms of implementation. I'm just excited to see something unique and interesting for WB.

Although mentioned way back in the days, I still am somewhat doubtful of it's low commotion acceptance. I can think of a link at the index page - maybe between the "mark forums read" and the "view forum leaders" - but am somewhat afraid of the spamming karma it might generate... somethin' à lá I have the biggest post count in here. Let's just hope that we can behave maturely enough to keep it in tone and on track. ;p
Btw, in my concept your sugested classification would fit like a charm in several top 3's of some sort... and perhaps a top ten for general classification. (they're the admins, let'em concoct it up a lil'.) *Stroles away 'quietly'* :D

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And let's do hope that we can behave within boundaries of reason to prevent derailling the system, Seal. I feel your concerns but maybe that 'build up' time span will serve for'em to learn how to use/react to it when the times comes to start handing out. *Wink/Hint* :)

Note to self: Must tone down on the emo/thinking out loud amount level.

[Protosschick99]

Can we also have a way where we can see WHO gave us karma? Just wondering :D

[Schwitzer]

Doing that would require manual tweaking of how it displays reputation in the UserCP, which means AJ would have to do it. Shouldn't be too hard, though... administrators see who left karma, so it wouldn't be hard to extend that to everyone.

Seeing as we don't allow for negative karma, I don't see a reason why not to do this.

[GenocideAlive]

Bleh, I think part of kharma's appeal is that it doesn't lend itself to blatant kissassery and croneyism. Letting users see who left them kharma will only make them more likely to return that kharma (consciously or otherwise) later. Mystique is what makes it sexy.

Edit: And how do members get to 10 (or 4-5) kharma if nobody has any kharma? Wait for admins to give it to them?

[Schwitzer]

Originally, everyone could give karma. Hence, we've got a chunk of carry-over members with karma-giving abilities. I guess they'll be responsible for getting the ball rolling...

[Seal]

i prefer rolling spheals.

but yes, i think i should gief karma out more.

[Schwitzer]

It shouldn't take long for a lot of the active members to reach that level... then it'll just be one big karma-giving orgy. :o

Wake up, sleepy Jean! Oh what can it mean?

Mmm, mergey mergey.

[bluemicrobyte]

Originally, everyone could give karma. Hence, we've got a chunk of carry-over members with karma-giving abilities. I guess they'll be responsible for getting the ball rolling...

Indeed we do, as I am one of them :)

Just thought I'd pop in to the thread again to place an out of context (well, I haven't read the whole thread so I dont know) suggestion that the requirements of giving karma to X different members before giving to the same person again is starting to become bothersome -- there are specific members that I frequently see posting karma-worthy posts, but even if it's been weeks since I've given them rep I'm greeted by the "you must give someone else rep first" message when I hit the button. Perhaps a time based system for giving the same person rep again.....

Just thought I'd mention that again, but it's up to you how to run the system :P

[Yoda]

I recommend the 10 minimum be lowered... so that new members can get into the system faster. Just my opinion.

[Seal]

why? i want to keep my high seat :P

[Yoda]

why? i want to keep my high seat :P

Like I said, so new members can get into the system faster. 10 RP takes too long to get, unless you spend your entire life on this message board. Maybe the post count requirement should be increased, or something, to even it out. ;) :smirk:

[Duddits]

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[Schwitzer]

Okey, I've reduced the reputation requirement to zero and left the post count requirement at 25. We'll see how this goes.

Grey balls simply means you have zero reputation points; you should still have power, depending on your statistics.

[GenocideAlive]

Grey balls simply means you have zero reputation points; you should still have power, depending on your statistics.
Blue balls simply means you have zero ass in your possession; you should still masturbate, depending on your location.

[Yoda]

Okey, I've reduced the reputation requirement to zero and left the post count requirement at 25. We'll see how this goes.

Grey balls simply means you have zero reputation points; you should still have power, depending on your statistics.

Ok; thank you. :)

Edit: Except that mine are still grey, although I've received 2 reputation points already. Any reason?

[GenocideAlive]

Ok; thank you. :)

Edit: Except that mine are still grey, although I've received 2 reputation points already. Any reason?
Think of it as "cool points". I think that should clarify as to why you're still grey.

;)

[Basan]

Ok; thank you.

Edit: Except that mine are still grey, although I've received 2 reputation points already. Any reason?

Perhaps the fella(s) that gave it to ya was(were) also greyed? Eh, it happens... (and has happened before also.) ;)