India Bombed!

[JoEsMhOe]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/11/D8IPQS6G3.html


Seven explosions hit Bombay's commuter rail network during rush hour Tuesday evening, ripping apart train compartments and reportedly injuring dozens of people, police and Indian media said.

Indian television news channels broadcast video of the wounded sprawled on train tracks and being carried through stations.



The Press Trust of India news agency said six blasts occurred along the city's commuter rail network, which is among the most crowded in the world.

India's financial center of Bombay and the capital of New Delhi were reportedly on high alert.

[Tharisfal]

I can't wait to find out who did it.

[Mtank]

India's been 'bombed' frequently for the past several years. The rest of the world doesn't really care.

But yes, this is the biggest one in recent history. And there was a bombing earlier this morning too,I think, in Srinagar. Although that's commonplace.

I find this morbidly amusing:
But even as the two nuclear rivals have talked peace in the past two years, New Delhi has continued to accuse Pakistan of training, arming and funding the militants. Islamabad insists it only offers the rebels diplomatic and moral support

"Yeah, we support them in their quest to kill you, but we never gave them any money."


I can't wait to find out who did it.

What? you don't know? It's probably Lashkar-e-Toiba or one of those other Terrorist groups from Pakistan.

[Seal]

likely some obscure fundamentalist group, those generally bomb public civilian places.

[Sirion]

This is simply idiotic. What has India every done to anyone? Beside being a succesful democracy, what have they done? It just goes to show you that terrorists will attack anyone for anything. It's just stupid.

[Battlecruiser]

This is simply idiotic. What has India every done to anyone? Beside being a succesful democracy, what have they done? It just goes to show you that terrorists will attack anyone for anything. It's just stupid.
I think it probably has to do with the Hindu-Muslim tensions related to the splitting of a part of India into Pakistan. And maybe something with Kasmir?

[Mtank]

I think it probably has to do with the Hindu-Muslim tensions related to the splitting of a part of India into Pakistan. And maybe something with Kasmir?

Hindu Muslim tensions result in riots rather than bombs. The Kashmir issue is the one that brings out all the men with guns and bombs.

The issue is at a complete stalemate. It goes something like this:

Pakistan: We must resolve Kashmir! And when we say resolve, we mean resolve to our satisfaction!

India: Kashmir is legally ours.

Hurriat Conference: We hate India. We want independence. But we won't attend any of your talks.

Meanwhile, *boom*.

It's sad, really, that terrorists arnt the only threat in Kashmir. The Army and the State goverment also tend to screw the people from time to time in the name of law and order. As I understand, army rule has made life in the affected regions quite miserable for a lot of the inhabitants.

[Battlecruiser]

Hindu Muslim tensions result in riots rather than bombs. The Kashmir issue is the one that brings out all the men with guns and bombs.

The issue is at a complete stalemate. It goes something like this:

Pakistan: We must resolve Kashmir! And when we say resolve, we mean resolve to our satisfaction!

India: Kashmir is legally ours.

Hurriat Conference: We hate India. We want independence. But we won't attend any of your talks.

Meanwhile, *boom*.

It's sad, really, that terrorists arnt the only threat in Kashmir. The Army and the State goverment also tend to screw the people from time to time in the name of law and order. As I understand, army rule has made life in the affected regions quite miserable for a lot of the inhabitants.
Well, when I said Hindu-Muslim tensions, I meant the tension that created the split of India, and that was the religious conflict. The problems at Kashmir are a product of the split between India and Pakistan. To simplify, India vs. Pakistan is basically the same as Hindus vs. Muslims. However, it is more complicated than that since Muslims do live in India.

[Black.Ice]

This is sad.

Regarding Hindi-Muslim tensions, I really think it's beginning to die down more than it was in the past. With the younger generation becoming more educated, they're seeing past the prejudices held against one another and beginning to work together as a country (I'm referring to Hindus / Muslims in India).

On the flip side, the issue with Pakistan and India is more of two countries pissed at one another. Sure, religion plays an important role, but I still think that the fact they're two separate nations that makes tensions so heated.

[AresOfOlympus]

That whole Kasmir situation is volitile. And all this damn bombing going on is sad. WWI started with less than India has endured, and it's not like the US can place too much pressure on Pakistan to actually stop it because then Pervez would be overthrown alot quicker. Scary though a country with many nukes getting bombed on a regular and not really able to do much about it because of international pressures. But nowadays what else is new.:(

[hammocksleeper]

India's been 'bombed' frequently for the past several years. The rest of the world doesn't really care. I definitely care. I'm surprised you are so numb to the tragedies that occur in India.

But yes, this is the biggest one in recent history. And there was a bombing earlier this morning too,I think, in Srinagar. Although that's commonplace. The last big one was in like 1994 or something, I think? In Bombay, again.

Fourth of July weekend I met a man who works in the same offices as I do, he's trying to meet people so my family took him and his wife out to the racetrack, where they had a laser light show and fireworks once it got dark. He's new in town and from Bombay (Mumbai), all his family is over there. very nice guy, we talked a lot about the terrorism in India, and it's such a freak coincidence that another major bombing happened so soon after. I saw him on my way out today, he said he hasn't been able to reach his parents but he'll talk to them tonight probably. They all take the Western Railway as they call it to work, all around town. It's like NYC, everyone rides the train, even if you can afford a car.

150 people dying is not something I can easily shrug off. And I'm sure that the actual death toll is much higher than is being reported now. I think it's pretty sad.

[Neo]

I definitely care. I'm surprised you are so numb to the tragedies that occur in India.

I'd assume that MTank has a better position to "care" about India then you do, considering he lives there.

-Neo

[hammocksleeper]

I'd assume that MTank has a better position to "care" about India then you do, considering he lives there.

-Neo

Which is precisely why his disposition surprises me. Or did you miss that part.

[SunTzu]

Iwata drop the bomb.

[Neo]

Which is precisely why his disposition surprises me. Or did you miss that part.
Well I kind of missed the part where its ok to talk down to someone "just because" you don't like there disposition.

I would assume that he has more of a right to decide what should bother him then you do.

And besides any of that, I took his post to mean "oh right, you only care if its something big, but all the other times it doesn't count" not a "omg i dont care, it happens all the time"

-Neo

[Sirion]

I think it probably has to do with the Hindu-Muslim tensions related to the splitting of a part of India into Pakistan. And maybe something with Kasmir?

I personally think it isn't just the whole Kashmir thing. Democracies are the arch-enemies of radical Muslims. They wish to portray them as evil, but it's hard to do that when India is doing so well in one! So, they bomb them. It really is a same.

But that's my outlook on it.

Sirion out.

[Zeltaris]

I guess we're not going anywhere, not as long as people find it acceptable to kill each other for every other reason (if there's any)

*sigh*

[GenocideAlive]

I think large terrorist agendas are starting to destroy themselves. They're so busy trying to "destroy the infidels" that they're literally giving themselves no safe harbor. After bombing the West, they turn around and bomb the local countries that are trying to make the best of their situation. They lose them as allies and they lose the sympathy that some neutral parties lend them. It's only a matter of time before the terrorists simply run out of countries that will tolerate them.
I'd assume that MTank has a better position to "care" about India then you do, considering he lives there.
Signed.

Fuck off with your snippy little remarks, hammock. I live in America, I love America, and I am a patriot in every sense of the word. But when the WTC got bombed on 9/11 I wasn't crying, I wasn't spastic, and I wasn't freaking out at everything. It didn't mean I didn't care, I just didn't see any point in becoming emotionally violatile over something that I had no control.

Perhaps instead of passing judgement on people in regard to their national issues, you should attempt to understand their position. I find it hard to believe someone could be so calloused and ignorant towards someone living national issues about which you have only third-person information.

[wa123]

Just when will they learn sucide bombing is not the solution...
what sh*t can that be solve to bomblast around... bunch of moron..
for god sake, I travel to work by train every day, I still want to live.

[Battlecruiser]

Just when will they learn sucide bombing is not the solution...
what sh*t can that be solve to bomblast around... bunch of moron..
for god sake, I travel to work by train every day, I still want to live.
When will people learn that killing is not a solution?

You know, I'm starting to feel apathetic to all these deaths. All the time, on the news, you just hear about so many people dying. All those numbers mean nothing to me. "1,000 people killed... 100s injured"... What does that mean? I just can't comprehend that. That's not to say I don't try. But whenever I try to think of that that means, I can't. My brain just goes blank on me. I don't know, maybe something is wrong with me, but does anyone else feel like that?

[Black.Ice]

Oh, I know exactly how you feel Battlecruiser!

I swear, not a day goes by where you hear about some gruesome accident or man-made conflict that results in innocent people being harmed in one way or another. I think I've become desensitized to the stuff that goes no now a days, similar to what GA posted above. I care about everything, but I don't become emotionally volatile over shit I can't control.

Today for example, I was driving and I saw two cars in a pretty bad accident. The two people were all right and didn't need an ambulance or anything. I could tell that they were in pain, and not feeling that great, but I didn't feel even the slightest bit of remorse for them which was kind of ... scary. So, like you said it's not just the numbers that I can't 'comprehend', it's just that I've come to accept that people get hurt everyday, and there's nothing I can do about it.

[Battlecruiser]

Oh, I know exactly how you feel Battlecruiser!

I swear, not a day goes by where you hear about some gruesome accident or man-made conflict that results in innocent people being harmed in one way. I think I've become desensitized to the stuff that goes no now a days, similar to what GA posted above. I care about everything, but I don't become emotionally volatile over shit I can't control.

Today for example, I was driving and I saw two cars in a pretty bad accident. The two people were all right and didn't need an ambulance or anything. I could tell that they were in pain, and not feeling that great, but I didn't feel even the slightest bit of remorse for them which was kind of ... scary. So, like you said it's not just the numbers that I can't 'comprehend', it's just that I've come to accept that people get hurt everyday, and there's nothing I can do about it.
Ok, good, so it's not just me. But I don't think I've become desensitized to seeing people hurt if they were in front of me. Not yet, but I'm sure that will happen when I grow older. But it's those numbers that are so hard to understand. The media just throws them around like a statistic, when it should actually mean so much more.

[AresOfOlympus]

Heh I must be wierd then, I dont get all erratic or emotional or anything (like 9/11) I get pissed and get calloused to what the ones responsible think, say etc.

The ones who did it might (I use that word very generously) have had some reason in their mind why it was the thing to do but for some reason when I see it I feel less and less worried about their actual struggles or plight (kind of like I do with the Palestineans, I used to think hey they actually have a point) and actually wish more on them.

Oh well yep im desensitized.

[hammocksleeper]

Fuck off with your snippy little remarks, hammock....Perhaps instead of passing judgement on people in regard to their national issues, you should attempt to understand their position. I find it hard to believe someone could be so calloused and ignorant towards someone living national issues about which you have only third-person information.

Nothing in my post indicated that I was passing judgement. The last thing that I would do is marginalize the feelings of those people who are actually immersed in the thick of things. This is evident by the story I told about the Bombay guy. The point of my post was to express surprise, and to defend against mtank's assertion that "The rest of the world doesn't really care." It could have been viewed as a sympathetic gesture, even. I didn't say and I don't think that being numb is necessarily a bad thing.

[Seal]

truth is, people don't really care about things not affecting themselves directly or indirectly. if a city or a country gets decimated somewhere and you dont know anything or anyone there, you wont care -- unless social pressure makes you care, since "it's so bad thing!". it'll get forgotten anyway.

[Mtank]

Nothing in my post indicated that I was passing judgement. The last thing that I would do is marginalize the feelings of those people who are actually immersed in the thick of things. This is evident by the story I told about the Bombay guy. The point of my post was to express surprise, and to defend against mtank's assertion that "The rest of the world doesn't really care." It could have been viewed as a sympathetic gesture, even. I didn't say and I don't think that being numb is necessarily a bad thing.

I don't see how you took "the rest of the world doesn't really care" as "I don't care".

If the rest of the world really did care, Pakistan wouldn't be be allowed to continue its funding and support of all those militant groups.

[SarahK]

nuke the muslims, prevent a whole lot of innocent people dying

[kongurous]

nuke the muslims, prevent a whole lot of innocent people dying

Prevent innocent deaths by creating innocent deaths? Your bigotry is astounding.

[Seal]

nuke the muslims, prevent a whole lot of innocent people dying
you, lady, win this thread's Über Logic award.

[Battlecruiser]

Heh I must be wierd then, I dont get all erratic or emotional or anything (like 9/11) I get pissed and get calloused to what the ones responsible think, say etc.

The ones who did it might (I use that word very generously) have had some reason in their mind why it was the thing to do but for some reason when I see it I feel less and less worried about their actual struggles or plight (kind of like I do with the Palestineans, I used to think hey they actually have a point) and actually wish more on them.

Oh well yep im desensitized.
Yeah, I also feel anger at those responsible. For example (I don't know if I should tell you guys this), I made the promise to myself that if I ever see Osama Bin Laden, I will strangle him to death even if that means I will die. But that isn't what I'm worried about. I am scared that something is wrong with me because when I hear that hundreds and thousands of people die, I don't even bat an eye. But after reading this thread, I guess a lot of people feel like me. It's sad, but that's how life is.

[hammocksleeper]

I don't see how you took "the rest of the world doesn't really care" as "I don't care". You're right, that was mistaken of me.

[Mtank]

You're right, that was mistaken of me.

Forgiveness is granted.


Apparently there's a fad going on amongst the youth, where people put rose smilies in their MSN nicnames to 'express sympathy' for the victims. Words cannot express my disdain at this pathetic trend.

[Sikawtic]

Bombay was renamed Mumbye (don't know spelling, but that's what it sounds like) in 1997. People still haven't caught on -_-

[Seal]

Mumbai. at least they kall it so here.

[Battlecruiser]

And Madras is now called Chennai for those of you who are wondering.

[hammocksleeper]

The rulers wanted to rid India of all remnants of British imperial rule, including the names of the cities, so they had them changed.

[AresOfOlympus]

Yeah, I also feel anger at those responsible. For example (I don't know if I tell you guys this), I made the promise to myself that if I ever see Osama Bin Laden, I will strangle him to death even if that means I will die. But that isn't what I'm worried about. I am scared that something is wrong with me because when I hear that hundreds and thousands of people die, I don't even bat an eye. But after reading this thread, I guess a lot of people feel like me. It's sad, but that's how life is.

You sir are a better man than I If I found him he would die but he'd suffer for about a month before I let him die.