What happened to Warboards?

[Black.Ice]

I remember a time when new people would post, to be greeted with friendly replies, and people directing them in the right direction, no matter how idiotic or naive they sounded. Now, I see spam, flames and insults when someone new comes along o when someone posts something not following the norm.

I remember a time when someone asked a stupid question, they'd be kindly be told that the question has been asked before, not told that they are idiots, and that they shouldn't post on the forums.

I remember a time when the mods were widely respected by the members and considered to be normal members, who just had some extra duties, not a separate group of people who are out to get "us".

I remember a time when there were meaningful discussions, and people considered each other "online buddies", and would enjoy the company of one another, not attempt to insult each other with every opportunity they got.

I remember a time when people hated spam, and that they'd strive to make their posts of a higher quality, not willingly indulge in it.

I remember a time when everyone was pretty much everyone got a long with one another, and there weren't forum 'cliques'.

I remember a time when someone could humorously insult / joke someone, and it'd be all in good fun, not because everyone on the forum hated each other and actually meant it.

I remember a time the community used to talk about things that they did, what they cared about, not just random internet videos, quizzes and cool questions to ask one another.

Maybe I just remember things differently, but I think a lot of the people who have been around the forums have become apathetic, cynical and sarcastic. I know I have. I don't see that same interest or friendliness that once existed. The situation's not hopeless, but all of us have to remember one thing... We're here on this forum because we like it here; not because we're forced here. We should try to make this a better place, so that we'll continue to enjoy it here and that new members who come will enjoy it as well.

So, I urge all of you... don't flame your fellow members. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all. It doesn't matter if they are a newbie or a complete idiot, just try be friendly. We're here on an online forum, there's no need to insult someone if you disagree with them. Step back, and let them do what they want.

Don't spam... what are you getting out of it? It's not funny, and it gets kind of annoying to shuffle through all of it. When standing in a social conversation, you don't talk about random shit in a conversation and a forum shouldn't be different. But it's not just spam that's annoying, it's the lack of high quality posts. When you write something, put some sincere effort into it. If someone asks a questions, or posts a quiz, don't just post a result. Put some effort into it, and try to carry a conversation or something.

Be friendly to everyone. Just because some newbie comes a long and asks a stupid question, and makes a stupid thread doesn't mean you have to give a sarcastic reply telling him that the thread's useless. Acknowledge their presence, and share their enthusiasm. At one point, we were all new.

Annyyyways... yeah.

[The_Maker]

Is this pointed in the direction of certain people, or just everyone in general pray tell?

[100thlurker]

I'm new here, so I've been born into the era where countless battleships of flame and spam would descend from thier warp portals and lay waste to all forum in their path.

I've seen ban/deletion anti-matter cannons wipe out unclean data right off the face of the earth in an awe-inspiring blast of holy flame.

But, I yearn to see the peacefull days that you speak off. I will fight with thee! FOR A BETTER FORUM!

*cough*

[Darkslayer633]

well, I fully agree with every statment there, and while I would love to share with you all my first thread, because it is an exact example of BI's point, I cannot. For it has been too long since my first post for it to still be wher i can find it.

I also agree that warboards has become frequently less newb friendly, and often our older more respected members do welcome these new people, but our younger and less avid posters often call spam on new threads that the person never really knew was there. So what I say... NOT EVERYONE HAS BEEN HERE AS LONG AS YOU, AS FAR AS THEY KNOW THEIR POST IS NEW AND HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.. mmmkay?

[kongurous]

I remember a time when novelty projects were taken seriously. That being said, this thread has a message, and a good one at that. I have noticed that people have seemed to just be angry little bitches who are just waiting for someone to lash out at. I haven't done much to help, and in fact I'm probably one of those people, but I have noticed it.

Anyway, kongurous supports this message.

btw, BI, you've indulged in some of the things you called out in the post. I'm not trying to bring anything up, I'm just saying, no-one is perfect and it is often wrong to cast blame without first realizing yourself.

[100thlurker]

I do beleive we all have an agreement on that.

Newbies are good, as long as they don't become clones of certian people...

So let us welcome new members and drop the spam.

[The_Maker]

But when someone uses a language or type of word structure you are intolerant of (AOL speak anyone?) it becomes a great pain for any kind or unharsh words to be spoken without lying to one's self. I have nothing against newbies, but when they act immature (the age limit is 13 here people) I really have no pity on them. Or for that matter, if the newb tries/does something that is completely foolish or is obviously against the rules... that I also cannot tollerate.

Perhaps the o' so powerful moderators and administrators could give us some pointers on how to 'Properly' treat forum new comers, without going insane?
*hint* *hint* Black.Ice

[MatGeo]

I fully support your post BI!

If what you posted could be done again it would be so good.

If it makes you feel better not all of what you posted is gone...for example I've always considered u guys online buddies :P

[kongurous]

But when someone uses a language or type of word structure you are intollerant of (AOL speak anyone?) it becomes a great pain for any kind or unharsh words to be spoken without lying to one's self. I have nothing against newbies, but when they act immature (the age limit is 13 here people) I really have no pity on them. Or for that matter, if the newb tries/does something that is completely foolish or is obviously against the rules... that I also cannot tollerate.

No, the rating is PG-13, doesn't mean you have to be 13 to join.

I'd like to leave a quick message real quick...

If you don't have a reason to post, don't know what to post, or are just posting for no reason, DON'T. FREAKING. POST.

[Black.Ice]

Is this pointed in the direction of certain people, or just everyone in general pray tell?

I think I meant it as more of a general message to anyone who's really interested in the community that we've all established for ourselves.

btw, BI, you've indulged in some of the things you called out in the post. I'm not trying to bring anything up, I'm just saying, no-one is perfect and it is often wrong to cast blame without first realizing yourself.

I've made all of the mistakes in the post above, which is what helped me realize them. I was thinking about WB, and what's changed, and that's why I made this thread...

Like you said, no one is perfect, but if we all work together for something that we like, we can really make this a better place than it already is.

[Spartan-II]

I have also noticed this.

Actually, i'm probably one of the people this is aimed at, and it's easy to see why. When people are mean or intolerant, that pisses me off. When people act stupid and immature, that pisses me off. When people are small minded bigots with a narrow view of the world, I get pissed off.

That's no excuse for acting the way I do, but still, if I don't let it out in some form it just festers until something worse happens.

If we all just thought about what we were posting before we posted it, the community would be better as a whole.

[Markpyro]

I've made all of the mistakes in the post above, which is what helped me realize them. I was thinking about WB, and what's changed, and that's why I made this thread...
At least you has the courage to say what I could not. I know what you mean. I knew what was happening, and I havent been responding like I should. My tolerance level is at an alltime low as far as people who dont exactly know their place, and it shouldn't be, of which I have only myself to blame.

As for the degrading quality of posts, I saw it coming long ago. I miss the old Warboards, but this place isnt going to automagically turn around again, and certainly not by a simple plea.


I remember a time when the mods were widely respected by the members and considered to be normal members, who just had some extra duties, not a separate group of people who are out to get "us".
When I first joined, there was a group of strong, intelligent moderators who stood their ground and made their presence known, or at least that's how it seemed to me. Remember? The ones who we all admired and aspired to become. Not only do I believe that the member base has degenerated, but the same has come to the Moderating team. There are still a few who make good posts and are committed, and I appreciate it. Dont get me wrong, AJ chose people who are intelligent and right for the position, but there are still the couple who seem to make the kind of posts that you here are condemning, or do outright little for the community. The mods are the best shot at influencing this change, and to do so we need full support.

[mcflurry_1982]

Im an old hold over from blizzforums. i was here when the staff from the .org network split from the lhq network to for wb (officially opened 2/08/04 i was the 63 person overall to show up). one of the many reasons the staff and the rest of we originals left bf was because of the apathy and discontunuity of the members. we encouraged each other to make wb better than bf and to not let it turn into another one.

I does seem that we need to rededicate ourselves to that creedo. no one is innocent but if we work together we can restore wb.

[GenocideAlive]

Well, I can honestly say this is all my fault. But I'm still kind of apathetic. Meh, what can I say? I'm very critical. On another note, my posts are substance incarnate. So I'm one of those things that balance out. Or not.

I do have fun while I'm at it, though. Does that count?

[ScottieIWU]

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say this all started once Xenon left/was banned. We could all target our anger at him if we needed to, and he would reply with some kind of witticism. Now that he's gone, we just have SarahK and I think we've found her to be wanting.

[Black.Ice]

I miss the old Warboards, but this place isnt going to automagically turn around again, and certainly not by a simple plea.

Actually, I think a simple plea and reminder can go a long way. I consider myself to be semi-respected around here, and I don't expect to change all the members. But I am hoping those who know me will at least read what I have to say. If they like what I say, they may follow. Even with a handful of people working together, this place could really change.

Well, I can honestly say this is all my fault. But I'm still kind of apathetic. Meh, what can I say? I'm very critical. On another note, my posts are substance incarnate. So I'm one of those things that balance out. Or not.

I do have fun while I'm at it, though. Does that count?

Haha. You're right about one thing, you do put some effort into your posts. But I doubt all of this is your fault; it's just that people have been bitter towards one another.

Im an old hold over from blizzforums. i was here when the staff from the .org network split from the lhq network to for wb (officially opened 2/08/04 i was the 63 person overall to show up). one of the many reasons the staff and the rest of we originals left bf was because of the apathy and discontunuity of the members. we encouraged each other to make wb better than bf and to not let it turn into another one.

I does seem that we need to rededicate ourselves to that creedo. no one is innocent but if we work together we can restore wb.

Even though I wasn't a member of BF or anything like that, I've heard more and more people make analogies between the two forums. Like you said, if we rededicate ourselves, we can restore WB.

[Spartan-II]

It's not all your fault, GA. Xenon started it. You're funnier than him, and your posts have substance. As long as you have fun with it, why stop?

We're talking about the random spam and low quality posts. It's just getting worse overall.

[Zeltaris]

Well if you ask me, it's GrassDragon's fault. That damn fairy-pixie stole my my gold raped my chickens and... err...

Come now, let's be serious, Zelt. The problem here is that WB has outgrown us as a community . That's how I feel it at least.

I noticed it back when I still was a regular. I loved WB during the first year because of the way the community worked, but back then the community was new and everyone got along with each other because they already knew each other and those who joined blended in quickly. But that was when WB had around 200 regulars. Friends would get together in RPs, or they'd do cool stuff like the Starchitects, for example. But that was bound to disappear. Sooner or later, we all grow up and go our separate ways. That's inevitable and it's what happened to the cool blokes like ShawnMan X or, I dunno... Carnage. And as the vets vanished and tons of newbies joined the community just dissolved. Maybe it's not a matter of putting teh.blame on someone and going all WITCH OMG BURN DA N00B SPAMMER AT TEH.ST3AK!!!!! O_o, maybe it's time we actually did something that puts us together.

When we once again have cool activities which anyone can join (and therefore feel a part of Warboards) like the Beginning, or that old MS Paint battles thread, or contests like the Monthly StarCraft challenge or the Image Competition in C&C, when forgotten forums like Diplo and RPs come back to life, maybe then we'll see things change. Just posting and discussing it doesn't cover it all. We need things that can make people spend their *cough*worthless*cough*time here instead of doing something stupid like eating or showering or sports or having a life or... wel, you get the point.
Honestly, right now there's nothing which can bring us together(is the IRC channel even alive still?), it only takes a little something... hell, even a spam thread to do the job. Which reminds me, I think the excessive anti-spam crusades had an important role in killing the community too.

But seriously, bring the members together and give them something fun to do (and a certain degree of freedom to be complete idiots) and we'll have our community back - and maybe then Zelt shall come back to dwell among you mortals ;)

Cheers :P

[dunchy]

I remember when I was a mod here :(
I remember having fun with Carnage and Link.
I remember finding lots of video's that were cool.
I remember starting threads which caused wide eyes yet very little spam posts.
I remember not seeing 'ibtl' posts.
I remember drunk threads not being disulions of grandeur.

*Sigh*

[BlackHawk]

I'm going to have to agree with Zelt. I think the blame lays in many different places, but the biggest is that all the 'old' mature forumers that knew one another have begun to move away. This alone could be part of the reason you are asking "what happened to Warboards?" You no longer recognize people, new members pop up, they post about whatever and you feel it's no longer the 'old' WB.

Myself, I know I'm not posting as much as I was at the beginning. My summer job (camp) has put a large hinderence on my posting -- I come back from camp and I'm not so much into the computer as I am in December.

I also think some of the anti-spam crusades may have damaged the community. Sure, spam is bad, but not every bit of spam is bad. I dunno, I'm almost ranting at this point.

Basically, I think, much like Zelt, that people have moved on and because of this the 'vets' don't recognize as many people and feel it's changing. Not to say we're going insane, but it is happening. Also an event that could bring the community together would be great.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Zelt: IRC is alive.

[hammocksleeper]

Amen, Black.Ice!

Is this pointed in the direction of certain people, or just everyone in general pray tell?
It's all of our responsibility to keep the quality of the forums high.

[Basan]

Like you said, no one is perfect, but if we all work together for something that we like, we can really make this a better place than it already is.

This and you 1st post here... gold(en rule or it should be). :)
I do realize that am somewhat more ironical than usual, and perhaps a tad less helpful, but that just reflects my current feel upon things... if you research it and then ask the really important, ppl will take more notice on ya. That's what's been happening in my work (and personal life) as well. Even though, I got your point and will try to be more helpful as used to. You know... the 'dumb', good and ol' samaritan (http://www.tfd.com/samaritan) (I used to be). As if I was that good in the 1st place... :smirk:

[Sikawtic]

OMG we're becoming blizzforums <_<

Oh and darkslayer: I CAN'T WAIT FOR ASSASSIN'S CREED!

Zelty: OMG <3

BI: I agree 100%. It's almost a pain to come here now...

[AJ]

aww memories. =]
listen to your elders kids.

[DragonPaladin]

Well. I think its cause GA came along...but I don't know...it seems like Warboards is its usual self though...mabbe IRC has been a bit less active. Or I think everyone comes out at night. Last summer, we had weird convos all night.

[kongurous]

The situation is no-one's complete fault. GA may have been a contributing factor, however he is not completely to blame.

[DragonPaladin]

I know its not all GA, but I couldn't help but mention him :D

Please don't kill me GA.

[Basan]

Lets not start voidly pointing fingers at one another, shall we? :P
At worse scenario(s), we all are to blame... even if in the tinier 'roles' we played lately (let's say about 6 to 8 last months). :shiftyl:

[Ark-templarius]

It's all of our responsibility to keep the quality of the forums high.
Dead on. Trash In -> Trash Out
If the quality of the forums is not ideal, beautify the climate with quality. It's a group effort, lest you go mad from trying to "fix things myself".

[dunchy]

Other things a friend remembers::

What happened to the, Join the Ranks of the Damned, Say Goodbye To Your Social Life, Post Late Into The Night Until Your Eyes Bleed, Type Until Your Fingers Break, Dedicate Your Soul To AJ, Service Fenguin Like You Mean It, Spank The Monkey With A Banana, Watch TheBB Play With His Rubix Cubes, Enjoy A MarkPyro Rant, Both Love And Hate theXenon As He Offends You, Guess JenJen's Real Name, What's ShawnManX Wearing, Is Dunchy Drunk Again, Why Battlecruiser Rules, Make Starcraft Maps With BSTRhino, Encourage bluemicrobyte In His Endeavors, Play Diplomacy With Cygnus, Dodge Dark_Soul74's Whips, Beware Dark_Viper's Venom, Huggle EdvardMunch Into Loving America, Play Arcade With Garrec, Beware Of Hidiho2, Spend Some Time With Holjfie, Match Wits With Mindslaver, Learn The Art Of The Poser With Moser, Relax Comfortably With Nahotnoj, Dream Of Down Under Wonders With Schwitzer, Get Elite With SoulreaverELITE, Conquer The Zerg With UED77, Howl At The Moon Till Noon With Werewolf91, Burn Flags With wraizyr, Count Down The Seconds On ZeroDarkStar's Porch, Sleep In You Guessed It A Hammock With Hammocksleeper, Blast Off With spaceman610, Smack Those Drums With coolguyz, and last, but certainly not least, Sing Along With AJ threads?

[Neo]

It's whiteknight's fault.

dunchy, I love you. run away with me right now, I'll forget about that sarah chick.

-Neo

[Protosschick99]

I remember a time when new people would post, to be greeted with friendly replies, and people directing them in the right direction, no matter how idiotic or naive they sounded. Now, I see spam, flames and insults when someone new comes along o when someone posts something not following the norm.

I remember a time when someone asked a stupid question, they'd be kindly be told that the question has been asked before, not told that they are idiots, and that they shouldn't post on the forums.

I remember a time when the mods were widely respected by the members and considered to be normal members, who just had some extra duties, not a separate group of people who are out to get "us".

I remember a time when there were meaningful discussions, and people considered each other "online buddies", and would enjoy the company of one another, not attempt to insult each other with every opportunity they got.

I remember a time when people hated spam, and that they'd strive to make their posts of a higher quality, not willingly indulge in it.

I remember a time when everyone was pretty much everyone got a long with one another, and there weren't forum 'cliques'.

I remember a time when someone could humorously insult / joke someone, and it'd be all in good fun, not because everyone on the forum hated each other and actually meant it.

I remember a time the community used to talk about things that they did, what they cared about, not just random internet videos, quizzes and cool questions to ask one another.

Maybe I just remember things differently, but I think a lot of the people who have been around the forums have become apathetic, cynical and sarcastic. I know I have. I don't see that same interest or friendliness that once existed. The situation's not hopeless, but all of us have to remember one thing... We're here on this forum because we like it here; not because we're forced here. We should try to make this a better place, so that we'll continue to enjoy it here and that new members who come will enjoy it as well.

So, I urge all of you... don't flame your fellow members. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all. It doesn't matter if they are a newbie or a complete idiot, just try be friendly. We're here on an online forum, there's no need to insult someone if you disagree with them. Step back, and let them do what they want.

Don't spam... what are you getting out of it? It's not funny, and it gets kind of annoying to shuffle through all of it. When standing in a social conversation, you don't talk about random shit in a conversation and a forum shouldn't be different. But it's not just spam that's annoying, it's the lack of high quality posts. When you write something, put some sincere effort into it. If someone asks a questions, or posts a quiz, don't just post a result. Put some effort into it, and try to carry a conversation or something.

Be friendly to everyone. Just because some newbie comes a long and asks a stupid question, and makes a stupid thread doesn't mean you have to give a sarcastic reply telling him that the thread's useless. Acknowledge their presence, and share their enthusiasm. At one point, we were all new.

Annyyyways... yeah.

I agree--I remember when we all use to get along.....That was many many moons ago, lolz. I sure do miss those days :(

[claus]

If you don't have a reason to post, don't know what to post, or are just posting for no reason, DON'T. FREAKING. POST.

Calm down kongurous. I have been here awhile I guess you could say ,even though my post count is really sub par, and if I remeber correctly I got alot of help from some of you about how to quote ect. I just wanted to thank some of you for your help.

On that note everyone spams, but I think most newbies who spam are just doing it for the post count if anything heck I've been here for wat about a year and I'm about to break 200.
If I may ask if there's a Tutorial thread any where? And maby no new guys ask peopple for help because they're just afraid of gettting yelled at, insulted, or worse.

Would any of you oppose to starting a tutorial thread so that all the senior memebers can put some of their esperience and other advice in?

[Pirahordica_King]

I'm new here, so I've been born into the era where countless battleships of flame and spam would descend from thier warp portals and lay waste to all forum in their path.

I've seen ban/deletion anti-matter cannons wipe out unclean data right off the face of the earth in an awe-inspiring blast of holy flame.

But, I yearn to see the peacefull days that you speak off. I will fight with thee! FOR A BETTER FORUM!

*cough*

I too have been born in this world...

[GenocideAlive]

The situation is no-one's complete fault. GA may have been a contributing factor, however he is not completely to blame.
IT IS MY COMPLETE FAULT! Dumbfuck. Everybody knows it's me you assfairy. Don't deny it, anyone. This entire forum brought to its knees by my incredible critical power. Bitches.

On a side note, I found these cheese baked snack crackers that are similar to Goldfish. They're called "Dolphins & Friends" and they're made by Austin; you get like 2.1x as much for like 70c more. They're a little harder in texture than Goldfish, but once you crunch it up, it's that same cheese-cracker goodness. 5 of 5 stars.

And Neo, like 4 people here get the Whiteknight joke. He's gone, the joke's over, move on plz thx.

[claus]

mmhmmmm Anyway I still say we need to get a tutorial thread for the new guys, and maby lighten up on them just a tad.

[Black.Ice]

I think all of us are in agreement here. GenocideAlive is the reason the forums went to hell.

I mean, err, there's something that we have to do.

I for one, am tired of sitting back and doing nothing... and I'm going to take a stand. Lets get off our lethargic asses, and make this a better place.

Who's with me?

/me rallies a crowd

[Spartan-II]

I've alright started being nicer to noobs!

I for one am with BI. We should be the change we want to see in the community.

/ghandi rip off

[claus]

I'll lend a hand chief. So what are we gonna do besides look at post and kind of straighten them out?

[Black.Ice]

Aim to start stuff that you think will bring the community together. Don't wait for things to happen, take initiative and do them yourself. You must be the change you wish to see in the forums.

/real Gandhi rip-off (that last sentence was a Gandhi quote rip-off)

[claus]

Aye cheif I'll see what I can do err start.

[Ubergopher]

Right, I haen't really noticed a change, posibly because I've become part of the problem under GA's inspiring demotivatoin...


On a side note, I found these cheese baked snack crackers that are similar to Goldfish. They're called "Dolphins & Friends" and they're made by Austin; you get like 2.1x as much for like 70c more. They're a little harder in texture than Goldfish, but once you crunch it up, it's that same cheese-cracker goodness. 5 of 5 stars.
Like the original Goldfish flavor or that new imperfect Goldfish flavors?

[Neo]

Technically WK isn't gone, just busy. :(

-Neo

[GenocideAlive]

I pledge to educate every noob I see, violently if necessary.

Edit: Tastes pretty damn Goldfishy to me. If you're going to get picky about it, I honestly have no clue. But after the third mouthful I don't really give a fuck either. A Goldfish bag would be half-empty by then for me. I eat like 4-6k calories a day. :P

Technically he's been busy for 4 months and has posted about as many times over that 4 month period. I'd say he's "technically" moved on.

[kongurous]

IT IS MY COMPLETE FAULT! Dumbfuck. Everybody knows it's me you assfairy.

I've been promoted to assfairy? Sweet.

[claus]

ANYWAY

Now I can see y GA is considered a big part of the problem. hmm I think I have an idea.

[Ubergopher]

Tastes pretty damn Goldfishy to me

Hmmm... I'll see if I can find 'em at the BX this weekend. I once had a bad experience with the white goldfish... Its not a Goldfish unless its gold!.

[Neo]

I pledge to educate every noob I see, violently if necessary.

Edit: Tastes pretty damn Goldfishy to me. If you're going to get picky about it, I honestly have no clue. But after the third mouthful I don't really give a fuck either. A Goldfish bag would be half-empty by then for me. I eat like 4-6k calories a day. :P

Technically he's been busy for 4 months and has posted about as many times over that 4 month period. I'd say he's "technically" moved on.
Yeah, I know. We are all annoyed with WK.

It IS his fault though, he stopped posting and we lost are scapegoat.

I think its time we vote for a new one!

-Neo

[Ubergopher]

How 'bout we start to make fun of Heavy Marine and make him the forum scapegoat? If he comes back that is...

All in favor... do somethin' to make it be known.

[Aqo]

It's true that Warboards has changed, to the worst, and I'm not going to repeat everything posted thusfar... but what are you planning to do about it?
I mean, sure, you made this thread and now several people said that they agree and will try to get better.
I will try, from now on, to be nicer to newcomers, put more content in my averege posts, refrain from writing useless messages, and will try to support and/or start events that unite the community.
That's all nice and pretty - but will it help? No.

The chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Unless something is done to make all members be, uhh, better, nothing will change.

If I were to give an advice for as to how to make the change work, I'd say set some staple rules, such as: when replying to someone who has only one post, you must greet him with "Welcome to Warboards!", and excessively enforce those rules in moderation, until people abide them automatically.

Just my 2c.

If you agree with anything I said, I'd suggest that the last few posts be deleted. That'd be a start. Otherwise this thread is a joke, as it's filled with what it suggested that shouldn't be happening anymore.

[claus]

Tastes pretty damn Goldfishy to me. If you're going to get picky about it, I honestly have no clue. But after the third mouthful I don't really give a fuck either. A Goldfish bag would be half-empty by then for me. I eat like 4-6k calories a day.

Tis better then sitting here and watching warboards decay from the inside with crap like that.

[mcflurry_1982]

It's true that Warboards has changed, to the worst, and I'm not going to repeat everything posted thusfar... but what are you planning to do about it?
I mean, sure, you made this thread and now several people said that they agree and will try to get better.
I will try, from now on, to be nicer to newcomers, put more content in my averege posts, refrain from trying useless message, and will try to support and/or start events that unite the community.
That's all nice and pretty - but will it help? No.

The chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Unless something is done to make all members be, uhh, better, nothing will change. Or the whole idea of making Warboards the better place it used to be will be like Communism - great is theory, doesn't work when actually attempted.
even one drop of water raises the level of the sea. the theory here is to lead by example. people resist new rules its only natural. but if the leaders of a cummunity start to follow a higher standard (and vice versa) eventually others will follow.

[Sirion]

Hmm. I'm too lazy to read 3 pages of stuff, and too tired. So, I'll just comment on BI's post.

Yeah, I'd have to agree on all points. People here can be jerks sometimes, intentionally or not. Myself included. We really need to learn to tolerate things, and not be such jerks.

But what do I know? I'm probably repeating half the things in this thread. Then somebody may come along, quote me and flame away. That's the thing. It's not like everyone's going to read every thread, but they're still flamed for not and posting something that's already been mentioned. It's unfair.

Hope this thread changes a few things.

[Ktan]

Newcomers get a chance with me. If they repeatedly spam, or ignore advice though, I get pissed off. Simple as.

I do, however, agree with most of the points the big old BI came out with. The first time I came here, I made mistakes, and being a sensitive newb, ran off. Now I am more blooded and versed in WB nature, I feel a compulsion to stay.

Even if it does involve risking GA's wrath or BA Baracus' Drunk Threads..

Or hearing that WhitKnight joke. AGAIN!

[bluemicrobyte]

When I first joined warboards over two years ago, the first thing I noticed was that this forum was different from the rest of the internet. This forum was a peaceful sancutary in the middle of an evil flame driven cyberspace - a place where everyone got along nicely with little or no conflict.

I remember being told the story of how Warboards came to be - about how there once was another forum in which there was much pain and despair, and how the three great forum elders broke apart and set out to forge the gleaming online glory that we now know as Warboards.org. When the site was first founded, the creators were VERY careful to select staff who would do a good job - staff that were staff because they were good staff that genuinely cared about the forum, not because they wanted to have power.

Part of the reason I now post much less often is because the forum has slowly been evolving to a fast-paced board with new posts every minute and too many members to keep track of in your head. When I first joined, the forum was small and slow enough that you could easily keep track of every thread on the forum, and almost personally know every member there was.

And I remember Peace_Machine, and his happy wonderful dancing stick avatar =P

[kongurous]

When I first joined warboards over two years ago, the first thing I noticed was that this forum was different from the rest of the internet. This forum was a peaceful sancutary in the middle of an evil flame driven cyberspace - a place where everyone got along nicely with little or no conflict.

I remember being told the story of how Warboards came to be - about how there once was another forum in which there was much pain and despair, and how the three great forum elders broke apart and set out to forge the gleaming online glory that we now know as Warboards.org. When the site was first founded, the creators were VERY careful to select staff who would do a good job - staff that were staff because they were good staff that genuinely cared about the forum, not because they wanted to have power.

Part of the reason I now post much less often is because the forum has slowly been evolving to a fast-paced board with new posts every minute and too many members to keep track of in your head. When I first joined, the forum was small and slow enough that you could easily keep track of every thread on the forum, and almost personally know every member there was.

And I remember Peace_Machine, and his happy wonderful dancing stick avatar =P


Get over it and try to fix it, then. A few people have posted their memories as if it was impossible to bring them back. Anything is possible with enough effort, 40,000 years of continued existence has shown this. If we stopped living in the past and tried to drive the future to the same standard... no, even better than the past, we could!

[bluemicrobyte]

I'll do my part if you do yours - cut down on spam, pump out the thoughtful posts, and welcome newbies with open arms =P

Simply being a role model for the new members can work wonders. Well.... at least I hope it can......

[Demon_Child]

Actually, I think a simple plea and reminder can go a long way. I consider myself to be semi-respected around here, and I don't expect to change all the members. But I am hoping those who know me will at least read what I have to say. If they like what I say, they may follow. Even with a handful of people working together, this place could really change.



Haha. You're right about one thing, you do put some effort into your posts. But I doubt all of this is your fault; it's just that people have been bitter towards one another.



Even though I wasn't a member of BF or anything like that, I've heard more and more people make analogies between the two forums. Like you said, if we rededicate ourselves, we can restore WB.


Oh, the irony of it all. :rolleyes: To bad no one (amongst the staff) really seemed to pay any attention to me (which included some of the other former staff members) when I basically make blunt statements and heated debates about how things haven't been getting any better and the fault basically lies with the staff and not the members themselves. So, if you aren't going to lead by example and practice what you preach, then you should not be a staff member at all. History is repeating itself, yet again.

[Veeger]

The first time I came here, I made mistakes, and being a sensitive newb, ran off.

I think we all have an experience similar to that.

I remember the first topic I posted, where I introduced myself. Most everyone, even Genocide, were kind and helped me get to know my way around the forum. I still go back and read that topic over now and again, and BI has a very valid point. Even in just the six months that I have been here, I have noticed a paradigm shift here on this forum.

Personally, I do not think that this paradigm is necessarily bad. I think that internet forums mature just like human beings do, and that this forum is starting to enter the rebellious teen years. This time next year, I think thing will even out.

On that note, however . . . Long live Genocide Alive!

The Kong will be with you. Always.

[Kingscrab]

On another note, my posts are substance incarnate. So true. Ass or not, GA's post are always well thought out and usually the only ones worth reading. I could personally care less if someone is being an ass. If the posts are witty and fun to read, bring it on. I'd rather read those types of posts than "OMFG! i love Pokemon.. squirt! blahblah..."!

[MatGeo]

I think we all have an experience similar to that.

I remember the first topic I posted, where I introduced myself. Most everyone, even Genocide, were kind and helped me get to know my way around the forum. I still go back and read that topic over now and again, and BI has a very valid point. Even in just the six months that I have been here, I have noticed a paradigm shift here on this forum.

Personally, I do not think that this paradigm is necessarily bad. I think that internet forums mature just like human beings do, and that this forum is starting to enter the rebellious teen years. This time next year, I think thing will even out.

On that note, however . . . Long live Genocide Alive!

The Kong will be with you. Always.

I believe Vegeer is right although this is not an excuse for the spamming and flaming that have occured on WB lately... still i totally support Bi's statement.

[DragonPaladin]

/joins whatever mob happens to be nearby.

Whoo hoo, we're going to change a forum!

[CrazyTom]

I joined not too long ago and had no troubles - people welcomed me, apart from Dunchy who pretends to think that I'm Maul - and I've liked this place enough to stay and read the threads people post. If the forum was really bad, there'd be hardly any new members. Obviously it can be better, but apart from being snapped at once or twice I've not really noticed anything majorly terrible. I hope I haven't made too many nOObish mistakes...

[Zeltaris]

Other things a friend remembers::

What happened to the, Join the Ranks of the Damned, Say Goodbye To Your Social Life, Post Late Into The Night Until Your Eyes Bleed, Type Until Your Fingers Break, Dedicate Your Soul To AJ, Service Fenguin Like You Mean It, Spank The Monkey With A Banana, Watch TheBB Play With His Rubix Cubes, Enjoy A MarkPyro Rant, Both Love And Hate theXenon As He Offends You, Guess JenJen's Real Name, What's ShawnManX Wearing, Is Dunchy Drunk Again, Why Battlecruiser Rules, Make Starcraft Maps With BSTRhino, Encourage bluemicrobyte In His Endeavors, Play Diplomacy With Cygnus, Dodge Dark_Soul74's Whips, Beware Dark_Viper's Venom, Huggle EdvardMunch Into Loving America, Play Arcade With Garrec, Beware Of Hidiho2, Spend Some Time With Holjfie, Match Wits With Mindslaver, Learn The Art Of The Poser With Moser, Relax Comfortably With Nahotnoj, Dream Of Down Under Wonders With Schwitzer, Get Elite With SoulreaverELITE, Conquer The Zerg With UED77, Howl At The Moon Till Noon With Werewolf91, Burn Flags With wraizyr, Count Down The Seconds On ZeroDarkStar's Porch, Sleep In You Guessed It A Hammock With Hammocksleeper, Blast Off With spaceman610, Smack Those Drums With coolguyz, and last, but certainly not least, Sing Along With AJ threads?

Awww fuxx... I don't show up there. I am not important, I deserve to die. *dies*

Anyways foo, here's Zelt's wishlist of things that can help us necro Warboards hoooooooooooooooo

1.- Memorable events
For example, when was the last time we had some stupid fad that anyone can join without having an I.Q over 61? Or something that n00bz0rz can look back upon and say "gawd daemn hoesfukit I wuz there when dat happenned beeyotch!" I still remembered how I worked my way into Warboards, it was back when we had the triumvirate craze. And as far as I can remember I wasn't the only newb who managed to squeeze into the crowd during the fad so ha!

2.- Warboards Superstar!
I don't think there's anybody who stands out among the members these days, with the exception of the staff and GA who seems to have become a golden goddess of some sort... err... whatever. The point is, there's currently no big magnetic personalities who can gather the crowd around themselves. We need pimpz h00!

3.- Free booze and ho's
Uhh... just thinking out loud.

4.- Lay down on the anti-spam policies.
No, I'm not saying that we should resurrect the SLA and pit it against AJ's midget army. I'm saying that if we demand that everybody in this forum be able to sustain an argument on the multiple uses of cat litter as armour, then were shutting out loads of potential posters who could be awesome blokes, despite having little more than hot air in their heads. Plus, some thread derailing and nonsense every now and then is fun and stuff and... yeah...

So... err... Qoo! :P

[hammocksleeper]

Damn, Zelt where'd you come from? Te falto, hombre. It seems like a very long time since I've last seen you. By the way I strongly agree on points two and three but I feel like we've actually had too many fads for people of IQ < 61. We need fads that are a little bit more intelligent. ;)

[kongurous]

4.- Lay down on the anti-spam policies.
No, I'm not saying that we should resurrect the SLA

That entire thing was your fault. I started the SLA, however you turned it into a "major" thing by forming a rival group.

[Tharisfal]

I love the old days. You could post a thread that dictates you have 24 IQ and everybody would still be laid back. All the great comics. Just for amusing us. The quotes were you could really laugh. Everybody posting links to sites for pure amusment. Now everybody is quite jumpy and all that. When I was first RPing the forum was all so active. Like 8 RPs going at a time. Now just 3. It's really sad.

but the AJ threads rocked.

[Sikawtic]

I say we kick anyone who registered after 2005 and then have a big orgy so we get to know each other better and then we can all be happy and peaceful.

[DragonPaladin]

don't think there's anybody who stands out among the members these days, with the exception of the staff and GA who seems to have become a golden goddess of some sort... err... whatever. The point is, there's currently no big magnetic personalities who can gather the crowd around themselves. We need pimpz h00!

You forgot Kong.

[GenocideAlive]

What the hell is a "golden goddess"?

[kongurous]

What the hell is a "golden goddess"?

A goddess covered in gold?

[U-238]

Errm, not to be rude or anything but IMHO arn't the last two posts exactly what this thread is about stoping? Of course that just may be me...


I remember the first post I made here. I was treated very nicely by the folks in the SC area. (Thus the reason I'm still here.) However I've definately noticed a change around here lately. Most of all I've noticed that there's been much, much more swearing going on around here. Now I, and probably quite a few others here, have parents walking around our computers that can easily read anything we see. And I don't think we want them to see that we're going to forums that have rampant cussing/swearing. What point does it serve? To me that doesn't bring across a very good comunity. I mean really, would you want to post in a forum full of people who cuss like truckers? And who'd tell you to "stfu noob!" and "don't post that here we've got a forum over here for that..." You know not all people around here are going to figure that out on their first post. Most times they have a question, they want it answered. So answer it! If you must tell them about another thread that was made for the purpose then do so but don't forget to add the answer to the problem too. Also all these random "drunk threads" are getting quite old. They're not even funney anymore. I remember the first drunk thread I saw was by dunchy and is was litteraly lmao. But now they're just stupid, fake, pointless, wastes of space. So yes there's definately been a change for the worse here in the past couple of months. And I sincerly hope that Warboards goes back to the unified community that it once was.


Btw @ Middy: You were only a mod for 2 weeks???????? O.o

[Black.Ice]

I think we should all start some community events, or something. Perhaps do some image competitions, or writing competitions, etc. Something to bring the community together.

I have to finish this post by saying, "Zeltaris!!! Much <3 <3 <3. Missed ya, you ho"

[AresOfOlympus]

well so far my Warboards experience has been fun. I definately will have to keep up with it. Im surprised I haven't pissed NEO off yet given my short history of post so far:D . NEO I lubbs ya man! IR rulez!

[Neo]

well so far my Warboards experience has been fun. I definately will have to keep up with it. Im surprised I haven't pissed NEO off yet given my short history of post so far:D . NEO I lubbs ya man! IR rulez!
Contrary to popular believe, I don't get pissed off and start banning people at the drop of a pin... I'm really rather leniant, much more then I ought to be.

Then again, people only see the negative actions :p

-Neo

[Veeger]

Contrary to popular believe, I don't get pissed off and start banning people at the drop of a pin...

Who said you get pissed at the drop of a pin? That doesn't piss you off: someone must either drop SarahK, or a cupcake. Those are the two things that piss you off.

As for this thread, I say we break in the new forum scapegoat with this one: it's all Dunchy's fault!

[Seal]

2.- Warboards Superstar!
I don't think there's anybody who stands out among the members these days, with the exception of the staff and GA who seems to have become a golden goddess of some sort... err... whatever. The point is, there's currently no big magnetic personalities who can gather the crowd around themselves. We need pimpz h00!
*cough*

What the hell is a "golden goddess"?
like me, but covered in gold / made from gold. i'd rather not be one since its somewhat hard to move around like that.

[Nahotnoj]

Other things a friend remembers::

What happened to the, Join the Ranks of the Damned, Say Goodbye To Your Social Life, Post Late Into The Night Until Your Eyes Bleed, Type Until Your Fingers Break, Dedicate Your Soul To AJ, Service Fenguin Like You Mean It, Spank The Monkey With A Banana, Watch TheBB Play With His Rubix Cubes, Enjoy A MarkPyro Rant, Both Love And Hate theXenon As He Offends You, Guess JenJen's Real Name, What's ShawnManX Wearing, Is Dunchy Drunk Again, Why Battlecruiser Rules, Make Starcraft Maps With BSTRhino, Encourage bluemicrobyte In His Endeavors, Play Diplomacy With Cygnus, Dodge Dark_Soul74's Whips, Beware Dark_Viper's Venom, Huggle EdvardMunch Into Loving America, Play Arcade With Garrec, Beware Of Hidiho2, Spend Some Time With Holjfie, Match Wits With Mindslaver, Learn The Art Of The Poser With Moser, Relax Comfortably With Nahotnoj, Dream Of Down Under Wonders With Schwitzer, Get Elite With SoulreaverELITE, Conquer The Zerg With UED77, Howl At The Moon Till Noon With Werewolf91, Burn Flags With wraizyr, Count Down The Seconds On ZeroDarkStar's Porch, Sleep In You Guessed It A Hammock With Hammocksleeper, Blast Off With spaceman610, Smack Those Drums With coolguyz, and last, but certainly not least, Sing Along With AJ threads?

Amen, I miss those days. I also miss when we had official WB gaming nights - BW, WC3, CS... *sigh*

I miss the multiquote two. Whatever happened to multiquote?

We should arrange a WB gaming night as a step to restore WB to its former glory.

[Seal]

Amen, I miss those days. I also miss when we had official WB gaming nights - BW, WC3, CS... *sigh*

I miss the multiquote two. Whatever happened to multiquote?

We should arrange a WB gaming night as a step to restore WB to its former glory.
multiquote is MIA from a forum upgrade. i looked around for it a bit when doing the last reply to this thread too.

[ChaosZon]

I remember a time when people hated spam, and that they'd strive to make their posts of a higher quality, not willingly indulge in it.

YOU LIE!

At the least, I find it hard to believe.

[QuothTheRaven]

Contrary to popular believe, I don't get pissed off and start banning people at the drop of a pin... I'm really rather leniant, much more then I ought to be.

Then again, people only see the negative actions :p

-Neohave you banned anyone yet?

[Seal]

have you banned anyone yet?
thats like asking a police officer "have you ever killed anyone" :p
but yes, i believe most mods have banned someone, usually just an advertiser or a random spammer nobody knows about.

[Neo]

if your really interested I've banned a few advertisers and thats about it.

I have banned people for infractions, but most bans like that last 1 to 3 days. So I don't really consider them "serious" or w/e

-Neo

[Ktan]

On the subjects of banning then, does that make SarahK's temporary, or permanent.

Please don't hurt me for asking...I just feel she's a bit...unecessary...

[Neo]

On the subjects of banning then, does that make SarahK's temporary, or permanent.

Please don't hurt me for asking...I just feel she's a bit...unecessary...
Sorry, but that is between the ban-er, and the ban-ee. It's not really any of your business.

-Neo

[Ktan]

Ok, fair enough. Just wondering :)

[Nahotnoj]

YOU LIE!

At the least, I find it hard to believe.

Lol, I remember when most people hated spam and Bluemicrobyte was the resident spammer. XD

[Kingscrab]

Ok, fair enough. Just wondering Just PM her, dude. Be careful though, Neo might get jealous if you start e-flirting with her. ;)

[Basan]

Btw @ Middy: You were only a mod for 2 weeks???????? O.o

No, he wasn't. But some events on his personal life lead him to 'retire'... and I won't ask 'bout it, nor should you. *Wink, wink (unless he tells)*
Although I must acknowledge that he was one of the finest mods that the SC sections met, not meaning any disrespect to GD or the now abroad BST' (with it's due revamp to SC.org). :)

multiquote is MIA from a forum upgrade. i looked around for it a bit when doing the last reply to this thread too.

Man *errm* woman, how I really still miss it... ;) although I must acknowledge that the duplicate tabs do a somewhat fit replacer (for those who use a multiple tabs browser). :P

Lol, I remember when most people hated spam and Bluemicrobyte was the resident spammer. XD

Those were the days... when I saw a BMB thread (some place else than at the TA) I simply ran for the hills. Nah, just kidding. :D

[Ktan]

Just PM her, dude. Be careful though, Neo might get jealous if you start e-flirting with her. ;)

*shudders*

I dunno, I prefer not to commune with her, it makes me feel all dirty...and not in the good way either...

[UMSLdragon]

I totally agree, as beeing the the n00b here, I've survived quite well, and I have you guys to thank here. Sure, we all love to bug and n00b, but there is a fine line between bashing and playing... (don't take the 'playing' wrong either :mad: )
I like the older WB post-ers, they are very... 'nice' and considerate, and I don't think I've noticed any spaming in the new members thread, good job ppl!

[U-238]

No, he wasn't. But some events on his personal life lead him to 'retire'... and I won't ask 'bout it, nor should you. *Wink, wink (unless he tells)*

I know all about his retirement. So I don't need to ask.

[Markpyro]

What the hell is a "golden goddess"?

Feeling Bad? Use the dunchy button!
http://pyrom.net/test/blameclick.png (http://pyrom.net/test/blame.php)

[U-238]

*Clicks dunchy button*

It's all dunchys fault that GA's what he is. :P

[Yoda]

It really is GA's fault, overall. He has the ability to create flamewars over intelligence/skill in the most unrelated of topics, such as the "Account registry thread." :rolleyes:

[GenocideAlive]

Thanks, Yoda. I'm glad I can always count on you for random hating. That reminds me, don't get all parched and worn out; did you drink your Hatoraide today? I know it's thirsty business, following someone around and hating on them at every chance you get. But I know you're a trooper, and you'll stick in there to hate on me at any chance irregardless of how obsessive and petty you ultimately turn out.

[Yoda]

Thanks, Yoda. I'm glad I can always count on you for random hating. That reminds me, don't get all parched and worn out; did you drink your Hatoraide today? I know it's thirsty business, following someone around and hating on them at every chance you get. But I know you're a trooper, and you'll stick in there to hate on me at any chance irregardless of how obsessive and petty you ultimately turn out.

Quoted for evidence of what I was talking about in my post.... Thank you, GA.

[GrassDragon]

Yoda, your post was also trolling. Everybody makes these kinds of posts every once in a while, but the idea of this thread is that everyone will make a concious effort to pull back on them a bit.

[Nahotnoj]

Feeling Bad? Use the dunchy button!
http://pyrom.net/test/blameclick.png (http://pyrom.net/test/blame.php)




:P
haha, thats great... we should make that a an offical forum button or something...

and then put a dynamic thingymagig in his sig that reports back live how many times he's been blamed.

[GenocideAlive]

Quoted for evidence of what I was talking about in my post.... Thank you, GA.
I rest my case...thank you, Yoda.

[Cheamilion]

If someone says something like that, don't make another post about it. Just PM them. No one else gets involved, or fighting, and the problem still gets solved.

But anyway, The forum may have went down in Qaulity. But like someone else said, that's just a part of forum growth.There's always one point where most the Vets have left, and the regulars, the ones between vets and newbs stage, have to take over. They are the ones who will shape the forum or the next era.

The forum has changed. There's lots of new people. I'm just returning from a long beak here. So i don't know how newbs are being welcomed. But I do remember the only thing that kept me coming here even a little bit was how i knew some of the people, and the ones i didn't welcomed me warm heartidly. The first impression is the most important.

Don't worry about spam, just ignore it, and staff take action when it gets bad enough. What it is like now will be hard, to impossible, to change, but prepare for the future, show the newbs how to act, and do the little you can atm.

At the other forum, we used to have an Adopt a newb program. I'm ure AJ, neo or some of the admins remember what i'm talking about. I think one of these programs might help. Just give it a try.

[DemonicArchon]

Ah!...Great topic ...I agree...'Course i'm just scared of spam..so..:p..But you know, it's all right..But really....I don't know what to say..But i guess that's why i left..plus the boards were getting quiet...Sorry i lost my train of thought..More on this later..;)

[kongurous]

Lol, I remember when most people hated spam and Bluemicrobyte was the resident spammer. XD

I've surpassed BMB.

Anyway... the past few pages of this thread have shown the quality of posts has fallen. Its gone from a suggestion as to how to help the forum, to simple small talk and spam. Come on people... we're better than this.

[Basan]

I've surpassed BMB.

In quantity? Undoubtedly. In quality? No way. :P

[kongurous]

In quantity? Undoubtedly. In quality? No way. :P

Thank you, Captain Obvious. I quote the last part of my previous post at thee.

Anyway... the past few pages of this thread have shown the quality of posts has fallen. Its gone from a suggestion as to how to help the forum, to simple small talk and spam. Come on people... we're better than this.

[Basan]

Thank you, Captain Obvious. I quote the last part of my previous post at thee.

And forgive me asking, but... you're helping in which sense!?! :rolleyes:
Lately, all around the site, I've been trying to improve my general posting quality although it might not show that much at 1st glance since it isn't much different from my usual manner in here. Can you simply say the same? But wth, I'm only generating further diatribes from both sides. Anyone pleasing may lock this already, 'cause to me it has served it's purpose a whole. Some will (seriously) try, while others... won't. And it'll sums up to this in my humble opinion. :P