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Tharisfal
07-09-2006, 6:33 PM
Directly: Like telepathy, telekinesis etc.
Indirectly: Induce cerntain moods to other people by using your mind, change another human's decision etc.

I think that the mind can do that. Not as far as going to "possesions" or "mind control". But to influnce directly would be a great feat. But you'd need some sort of training or aptitude.

Neo
07-09-2006, 6:53 PM
Do you mean like actively changing someones mind or something?

I've been known to manipulate people, ie: induce various moods by telling people what they want to hear, or stearing them in a direction that is favorable to me, or complimenting someone that might be able to help me.

If you mean like telepathic intruding on someones mind and like forcing them to do what you want? I think thats unlikely. I won't go so far as to say it's impossible, but I would say its unlikely.

I tend to believe that its possible to be able to "Read" people, and from there, manipulate them in some way (ie: Mother is frustrated, doesn't want to cook dinner, you suggest hitting your favorite drive thru when shes on her last straw, she gives in -- or: your in a dispute, you act like your "giving up" something "important" to appease the other party, when in reality it doesn't affect you all that much).

Err... or something like that :/

-Neo

Tharisfal
07-09-2006, 6:56 PM
Do you mean like actively changing someones mind or something?

No. Doing that without visiual contact or speaking. Using you're mind.

Neo
07-09-2006, 7:03 PM
No. Doing that without visiual contact or speaking. Using you're mind.
Then no, I believe its highly unlikely. But I have an open mind. So who knows?

gg for puns.

-Neo

GrassDragon
07-09-2006, 7:04 PM
Of course you can manipulate people. Telekinesis? Never seen somebody actually do it.

Black.Ice
07-09-2006, 7:18 PM
There's so much that we don't know about the mind, I would say it may be possible. For example, if there was sometype of scientific proof, I wouldn't be too surprised to hear about it. Basically, I don't go around thinking that people have telepathy / telekinesis, but who knows... it may be possible.

B.A.Baracus
07-09-2006, 7:27 PM
Interesting topic, no. People who believe they are "hypnotized" are convinced on a sub conscience level, so its very real for them. Like placebo's, if your convinced the "medicine" your taking will make you better, in some instances it actually can, its just the wonder of the human mind.
I would like to assume its similar to those highway church things, when the holy man hits a "sick" person, the person spazzes out-speaks in tongues, then gets up perfectly healed.

Its teh power o mind o sometang.

Neu(t)ral Damage
07-09-2006, 7:38 PM
All that's been observed that might influence anything are the brainwaves, and those don't do anything to influence another.

U-238
07-09-2006, 8:59 PM
Well your question can actually be split down two different paths. However the path your question takes I believe is highly impossible.

Markpyro
07-09-2006, 9:06 PM
Do you mean like actively changing someones mind or something?

If that were possible lawyers would've discovered it long ago... :rolleyes:

I often wish it were possible, but then I turn around and rationalize that I wouldn't want it to happen to me.

But then, what about those machines where you type things out or move a cursor on a screen by thinking, where the machine somehow senses a supposed brainwave that your brain emits and does necessary actions? If your brain emits waves that are detectable via machine, is it not completely outrageous to guess that there are some people who are more sensitive than others to these emissions? Though, the thought of being able to directly manipulating them is doubtful. I dunno.

U-238
07-09-2006, 9:10 PM
If that were possible lawyers would've discovered it long ago...

LMAO! Imagine it! Layers getting mass serial killers out of jain with advadced telepathy.

DragonPaladin
07-09-2006, 9:31 PM
Hmm...I usually try influencing people with physical objects (gun, knife, bomb, ransom note). I find it much more effective then my mind.

U-238
07-09-2006, 9:37 PM
Hmm...I usually try influencing people with physical objects (gun, knife, bomb, ransom note). I find it much more effective then my mind.

Yes, physical influence >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phsycic influence

GrassDragon
07-09-2006, 10:01 PM
But then, what about those machines where you type things out or move a cursor on a screen by thinking, where the machine somehow senses a supposed brainwave that your brain emits and does necessary actions? If your brain emits waves that are detectable via machine, is it not completely outrageous to guess that there are some people who are more sensitive than others to these emissions? Though, the thought of being able to directly manipulating them is doubtful. I dunno.
I'm pretty sure those don't detect "brainwaves". They are plugged directly into the brain and have electrodes stuck into different parts of the brain. Once the person learns how to do it, it's like moving their arms or legs.

Neo
07-09-2006, 10:26 PM
I'm pretty sure those don't detect "brainwaves". They are plugged directly into the brain and have electrodes stuck into different parts of the brain. Once the person learns how to do it, it's like moving their arms or legs.
No, generally its enough to just put the detector... thingy on the skin. TO implant something in the brain is a dangerous procedure.

-Neo

wa123
07-10-2006, 4:14 AM
nape, I don;t think it work that way, is just dreaming.

Markpyro
07-10-2006, 10:18 AM
I'm pretty sure those don't detect "brainwaves". They are plugged directly into the brain and have electrodes stuck into different parts of the brain. Once the person learns how to do it, it's like moving their arms or legs.
Really? I've only heard a bit about it. Well then, nevermind :confused:

GrassDragon
07-10-2006, 11:05 AM
No, you were right:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4074869.stm

GenocideAlive
07-10-2006, 12:55 PM
Impossible, sadly.

hammocksleeper
07-10-2006, 1:20 PM
Telekinesis - technology could very easily get to the point where one can control the motion of obects using only their brain. but it wouldn't be like you see in your anime cartoons or whatever, where a block is lifted in the air just by the mind. your mind would be connected (wirelessly or whatever) to a motor or something that responds to your brain commands

similar to the monkey thing that was posted.

Zergling
08-04-2006, 7:29 AM
Sure why not. i did that heaps of times to get out of detention, must be at least 8 times in a month so why not? Sure maybe i should stop throwing crap at the teachers and start doing homework but what fun is that? for now my answer does not change.

SHISHKABOB
08-04-2006, 3:12 PM
Hey Zergling this is the second thread that you have posted in that was a dead thread. This is called thread necromancy around here and it is frowned upon just as much as actual necromancy. So for your next post, check the date before you respond.