Next-Gen Consoles

[Staind]

I searched to see if this was posted before but I didn't find it -- so if it was my mistake. Regardless, which next-gen console will you be buying / are you looking forward to the most?

For me personally it's definitely Wii. The line up of games with the controller make it a heart-throb.

[Seal]

wii or bust

[Demon_Child]

I'll most likely get the Wii first (nostalgia ftw), then will get a PS3 later on when the price starts to drop.

[kongurous]

Wii and the 360. Maybe the PS3 afterwards. In that order.

[Demon_Child]

You haven't gotten the X-Box 360 yet, Kong? :o

[kongurous]

You haven't gotten the X-Box 360 yet, Kong? :o

Too expensive for my blood right now :P

[Nuts]

Xbox 360 when Halo 3 hits the streets.

Bonus: Splinter Cell: Double Agent

[xodkrm]

Wii for fun gameplay with your friends and such
Xbox 360 for solo play, good grafix, and online content
PS3 if you have too much money, and need to get rid of it quick

Im getting the Wii on release day

[pixels]

wii or bust
agree 100%

nintendo games are just fun, in my experience. so nostalgia wins this big time, as well as the console being fucking cheap in comparison. innovation also wins, because its doing things the other consoles arent.

if i want graphics busting games ill use my PC, because i dont have a HD tv and its a waste even bothering with the other two if you dont.

[Ubergopher]

I'm lookin' forward to all of them.
Wii(volution): Innovative control scheme
PS3: MGS:4 Guns of the Patriots, need I say more?
360: Halo 3, need I say more?

[Revelade]

PS3's out from the start. 600 bills is too much.

360 is still a lot at $400. However, Xbox Live seems nice.

$250 is much better with the Wii, but even then I'd have to wait for good games.

[kongurous]

$250 is much better with the Wii, but even then I'd have to wait for good games.

Has there been a confirmed price? Considering Nintendo's past prices for consoles (they've all been $199), there could be a range of prices.

[Sikawtic]

Wii and PS3. I stand by "SuxBox360 == piece of shit;"

I just put PS3 on your poll, because I want that one most.

[Staind]

Has there been a confirmed price? Considering Nintendo's past prices for consoles (they've all been $199), there could be a range of prices.
The exact price will come in Sept, although they have said that it will not cost more than $250 USD (as in they expect it to cost between $150 - $250USD, my guess is around $200).

[Spartan-II]

Wii and PS3. I stand by "SuxBox360 == piece of shit;"

I just put PS3 on your poll, because I want that one most.

He didn't ask your fucking opinion on the consoles. He asked which one you're going to buy.

I already have a 360, and my only complaint is there aren't many games worth getting so far. XBox Live is wonderful, and it hasn't given me any problems.

I'm going to buy the Wii too, just not when it first comes out.

[Modred]

I'm definitely going to pick up a Wii at some point, hopefully not long after it comes out. I'll be certain to get one by the time the new Smash Bros comes out (it was delayed from being a launch title, last I heard).

[Neo]

ps3 because i'm a square-whore.

in reality most likely a Wii.

-Neo

[EvilEggCracker]

Ps3. The line up of games for it are the best and it has the best graphics out of 'em all. I really don't understand why you would get an Xbox 1.5...

[kongurous]

Ps3. The line up of games for it are the best and it has the best graphics out of 'em all. I really don't understand why you would get an Xbox 1.5...

What an opiniated pile of rubbish.

[xodkrm]

Ps3. The line up of games for it are the best and it has the best graphics out of 'em all. I really don't understand why you would get an Xbox 1.5...

Just because something has better grafix, doesnt mean its better.
For example, Guild Wars (blech).
It has pretty, eye-catching graphics, yet no one plays it, and it is a failure to man kind. WoW has worse graphics compared to Guild Wars, yet it sells well, and lots of poeple play it. Why's that?

I wonder.

Gameplay > Graphics

[mcflurry_1982]

I have the 360 and loving it. I will get the Wii cuz ive wanted a nintendo system since the nes. i wont need to get a ps3 cuz my gf is gettin that.

[EvilEggCracker]

Just because something has better grafix, doesnt mean its better.

I never said it did. Hell Ps2 had worse graphics than the Xbox but sold more. But I'm bettin on the Ps3 to hold its gameplay at the same level but with better graphics.

[Spartan-II]

True. This console war is going to be fought on the pricerange. The exorbitant prices of the 360 and PS3 will keep away casual gamers, who will favor the Wii. I predict Nintendo making up for the GCN's slack with the Wii.

[dunchy]

I'm so buying a Wii.

The price is the first reason (250 bucks or so? Shimmy!!). I can't afford a 600-900 dollar system like the ps3 with games/controller or the 360 for that matter.

Games. X-box really has nothing to offer at all for me. Everything really 'exclusive' on the 360 is going to be for the computer anyways. The Ps3 may have square/mgs games, but I've done without those for the last 2 consoles, why start now?

Fun. When I'm with my friends, it'll be nice to throw some of my geekness they're way, and still be cool at the same time. That baseball game when drunk or even tennis will just rule. I am hoping that Nintendo jumps up the graphics in the wii sports, because my turds look better then the games featured in the E3 presentation. They looked N64 ages. Let's hope Nintendo, let's hope.

Overall though, it's all about the price for this poor Canadian Ponch.

[SuperPikachu2007]

I want the Nintendo Wii.

So I can play games such as:
- Super Mario Galaxy
- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Also for the GameCube)
- Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
- Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
- Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Under Development)
- Pokemon Battle Revolution (To Be Announced)

[Demon_Child]

I'm so buying a Wii.

The price is the first reason (250 bucks or so? Shimmy!!). I can't afford a 600-900 dollar system like the ps3 with games/controller or the 360 for that matter.

Games. X-box really has nothing to offer at all for me. Everything really 'exclusive' on the 360 is going to be for the computer anyways. The Ps3 may have square/mgs games, but I've done without those for the last 2 consoles, why start now?

Fun. When I'm with my friends, it'll be nice to throw some of my geekness they're way, and still be cool at the same time. That baseball game when drunk or even tennis will just rule. I am hoping that Nintendo jumps up the graphics in the wii sports, because my turds look better then the games featured in the E3 presentation. They looked N64 ages. Let's hope Nintendo, let's hope.

Overall though, it's all about the price for this poor Canadian Ponch.

You probably spend more than $600 a week on alcohol alone, dunchy. ;) Though the pleasure of beating you in SSBB while both of us are in a drunken (drunken brawl, lol) stupor will certainly be highly entertaining.

[Seal]

I never said it did. Hell Ps2 had worse graphics than the Xbox but sold more. But I'm bettin on the Ps3 to hold its gameplay at the same level but with better graphics.
ps2 sells better than xbox360 per month afaik.

[kongurous]

ps2 sells better than xbox360 per month afaik.

Screenshots or it didn't happen.

[SuperPikachu2007]

I love the Nintendo Wii! I gotta buy it when it comes to Wal-Mart in Independence, KS.

[Markpyro]

I love the Nintendo Wii! I gotta buy it when it comes to Wal-Mart in Independence, KS.
Going on a n00b hunt... :P

I'm planning on buying the 360 when Halo 3 comes out, or for Christmas depending on what I want at the time.

[Kazeofwinds]

At half the price of the other two, Wii FTW.

[mcflurry_1982]

I'm planning on buying the 360 when Halo 3 comes out,
a friend of mine is gonna do the same thing.

[Dusty]

Wii and 360. I love my halo and Super smash brothers looks great. $600 just for the system? Might as well buy a PC or a Wii and 360. PS3 and 360 are pretty much the same so why not get the cheaper of the 2 and the innovative Wii. plus that controoler for PS3 looks uncomeratble. You get fustrated and throw it will come back to you! Plus 360 has halo 3. Can't go wrong with Halo 3.

[Neo]

Wii and 360. I love my halo and Super smash brothers looks great. $600 just for the system? Might as well buy a PC or a Wii and 360. PS3 and 360 are pretty much the same so why not get the cheaper of the 2 and the innovative Wii. plus that controoler for PS3 looks uncomeratble. You get fustrated and throw it will come back to you! Plus 360 has halo 3. Can't go wrong with Halo 3.
The ps3 controller has been changed.

The PS3 comes with everything you need -- ie: there is no funky ass "premium or core" versions that make you spend 100 to 200 extra dollars on things like XBL subscribtions, or ethernet/network card/connector thingymabobs.

Plus, the PS3 has the whole bluray thing going for it... well see when the ps3 is released though, whather bluray really takes off.

Oh, and fyi, of the 3, PS3 is probably the most innovative, what withs its cell processor. I would also be wary of calling the ps3 and 360 "similar" since they really arent.

-Neo

[kongurous]

New processor = innovative?

[dunchy]

You probably spend more than $600 a week on alcohol alone, dunchy. ;) Though the pleasure of beating you in SSBB while both of us are in a drunken (drunken brawl, lol) stupor will certainly be highly entertaining.

Haha, I think that's on wednesdays alone! :D I'm really bad at SSBM on the Gamecube, but I was really, really good on the SNES. WE should have a wb night of Wii if it's (free and fun, with the big name games). I'm really wanting R.E. 5 to make a show, but I have a feeling that's a big nada for the Nintendo.

Uhh...Neo, make sure not to back yourself into that same corner you did before when we talked about the Ps3/wii/360. Anyone who read it up pretty much came to the conclusion you were soundly ...defeated? Vanquished? E-beated in terms of discussion. The Wakeboarder dude pretty much spun you around buddy.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/09/us-hardware-sales-in-may-ps2-on-the-rise-360-takes-a-dip/

There you go kong. In japan game sales the DS is just dominating. Look though, the ps2 is winning, as is the DS, and the PSP.

[Dusty]

dude if you count improved tech as innovative then evrey consul was inovative. Unless its something radically diffrent i don't count as innovative. Also what I meant was they target the same audience and basically the same style of games. no I think thw Wii is innovative becuase of its perhials and features like the remote. No the PS3 and X-box 360 are very simaler playig whise. and you forget that ps3 only has online capibilty the deveolpers have to make a net from scratch. Xbox live is based with microsoft so they charge a fee to pay for it. The core/premiuim is for ppl who want a xbox but can't afford all that extra stuff.

[Neo]

Uhh...Neo, make sure not to back yourself into that same corner you did before when we talked about the Ps3/wii/360. Anyone who read it up pretty much came to the conclusion you were soundly ...defeated? Vanquished? E-beated in terms of discussion. The Wakeboarder dude pretty much spun you around buddy.
dunchy, what the hell man? Yeah I was wrong on a few points, that didn't make what I said later on any less valid, or anything I just posted wrong. They did change the ps3 controller. You do have to pay extra, for the xbox360 you get to get the "advertised" features (wireless controllers for the core system, wireless net for both, etc...)

Plus, Online play for PS3 is free.

dude if you count improved tech as innovative then evrey consul was inovative. Unless its something radically diffrent i don't count as innovative.
The cell processor is unlike anything thats come before, from consoles or computers. Yes, I would call that innovation.

Also what I meant was they target the same audience and basically the same style of games.
I'm sorry, but this coming as an "attack" on the PS3 seems odd. Your defending the 360 this way? When the main game for that console is Halo bar none? And heres a generalization for you: Why is it that every other game for the xbox is uber-violent and/or bloody/gorey? I know there are a few that aren't like that, but a majority of the more popular games are.

no I think thw Wii is innovative becuase of its perhials and features like the remote.

Never said the wii wasn't innovative >_>

No the PS3 and X-box 360 are very simaler playig whise. and you forget that ps3 only has online capibilty the deveolpers have to make a net from scratch.
Uhm... dude, Sony has had online play for the ps2 for awhile now, its just not as advanced/well thought out as XBL. "from scratch" is not a true statement. Haha, in fact, I believe Sony had PS2 Online play first... they just did it really crappily.

Xbox live is based with microsoft so they charge a fee to pay for it. The core/premiuim is for ppl who want a xbox but can't afford all that extra stuff.

The core is the one that has nothing extra. The premium is the one that does have extra stuff with it.

Barring that, even the premium one lacks wireless (net) capabilities.

:/

I'm not saying the ps3 isn't expensive, but I don't see myself purchasing a 360 over 1 game. I can say, for instance, I would get the Wii for specific Nintendo titles, like SSBM, Mario Kart (lol), or things like Zelda, Metroid, etc... I can say for the PS3 I'm interested in it for SquareEnix games, or other games. But when I see 360, people always scream "HALO" as if it validated the spending money on a system I might play 1 or 2 games on total.

Oh, and pardon me for not being interested in a system that isn't (fully) backwards compatible.

-Neo

[dunchy]

dunchy, what the hell man? Yeah I was wrong on a few points, that didn't make what I said later on any less valid, or anything I just posted wrong. They did change the ps3 controller. You do have to pay extra, for the xbox360 you get to get the "advertised" features (wireless controllers for the core system, wireless net for both, etc...)

Plus, Online play for PS3 is free.

Calm down, calm down. But there was things you posted that were wrong, aka controller issues. I'm a litttle out of the loop with the cell processor and how innovative it is. Can you say in your own words how it's so amazing and spectacular? I remember people saying mode-7 with the SNES, that was innovative. How's the Cell so innovative? You've said it's the most innovation twice now, can you tell me why? :S

[Dusty]

how am i defending the 360 i'm just saying that 360+wii is the better deal. If oyu have the money and want a PS3 i don't care go ahead and buy one. I wouldn't buy one over WHAT THEY SAY is in it. I just don't trust corprate america I'd rather see it for my self then buy it right of the back. I personnally think that byeing a system right off the bat is a bad deal. Higher prices, can be buggy not very good games. Its your money I'm not here to make you spend it. I wish I had it though...

[mcflurry_1982]

I dont see why ms and sony charge so much for their consoles. they loose money on them anyway. its the games that bring in the profit for them. they should just charge at the most $250.

[Neo]

Calm down, calm down. But there was things you posted that were wrong, aka controller issues. I'm a litttle out of the loop with the cell processor and how innovative it is. Can you say in your own words how it's so amazing and spectacular? I remember people saying mode-7 with the SNES, that was innovative. How's the Cell so innovative? You've said it's the most innovation twice now, can you tell me why? :S
Err... I said it was innovative -- not that it was the most innovative (err?) of all O.o

From my understand the cell processor takes a whole different direction for... err 'processing' its been awhile since I've read anything technical on it, but I'm sure a short google or wikipedia trip could be most informative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_processor

Basically its an "entertainment" processor (haha). I think its got a limit of like 25 GFLOPS, which is pretty fucking huge O_o. Basically just means it can handle stuff like decoding/encoding better/faster then a normal desktop. Iunno. All I know is that, opposed to the xbox which just uses standard processors, the Cell is different. It could allow damn near seamless gameplay (read: no loading times -- ever). Heh. One can wish eh?

Not saying xbox/wii isn't a better deal, but I don't think I would get a 360 period... Personally the thought of purchasing the console, plus extra equipment to get it online, plus xbl subscribtion, to play maybe 1 or 2 different games just doesn't appeal to me.

Personally I'm much more interested in the Wii, and the DS or PSP, and the PSP more because of its emulation capabilities.

EDIT: I'm also interested in the PS3 because of its adoption of numerous open-source alternative/programs/projects.

-Neo

[Demon_Child]

Haha, I think that's on wednesdays alone! :D I'm really bad at SSBM on the Gamecube, but I was really, really good on the SNES. WE should have a wb night of Wii if it's (free and fun, with the big name games). I'm really wanting R.E. 5 to make a show, but I have a feeling that's a big nada for the Nintendo.

You're on, bud. Now that you mention it, having a WB'ers night on the Wii would be somewhat interesting if everyone is willing and able to join in. I can just picture it now; "The Match of the Century" (well, perhaps match of the year would be more closer to the truth) DC/Neo vs dunchy/Kongurous in SSBB. :)

[Ktan]

I must say, only the Wii really shows any real innovation. PS3 just tried to copy Wii and failed, and X-Box 360 is just the natural direction X-Bow was geared to go. Not saying the 360 is bad, it's frickin sweet, it's just the Wii is the only one to look past graphics for next gen. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hideo Kojima looking towards Wii when he's done with MGS.

[Dusty]

The only thing that bugged me about the Wii is the way nintendo annouced. "When you see the graphics you will say wow." Uh why not show me and stead of telling me?

[Neo]

You're on, bud. Now that you mention it, having a WB'ers night on the Wii would be somewhat interesting if everyone is willing and able to join in. I can just picture it now; "The Match of the Century" (well, perhaps match of the year would be more closer to the truth) DC/Neo vs dunchy/Kongurous in SSBB. :)
Another reason I want to start an ORG Network Console Gaming site.

I think theres a really large interest in such a thing... plus tied into online console gaming thats going to happen with the next-gens :o

Racing on Mario Kart
Beating each other senseless on SSBM

Hehe

-Neo

[EvilEggCracker]

PS3 just tried to copy Wii and failed

How did the Ps3 copy the Wii?

[kongurous]

How did the Ps3 copy the Wii?

The controller, namely.

[Ubergopher]

They definantly didn't copy the price.

[Revelade]

I want each of the three to do well. I like competition in business as the consumer benefits.

Each system has different games going for it. The games will determine at least, my choice in the system.

As consoles get newer, singleplayer games are going to be left behind. I mean now you have Xbox Live and such.

What drives me in a singleplayer game is the STORY. Something tells me it's going to be very hard to find a game without a crappy "SAVE THE WORLD" story in the next gen. Of course brilliant AI can also sell me a game like FEAR.

A multiplayer game for me has to be balanced. If the game can only be played offline, it has to be EASY TO LEARN. That way my friends don't need to spend years learning. If it's online, then it can have more depth to it.

So a console has to have games with either great plots, or medium difficulty multiplayer for my buy. Then again, I'll buy games that are radical like Katamari or Odama.

Neo is FFXIII one reason you're buying PS3?

[Demon_Child]

Another reason I want to start an ORG Network Console Gaming site.

I think theres a really large interest in such a thing... plus tied into online console gaming thats going to happen with the next-gens :o

Racing on Mario Kart
Beating each other senseless on SSBM

Hehe

-Neo

Are you certain that you would be able to find the time to keep up with all 7 websites (including WarBoards and the IRC channel) and still have some time to spare for gaming? You are also going to work yourself to death if you don't find some assistance for the ORG Network Console gaming website to which you are seriously pondering over, since console gaming extends to all sorts of game genre's, exclusive games for certain consoles, gaming consoles and games that date back from the 1970's to the Xbox360 (and eventually the PS3 as well as the Nintendo Wii). That will take up a lot of time and will probably require at least 7-10 people who are able to keep up with all of the games and consoles from yesteryear to the current lineups that are on the shelves today.

[Portmanteau]

Probably a Wii for the low price and innovation. Fancy controller.

[Dusty]

Ya it lets Starwars nerds do even worse stuff. A light saber duel game :O

[Biohazard]

Look at screen shots for the new call of duty game for the wii, you hold the controler(s?) like a friggin rifle, and when you are in a verhicle like a sterrin whell, how FRAPPIN amazing is that?!?!? Although it will no doubtedly have some bugs, they will probably release updated controlers...

[Neo]

To the FF13 question: No thats not the only reason I'd want a PS3, it ranks up there (im a square fan/whore) but its no the only reason =P

Sony didn't copy the Wiimote thing, yes they both have "motion detection" but the Wiimote has much more advanced capabilities then the PS3 controller... The PS3 MD tech is like an "add-on" rather then a full replacement like the wiimote could be used for.

Are you certain that you would be able to find the time to keep up with all 7 websites (including WarBoards and the IRC channel) and still have some time to spare for gaming? You are also going to work yourself to death if you don't find some assistance for the ORG Network Console gaming website to which you are seriously pondering over, since console gaming extends to all sorts of game genre's, exclusive games for certain consoles, gaming consoles and games that date back from the 1970's to the Xbox360 (and eventually the PS3 as well as the Nintendo Wii). That will take up a lot of time and will probably require at least 7-10 people who are able to keep up with all of the games and consoles from yesteryear to the current lineups that are on the shelves today.

Shortly, I am going to be smushing down all of my various kupatrix sites, and consolidating everything else so as to avoid to much stuff on that end. For ORG Network stuff, I've decided to take D2P into a different direction -- mainly it will be home to lots and lots of information for the game... rather then home to lots of submissions.

As for a gaming org site (or a kupatrix gaming site :p) the thing there is that I would be asking for help with it -- and the few times I've mentioned it, there seems to be quite a few people interested in helping out with such a site. On top of that, it would be cool to get "guest reviews/articles" from people like you (Demon Child) for people who might be interested in the site, but can't afford the time to devote to it.

Err... you know?

Basically, d2p will become less work then I had originally intended, and the other sites I "do" will become consolidated, or removed, and then I will be able to devote time to a whole new site. This time though, I will be getting help BEFORE the site goes live. On top of that, I want to poll the WB and/or the BF Community and see what they would like to see in a gaming console site.

I've got so many ideas. Like, for really popular games we could create whole new sub-sites -- like "ff.kupatrix.org/7" or "halo.kupatrix.org" or whatever, you know? Then you could hire admins for these subsites to take over :D

This will have to wait awhile though, mainly because I'm working on a brand new project for Kaervark :D

-Neo

[Sirion]

Definately getting a Wii. If not for the nostalgia alone, because the controller is extremely awesome. The possibilities are endless! It could bring new meaning to the term 'point and click.'

Besides, has anyone seen the knew Sonic game? It looks like they finally did Sonic in 3d the right way. And Super Mario Galaxy? I smell GOTY.

But that's all just my opinion.

Sirion out.

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

PS3 for sure. Killzone 2 and StarCraft: Ghost? Plus free online play? What is there else to say? Well, I better find a job...

[kongurous]

StarCraft: Ghost?

Ghost got canceled.

[Seal]

Ghost got canceled.
postponed indefinitely*

[Dusty]

PS3 for sure. Killzone 2 and StarCraft: Ghost? Plus free online play? What is there else to say? Well, I better find a job...

uh ghost was for xbox too. If they ever make :(

[Ktan]

PS3 is trying to replace the Personal Computer.

Sony, you fail.

Also, they can't even rip off nintendo's controller without screwing up.

[kongurous]

postponed indefinitely*

Don't get me started :P

[EvilEggCracker]

Also, they can't even rip off nintendo's controller without screwing up.

They didn't

And yes Killzone 2 looks amazing.

[Neo]

PS3 is trying to replace the Personal Computer.

Sony, you fail.

Also, they can't even rip off nintendo's controller without screwing up.
Have you read ANYTHING about the concepts of XBOX/360 from Microsofts point of view? Whereas Sony wants to create a truly all-in-one entertainment ... thingy. Microsoft wants your xbox to connect with windows, and be basically a computer that plays games >_>

Or some such.

And for the last time, they didn't "rip off" the Wii's controls. The PS3 motion-detection is like maybe 5% of what the wiimote can do. Its more like an extra "add-on" to the ps3 controller that would allow certain games to make use of it... rather then the Wiimotes ability to play games completely via motion-detection and stuff.

ZOMG THE PS3 HAS MOTION DETECTION?! I would be asking more along the lines of, why doesn't the 360 have this tech either? It seems the logical progression.

-Neo

[ZeroDarkStar]

They didn't

And yes Killzone 2 looks amazing.

by "looks amazing" i assume you mean "the computer generated movie, not in real time i was shown at E3 looks amazing".

[kongurous]

ZOMG THE PS3 HAS MOTION DETECTION?! I would be asking more along the lines of, why doesn't the 360 have this tech either? It seems the logical progression.

-Neo

My guess is it'll be a later peripheral, or just abandoned entirely. I don't know about you, but when I play video games, I don't want to be swinging my arms around to move my character.

[Dusty]

I would be asking more along the lines of, why doesn't the 360 have this tech either? It seems the logical progression.


Maybe becuase they know its hopeless to compete against the Wii on that point. Also xbox/xbox 360 does alot towards the one entertaintment center so lets review.

1.HD compatiable
2.Xbox live market
3.Music burning
4.DVD playing
5.PC networking
6.Surround Sound
7.Xbox live Arcade
8.Lots of great games!

As for the PS3 we only know what they tell us! It may even be delayed again!

[Ktan]

Have you read ANYTHING about the concepts of XBOX/360 from Microsofts point of view? Whereas Sony wants to create a truly all-in-one entertainment ... thingy. Microsoft wants your xbox to connect with windows, and be basically a computer that plays games >_>

Or some such.

And for the last time, they didn't "rip off" the Wii's controls. The PS3 motion-detection is like maybe 5% of what the wiimote can do. Its more like an extra "add-on" to the ps3 controller that would allow certain games to make use of it... rather then the Wiimotes ability to play games completely via motion-detection and stuff.

ZOMG THE PS3 HAS MOTION DETECTION?! I would be asking more along the lines of, why doesn't the 360 have this tech either? It seems the logical progression.

-Neo

Not when it sacrifices rumble, one of the greatest steps forward in control pad technology. The PS3 looks good, but it reeks of a big fat 'me too!' Also, I stated the X-Boc was no more of and advance than the PS3, just with shinier graphics than the X-Box and more scope for being lazy. The Wii is the only one showing any innovation. I'll possible end up with a PS3 anyway, but they are making some huge fudge-ups.

1. Losing the Rumble for some crappy tilt function that only is confirmed to be in one game
2. You can't transfer all your ps1/2 data without alot of data jiggery-buggery. Any old peripherals are dead meat, including rumble until they can be arsed to figure out that puzzle. And Nintendo could, so why can't Sony's uber-brains?
3. Trying to replace the PC, DVD recorder and stereo and anything else as an entertainment system. they'd put a frickin toaster in if they wanted.

Sony are trying to dominate the market by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us, instead of trying something new WITHOUT taking a step back from what made games great aswell. Also, I don't mind so much that the X-Box is very PC. It's made by Microsoft, for christ's sake.

"The PS3 motion-detection is like maybe 5% of what the wiimote can do."

How on Earth does that not reek of rip-off? What's more, they made a complete balls up of ripping it off by sacrificing the rumble. That's not a step forward. Next-Gen should make games more involving, like the Wiimote, not take OUT the reaction you get from a game. Taking away rumble for a rather passive tilt option is a mistake.

[Dusty]

Not when it sacrifices rumble, one of the greatest steps forward in control pad technology. The PS3 looks good, but it reeks of a big fat 'me too!' Also, I stated the X-Boc was no more of and advance than the PS3, just with shinier graphics than the X-Box and more scope for being lazy. The Wii is the only one showing any innovation. I'll possible end up with a PS3 anyway, but they are making some huge fudge-ups.

1. Losing the Rumble for some crappy tilt function that only is confirmed to be in one game
2. You can't transfer all your ps1/2 data without alot of data jiggery-buggery. Any old peripherals are dead meat, including rumble until they can be arsed to figure out that puzzle. And Nintendo could, so why can't Sony's uber-brains?
3. Trying to replace the PC, DVD recorder and stereo and anything else as an entertainment system. they'd put a frickin toaster in if they wanted.

Sony are trying to dominate the market by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us, instead of trying something new WITHOUT taking a step back from what made games great aswell. Also, I don't mind so much that the X-Box is very PC. It's made by Microsoft, for christ's sake.

"The PS3 motion-detection is like maybe 5% of what the wiimote can do."

How on Earth does that not reek of rip-off? What's more, they made a complete balls up of ripping it off by sacrificing the rumble. That's not a step forward. Next-Gen should make games more involving, like the Wiimote, not take OUT the reaction you get from a game. Taking away rumble for a rather passive tilt option is a mistake.

Amen brother and they say the Microsoft is in it for the money and Sony is hard core. There all in it for money. Sony is trying to get money by sayng we can do this we cando that while in all reality its not well done. And no rumble? WTF!

[Neo]

Maybe becuase they know its hopeless to compete against the Wii on that point. Also xbox/xbox 360 does alot towards the one entertaintment center so lets review.

1.HD compatiable
2.Xbox live market
3.Music burning
4.DVD playing
5.PC networking
6.Surround Sound
7.Xbox live Arcade
8.Lots of great games!

As for the PS3 we only know what they tell us! It may even be delayed again!
You can find an aweful lot about the PS3, all you have to do is search for it. So your telling me that Microsoft would never come out with similar tech thats already in use elsewhere? Haha, thats a load of bullshit.

Not when it sacrifices rumble, one of the greatest steps forward in control pad technology.

Rumble is TM Nintendo, you probably should say vibration. At any rate, this is all because sony is to fucking cheap to pay off Immersion. ZOMG LETS NOT OWE ANYONE ROYALTIES. It slike, what the fuck sony? As if you can't afford it?

The PS3 looks good, but it reeks of a big fat 'me too!' Also, I stated the X-Boc was no more of and advance than the PS3, just with shinier graphics than the X-Box and more scope for being lazy. The Wii is the only one showing any innovation. I'll possible end up with a PS3 anyway, but they are making some huge fudge-ups.

Oh right, because te Wii's ability to to browse the net is so important to gamers isn't it? :P

1. Losing the Rumble for some crappy tilt function that only is confirmed to be in one game

They didn't lose rumble for the tilting. The lost rumble because they won't pay the royalties to Immersions (read: cheap mofos)

2. You can't transfer all your ps1/2 data without alot of data jiggery-buggery. Any old peripherals are dead meat, including rumble until they can be arsed to figure out that puzzle. And Nintendo could, so why can't Sony's uber-brains?

Lol, well first off, its not like old ps1 stuff works with the ps2. Such as, my old dual shock doesn't work well with on the ps2, but is almost the same as the normal ps2 controller :/

The memory card shit is annoying, I'll agree. But chances are, you own a ps2, and I don't know about you, but I don't throw out my old consoles when I get new ones -- hell I still have an old NES and SNES sitting over there :D

3. Trying to replace the PC, DVD recorder and stereo and anything else as an entertainment system. they'd put a frickin toaster in if they wanted.
This is different then what the Xbox or Wii for that matter how? Granted the Wii focuses much more on gaming (something microsoft and sony could do well to remember), but thats not really a failing.

It would be awesome to only need 1 little box sitting there next to my tv... rather then 5. The PS3 is also interesting in this regard because it could be used for everything from old dvds, to new blurays

Sony are trying to dominate the market by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us, instead of trying something new WITHOUT taking a step back from what made games great aswell. Also, I don't mind so much that the X-Box is very PC. It's made by Microsoft, for christ's sake.

Meh, my point with that was that they seem to have forgotten why people buy consoles -- and I'll tell you know -- its not to fucking "organize their media" -_-

"The PS3 motion-detection is like maybe 5% of what the wiimote can do."

How on Earth does that not reek of rip-off? What's more, they made a complete balls up of ripping it off by sacrificing the rumble. That's not a step forward. Next-Gen should make games more involving, like the Wiimote, not take OUT the reaction you get from a game. Taking away rumble for a rather passive tilt option is a mistake.
OMG THEY CAME OUT WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR, ZOMG THEY ARE RIPPING <them> OFF?!!?!?!

Seriously, stop acting as if this is some serious tactical error on their part. The fact is they are cheap bastards who won't pay royalties to Immersion for the vibration. As for "ripping off the Wii" thats a load of bullshit.

Every next-gen console should include new tech like this, not just one.

Although personally I could really care less about the motion detection. I don't play games to swing my arms around like a fucking retard (sorry for that comment). I'm serious. If I find out that like every other game for the Wii is setup to use motion detection, then I might not be getting it after all.

The wiimote is interesting and such, but there should be no reason that one would have to site there and swing their arms around crazily. Its like a step backward -- I swear. Tactile feedback is important, this is why vibration is so important/useful in that regard.

If I make a full swing forward with the wiimote thingy, and the blow gets parried, will I "feel" that?

-Neo

[Dusty]

But whats funner then conducting 1812 oveture? But I'm not going to pay 600 hundread dollars for a consol. I'll upgrade my comp and buy a Wii with that money. Besides if they keep delaying were going to have a xbox 720 by the time it gets out.

[gordomay]

He didn't ask your fucking opinion on the consoles. He asked which one you're going to buy.

I already have a 360, and my only complaint is there aren't many games worth getting so far. XBox Live is wonderful, and it hasn't given me any problems.

I'm going to buy the Wii too, just not when it first comes out.

Spartan has Gears of War been released yet?

[kongurous]

Spartan has Gears of War been released yet?

GameSpot is your friend. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/index.html?q=gears%20of%20war)

[Ktan]

Damnit. Neo, I lost my response to what you had said. Oh well.

Basically, I was just saying that the ps3 has made a few mistakes. It appears what I have said has been blown out of proportion (perhaps by myself...). All it was trying to say is that the Wii is the only one to have tried to take a real step forward with the Wiimote. The Sony version isn't really such a big step. Sure, it may sink the Wii, but it;s genuinly interesting.

I'll end up with a ps3 and be blown away by some shininess or some silly little gimmick anyway. I'm just gutted that the vibration had to go because 'Sony couldn't be arsed.' That reeks of laziness.

[Dusty]

Or cheapness

[gordomay]

GameSpot is your friend. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/index.html?q=gears%20of%20war)

Thanks, Kong!

[Jedi_Templar]

I may get/buy the Wii. And maybe Xbox 360 when Halo 3 comes out (and if it's any good).

Other than those, I'm just not that impressed with the newest consoles. I have a PS (for FF7 and 8, yes, I know I'm late) and a Xbox, and to tell you the truth, I don't use them that often. Most of my gaming is on the PC.

But Wii... interesting selling points (cheapest of the three, the remote controller, total backwards compatibility, etc.). It'll either be the Wii or 360 that wins the next console war. PS3's gonna bottom out. High price, small library at the moment (only game people are talking about is MGS4), and what with Sony's reputation with the rootkits recently, a lot of people are pissed at them.

But what the hell do I know?

[Neo]

Damnit. Neo, I lost my response to what you had said. Oh well.

Basically, I was just saying that the ps3 has made a few mistakes. It appears what I have said has been blown out of proportion (perhaps by myself...). All it was trying to say is that the Wii is the only one to have tried to take a real step forward with the Wiimote. The Sony version isn't really such a big step. Sure, it may sink the Wii, but it;s genuinly interesting.

I'll end up with a ps3 and be blown away by some shininess or some silly little gimmick anyway. I'm just gutted that the vibration had to go because 'Sony couldn't be arsed.' That reeks of laziness.

I didn't mean to come across as hostile. I've you got it a few times I was bitching about sony to :p

I'm actually very very hesitant over the Wii now. At first I was deadset that I would get it (not as soon as it comes out, but you know, eventually)... But I have this really strange thought that they are going to stuff the motion detection into EVERY GAME for ANY AND ALL reasons... and I'm really not interested in play every single game like that.

Couple that with the fact that I can play old games now on my computer (with a controller!) via ZSnes and others (of which, I'm sure ZSNes will be ever so much more powerful then Nintendo's Virtual Console).

Theres my little rant. :P

-Neo

[EvilEggCracker]

Weren't Sony planning Motion Detcting before Nintendo told everyone that the Wii would be using motion sensing technology?

[kongurous]

Weren't Sony planning Motion Detcting before Nintendo told everyone that the Wii would be using motion sensing technology?

Sources or it didn't happen.

[Ktan]

I didn't mean to come across as hostile. I've you got it a few times I was bitching about sony to :p

I'm actually very very hesitant over the Wii now. At first I was deadset that I would get it (not as soon as it comes out, but you know, eventually)... But I have this really strange thought that they are going to stuff the motion detection into EVERY GAME for ANY AND ALL reasons... and I'm really not interested in play every single game like that.

Couple that with the fact that I can play old games now on my computer (with a controller!) via ZSnes and others (of which, I'm sure ZSNes will be ever so much more powerful then Nintendo's Virtual Console).

Theres my little rant. :P

-Neo

Lol, fair enough, me neither.

And I dunno if Sony did come up with it first. It's just that it seems they revealed it after the wii. Meh, doesn't really matter.

But I agree with you on the whole 'every game' thing. Imagine having to play every ps2 game via eye-toy. It'd get old quite quick. But I'm sure Nintendo will get it right. All they need is a decent Next-Gen Star Wars game and they've pretty much struck gold :)

Anyone hear a 'vwwwwwwwoooom' over there? Amen to that!

[Dusty]

tHat was my idea ktan. Star Wars Nerds Rejoice :P

[dunchy]

Sources or it didn't happen.

He was asking a question not making a statement dude...

[kongurous]

He was asking a question not making a statement dude...

Sources as to why he thought they did.

[Neo]

I've always wondered why Sony hasn't been plugging the EyeToy :/

-Neo

[Dusty]

Maybe becuase they realized that there wasn't a really a good market for them >.> <.<

[Biohazard]

I cant wait to play the first starwars game on Wii, Amen brotha!!

[Dusty]

Nerd1:Light saber throws are gay!

Nerd2:So are double ended sabers!