Eve Online [Archive]

Toucan

06-13-2006, 2:26 AM

If you haven’t had a look at this it is definitely worth one.
EVE online is an MMO that is set in space and it is an awful lot of fun.
At the moment there is a free 2 week trial available, all you need is a valid email address to access it. The client can be downloaded for free, I think it is about 540meg.
Is there anyone around WB who has played this for a while and might have some tips? I'm only on my 8th day in.
Anyway you can check it out here. (https://secure.eve-online.com/ft/?aid=100972&nogreet=1)

kongurous

06-13-2006, 2:29 AM

Never played it, and WoW is enough for me. I'll look at the trial... as long as I don't need to provide contact information, anyway.

Aquarian

06-13-2006, 6:49 AM

I've played it for a while a long time ago. Didn't really like it.

Modred

06-13-2006, 1:54 PM

I know Orodreth played this quite a bit. He seemed to like it a lot, and I was interested in trying it out. Maybe I'll download the trial.

Greyscale

06-13-2006, 6:52 PM

I'm currently into EVE for the summer. It gives me something to do after work.

kongurous

06-17-2006, 2:18 AM

If only I could afford to pay this and WoW every month. I'm absolutely in love with this game.

Darmago

06-17-2006, 9:50 AM

I played it with a two week trial but lacked sufficiant funds to continue playing it. I made a newbie pirate^^

Toucan

06-17-2006, 12:41 PM

If only I could afford to pay this and WoW every month. I'm absolutely in love with this game.

It had that effect on me as well, I stopped playing WoW all together and started playing this.
You can just about set a course for any star in the galaxy and go, it's awesome.
I have been pod killed once though, the game is entirely pvp driven, one must be careful in the less secure regions of space.

hammocksleeper

06-17-2006, 2:18 PM

I'm gonna download it and do the free trial, at the recommendation of my friend Toucan. Let the record show that this is my first and probably only venture into the dark realm of MMOs....

kongurous

06-17-2006, 6:23 PM

I was in a huge pirate/corporation fight last night. I stayed away from the fight (I had no intention of dying without selling my mining load first) but it was awesome.

Toucan

06-17-2006, 8:53 PM

I started mining at the start but pretty much just work for the home guard now, at present they pay about 67000 ISK per job, plus get all sorts of goods off ships that I destroy.
They pay even more when they send you to assassinate some one.

Darmago

06-17-2006, 10:18 PM

I loved my kestrel... in my corp I was the bodyguard for our newb mining expeditions. But I much prefered stalking and destroying newbs who joined our arch nemisis.(mostly because if it was anyone with somthing higher than a frigate I would be so podkilled)

Toucan

06-17-2006, 10:32 PM

(mostly because if it was anyone with somthing higher than a frigate I would be so podkilled)
Ya, my ship (Merlin class frigate) was out of controll on the first hit the other night, there are some nasty weapons available, can't wait to get my hands on some. :D

Greyscale

06-17-2006, 11:33 PM

Anyone know a good corp I could join? Toucan, what corp are you in?

I should post some SS of my ship 'n such.

Toucan

06-18-2006, 12:28 AM

I joined a corp. called The Valour.
They claim they are about to get into space station building and capital/battle ship construction witch I am very interested in learning about, but lets face it, until I do the 21 days to get learning to level 5 so I get the 2.3x learning speed bonus everything is going to take a while. When you start you learn at 1 x normal speed, at learning level 5 you learn at 2.3 x normal speed, so a skill that would take 5 days to learn would take less than 2 and a half days.

Darmago

06-18-2006, 12:33 AM

Anyone know a good corp I could join? Toucan, what corp are you in?

I should post some SS of my ship 'n such.

screen shots are boring unless they are amarr...

just post the specs...

Greyscale

06-18-2006, 12:54 AM

Specs, eh?

Lets see...

Minmatar Rifter-
------------------
High:
2x 125mm Railgun I w/ Antimatter Charges
2x Rocket Launcher I w/ Thorn Rockets

Medium:
1x Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters

Low:
1x Overdrive Injector System I
1x Small Armor Repairer I
1x 100mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I

I had a Galente Catalyst, but I lost it to two NPC Crusiers due to lag on my end. :(

Toucan

06-18-2006, 1:11 AM

Caldari Merlin Class Frigate
35 on the power grid.

Hi Power.
1 x 150mm Compressed coil gun, optimal range 14km (22km with current bonus)
2 x upgraded "Limo" missile launchers. The first fitted with piranha missiles that hit with EM damage for shield disruption, the second sabertooth that hit with explosive damage for wrecking armor. There usually effective from about 20Km, there proper range is hard to work out LOL.

Medium power
Small clarity ward booster I

Low power
Small automated carapace restoration I
Ballistic missile control system I

kongurous

06-18-2006, 2:05 AM

I'm packing a Navitas with the crap I started with :P

Darmago

06-19-2006, 4:39 PM

Caldari Ibis

High:
Civilian gattling railgun
Basic miner

I got another trial account...

Toucan

06-19-2006, 6:00 PM

Caldari Ibis

High:
Civilian gattling railgun
Basic miner

I got another trial account...
I have been snapped back to that Ibis 4 times now. (Thank god for starship insurance)
I was approaching a stargate last night, I was reviewing my skills so I wasn’t paying attention for a moment, all of a sudden BOOM, I look up and every ship's gage is red! Though I did manage to warp my pod out.

kongurous

06-19-2006, 6:46 PM

I went to the EVE Gate and left a message. It owned :)

Greyscale

06-19-2006, 7:16 PM

We should get together and do a little pirate hunting sometime. My in-game name is Be'rar.

hammocksleeper

06-19-2006, 8:34 PM

My in-game name is hammocksleeper....

currently I have an Amarr Punisher (lvl3 frigate)

3x 150mm railguns
civilian shield booster, afterburner and armor repairer

but yeah we should all get together and team up on pirates or something. :)

kongurous

06-19-2006, 8:37 PM

someone give me enough money for a punisher and money :P

Darmago

06-19-2006, 9:01 PM

as of 10:30 tommorrow morning I'm in a caldari kestrel

oh, and on my ibis, I switched out the miner for a 75mm gatling rail gun with anti-matter charges

Giggilyomeromicon

06-19-2006, 9:54 PM

Heh, this game was origionaly a Homeworld modification. Funny how things can turn out . ..

kongurous

06-19-2006, 10:02 PM

Heh, this game was origionaly a Homeworld modification. Funny how things can turn out . ..

Prove it.

Greyscale

06-19-2006, 10:04 PM

Prove it.

Indeed.

hammocksleeper

06-19-2006, 10:11 PM

Prove it.
Indeed.

jeez guys, what's the big deal?

kongurous

06-19-2006, 10:47 PM

jeez guys, what's the big deal?

I want proof to Giggil's claims. Homeworld's a RTS... plus the game engines are completely different. Eve can't have been a mod.

Greyscale

06-19-2006, 10:59 PM

I want proof to Giggil's claims. Homeworld's a RTS... plus the game engines are completely different. Eve can't have been a mod.

Yeah. Giggily must be thinking of something else. This (http://www.eve-online.com) is EVE. Created and maintained by CCP, which is based in Iceland.

Zerg_eater

06-19-2006, 11:18 PM

Giggilyomeromicon

06-20-2006, 12:08 AM

Okay, give me a while, I need to dig around long forgotten parts on the internets.

EDIT: Bah, I know what I'm talking about. Eve Online (back in 2002-2003) was origionaly a mod for Homeworld. The official Homeworld website had a link to the old Eve site, but it looks like both have gone off the web. The mod version of Eve died when it was bought by some publisher, and they made/used another game engine, and created a stand alone game. Kinda like counter-strike. I can't find any history Eve Online anywhere on the net, but I know its true. My brother found out somehow, maybe I'll ask him where >.>

Modred

06-20-2006, 12:43 AM

The Homeworld2 EVE mod (http://mods.moddb.com/7263/homeworld-2-eve-mod-working-name/)

This is a mod set in the EVE Online universe, enabling players to command fleets of ships from the game EVE Online, through the Homeworld 2 Engine.

What the Mod Will offer:

A strategy game very much like that of homeworld 2, only based in the EVE Online universe using EVE Online ships, in the Homeworld 2 engine.
(hopefully) 2 single-player campaigns set in the timeline of the Amarr Reclamation (The Amarr-Minmatar War) and the civil war between the Caldari State and the Gallente Federation.
4 Player Races - The Amarr Empire (religous zealots who believe it is their God-given right to enslave others in order to bring God's message to the galaxy), The Caldari State (A mega-capitalistic nation ruled by corporations), The Minmatar Republic (A republic formed by the tribal cultured, primitive appearing Minmatar after winning freedom from their Amarr enslavers.) and the Gallente Federation, the only democratic nation in EVE, with strong beliefs in freedom. (It should be noted that all races in EVE are of human origin)
A skirmish mode
A large range of ships from the EVE online universe.

I believe you have been disproved, Giggilyomeromicon.

kongurous

06-20-2006, 12:46 AM

Giggilyomeromicon

06-20-2006, 12:49 AM

The Homeworld2 EVE mod (http://mods.moddb.com/7263/homeworld-2-eve-mod-working-name/)

I believe you have been disproved, Giggilyomeromicon.
Keyword, HOMEWORLD, not homeworld 2. If I said the mod died in 2002, how could it be a mod for Homeworld 2, which came out in 2003? And if this was the mod I was refering to from 2002, why was it started in 2006?

Counter-strike wasn't given a new engine, the people who made it were taken in by Valve and CS 1.6 still uses the HL1 engine.
I did say kinda . ..

Darmago

06-20-2006, 1:16 AM

Hammock got podkilled and kong got his first ship blown to smithereens and his second ship caught on fire. I escaped without even scratching my paint.

Greyscale

06-20-2006, 1:28 AM

Hammock got podkilled and kong got his first ship blown to smithereens and his second ship caught on fire. I escaped without even scratching my paint.

Damnit. Someone should tell me these things. I want in on the action. :P

kongurous

06-20-2006, 1:32 AM

Hammock got podkilled and kong got his first ship blown to smithereens and his second ship caught on fire. I escaped without even scratching my paint.

I have other ships, dude :P

Toucan

06-20-2006, 4:02 AM

So how is everyone's skill's going?
The 3 most important skill's in the game bar none at the starting levels are 1. Learning 2. Analytical Mind and 3. Instant recall.

Learning enhances Perception, Analytical Mind enhances Intelligence and Instant Recall enhances memory, all 3 will increase learning speed.
For example, if you have none of these you will learn at a rate of 1x so a skill like Standard Missiles Level 5 will take about 22 days to complete (skills develop in real time weather you are logged in or not.
If you level all three of the before mentioned skills to level 5 you will learn at a rate of 2.3x so a skill that would take you 22 days would then take about 10.

I have levelled things I use everyday to level 4, missile launcher operation(4), small missiles(4), Small Hybrid Turrets(4), Targeting(4) (VERY VERY Important), sharpshooting(4), Warp drive operation(2) (you only need to do 1 level of that and you can warp 70AU in an Ibis) Shield upgrades(1), engineering(2), Armor upgrades(1), weapons upgrades(1), science(3), cybernetics(1), Drones(1), scout drone operation(1), don’t know why I did those 2, I don’t have a drone bay. Plus there are others I just cant think of right now.
I was thinking I was going to concentrate on missiles, become a big missile platform, what are you guys planning.

hammocksleeper

06-20-2006, 9:31 AM

Damnit. Someone should tell me these things. I want in on the action. :P

what's your name on EVE so I can add you to my buddy list? my name is just "hammocksleeper"

Darmago

06-20-2006, 9:34 AM

Learning enhances Perception

the basic learning skill improves all attributes by like... 2 or 5 %

spatial awarness or somthing is preception

Modred

06-20-2006, 7:12 PM

If I said the mod died in 2002, how could it be a mod for Homeworld 2, which came out in 2003?
Because you, and whoever told you this, are mistaken.

I've googled this for a while, and found lots of comparisons between Homeworld and EVE Online, lots of people who played Homeworld who now play EVE Online, but no mention whatsoever of EVE originating from Homeworld. Things like that don't disappear when only two web pages go down.

As an example, check out this Google search for "infoceptor warcraft 3 conversion." (http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=infoceptor+warcraft+3+conversion&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

As you can see from that link, the vast majority of pages under that search are referring to the failed Warcraft III SC Total Conversion that Infoceptor was making prior to WarIII's release. Why doesn't a similar search for "homeworld eve mod" turn up something similar? Even "homeworld eve mod -2" (to knock out homeworld 2) doesn't turn up any mention.

You're chasing a phantom.

Darmago

06-21-2006, 4:59 PM

I'm getting paid 29000 ISK to take out my agents garbage w00t

Giggilyomeromicon

06-21-2006, 5:10 PM

Nobody told me this, and I'm not mistaken. It was either this online, or another space game called Eve that became an MMORPG.

kongurous

06-21-2006, 5:11 PM

Nobody told me this, and I'm not mistaken. It was either this online, or another space game called Eve that became an MMORPG.

You've got no proof of this, we have no reason to believe you :P

Toucan

06-21-2006, 6:15 PM

I came across a good complex list, complex's are the Eve equivalent of dungeons in WoW, show up, blow up a cargo rig, all hell breaks loose, survive it then pick up the loots, easy.

You can see the list of complex's HERE. (http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/complexes.php?order=complex_level&dir=ASC&page=1)

Greyscale

06-21-2006, 6:17 PM

what's your name on EVE so I can add you to my buddy list? my name is just "hammocksleeper"

Is that your char name or account name? I was talking to someone named hammocksleeper earlier, and he said he was from china :o . Was that you fucking with me?

My name (as stated earlier in this thread) is Be'rar.

hammocksleeper

06-21-2006, 9:14 PM

Is that your char name or account name? I was talking to someone named hammocksleeper earlier, and he said he was from china :o . Was that you fucking with me?

lol we have no warboard in china. i dunno y u message me. but hooever u r thanks 4 being my freind :P

kongurous

06-21-2006, 9:17 PM

Greyscale

06-21-2006, 9:20 PM

lol we have no warboard in china. i dunno y u message me. but hooever u r thanks 4 being my freind :P

I'm just too damn gullable. :) I'll kill you later.

hammocksleeper

06-22-2006, 12:47 AM

I'm just too damn gullable. :) I'll kill you later.

hahahha

---------

Hey look, here is a screenshot of my ship, with a flaming, smoking ball of fire on the front of it. Pretty sweet.

http://www.warboards.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4147&stc=1&d=1150951651

kongurous

06-22-2006, 1:17 AM

Lores Vibben is me, btw.

Kingscrab

06-22-2006, 1:19 PM

http://www.warboards.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4147&stc=1&d=1150951651 This game looks fuckin' awesome! I might try it out... :D

Darmago

06-22-2006, 2:29 PM

kongurous

06-22-2006, 7:24 PM

http://up.kupatrix.org/f/28/trash.jpg

this is why you should not be minmatar...

your basically flying around a glorified peice of trash...

You don't get a hull untill you get somewhere in the level 2 or three frigate range

Somewhere on this thing is 100+meters^3 of storage space 0.o

You can easily gain a level 3 frigate skill during character creation. Besides, a Rifter frigate is the fastest fucker of it's kind. 368 m/s top speed, unmodified.

Darmago

06-23-2006, 4:53 PM

Caracals for the win... 167m/s but five missile hardpoints and about 3k hitpoints if not more...

kongurous

06-23-2006, 5:22 PM

Caracals for the win... 167m/s but five missile hardpoints and about 3k hitpoints if not more...

My Condor goes much faster :)

Darmago

06-23-2006, 5:57 PM

My Condor goes much faster :)

my missiles go much faster-er

Kazeofwinds

06-23-2006, 7:08 PM

Toucan

06-23-2006, 7:25 PM

I've got a Caldari Ospery(Named it the "Panty Raider" ...Seemed funny at the time) sitting in drydock until I can get a job to pay my monthly server fees again.

Job hunting blows....but I need server fee money....
Shame you aren't down here in Australia, we are like 18000 workers short in Western Australia alone, anyone who is unemployed and lives here at the moment is nothing more than a bum.
My Condor goes much faster :)
The Condor outruns my Merlin as well, but the Merlin does outgun the Condor.

Darmago

06-23-2006, 9:31 PM

there is a direct correlation between its guns(x[this includes mining turrets and cargo space]) and speed (y) on ships...

y=-x+500

take a ship with no guns (i.e. shuttle) x=0 and therefor y=500

I've gotten two condors from missions and I have yet to want to use one for its speed

kongurous

06-26-2006, 4:04 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, I just bought an Iteron Mk. II. What should I name her?

hammocksleeper

06-26-2006, 12:18 PM

Kong, where do you get all this money from?

btw I'm way behind now that I was gone for four days.

Toucan

06-26-2006, 1:10 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, I just bought an Iteron Mk. II. What should I name her?
How about The Giant Bullseye, lets face it, at our level thats exactly what the damn thing is.
Ok, I supose I better get a mining rig togeather and start filling that barge baby of yours up. :)

kongurous

06-26-2006, 2:39 PM

How about The Giant Bullseye, lets face it, at our level thats exactly what the damn thing is.
Ok, I supose I better get a mining rig togeather and start filling that barge baby of yours up. :)

It takes an hour to fill, and a full load sells at 170k or so. Go on, start fillin, I got plenty of room.

Greyscale

06-26-2006, 4:52 PM

I need to meet up with you all sometime. I could run defence.

BTW, I got 5mil from a pirate last night. He used me to teach a friend PvP, and I was such a good boy about it that he gave me 5mil. :p It was an awsome expierence. I actually took out half his armor before my ship was blown.

Sperate

06-27-2006, 2:19 AM

I just ran out of sub. money.. soon as I have it, I'll be back in. My current specs are...

Anfauglir XI, a Wolf-class Minmatar Assault Frigate

High: 4x 200mm Autocannon IIs, 1x 'Upir' Small Nosferatu
Mid: 1x 1mn Afterburner II, 1x 'Langour' Stasis Webifier
Low: 1x Small Armor Repper II, 1x True Sansha Kinetic Hardener, 1x Dark Blood Thermal Hardener, 1x Gyrostabilizer II

Total price: 65m, with discounts from my contacts.

I have 6m skillpoints, and 54 skills.

Anyone want to duel? :)

Toucan

06-27-2006, 2:33 AM

I have 6m skillpoints, and 54 skills.

Anyone want to duel?
Wow, my toon has like 15% of your toon's skill.
It would be great if you wanted to come fly with us, we could learn allot from you.

While we are on that note, what do you think of using a Caldari Cormorant class destroyer as a low level mining rig. None of us have the skill or money to set up a proper barge yet, I was thinking with the Cormorant we could outfit it with like 5 x Tech II mining lasers and still have enough power for adequate defense in .5 and more secure areas.
Just need to decide where we are going to mine and get some password protected security containers anchored out there.

kongurous

06-27-2006, 2:33 AM

While we are on that note, what do you think of using a Caldari Cormorant class destroyer as a low level mining rig. None of us have the skill or money to set up a proper barge yet, I was thinking with the Cormorant we could outfit it with like 5 x Tech II mining lasers and still have enough power for adequate defense in .5 and more secure areas.
Just need to decide where we are going to mine and get some password protected security containers anchored out there.

I've (probably) got enough money for a barge <_<

Hell, I've got such a huge cargo space it takes an hour to fill it full of veldspar.

Toucan

06-27-2006, 2:37 AM

I've (probably) got enough money for a barge <_<

Hell, I've got such a huge cargo space it takes an hour to fill it full of veldspar.
Might do mate, but it is going to be a month or more before any of us will have the skill to run a strip miner.
The only barge we could get only has 1 high power mount, I think we will do better with a non authentic barge untill we increase our skill and can run the strip miners.

Sperate

06-27-2006, 2:40 AM

I can't stand mining, I'd rather farm low-level drone complexes. ._. From what I do know..a better setup would be to get Ospreys. They get a mining bonus, and nearly as many mining lasers. The bonus quickly outstrips the ability of a dessie to have more, and they're also stronger (though not much) Get someone else to run defence for you. And jetcan mine. Passworded cans are way too tiny. Barges take a fair amount of skills, and only the tier three is worth anything out of the t1 barges. No idea on price, offhand, but it's expensive, as are the strip miners.

Toucan

06-27-2006, 5:45 AM

Hmmm, the Osprey seems like a very expensive option at this time, it's a cruiser, the Cormorant is a destroyer and is less than half the price.
Though the cruiser option seems like a good one for less secure areas. No reason why we cant get a destroyer rig, then in time get a cruiser rig and eventually have both running all the time and eventually replace them with mining barges fitted with strip miners. The price of good mining barges and strip miners makes the cost of setting up the original operation chicken feed by comparison.

Anyways, for those that do not know, an unofficial warboards channel has been setup in Eve, just click on the channels button, type in warboards and click join.

Sperate

06-27-2006, 5:57 AM

Dosn't matter. Osprey is very much worth the effort. Getting the Corm first is a waste of money.

I still say running complexes/missions/ratting will get you better money and be more fun, but to each their own...

Darmago

06-27-2006, 11:46 AM

If we're only doing rats, look me up I'll run D for this mining op
I'm not sure about the cormorant/osprey thing. The Osprey only has 3 hardpoints but the neither the cormorant or the ospray have enough CPU to run more than three Miner II's...The osprey can run three, the cormorant can run two. So you have a choice between two miners and a cheap ship, or three miners on an exensive ship with a mining yeild bonus... By far the best idea would be to get three tech 2 miners on an osprey as compared to two on a cormorant which doesnt have the yeild bonus.

Osprey (http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/ships/cruisers/caldari/620.asp)

Cormorant (http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/ships/destroyers/caldari/16238.asp)

Miners (http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/turretsbays/mininglasers/default.asp)

If you don't beleive me research it yourself.

also: Sperate, mining with a badger in highspace is good because then you can just leave it for an hour or so and let it make money on its own.

Or you could take a moa and put four tech 2s on there

I need to stop coming up with new stuff...

or you could take a ragnarok and put 6 tech 2 miners on it, I'd bet you get a lot of complaints out of that, but then you could blow them to peices with a citadel launcher

hammocksleeper

06-27-2006, 12:26 PM

I've (probably) got enough money for a barge <_<

Hell, I've got such a huge cargo space it takes an hour to fill it full of veldspar.

why the hell are you mining veldspar? :P

Toucan

06-27-2006, 12:48 PM

If you don't beleive me research it yourself.
I believe you and value your advice.
Ok, I'm glad I didn't buy the Corm and spoke to you guys first.
Another question, how do people get the real large containers out there? I mean there bigger than the industrial ship holds.

kongurous

06-27-2006, 1:36 PM

why the hell are you mining veldspar? :P

You think I wanna risk a 400,000 dollar ship just for asteroids?

hammocksleeper

06-27-2006, 3:00 PM

You think I wanna risk a 400,000 dollar ship just for asteroids?

you can get stuff like kernite and pyroxeres in areas as high as 0.7! and it's worth a lot more.

kongurous

06-27-2006, 3:33 PM

you can get stuff like kernite and pyroxeres in areas as high as 0.7! and it's worth a lot more.

I'm lazy and slow, sue me if I don't want to go somewhere else :P

EDIT: Gentlemen, behold! My indie ship!

Sperate

06-27-2006, 7:45 PM

Darmango, you're forgetting about the electronics skill. +5% CPU/level. And cpu co-pros.

Toucan, what containers are you talking about?

Darmago

06-27-2006, 7:51 PM

Darmango, you're forgetting about the electronics skill. +5% CPU/level. And cpu co-pros.

Toucan, what containers are you talking about?

alright, do the math, with maximum upgrades to CPU usage can you fit enough miners on a cormorant to out mine an osprey with as many miners you can fit on it with max upgrades + its mining bonus. I don't really feel like doing it.

Toucan

06-27-2006, 11:42 PM

Toucan, what containers are you talking about?
The General frieght containers. (http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/deployableequipment/cargocontainers/24445.asp)
Is there any way to get these out there?
They are huge, 120000m3, if we could get one of these out there it would be awesome.
Or would we have to use several 4000m3 containers and get kong to take them out there one at a time?
I will hopefully be getting the Osprey this weekend, maybe a bit longer, just raising some more isk, in about 24 hours I will have the skill to pilot it.

Darmago

06-28-2006, 1:02 AM

to fit one more on the osprey you require to be at electronics level 4 but thats OK you can only fit three on it anyways.

as for the cormorant. YOu'd be able to fit 3 on it at electronics level 5, maybe four, I didn't check... the point is unless you can boost your cpu to fit 4 or 5 miners on a cormorant, it won't do better than an osprey.

Tharisfal

06-28-2006, 7:42 AM

There's something really wrong about the installer. It has an error on one of the .stuff files. I've tried every step the EVE support told me to make this work except step 6. Can anybody help me please:_poke:

Darmago

06-28-2006, 11:25 AM

There's something really wrong about the installer. I has an error on one of the .stuff files. I've trie every step they told me to make this work except step 6. Can anybody help me please:_poke:

truthfully I do not know enough about what your problem is to give any specific advice, but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling, or downloading the thing all over again?

Tharisfal

06-28-2006, 12:02 PM

Yes I did that. I even used a donwload manager. And it was recommended by EVE support.

EDIT: Nevemind now it's working. It didn't because of the lack of space on the C drive :/

I've gotten myself blown on my second char - Populous Controll. But I managed to get myself a Navitus

The game is quite good. But 85.955432% of the game is watching and doing nothing as you mine or warp drive.

Sperate

06-29-2006, 4:03 PM

That's why smart people don't mine.

And I already know the results: an Osprey is better than the teir one or two mining barges, much less the corm.

General freight containers are used by freighters. You could jet them, but you can't anchor them so they'd go poof in a few hours anyways. And why are you so all-fired out about using secure containers? Just jet-can mine. As long as you're not doing it solo, you have no worries about people stealing your loot.

Darmago

06-29-2006, 4:23 PM

the mining barge which requires the least skill can fit two strip miners on it... the WORST strip miner can mine the same amount of ore that 9 of the BEST non strip miners could do...

right... well unless I'm missing somthing I think that barges win...

Sperate

06-29-2006, 4:26 PM

check your math. Cruiser level IV Osprey with Electronics V and cpu co-pros wtfpwns teir 1 barge.

I just did the math, and ignoreing cpu co-pros, an Osprey with three level IV skills (mining, electronics, and cruiser) can get 518.4 m3 of ore a minute. tier 1 barge dosn't come near that.

Toucan

06-30-2006, 12:57 AM

And why are you so all-fired out about using secure containers? Just jet-can mine. As long as you're not doing it solo, you have no worries about people stealing your loot.
I'm not worried about people stealing our cargo, I'm worried about how long my containers will last when I jettison them, kong has a large Indie ship, tonight I will have the Osprey and I will begin mining, but kong and I are on at different times, I don’t mind going out and mining a shit load at a good site, but it would be allot easier if it could wait for some time for kong to come pick it up, it would take 10 trips for me to carry what he can take in 1.

Kazeofwinds

06-30-2006, 1:04 AM

I set up myself another trial acount...Time to screw around in an ibis again, whee :p

kongurous

06-30-2006, 1:05 AM

I'm not worried about people stealing our cargo, I'm worried about how long my containers will last when I jettison them, kong has a large Indie ship, tonight I will have the Osprey and I will begin mining, but kong and I are on at different times, I don’t mind going out and mining a shit load at a good site, but it would be allot easier if it could wait for some time for kong to come pick it up, it would take 10 trips for me to carry what he can take in 1.

Name your time, I'm usually up to 5-6 AM my time.

TheGreatBrain

06-30-2006, 3:30 AM

I had a Caracal and was working on getting a battleship, when I realized the game was taking up a little too much of my time. My account is still there if I want to reactivate it, though.

Toucan

06-30-2006, 2:29 PM

I picked up my Osprey, she's equipped with 2 x heavy missile launchers and 2 x Miner II laser's, plus 4 warrior's in the drone bay.
At present she only has a standard medium armor repairer and shield booster but I will work on that, going to buy some nice medium rail guns to replace the miner's for when I feel like hunting :)

100thlurker

06-30-2006, 3:41 PM

I'm trying to install the client.
Problem is that keeps going:
Error:error writing to file resFaceTextures.stuff
A little help anyone? Once I do get online. My username will be 100thlurker for a trial account.

Tharisfal

06-30-2006, 5:45 PM

Lurker I had the same problem. This can have 2 causes. Either the C drive has too less space. Eve puts 1,3 Gb in temp. Or your installer is screwed. Get the stuff file from the EVE site and put it in your tmp. If you don't know how to do this I'll explain.

Here's a nice pic with my Navitus. Quite a cheap ship. But you don't need a battle ship to go through the curier agent mission you are given.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9670/200606302010054yx.png

Now I'm half way to gettin' a catalyst.

100thlurker

06-30-2006, 5:48 PM

A tmp folder?
Huh?
I put it in a different drive becuase C was out of space.
Could that be the problem?

Tharisfal

06-30-2006, 8:01 PM

No. Let me explain. The C drive always needs at least 1,5 Gb free space. The installer makes a temporary place where he puts stuff. And the place is somewhere on the C drive. if you don't have enough space on C, then the installer will crash.

hammocksleeper

06-30-2006, 8:07 PM

ooh. i think he's right.

100thlurker

07-01-2006, 12:53 AM

FU-ahem...
I can't DARE remove any of those files..Bassically I'm screwed.

Aqo

07-01-2006, 6:41 AM

There sure are some files on C you can remove... Windows only take like, what, 2, 3 gigs? What's the total space you have on C?

Also don't forget to defragment often!

hammocksleeper

07-01-2006, 9:26 AM

for windows 98 and earlier there was a way you could set your windows temp folders to a different drive upon startup using autoexec.bat and config.sys files...but i think those two files were made obsolete when xp came out. but there's got to be a way.

100thlurker

07-01-2006, 10:44 AM

Ugh, I use windows 2000...Such confusion! I don't get any of this!

Tharisfal

07-01-2006, 4:48 PM

I use 2k too. But really, like Aqo said windows files should have only 2gigs. What's so confusing? Just delete or move some files that aren't critical to Windows.

100thlurker

07-01-2006, 4:50 PM

My dad would go nuts...

Tharisfal

07-01-2006, 4:52 PM

Well can't you ask him to move some files to a different drive? It isn't such a big deal. Other then this the only thing you could make it work is allocate more space to the C drive.

100thlurker

07-01-2006, 5:25 PM

You defeat me..
I've tried and its like some demented horror-zombie movie flick! THEY JUST KEEP COMING!

Tharisfal

07-01-2006, 8:11 PM

Lurker. I have another idea. The default virtual memory is no the C drive you CAN change that to another drive but you'll need space on that drive. It depends on how much ram you have. if you have 256 like me you have to set the minimum to 50 and the maximum to somewhere around 1000.

To do this:

right click on My Computer > Properties > Advanced > performance options > Change > And there you can change the virtual memory to where and how much you would like it to be. But be carceful if you need as much MB free as virtual memory you allocate. And setting it to low would be very bad for you comp.

100thlurker

07-01-2006, 8:26 PM

If this is correct, than you can have a prestigiouse place in any of my rps you join! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
The screen is there, but all I see are the letters of Eve red moon rising.
Thats it. No letters to indicate where I am supposed to go and stuff. Yeah, I have no idea whats wrong.

Aqo

07-04-2006, 2:51 PM

I can't decide wether I should aim for Blackbird or Celestis... what should I choose?

Blackbird has one more launcher point, although still only 4 hislots in total. More cpuoutput, but I'm not concerned with it. 1 more medslot, but 1 less lowslot.
It also has 187 more shield, but less armour.
Celestis has 40m drone bay, 50 more powergrid, 50 more capacitor capacity (lol), and a higher propulsion power.

For killing pirates, which cruiser is better? Or does it depend more on the modules?

Or should I forget both, and go for something like the Bellicose?

hammocksleeper

07-04-2006, 3:39 PM

med slots > low slots. just because they are in such short supply. especially for pvp.

Kazeofwinds

07-04-2006, 3:54 PM

Eve Seems to be a jinx to me, every time I try and play something goes wrong, last time It was half my trial period in server downtime, this time the power cabnle for my laptop died, and the game crashes my desktop after 20 minutes or so. Grr....

Tharisfal

07-04-2006, 4:57 PM

Though I'm still a n00b at this I think medslots are better then lowslots. Lows are for armour and such. I like medslots because of the shield boosters. I have 2 shield boosters. With them I can defeat 2 serpentis gaurds without even damaging my armour. Probably best modules I ever bought.

hammocksleeper

07-04-2006, 11:15 PM

med slots are good for all races. as amarr i am less concerned about shields and cpu and more concerned about armor and capacitor (since we use laser turrets). in a low slot you can fit a pdu or an rcu to get more capacitor but there are better mods for your med slot. not to mention med slots are prized for warp scram and webbers during pvp.

Aqo

07-05-2006, 6:37 AM

I'll get the Caracal, then. :x

There's one thing that's bugging me now... is the mission 'world collide' possible?

hammocksleeper

07-05-2006, 6:59 AM

I'll get the Caracal, then. :x

There's one thing that's bugging me now... is the mission 'world collide' possible?

Yes, and it's very easy. If you are already considering cruisers, you should be able to beat the mission with no problem. Fit a frigate well and make sure you have an ab. It's easy, basically all you have to do is fight 10 or 15 of the easiest type of rat fighting you at the same time.

Aqo

07-05-2006, 9:29 AM

10 or 15 easiest!? Yeah, that's what it was at first, but when I got inside the second instance - poof - there goes my Merlin.

And how is an afterburner supposed to help me? I jump straight into 8k meters from the pirates. Even if I fly away in 550m/s their missiles still catch up to me.

kongurous

07-05-2006, 9:37 AM

hammocksleeper

07-05-2006, 12:17 PM

aqo, you do know to skip the first and second rooms and go straight to the third, right? here's my fitting when i beat it in a punisher (with no trouble)

hi: 3x med pulse laser w/multifreq crystals (its a small pulse laser) 1x small nosferatu
med: civ shield booster, 1mn ab
low: civ armor rep, nano plating

Aqo

07-05-2006, 2:25 PM

And by skip you mean going thru them real fast before I'm noticed by the pirates? Because I tried that already...

What am I missing?

Greyscale

07-05-2006, 6:53 PM

And by skip you mean going thru them real fast before I'm noticed by the pirates? Because I tried that already...

What am I missing?

The first room of the complex should be ignored, use an AB to go straight to the second gate. If you have a fast enough ship, you should only recieve minimal damage. The second room is where you actually need to fight something. Take each ship out one at a time. Use the AB the entire time you are fighting. When you get down to about half armor or so, fly away from the area and use a repairer. It may take a while, but you'll eventually eliminate all the pirates. Speed (of your ship) is the key to beating this mission.

Frigates are really powerfull if you know how to use them. You can take on a cruiser or BC if you have a good enough frigate. :P
http://www.warboards.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4249&d=1152139954

hammocksleeper

07-05-2006, 7:00 PM

grey, its the third room, not the second where you have to fight. just look in your overview for the transport or whatever that you are supposed to save. if it is in there, then that's where you fight.

if you need to run away and repair then do it...but you shouldn't have to